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TMZ Articles / Re: Katherine Jackson: Dr. Murray Told Me MJ Was Dead
« on: November 09, 2010, 06:35:47 PM »
Quote from: "truthprevails"
"Katherine explained how everyone at the hospital was reluctant to tell her what happened to her son."

Assuming, for the sake of argument, that MJ passed away at UCLA:
Hospital doctors are people who see death all the time.  All it takes is for one of them to come out and say "I'm so sorry..." for everyone to get it.  You know, like they do in movies.  :)  I doubt that no hospital doctor had the guts to do that... OK, they may have been sweating or tearing up because this is MJ, but still... Conrad Murray shouldn't be the one telling Katherine about her son - it should be one of the UCLA doctors who tried to save Jackson.


EXACTLY!!!! What is so interesting about all this is that NO ONE is following protocol---I realize Michael is a huge star, but you have to question how all this was handled.  A "covered body" wrapped in "sheets" (there's those sheets again) leaves the house for the hospital (whoops!--- there goes the infamous "photo" of MJ in the ambulance :lol: ) then Murray tells Katherine MJ is gone - NOT the attending physician Dr. Cooper who called the T.O.D. and you have Jermaine notifying the press (again, not the attending physician)...and a death certificate that wasn't signed by either one of the doctors. :geek:

If the body that left the house was wrapped in sheets where did they come from?  and who saw the body wrapped in sheets that told Joe? (again the ambulance photo was the only "sighting"/evidence of Michael being transported)

The photos leaked by TMZ (both sets) of where Michael supposedly "died" show a fully made bed. So who covered the body? and was it even uncovered at the hospital? did neither Dr. sign a death certificate because one was already done for "John Doe" wrapped in the sheets?  :o


Murray telling Katherine is key...that information was purposely told in that interview. IMO

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Quote from: "curls"
Well I heard he was a rotten cook and almost burnt the house down trying to make toasted cheese for the kids. I don't believe anything anyone says anymore!

Well, good cook or bad cook...I think there's something to be said for mentioning the fact that HE DID ATTEMPT TO COOK....the skill is irrelevant (hell, he's an entertainer, not Wolfgang Puck!)...at least he tried, which is more than most men will do!....besides, random people will say mean things about it just to be nasty & gossipy.  :(  You have to remember, Michael has always had everything done for him ever since he was little--personally, I applaud the effort ;)


Quote from: "_Anna_"
Quote from: "thepeacock2012"
I really think there could be something in this. I love the way we miss absolutely nothing, if there's a connection to be made, no matter how obscure, we make it. We might not always be right but at least we're still as focused on investigating as we ever were. We're still paying attention Michael! Has anyone wondered if maybe this interview with Oprah was arranged to try and get the attention of the non-believers as the message wasn't filtering through to them as he expected it would by now? Let's face it in the light of such staggering evidence showing he's not dead, most of us would be surprised that not more people, fans or not, would have got the idea by now

I just want to ask you and everyone else, as I am on another dimension- do you really think that the non-believers got a feeling of Michael being alive and this being a hoax after watching Oprah? Honestly. I am curious about your opinion. Because even some believers dropped some hope after this interview. Do you think that non-believers had the feeling of a hoax watching Mrs. Katherine crying?


I'm not so sure this show was for the "non-believer" as it was much more for "clarification" of who Michael was---how really normal he was and how things could be interpreted wrong and twisted by the media. Like the masks issue- Katherine's take on it was what most people would think---that it was bizarre or odd...but when you listened to Paris (his own child) explain why he did it, it took that "crazy wacko" aspect out of it and you understood the motive behind it.  Maybe the "non believer" after viewing this would start to look into other things about Michael  other than his music and try to see who he really was and eventually find their way here (like most of us) and maybe that's part of getting a "non believers" attention without them really knowing why they are more curious about him now.

