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TIAI ~ 2011 / Re: TIAI February 26
« on: February 28, 2011, 04:41:14 PM »
Quote from: "Le Papillon Bleu"
Why is this subject so important?Isn't the " reason " more important?
OR is it that the photo is NOT fake?

Finally! Someone dares to ask the ultimate question: AND SO?

What's the purpose of this thread in the first place? Honestly, and with no offense to anyone. Why is it important to debunk the picture? Maybe someone can enlighten us who don't understand it?

As for the picture: I can't see any leaves at all. One of the shots it looks like a reversed reflection of Michael's face lying in the ambulance. On another one it looks like a random patch - perhaps just a dirty window. I don't think there is a way of finding out unless somebody here actually KNOWS. We may be guessing for days and weeks until maybe finally someone hits the head on the nail - but not because it is possible to figure it out but because statistically taken, after some time someone will simply happen to be right.

Back to the picture: has anyone ever thought about the size of the windows of the ambulance and the width and angle of the photograph? I just think it's impossible to get such a wide shot through such a small window if you stick the camera right onto the window to avoid reflection and get a focused picture then I dont see how you could take such a wide shot. Unless, of course...here we go again..it has all been staged, well prepared, camera ready with the right lense and setting. That would probably explain Ben's slip up about that day and the other days and th..the...yeah.

Also what bothers me in terms of distance/angles etc. is the paramedic sitting so near the doors. If you stick the camera onto the window they way it must have been done..then how do you get the paramedic where he is, nicely in the shot, if at the same time the focus is on MJ in the middle of the picture, and clearly this guy cant be sitting outside the ambulance which is exactly how it looks like. Something isnt right here.

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Quote from: "curls"
chloead505, am I right in thinking  you're our legal expert?  If so, can you confirm if it's normal practice and 'legal obligation' for the defence to have to 'share its evidence' with the prosecution before the trial begins?

If it is, then why are you laughing at these articles?

Hi,
yes, I am a lawyer by profession. But I'm not a US lawyer so I don't want to pretend that I know US criminal law as it is very different from the continental system that we have here in Europe. I have been laughing on my occassions and in many threads, in fact. Sorry it is so ridiculous that I have to laugh - mainly at things to do with securing the crime scene, collecting evidence, people going in and out of the house, taking stuff, Murray running around with his liscence not suspended, doing tests on syringes that are 1,5 years old, ...quite lately the fairy tale about Murray's new defense lawyer having a personal conflict because he did some work for MJ back in 2005...and the list of absurdities (from a legal point of view at least) has no end..goes on and on. So now this plead to delay trial because judge is worried that defense is not ready...I mean WHAT??

Not sure about sharing evidence under US law. I do have a feeling that it's something that actually does exist, to a certain extent. But it's not like share as in have them look at your notes and the actual evidence, it's more about giving the other party the chance to (beforehand) get prepared to what is gonna be going down during the trial. So I'd think this includes disclosing a list of witnesses to give testimony for instance. I'm just a bit amazed at this construction and honestly I dont understand how that can be required from the defense. Sounds more natural vice versa - that is defense may require that from prosecution. I'd be happy to discuss this with a US lawyer...

I have never ever before heard about defense having to share evidence with prosecution. It is unthinkable  in my jurisdiction so I can't tell you more about that.

So to make it short, I am laughing at the ridiculousness of the whole trial/prosecution thing. It's just getting delayed and delayed, but the reasons for that sound so far-fetched that I'm just thinking you dont have to be a lawyer to realize it's a parody.

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Quote from: "fordtocarr"
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‎"A judge threatened Monday to hit Dr. Conrad Murray’s lawyers with $1,500-a-day... fines for failing to share evidence with prosecutors before the physician's trial next month in the death of Michael Jackson. Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor told lawyers for the pop icon’s personal physician that he would impose the fines or other sanctions Wednesday unless they met their legal obligation to turn over witness statements and expert reports to prosecutors."

“I am extremely distressed about the state of this case and whether in fact the defense is ready for trial,” Pastor said."

"Murray is set to go on trial March 24, but prosecutors have repeatedly asked the judge to delay the case, saying the defense is not ready for trial because it has not shared materials concerning its witnesses. Murray has refused to waive his right to a speedy trial, as most defendants do, to preserve his right to practice medicine.

HAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!

Oh...my...God. I think non-believers must be pulling their hairs out and banging their heads against the wall. I am sorry for them. LOL.

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TMZ Articles / Re: MJ Music Video Chicks -- Pretty Young Things!
« on: February 25, 2011, 01:43:12 PM »
Quote from: "Sinderella"
Because they had an excuse to print the words 'Michael Jackson' somewhere within the article and that was reason enough and all they need to get hits to the site=$$$$$.

