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Michael Jackson News / Re: Media lying tycoon murdoch in trouble
« on: July 16, 2011, 07:12:59 PM »
This is interesting, thank you for posting!
I hope it really starts something good.
I wonder how those people react who used to read this paper... Do they spend some time thinking over this case, or just start to buy another tabloid...?

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Hi Grace,
I hope you are right and LaToya is helping Michael. If he is alive I'm sure she is. But if he is gone, then maybe she just wants to make money, selling her book, her cosmetics etc.
Well, I don't know the Jackson family that much, so anything is possible IMO.

"THIS is the biggest hiding fog for Michael: the publications are about the past and don't have anything to do with his presence today."
I guess the press would write only about Michael's past without the family's contradicting, "fog creating" statements too. What could they write about his presence? They don't even write about the possibility of the hoax too often... I guess it doesn't sell good, otherwise they would write about it.

I have to admit that I haven't thought too much about the advantage of creating a fog around Michael. Not that I don't see that the family is doing exactly what you are talking about (contradictions after contradictions) - I just don't see the point. And I guess even though I could speculate about it, I could never be sure what it is. They are good (the Jacksons), they are creating a great fog, so we cannot see clearly - but do all the family members help Michael or some of them care only about themselves? How can we know? Confusing people can have many advantages, I'm sure, I just don't know who will have the profit and what kind of profit.
Anyway I just wondered why it can be good for Michael that LaToya said he was extremely thin. I don't spend too much time trying to find it out because I don't think I can. I just wanted to highlight it as her newest strange statement.
I simply just wait what will happen. But time works against the Jackson family - the later Michael comes back, the more reason we will have not to trust his family if they continue confusing us like this. Just my opinion.
The fog will only disappear if Michael comes back - until then we cannot see the truth either. We can make theories but we cannot be sure if we are right or not.

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"They knew he wasn't capable of them, they knew he wasn't healthy enough. He had a kidney problem, he was extremely thin, he was always freezing."

Hmm, wasn't healthy enough and was extremely thin? Is she helping Murray's team :?:

By the way I've never heard of Michael having kidney problems...

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Quote from: "mac5k"
"It's therapeutic, you know and it makes me smile inside," Jackson told British radio.

"I mean the energy of the song is fierce but it makes me smile inside when I hear him, when I hear his voice."
Maybe it's just me, but I find some contradictions in Janet's feelings about listening to Michael's voice.
In February 2011 she said that she finally was able to listen to his songs and watching his videos which she could't do/enjoy before. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
BUT she was able to perform the same song, Scream, in Sept. 2009 at the MTV Video Music Awards...

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Dave Dave on Larry King Live
« on: June 04, 2011, 06:16:32 PM »
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Ok I found the picture of Michael as the mayor. I will post both pictures and let's see if there is a resemblance. Look at the dave dave picture left, look at his neck, he has burned skin. Look dave dave on the right look at his neck, very smooth. The eyes of the Mayor is the same eyes of dave dave on the right. What do you guys think?

 
[attachment=1:1qiclz9d]davedave1.jpg[/attachment:1qiclz9d]
[attachment=0:1qiclz9d]ht_mj_ghost_making_of_the_mayor_100624_ssh.jpg[/attachment:1qiclz9d]
The photo you found of Michael as the mayor is so great, his eyes in this mask look very-very similar to his eyes when he wears the DD-mask. Thanks for posting it!  :)
I looked for a photo like this a year ago, but I only did search for a good moment I could have captured in the Ghosts video and the "making of the Ghosts" videos, and I couldn't find such a clear shot/photo of him. So thanks again!

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Dave Dave on Larry King Live
« on: June 04, 2011, 05:58:42 PM »
Quote from: "MJonmind"
DREAMSandTRUTH, I just watched your 3 videos and they're great, very helpful to go over older info. Thanks for posting the links!  8-)
You are welcome MJonmind, I'm glad you found it helpful  :)

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Dave Dave on Larry King Live
« on: June 03, 2011, 08:00:01 PM »
EDIT:
"I also started a thread about comparing the look of the real DD and the DD on LKL."
Sorry, this comparison is mainly in my videos, the thread is about comparing Michael with the DD on LKL.
I tried to edit my post but the possibility to edit our posts works just for a very short time... I liked the old "version", when we had time to fix our typos etc.