This interview was very carefully orchestrated...Good show Jackson family :D


another side note...why do they keep mentioning the fact Paris has her room covered with pictures of Michael...they keep saying this over and over...anyone have any thoughts on it? :?:

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Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Another "coincidence". He could have been cooking pancakes...but NOOOOOO he just HAD TO BE COOKING FRENCH TOAST!!!!! Okay - I'm okay. :)


yup! that pretty much makes it concrete proof for me.  Thanks Paris!  :D  She could have mentioned ANYTHING on a breakfast menu...pancakes, cereal, omelettes, toast...but no....she says french toast! :lol:

Say what you want, think what you want....but after a year do you think these kids would say and do coincidental stuff like this if they knew their dad was dead?  :roll:


side note...did anyone happen to get a good look at Princes T-shirt? I'm curious to know what was on it. :?:  :?

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Oprah interview with Jackson family Nov 8 2010
« on: November 08, 2010, 10:13:46 PM »
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
i can not for the life of me see how this mans mother could not ever have met the two women her son was married to while being not that far from them and one of them having two children.
also someone mentioned katherines body language. i notice at one point katherine is really slupped down in her chair or kind of across it . seems odd.


yes ...that is very curious- especially considering she was the one to encourage Michael to marry Debbie (at least that's what's been said)...so I think it was a slip up...why else bring LMP or Debbie into it?

With the body language I noticed she touched her face a few times before she would answer certain questions (which is textbook reaction for people who are fibbing)...that and looking off to the side away from someone and back center before saying something. The slouching could have been from tiredness or uneasiness .Mrs. J wasn't offering up any additional info...she was making Oprah work for it that's for sure :lol:

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Other Odd Things / Re: End of Immortal world tour
« on: November 08, 2010, 09:43:58 PM »
yeah, and they've stretched the Murray trial out to January 2011...until????

I guess that's the next sequence of events :? Funny how that was timed---not during the album/dvd release or the interviews and promotion going on right now. ;)

I wonder if Murray pre-ordered a copy of the album to see if he's on it....heck, if he can pay a visit to Forest Lawn, why wouldn't he buy the album too?!  Heck, Sneddon had his own song on an album....jus sayin'  :ugeek:

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Oprah interview with Jackson family Nov 8 2010
« on: November 08, 2010, 09:32:22 PM »
I also wanted to add....did anyone else notice how Oprah plugged her two other shows....the one with LMP and the one with Jackie while she was talking to Katherine? :roll:

Funny thing is, I think it might have triggered a trip up with Katherine. She claims she never spoke to LMP until Michael and her were married and it was by phone...but correct me if I'm wrong, Michael took LMP to the Jackson Family honors show in Las Vegas while they were still dating (Feb 94')...wouldn't the family...or at least Katherine have met her then? They were married 3 only months later.

...if I'm right, then that's another slip-up on Mrs. J's part....and then the Jackie teen crush part about wanting to be her daughter -in- law.... :lol:  ? I know Mrs. J wanted to laugh out loud on that one!

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TMZ Articles / Re: Katherine Jackson: Dr. Murray Told Me MJ Was Dead
« on: November 08, 2010, 08:47:59 PM »
Quote from: "Tarja"
no no.. Can't take this anymore. It's amost the end for me with all this. I swear it is. I dont want to loose my sanity anymore because of a LIE. This woman can't act like this. It is the truth. I can't fool myself anymore. impossible. I feel like breaking everything, I can't believe how stupid I was to believe this was a  hoax. i can't believe that it's been 17 months of ILLUSION. this is all a lie, i can't believe. I don't accept him being dead, I just simply don't want to accept this!  Katherine is crying! It's obvious on her face that she doesn't fake it. Maybe anyone can still  believe this is a hoax, but I can't. I have no single fact that he is alive. WORDS for me are not facts and never will be.


Think of it in this way...I'm not sure if you have children or not...but imagine for a minute that your child is alive but you don't know where they are or if and when you'll see them again.  NOW, with that scenario in mind, I think it would not be a stretch to produce tears under those conditions. Add to the mix how you would feel knowing how much the media and unscrupulous people have hurt your child with lies and deception all throughout his life, and how much he has hurt himself because of it and there was nothing you could do about it. That would also definitely bring on the tears!
My mother once told me, the only thing worse for a parent to losing a child to death is to know your child is in pain or suffering and there's nothing you can do about it.