This is more true than most ppl on here would want to admit. I just hope TMZ sold itself to Michael and not to the devil - second name of which is greed...

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This is totally insane..that's all I have to say, really. LOL

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Jason Malachi / Re: What happened to Jason Malachi's myspace?
« on: February 21, 2011, 02:28:41 AM »
Quote from: "mrbigshot"
It was available a couple months ago, but now it's completely eliminated from the myspace site. To me it seems rather strange, anyone else thinking the same? why would he delete his myspace page that had his music on it? as far as I know, myspace is a good source to get your music to an audience out there.

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:-D
You're right! If it's really gone for good now then this is THE perfect clue that the Jason character has been fake all along! We could be getting nearer...BAM! :-D

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TMZ Articles / Re: MJ's Kids -- Murray Couldn't Have Killed Our Dad
« on: February 21, 2011, 02:21:28 AM »
Oh, btw, Murray was a regular around the house. OK. But he didnt know the address of the compound? YEAH RIGHT!

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Quote from: "Sinderella"
Quote from: "chloead505"
Sind we need to spread this via facebook too, many ppl dont have twitter. Does the project have its fb page? I know how I could get this out on a massive scale. Will be happy to help! xo


YES!!!!!!
They do,but you know...this is why I am taking over lmao..they SUCK at publicity and getting them there dots hooked up to the portrait.
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Since like..what May 2010 It only has 1,531 fans.The portrait was started in 2009...
They have 1MILLION DOTS they need to get signed up!!!!!
Now,this is a GREAT plan chlobear because some lovely member on here runs the biggest MJ fan page on FB next to his own one(it has like 18,000+fans) so we can combine forces and I would TOTALLY appriciate all your help.
I will ask can I get control of the FB page and be added as admin.
Watch this space...

Awesome! Cus I know ppl that run several MJ sites on fb with like 10th members in total so that counts too! ;-)
I'll get on it right away! Well after I've slept a bit :-D
L.O.V.E.

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Quote from: "~Souza~"
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
There is a due legal process we must honor. Justice first. And then it will be time for truth. Your support in the meantime means everything
1 hour ago

So no truth during the trial? That's an odd statement to non-believers...

In other words: loads of BS during the trial, but hold on because after the trial we will get the truth.

HAHA! So far they havent let us down. I dont think I've ever seen such a huge pile of BS in such short time. LMAO

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Sind we need to spread this via facebook too, many ppl dont have twitter. Does the project have its fb page? I know how I could get this out on a massive scale. Will be happy to help! xo

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Other Odd Things / Re: Norwegian cruise
« on: February 20, 2011, 06:00:25 PM »
Quote from: "fordtocarr"
I was just walking past the television and turned right at the time a Norwegian cruise commercial was ending, and looked and it had Michael on it and it was saying concerts....
So I'm wondering as I missed the commercial (tried to find it on line),WHAT THE HECK WERE THEY SHOWING MICHAEL IN CONCERT FOR?
My only guess is the Cirque du Soleil...is Michael's show aboard or do they stop someplace to watch it??  Is it showing yet?  This was strange...

They will surely repeat it - stay on guard! :-) Thats if we dont find it online...
The norwegian connection is through Omer and he must be aware of the hoax too, so...who knows?

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TMZ Articles / Re: MJ's Kids -- Murray Couldn't Have Killed Our Dad
« on: February 20, 2011, 05:50:05 PM »
Quote from: "paula-c"
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MJ's former nanny, Grace Rwaramba, spoke with LAPD investigators in the months after Michael died ... and explained how Murray became a "regular" around the house when the singer lived in Vegas ... coming by at least two times a week.



And as is that which TMZ knows what she declares to the police.... :?:

Exactly, as I said, there must be an official record of this or else it's just another hearsay with no value for either side.

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TMZ Articles / Re: MJ's Kids -- Murray Couldn't Have Killed Our Dad
« on: February 20, 2011, 01:01:24 PM »
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Quote from: "chloead505"
Quote from: "shelby61"
Quote from: "chloead505"
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Quote from: "shelby61"
"Oh, but the prosecution team isnt staying behind...their recent story about Murray's new lawyer having a personal conflict is a hoax in itself."

 :roll:  We shall see...

_________________

Didn't Mike initially retain Mark Geragos as his attorney during the 2003 trial?  Then because of another case (I believe) Geragos was working on (I think it was the Scott Peterson case) he had to leave the team.  That is when Tom Mesereau joined the team.  So MJ is being revealed piece by piece  :)

This is from the wikipedia.  

