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« on: March 22, 2011, 08:42:47 PM »
well i certainly hope not too many of us are in on it because it doesn't seem like there are many of us left. droppin' like flies around here.
and not only am i seeing faces every where it seems like every pic i see any more someone has vitaligo :lol: Well, a good family like ours also helps when someone has a mental problem, so don't you worry suspicious mind! :lol:
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« on: March 22, 2011, 08:37:41 PM »
@DreamsandTruth.....very well said and respectfully written. Those are my thoughts exactly. I am very frustrated. We are a great group here, a big family, sharing our feelings with each other, and helping each other a lot - not just in connection with the hoax, which is beautiful. And as there is always something good in bad things too: our frustration helps us a lot to use our brain much harder, and to be this nice to each other here - because we are in the same shoes, and it's easier together. Still hard, but much easier. Both mentally and spiritually. Thank you for your kind post, anewfan! I was a little worried that I couldn't be respectful enough, mainly because I haven't read more posts from TS. But I was shocked by his attitude, and I just had to tell it. What I'm worried about a little is that maybe TS is using the old political trick: by telling us what to focus on now, he/she distracts us from those things we should really deal with.
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« on: March 22, 2011, 07:17:28 PM »
DREAMSandTRUTH wrote:
Hi TS,
this is the first time I read any of your posts. So your attitude to this hoax is new to me. I didn't even know that you send your posts right here, I thought Souza and Mo just copy them from thisisalsoit.com. It was also a surprise to me that you are a normal member here, I mean that you post many times within a thread, answering questions.
What I don't get is that if you are this accessible, and not such a mystery guy who I thought you were, then why don't you simply tell us what you think/discovered? Why do you want us to find those things out, like it was a game? Also, why don't you post in other threads? Because TS didn't 'discover' things, he knows things and he wants us to think for ourselves, use our brain and find it ourselves, instead of spoon feeding us like the media does. There are many smart people all over the world, also in this forum. Personally I use my brain a long time ago. And the media cannot control me easily either.
I know that it's a big problem in the world that the media uses it's powers in many negative ways, also spoon feeding those people who they can.
But inside the forum I don't think we need someone who wants to teach us to think, like we would be four years olds, mostly because it seems to me that TS wants to do just the same what the media does: spoon feeding us. He is telling us what to focus on? What is this if not spoon feeding?
TS wrote: "The next level means that we are now going to shift the focus from the ambulance picture (whether it was real or fake, etc) to whether or not some or all of the paramedics are in on the hoax."
What I really like in this forum is that we work together, we are a good team.
And if someone who knows things wants to help us could easily be here as an absolutely normal member. He/she could tell/suggest us what we can know about the hoax and we would only think that he/she is just a good "investigator", that he/she has good eyes for certain things. He/she could also pretend that he/she is not one person but several, so we would think that there are several smart members here. (Like it was said many times that maybe even Michael is a member here too.) So we wouldn't start to suspect if he/she doesn't want it. If he/she finds it so important to teach us how to use our brains, he/she could write his posts in a way like "there is something fishy here, what do you guys think?"
IMO this would be a proper way to help us to find out the truth finally, and at the same time not to debunk Michael if it's too early.
Anyway, this is just one possibility to help us and Michael - but the way TS is helping us is suspicious for me and antipathetic.
And last but not least:
TS wrote: "Finally, just like last time, I may play “DA” (devil's advocate)—and try to debunk things that are true, just to keep you on your toes! Enjoy the ride!!"
Does TS think this hoax is some kind of game we enjoy???
We try hard to believe that Michael is not dead, and we would really like to know the truth but at the same time to keep Michael safe. It is very hard for us. Just look around: real Michael Jackson fans are very frustrated and do not "enjoy this ride". At least this is what I see.
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« on: March 22, 2011, 08:43:34 AM »
Just wondering...
Do you think the cabinet from the pictures match the cabinet from the video? Wouldn't that white border show up in the pictures?