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Dave Dave on Larry King Live
« on: June 03, 2011, 07:30:57 PM »
Quote from: "MJearthsong"
Hi, sorry for asking, I can't seem to find the thread about dave dave, I'm new :)
It's funny cos his pics as a kid he has blue eyes, now as an adult he has brown? Or wearing contacts??
Hi,
you can find many threads about him in the "Everyone Else" section.
I also started a thread about comparing the look of the real DD and the DD on LKL. But somehow all the photos (and there were a lot) we posted there disappeared, and the thread worth nothing now without the pictures. I hope Souza can do something about it.
We also discussed that the Larry King DD was at the funeral and he sat next to Liz Taylor. Also: "DD was not late at the funeral, we see him sitting in the aisle even while others arrived." There were photos about it too...
If you are interested about how the real DD lookes like (color of eyes, etc. as a kid and as an adult), you may find the video I made about him useful. I tried to show how the real DD looks like (starting showing photos from his childhood) and proving why he and the LKL DD are different persons.
But the best would be if the thread I'm talking about could be fixed.

the thread: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

my video:
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I hope I could help.

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Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Quote from: "DREAMSandTRUTH"
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Quote from: "iamamjbeliever"
1direction4MJ
Pastor now says jury selection will begin on Sept. 8 and opening statements will begin later that month.

michael is dead


NO HE IS NOT DEAD..

Thank you all4loveandbelieve. People, please have a little faith. It can't all happen like you expect...it's not in our control after all. Blessings :)
This is exactly why it is so hard, because it's not in our control at all but at the same time we are effected whether we want or not.
voiceforthesilent and all4loveandbelieve you guys are really nice that you want to make us feel better, I appreciate it, but for me this hoax is upsetting since the beginning. I can stay away from the hoax for shorter or longer periods, but it doesn't solve anything. Who knows, maybe we never will know what happened - as we are not in control, not in the know. We are just waiting and waiting and spending our energy and time with it.


Exactly spend your energy in more important stuff in your life. Yes Michael is important but we all do have a life, and we all do have a family and friends. Life is very short so enjoy every moment . Spend time with them go out to watch a movie. This hoax is upsetting for all of us, but yet entertainment. You have to admit some stuff are funny.  I feel bad for most of you who are losing faith and getting upset over this trial. How can there be a trial if noone has died??? Please explain??
Thank you all4loveandbelieve. You are very kind. And this is exactly I plan to do: spend less time with the hoax.
I just want to tell that I really don't find anything funny in this hoax. This forum is a nice place, we have fun here sometimes, but it's not because this hoax is partly funny (I mean for me it's not), it's because we need to relax sometimes.
Probably noone died, but we cannot be 100% sure, we don't know it, we just think/believe/hope that Michael is alive. But we don't know. The later Michael comes back (if he ever does) the later we will know the truth.
Okay, maybe there will be no trial and he will come back before September, but maybe he won't come back ever.
I should care about Michael much less - then I could feel better, relax. But as I want the best for him, I just can't be so calm and patient because who knows what is going on. Again we can't be sure he is alive, maybe this hoax is not Michael's hoax and some people are fooling with us. And if the last one is the case, then I don't want to be fooled for years.

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Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Quote from: "iamamjbeliever"
1direction4MJ
Pastor now says jury selection will begin on Sept. 8 and opening statements will begin later that month.

michael is dead


NO HE IS NOT DEAD..

Thank you all4loveandbelieve. People, please have a little faith. It can't all happen like you expect...it's not in our control after all. Blessings :)
This is exactly why it is so hard, because it's not in our control at all but at the same time we are effected whether we want or not.
voiceforthesilent and all4loveandbelieve you guys are really nice that you want to make us feel better, I appreciate it, but for me this hoax is upsetting since the beginning. I can stay away from the hoax for shorter or longer periods, but it doesn't solve anything. Who knows, maybe we never will know what happened - as we are not in control, not in the know. We are just waiting and waiting and spending our energy and time with it.

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Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Quote from: "hesouttamylife"
I haven't given up but I am sick and tired of being sick and tired.  Nothing I can do but wait it out or go out of my mind.  Either way, it's not good  crash/


I will give you a suggestion, more an advice take a break, do something for yourself, go to a spa, go away for the weekend. Michael does not want any one of his fans to get sick over his hoax. You need to focus on yourself right now. This is what I am doing and it works wonders.. This  advice is for everyone. I know the wait can be so tireing, and agravated, remember something there is always a reason for something. Just think Michael may have not finished what he had to do!  Hope this will help everyone...
I'm sure he doesn't want us to suffer but this is what we do - and he had to know that this would happen before he started this hoax.
About taking a break: I just took a break, I read only a few news about the hoax during last month.
But although it is good not to focus that much on the hoax, it is still frustrating not knowing the truth (not just that whether he is alive or not, but WHY he is doing this hoax).
I don't know what Michael is doing, why he is doing it, but I have to tell that I really don't like this hoax, I never did.
And the longer it goes the more frustrating it is.

