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There has to be something more to it. Why all this hype over it being "so shocking" and a special guest.. if there wouldnt be any? Hmm. False advertisment?

Cause honestly there is nothing shocking about Oprah talking about herself  :?

I don't think its gonna be Barack Obama. In fact, Im pretty sure it won't be because he was on the show a couple of weeks ago to discuss the birth certificate thing. As for the Will Smith thing, he's going to be on tomorrow (Part Two of the Farewell Show).

I personally think Michael could go on her last show as a "BAM". I think that would be great, considering her show airs in 100+ countries. People say "Oh, thats terrible she doesn't like MJ" etc. etc. But the show already has our attention, why not? A lot of people here are probably going to watch it just from interest anyway. The point is to get his message through to people. It's not about Oprah. Her show is just the "platform" so to speak.

As I see it, the only thing that matters is that IF he Bams on the show his message is out there. I don't care by what means it is done, as long as it's done. JMHO of course  ;)

Id like to say two things:

1) I like Obama. I feel he is a good man, with good intentions.
2) Osama Bin Ladin did more than just 9/11... that's all I see brought up. That 9/11 was inside job (Which it was). But that doesn't mean he's not a real person. He's done more attacks than that since around 1993, on places other than America.

Either way, I'm just glad he's gone.

MJDHI Announcements / Re: Smilies
« on: May 01, 2011, 04:40:28 PM »
Thanks Souza  bearhug lol this is my favorite one.

TMZ Articles / Re: ... And They Lived Happily Ever After!
« on: May 01, 2011, 03:51:41 PM »
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Quote from: "heartphantom"
Quote from: "iamamjbeliever"

I couldn't care less about this royal wedding but the picture is mean and manipulative. It's like showing Michael living in a big beautiful house and some children dying photoshopped in the same picture. One has nothing to do with another and it's disturbing. It's everyone's right to live up to their possibilities and to celebrate their important moments in their own traditional way. We can't blame others because they're rich or put on their shoulders all the misery in the world just  because they can make a difference and expect something from them. This is a free act. And just like some of us don't give food to poor people even if that food means nothing to us, it's also their right to have the attitude they want.
At this wedding i know the guests had to donate, instead of wedding gifts, money to charity, that makes the picture even more unfair.
We live in 2011 and we still have the mentality of slave-master/group-leader. What i mean is we all pretend equalty but when it's about saving this world we still act like one is "more equal" than other and has more power to change something than me. But i really believe it's us all, little by little, piece by piece, individiaul by individual.We can all make  difference and not wait for leaders or masters to give the tone. Before poiting fingers to popular or rich families we should take a look in the mirror and start with us.

I do not like this picture, Does it mean that they shouldn't get married and have a wonderful wedding reception because this world is falling apart? Because this world is full of descrimination,  full of hatred and wars? This has been part of our lives for centuries, it did not start today. If you would get married  wouldn't you  like to have a great wedding and a wonderful reception r? So why not them? They are still human beings and in love they deserve happiness. Who ever did this is full of crap..  People like that makes this world be even worse. They cannot let things be. Live and let live..

To me the picture is saying (in a rather forceful way) that people should give their attention to more important issues than the royal wedding. Not saying the royal wedding isn't important, but that there are other "crisis" that should be focused on at this moment in time.

Michael Jackson News / Re: Obama Birth Certificate - fake?
« on: May 01, 2011, 03:33:07 PM »
It isn't fake. Well that's my opinion, anyway. And I'm tired of people asking, "Well, why did it take so long for him to show it?" Ever think that maybe it offends him that people infer that he's from another country simply because of his skin color. And you can't convince me that it's not because he's black, because it is. No other US president, to my knowledge, has been asked such questions. I'm just glad he can sit back and joke about it like he did.

And for those who think he's "the worst president ever" .. maybe you should review a bit of history. Nixon and Bush come to mind first. He's doing MUCH better than them. Bush dug America in a hole (IMO). Even Americans ridicule him now. As I see it, President Obama is just trying to take us out of that hole and I applaud him for that.

I may be young, but I'm not stupid.

MJDHI Announcements / Re: New Forum Layout
« on: May 01, 2011, 03:14:18 PM »
I really like this new layout  :) Especially the options at the top and the pictures used. Very professional.

TMZ Articles / Re: ... And They Lived Happily Ever After!
« on: May 01, 2011, 03:05:11 PM »
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Just to show how you could see it as well, which makes more sense since her head is CLEARLY way too low for that people are assuming with this picture.

Viewers are making something of it it's clearly not. If a newspaper would have published this picture 100 years ago, people might have assumed he did this:

But the world has been made into a real life porn movie tha last couple of decades and that is why peoples minds will assume that first.

My point: who's fault is it REALLY that something is assumed after looking at this picture? He might just have blessed her, and they live happily ever after.