I believe Mrs. Jacksons tears were genuine, but they were out of all the pain and frustration Michael has had to endure his whole life that she couldn't do anything about...and today she got to talk about it and that's the tears we saw.

Believe ;)

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TMZ Articles / Re: katherine had this to say
« on: November 08, 2010, 08:27:59 PM »
Quote from: "lilwendy"
Quote from: "Andrea"
'No, he's gone.'  Yes, we know that.  To the airport.
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


 :D  :lol:

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Michael Jackson News / Re: MJ's New Album-Pitting Family against Friends?
« on: November 08, 2010, 08:24:37 PM »
Quote from: 2good2btrue
" But recently, an email was sent to the estate’s executors from Paris, 11, claiming the voice belongs to an impostor. The only problem, sources say, is that the email was time stamped while Paris was in school."

This is from the original article.....Katherine wouldn't probably know how to use the computer, so maybe it was Michael that sent that email himself, to start all this contraversy



They do have computers and internet access in schools, so to me that is not conclusive that she didn't send it.  But too, I could see Michael sending it himself under her email account (which he most definitely would have access to)...though it's not really clear why they would spur this "controversy" over the album content

I'm not sure what to make of it. Now they are saying the leaked song Opis None by Katherine was not leaked by her or the estate at all....Good gravy....this is getting messy :roll:

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Michael Jackson: back from the dead
« on: November 08, 2010, 08:06:14 PM »
"Death has long since give up its hold on recording stars, who seem to churn out new material from beyond the grave on a regular basis. Presumably the Devil has long since realised it is only good sense to exploit his monopoly on all the best tunes by installing a state of the art recording studio in hell, with the added benefit of air conditioning. What would be really exciting is if it turned out Tupac Shakur was rapping on one of the tracks, with Elvis Presley and John Lennon on backing vocals, and Jimi Hendrix on guitar."


*sarcasm*....Boy, isn't this critic a breath of fresh air...wonder if he even likes his job? :roll:  I'm guessing he never got to be the huge rock star he always wanted to be as a kid.

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Michael's Kids are also going to be on oprah
« on: November 08, 2010, 06:55:53 PM »
Quote from: "Tarja"
Paris looks so detached while saying so easy what's her favourite memory of her father.  And Prince too. I just can't understand


I noticed that too...but I was paying more attention to what she was saying then how she was saying it.  Up on the rooftop of the house watching the lights?(kinda like Peter Pan and Wendy?-got me to thinking about Neverland) 8-)  and Prince with the beach/Coca Cola (made me think of that picture of Conrad Murray and the Coca Cola umbrella and their trip to Hawaii - exposing his Vitiligo under his arms).  Oh yeah!....these kids are brilliant...they dropped so many clues on us you'd need a wheel barrel to catch them all  ;)

...and Paris wanting to be an actress...she's already an Oscar contender in my book 8-)

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Michael's Kids are also going to be on oprah
« on: November 08, 2010, 06:46:33 PM »
The interview went about how I expected. Although initially I was going to boycott it because I know it was a "ratings" ploy by Oprah.  But I'm glad I watched after all.  

The funniest part for me was when Blanket wiped his nose and then shook hands with Oprah.  And Prince was looking off Oprah and all around like he had something better to do.  Each in their own subtle way they let Oprah know how they felt about her.  :lol: Which would suggest they knew full well what Oprah has said about their father. But they were still respectful as Michael had raised them. :)

Loved the mention of Coca-Cola by Prince...and the Snickers/Skittles by both him and Paris...I'm beginning to wonder if Mars Candy is a hoax sponsor too! 8-)

The kids all did a wonderful job...you can see so much of Michael's personality in each of them. I hope no one or nothing ever taints that in them!

Truly lovely :D

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Oprah interview with Jackson family Nov 8 2010
« on: November 08, 2010, 06:29:18 PM »
The interview went about how I expected. Although initially I was going to boycott it because I know it was a "ratings" ploy by Oprah.  But I'm glad I watched after all.  Alot of the pictures TMZ had didn't make the actual show edit. Oprah stepped very carefully around some questions and I think Katherine could have been more aggressive in some of her answers, but we don't know how much was edited.