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Good catch! I'm glad somebody noticed this--it is one of the "secrets" that I have been planning on pointing out, if nobody found it. But I'm always glad when someone else finds it first. There is one more thing about this that I will include later, if nobody else gets it first.
TS, I was wondering what the other one more thing you were going to include. Did you write it to us already or someone else has found it or are you waiting for the ambulance research/discussion to end?
So far, I haven't seen anyone find the other thing on this. I'll give it a few more days for someone else to find it.
Can you at least give us help in the right direction...it's hard to know what were looking for when we have nothing to go on. 
Back on topic ...
I am now going to say that the staged photo was done in the same LAFD #71 ambulance--there were not two different ambulances. In fact, why would they need a different ambulance (rented or otherwise), if the FBI was working directly with LAFD station #71?
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Hi TS, this is the first time I read any of your posts. So your attitude to this hoax is new to me. I didn't even know that you send your posts right here, I thought Souza and Mo just copy them from thisisalsoit.com. It was also a surprise to me that you are a normal member here, I mean that you post many times within a thread, answering questions. What I don't get is that if you are this accessible, and not such a mystery guy who I thought you were, then why don't you simply tell us what you think/discovered? Why do you want us to find those things out, like it was a game? Also, why don't you post in other threads?
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« on: March 21, 2011, 07:39:04 PM »
It says on the video that he parked right outside the building where TMZ just happened to move into on the 30th floor........how convenient LOL
ahhhh what a nice koincidank it is! :lol:
It's a bit too hilarious - if you guys get what I mean. (Mostly if Murray really went to Janet's book signing...) I don't know whether I should laugh or just think about the reason of this extremely unreal story... Maybe it is just time to show the world that Murray and TMZ cooperate - and that's why they made this silly interview. But does it say that Michael is the one who creates these stories about Murray with the help of TMZ? I hope it does, and for what other reason would TMZ want to tell us this clearly that they work with Murray? Well, we will see. I hope some more clarifying news will come soon.
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« on: March 21, 2011, 06:52:09 PM »
I'm sure Sinderella did some great comparisons in another o2 guy thread that showed two differing backgrounds. So I would answer yes to your question. Can someone help me to find this thread, and the others in which I can read Sinderella's opinion about the O2 conference? I'm open-mined, so I would like to see what she found - even if now I think it was Michael there. Thanks in advance!
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« on: March 21, 2011, 06:44:23 PM »
A thought came to me if it was an impersonator there he would have done all the classic mj moves there and tried to be as close to the real mj. But Michael there acts different angry agitated at someone not to the fans he is loving to his fans but upset. An impersonator would not have done that just a thought I agree with you. There is a good thread about Michael being angry and agitated on that day, hence his weird behaviour: moves, voice, look, whatever you fine weird. We are not used to see a Michael who is angry. Now when he is angry, we find it odd - but it doesn't mean it's not him. You are not allowed to view links.
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« on: March 21, 2011, 10:01:59 AM »
DREAMandTRUTH - so odd that your pictures disappeared...they were great comparisons.
Another video that really sells it for me is this one:
[youtube:c91z1jkm]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv0btJPhF48[/youtube:c91z1jkm] Hi voiceforthesilent , Thank you for this video, I haven't seen it yet. When I made my comparison video with the photos, I also wanted to make voice comparisons as well. But I couldn't find any longer words which he pronounced absolutely alike. (You know it depends what you emphasise, your mood is different, etc). What I found really similar were just the same as in this video. "aaand", "aaa", and his "hmmm"s are very very similar too. Who made this video could have included that one too I didn't make this voice comparison with these "hmm"s and "aaa"s because I thought they wouldn't be convincing enough - as they are too short. I mean for those who do not believe it was Michael. But I'm glad that someone made this video, it is better to make something than nothing just because you are too perfectionist like me I spent a lot of time watching videos where he says "mother" and "father", etc. but he never "wanted" to pronounce them the same way. :lol: I couldn't even find two "mother" or "father" which sounded alike, so I really didn't find one which sounded the same as he said them in the LKL interview...