I would have never guessed in a million years, from looking at that picture, that he was "blessing" her. Especially when it comes from TMZ. But ehh -- the picture is posted. It is what it is. I thought it was funny anyway, but probably wasn't the most appropriate picture to pick. They [TMZ] know what they're doing.

TMZ Articles / Re: Murray Wants MJ Rehearsals To Show Warning Signs
« on: May 01, 2011, 07:59:24 AM »
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
I know one thing: I would like to see the raw footage of TII.
And I would like to know how comes that Murray knows the raw footage proves MJ was lethargic.

How could he know? He saw the raw footage already?

Good point. I'd definitely like to see the raw footage he speaks about. And if Murray has actually seen the footage, why was it given to him? I hope that if the trial is televised they'll at least show this piece of evidence, if we don't see it or if TMZ or news sources don't cover it.. I don't think it's real  :geek: Because that doesn't make sense that he of all people had seen the raw footage.

I believe it was probably there. But I don't think Harvey or anyone on TMZ posted it. Like Yulia said, it was supposedly hacked. There's the answer to our "question".

This Is It / Re: Unseen Kenny Ortega Footage at TII Premier.
« on: April 09, 2011, 02:41:13 PM »
He seems like such a kind person I really like him. Speaking of Mr. Ortega -- where has he been? He's missing in action. Right after Michael "died" he was everywhere, and now he's just disappeared. Hmph.

I always thought there was something weird about the ALLJACK5ONS account anyway. The fact the never got verified was one thing. They kept saying that Twitter wouldn't verify "group accounts" only single ones... which is a load of BS because there are a lot of other groups of 3+ people on Twitter. One that comes to mind is "Mindless Behavior", its a boy band I guess of rappers... just kids. I think if they can verify four 13 year olds that are new in the industry, they can DEFINITELY verify the Jackson 5.

The thing is, no one opposed it in the beginning. Could they really have been that convincing? Hm.

TMZ Articles / Re: Dr. Klein Hands Over Michael Jackson's Records
« on: April 06, 2011, 04:41:24 PM »
Question: Why wasn't this done... I don't know... Back when he actually "died"?! That would make more sense. Do an investigation, gather all of his records, then try to piece together what happens. Why wait nearly two years after the fact?

General Hoax Talk / Re: OMG HAVE YOU SEEM THIS VID?
« on: April 04, 2011, 05:31:14 AM »
Quote from: "Talila"
Latoya says he signed the shirt before he died ...¡¡¡¡
 So why it appears to Celebration of His Life and the date of his death?
 Was it to save the drawing after it is erased regardless of the original signature?
 What's this? And what kind is this tv show?

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I watched the actual show last night, yes. It's called the Celebrity Apprentice. It's Donald Trump's show. Teams of celebrities (seperated by gender) go on business projects. Whoever does the best, wins that night. Someone from the losing team gets "fired".

On this episode they were doing art. They had to make their own art and sell it for charity. Latoya brought that shirt, which went for $99,000. There are only a few in the world. She was explaining how it was originally supposed to be the This Is It shirt, etc. etc. Which makes no sense to me... seeing as they put something else on the back... and Michael signed ON TOP of the new design "made after his death".

Also, just to add. When she was talking about Michael and getting semi-emotional. She kept speaking in present tense: "..for the angel he truly is. He is an angel."

And Donald Trump recognized Michael as "his good friend."

References & Similarities / Re: New subforum: Challenging Theories
« on: March 31, 2011, 07:11:08 PM »
Quote from: "scorpionchik"
Quote from: "MJhasSpoken"
When did TMZ and MJ make a partnership so we can prove if TMZ is really working with MJ?

What makes you think that Michael and TMZ are partners?
I doubt so here is why: Michael has always had a problem, disliked media. Why would Michael now work with media?
Most of clues of hoax we have got are from  Michael through "death" events;
1. ambulance and related clues from Ben E., memorial ("S" on "pain", family members in sunglasses, I am alive msg on the picture, etc);
2. funeral (Liberian Girl's picture, dancers, no one cries, no open casket, trash cans, etc);
3. TII- Michael's message of having 4 years.., BAM scene, doubles, etc.
4. Family members' slip ups;
All other secondary clues we derived from media, source  we are not suppose to trust, right? Autopsy, coroner reports, helicopter, death certificate, will, investigation, etc.- the 100% authenticity of these documents and truthfulness of events are unknown. Once again, because our source is media.
So far we have lot's of inconsistencies coming from TMZ. Why do I have to think that Michael cooperates with TMZ.

Challenge my opinion and correct me where I am wrong.  :D I want you to convince me with reasonable basis that Michael with TMZ. I am serious, I want to believe that. Anyone?

I think Michael is working with TMZ only because media is the major way you can really get to people.

1) Why do people oppose TMZ?

Most important question I think.

2) The double-theory is on this forum somewhere. Just want to know HOW it is important at all in this hoax? ...I believe there are doubles, but how is it relevant?

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