The funniest part for me was when Blanket wiped his nose and then shook hands with Oprah.  And Prince was looking off Oprah and all around like he had something better to do.  Each in their own subtle way they let Oprah know how they felt about her.  :lol: Which would suggest they knew full well what Oprah has said about their father. But they were still respectful as Michael had raised them. :)

Joe's 15 minutes of fame was cut to 3 minutes and Katherine did most of the talking for him (loved that part too) :lol:

I was watching Katherine very closely and it appeared (just from observing her body language) that she wasn't telling the truth in some of her answers but she was trying to keep it as close to the script as possible.

Loved the mention of Coca-Cola by Prince...and the Snickers/Skittles by both him and Paris...I'm beginning to wonder if Mars Candy is a hoax sponsor too! 8-)


Also, Katherine was very careful not to say she actually SAW Michael dead in the hospital  and said that a covered "body" was removed from the rented house and taken to the hospital....and also at the end of her solo interview, when Oprah asked if she felt Michael's presence, she said that she had her "memories"  (not that she felt his "spirit" which is what most people say when someone is dead-unless this is significant to just the Jehovah's Witness faith).

Oh and on my channel here in Cali they plugged the Cirque du Soleil Michael Jackson Immortal Tour announcement twice during the airing(not sure if that is significant to the hoax or just marketing).  8-)

There are quite a few little subtle clues throughout, but this is just my initial impression of the interview.

I'm sure someone DVR'd the interview and can pick it apart better. ;)

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I'm starting to think this "drug addiction" is indeed a smoke screen. I had doubts about there being a "drug addiction" even when it first came to light back in the 90's (personally I think Michael just wanted a break from the media limelight in light of the allegations going on at the time, he was probably unbelievably stressed out - so they used the "drug addiction" excuse to give him a break). Remember the Deiter Weisner deposition? Michael admitted he could have been "impaired" when signing contracts...thus eluding to a "drug addiction". Also, recall when he was questioned about his performance during the 30th anniversary show (he sounded very nasal while singing- which some speculated he was having more procedures done on his nose), Michael claimed that no he sounded that way because he was "medicated" for a cold he'd recieved from his kids (even Liz showed up to the event "sniffling and congested" too- lol! ;) )

and now this "drug addiction" is tagged to his "death".

I personally don't think Michael was ever a drug addict. Did he take alot of medication? perhaps, if he had Lupus---but it doesn't make him an addict.  Micheal read ALOTof books---he studied things, he knew what would make him look like an addict so he prepared for the "role" well (even made a song about drug addiction)(smoke screening again)...so that it would be "believable" now.

As far as Katherine and this "denial" stuff...it's all part of the plan...there are too many inconsistancie's about the "drug addiction" theory to be ignored, the biggest one being the autopsy. No mention of the Lupus - which would have required a great deal of medication which would have shown up in the tissue histology, and all the major organs were fine despite years of pain med abuse?...hmmmm, okay.  He was also given large doses of orange juice for dehydration(which in large doses CAUSE dehydration), yet his potassium levels weren't elevated according to the autopsy? :?:  You could go on and on, but you get the idea.

Oprah had to ask (to get the ratings), Katherine had to answer (to protect her son)...but drug addict?...no. I don't think so

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TMZ Articles / Re: Sony to Katherine Jackson: You're Wrong About MJ
« on: November 05, 2010, 10:05:49 AM »
the thing that strikes me right away is that the cover is a rendition or "artist recreation" of Michael's images - not actual photo's of him.  To my knowledge the only albums Michael never used a photo image of himself were Dangerous and History. (I have no idea if that is significant or not--and I may be wrong---please correct me if I am)

Plus the "artist interpretation" created album cover coupled with Katherine and the children saying it's not his voice, it's not him really makes me wonder what's going on. :?:


Dangerous--->History ("artist interpretation")

Artist drawings(Not Michael, but his likeness)---->Photographs(actual Michael, not used)

Sony (voice verified, so they say)----->Katherine/kids (not his voice, do they really know)



....I have no idea where this is going, but something is there...and Sony is knee deep in it.  :shock:

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