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« on: March 20, 2011, 07:23:33 PM »
I started to feel like Dave Dave at Larry King was himself, not Michael in disguise. Just look at the comparisons I made, it always makes me feel "it must be Michael". Okay, it sounds like I'm too proud of my work, although I know not everyone was convinced by them that it's Michael - but for me they work really good. Better than just the video itself. So maybe they help you too. I attach one of them here, as now when I opened the thread I started about it, I saw that all my comparison photos dissappeared :? From all pages... You are not allowed to view links.
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« on: March 20, 2011, 07:09:05 PM »
lilith wrote
Thank God I found it. I knew he said that thing about the girls who always find out it is him in disguise. I listened to the ever same interviews to find it but finally I found this interview:
Interview With Gold Magazine [2002]
In late 2002, Michael granted an interview with England's prestigious magazine, Gold Magazine.
The magazine is published twice a year by Conde Nast Publications Ltd for Harrods.
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GG: Does it ever become a burden to be one of the most recognized stars in the world?
MJ: There's nowhere in the world I can actually go and have privacy. The thing that hurts the most is the fact that your privacy is taken away from you. To use the silly expression, you live in a fishbowl, but it's true. I do disguises...People know them all, it's very hard, very hard.
GG: What kind of disguises?
MJ: Bat suits, buck teeth, glasses, afros, prosthetics, make-up jobs, everything. Just to sit in the audience and experience it the way an audience would experience a show; I want to feel how they feel.
GG: Do they find you out?
MJ: Sometimes, yes. In the beginning, no. Then they start looking me in the eyes. I put these things on and then they start looking behind the glasses...Girls are very smart, you know. You can trick a guy quicker than you can trick a girl. Women can just pick it up. They know the way you move your body, the way you walk, the way you gesture. I hear them go, 'Look at the way he moves his hand', or 'Look at the way he was walking', and I think, 'Oh no.'
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I think Michael showed us a video of him walking in the Dave Dave disguise because he knew we would recognize his walk 
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« on: March 17, 2011, 07:37:18 AM »
No. They never had the tapes of the time in question. Those tapes were always missing.
I can't believe I'm the only one that remembers this. The only reason the topic of the tapes exists at all is because in the days right after 6/25/09, LAPD reported that they had the surveillance tapes from Carrolwood of 6/25 except for the hours in question leading up to the 911 call and immediately afterward.
The reports stated that either the footage was erased or the cameras were turned off, but either way, the footage was MISSING.
It was always missing. The LAPD never had it in the first place, everyone just got all hysterical when Murray's lawyers requested it recently.
Why is TMZ running this article with this kind of slant as if they are trying to rewrite history? Thank you for sharing this, it's much clearer this way (I joined the investigation only in Dec. 2009, and I didn't read about this before).
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« on: March 17, 2011, 07:13:38 AM »
Curls, thank you so much for this information!!!
We should trust less what TMZ writes.
And the Coroner's Investigator didn't collect the (now famous) juice bottles, and didn't even bother to document what was in them???
It's not logical for me that she should only focus on medicines and medical aids. A lethal dose of medicine/drug can be in anything.
"Did you notice on the table some juice bottles? They were labeled the Naked Juice company.
Were they empty?
Fleak: Yes.
Fleak: I did not collect those juice bottles and I did not document what was in them.Q: You left them there at the scene? Fleak: Yes. They were on the table next to the bed."
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« on: March 16, 2011, 09:04:14 AM »
TMZ: "We're told cops never looked at the rest of the surveillance video."
Can someone call the LAPD whether it is true, and if it is, then why didn't they watch the whole video?
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« on: March 15, 2011, 07:49:46 PM »
Murray is angry at the photo :lol: Yes, very. :lol: And Michael is quite happy!
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« on: March 15, 2011, 07:23:18 PM »
are we for sure that she is there against katherines wishes? I'm not
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