Michael Jackson and Scott Peterson In the early stages of the Michael Jackson molestation case, Geragos handled that case as well as Scott Peterson's death penalty case simultaneously. Though he managed a busy workload since he began working as a lawyer, during this time, he was handling two of the United States's best-known cases. Geragos's "...crushingly busy calendar" in the courtroom earned him a rebuke by a judge in an embezzlement case Geragos was also trying.[22]

My point is that it is NOT a personal conflict. There is a separate thread on this where I explained why. It's just going to delay the trial if the judge doesnt dismiss this objection as inadmissible. Which he should by all means because it's total nonsense.

Of course it is not a personal conflict, and it is total nonsense.  Law firms can put up firewalls if there is a conflict.... and any legal person would know what I mean by this.

Here is one  :)

Yes, coming from the two of you who work in that field, I will believe you. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with the rest of us! Blessings.

Always happy to share my knowledge  ;)  I'm just waiting for the moment when even "ordinary" people (not lawyers, not hoaxers, not even fans, just anyone and everyone) will start to notice all these oddities that are slowly turning into unprecedented absurdities that just make you question your own sanity because you can't believe your eyes and ears LOLL.

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TMZ Articles / Re: MJ's Kids -- Murray Couldn't Have Killed Our Dad
« on: February 20, 2011, 11:47:26 AM »
Quote from: "shelby61"
Quote from: "chloead505"
Quote
Quote from: "shelby61"
"Oh, but the prosecution team isnt staying behind...their recent story about Murray's new lawyer having a personal conflict is a hoax in itself."

 :roll:  We shall see...

_________________

Didn't Mike initially retain Mark Geragos as his attorney during the 2003 trial?  Then because of another case (I believe) Geragos was working on (I think it was the Scott Peterson case) he had to leave the team.  That is when Tom Mesereau joined the team.  So MJ is being revealed piece by piece  :)

This is from the wikipedia.  

Michael Jackson and Scott Peterson In the early stages of the Michael Jackson molestation case, Geragos handled that case as well as Scott Peterson's death penalty case simultaneously. Though he managed a busy workload since he began working as a lawyer, during this time, he was handling two of the United States's best-known cases. Geragos's "...crushingly busy calendar" in the courtroom earned him a rebuke by a judge in an embezzlement case Geragos was also trying.[22]

My point is that it is NOT a personal conflict. There is a separate thread on this where I explained why. It's just going to delay the trial if the judge doesnt dismiss this objection as inadmissible. Which he should by all means because it's total nonsense.

Of course it is not a personal conflict, and it is total nonsense.  Law firms can put up firewalls if there is a conflict.... and any legal person would know what I mean by this.

Here is one  :)

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TMZ Articles / Re: MJ's Kids -- Murray Couldn't Have Killed Our Dad
« on: February 20, 2011, 11:22:31 AM »
Quote
Quote from: "shelby61"
"Oh, but the prosecution team isnt staying behind...their recent story about Murray's new lawyer having a personal conflict is a hoax in itself."

 :roll:  We shall see...

_________________

Didn't Mike initially retain Mark Geragos as his attorney during the 2003 trial?  Then because of another case (I believe) Geragos was working on (I think it was the Scott Peterson case) he had to leave the team.  That is when Tom Mesereau joined the team.  So MJ is being revealed piece by piece  :)

This is from the wikipedia.  

Michael Jackson and Scott Peterson In the early stages of the Michael Jackson molestation case, Geragos handled that case as well as Scott Peterson's death penalty case simultaneously. Though he managed a busy workload since he began working as a lawyer, during this time, he was handling two of the United States's best-known cases. Geragos's "...crushingly busy calendar" in the courtroom earned him a rebuke by a judge in an embezzlement case Geragos was also trying.[22]

On April 26, 2004, Michael Jackson removed Mark Geragos as his attorney, replacing him with Thomas Mesereau. In a public statement provided by his spokesperson Raymone Bain, Jackson stated, "It is imperative that I have the full attention of those who are representing me. My life is at stake..." suggesting that Geragos may not have had enough time to handle his case because of Geragos' workload.[23] Geragos, for his part, later said he was dismayed to see Jackson climb atop a sport utility vehicle to the cheers of his fans after leaving the Santa Barbara County, California courthouse in January 2004 when he was first arraigned on the initial complaint.[24] Geragos' co-counsel Benjamin Brafman also expressed disapproval of Jackson's actions.[24] "Although [in January] the lawyers explained the behavior as 'Michael being Michael,' " The New York Times reported, "they are said to have privately expressed consternation at the display of frivolity in the face of serious charges."[24]

My point is that it is NOT a personal conflict. There is a separate thread on this where I explained why. It's just going to delay the trial if the judge doesnt dismiss this objection as inadmissible. Which he should by all means because it's total nonsense.

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