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Quote from: "suspicious mind"
wow a head wound huh. seems like i can remember something of the anti-christ to come from the middle east and supposedly come back from the dead from some sort of head wound . didn't someone even touch on this on the visions thread? where is Gema?

some how this makes me think of the twillight zone line about not being the end of a nightmare but the beginning .

by the way when is the trial due to start?  this seems like a good way to have an excuse to put on "more important " news than to be covering the trial. just a thought.
When I heard of Bin Laden today, I thought that the trial would be postponed because of this "big" news. If the media is focusing on Bin Laden, the trial of Michael won't get enough attention. And I seem to be right: I just read on the other thread that it will probably be postponed. Just great...

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Hoax Pictures / Re: New Pic and Michael's handwritting!
« on: April 07, 2011, 07:36:57 AM »
Quote from: "mac5k"


The quality of the photo is so bad that it can easily be someone in a cheap mask.
About the handwriting, I agree with Le Papillon Bleu:
"I think he she made a photoshop note : took words written by Michael and posted them on a blank page"

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TIAI ~ 2011 / Re: TIAI March 9
« on: April 07, 2011, 06:26:16 AM »
Quote from: "starchild"
Quote from: "DREAMSandTRUTH"
Quote from: "starchild"
Distraction. This is exactly what I have been thinking about the TS thread as a whole, but I have been hesitant to express my opinion.  Nevertheless, here it is.  Please forgive me in advance, if necessary.

I actually read through all the TIAI info as well as a number of TS’ posts and redirects a couple of months ago as a lurker on this site.  I ultimately chose not to get too wrapped up in TS’ input because it hurt my brain to think about it.

I’ll  explain.  In the past month or so, one of the MJDH members (I don’t remember who) basically posted that she was frustrated with TS’ posts because she felt like his input was just one big circle without end.   I agree.  TS seems to suggest infinite questions (problems) in need of answering and then provides clues (seeming tidbits towards solutions) that keep hoaxers’ attention continually focused on solving questions that, for the most part, can only be answered with best guesses (hence, the never-ending circle).   For one example, if all of TS’ numerology puzzles were suddenly solved, what difference would it make?  In short, what is the overall purpose of TS’ posts?  Some say his input is meant to get members to think for themselves so as not to get distracted (from a bigger picture).  However, the irony is that TS’ info potentially absorbs hoaxers’ attention/thinking (to the extent of craving his posts) to the point that the focus on comprehending his convoluted writing and riddles is in itself a distraction.  This is not to suggest that TS is deliberately creating a distraction (maybe he is, maybe he isn’t).  The point is that absorption in his posts—and thereby, absorption in his way of thinking—is contrary to thinking for one’s self.  
 
It’s all about conscious attention.   That’s my perspective, anyway.  ;)
Thank you for your post, starchild!
I personally find it very possible that TS is deliberately creating a distraction. When I wrote above "Do you mean that someone wants to distract us so we cannot see the important thing?" I actually meant that that "someone" is TS.
Maybe we really should start a new thread about this topic, as Souza suggested. As I see, this is important to many of us.
Thank you, DREAMSandTRUTH.  I had been thinking of giving this post a bump to generate thought.  It kind of got lost in the shuffle of more recent posts.
There are so many people here, with different opinions, so it always happens that our posts seem to get lost. It doesn't mean that members don't read them, or don't think them over, it's just  not everybody thinks alike or is interested in the same topic, etc. I posted a similar opinion about TS on page 30, but not too many people reacted to it either. I just wanted to call people's attention to the possibility that TS might just want to distract us, or simply is playing with us - but I guess people here already thought it over thoroughly (probably many times) and made their decisions in connection with TS. Many members trust him/her as I see, and I have to respect their decisions. So I start to think that not too many people would be interested to talk about TS's intentions... Well, I shared my thoughts here, everyone had the opportunity to think them over, and I think that's it...

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Other Odd Things / Re: Michael Jackson stunt is a lookalike thriller
« on: April 06, 2011, 09:05:58 AM »
My first thought about this news was that maybe this is the continuation of clearing Michael's name. The Jackson family has been clearing his name during this hoax in connection with many other false accusations and slanders. This incident is something which haters still can bring up against Michael, so it is time the Jacksons say/do something about it which will stop haters being able to bring it up again.
I know it sounds odd, but maybe this statue is the idea of the Jacksons...
Maybe I'm too optimistic. But it sounds a bit strange that anyone would make such a negative statue about Michael after his death. They surely knew fans and every sane people would turn against them, so why doing it? They have to be really sick and stupid for doing it. I rather think it was the idea of the Jacksons.
We will see.

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