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« on: January 18, 2014, 09:19:57 AM »
I would guess that this whole Lloyd's thing had to be settled one way or another. Like it says, the terms of the settlement are secret and we don't know how much $ allegedly changed hands here, we only have media reports saying it happened. And think of all the free publicity Lloyd's received in the last 4.5 years. We shouldn't let this payout or whatever it is get in the way of what we already know.
I agree with you, we don't know the exact story about this settlement.
Lloyd's has paid something to settle. Maybe Lloyd's admits some failures (e.g. didn't send doctors to do medical exams on Michael), made a settlement with AEG and is paying back the insurance premium or a part of it.
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Even though Lloyds didn’t pay off on Jackson’s death,
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« on: January 13, 2014, 05:20:04 PM »
Judge Rejects Bid for New Michael Jackson Trial
LOS ANGELES January 14, 2014 (AP)
By ANTHONY McCARTNEY AP Entertainment Writer
Associated Press
A judge has refused to grant a new trial in a lawsuit by Michael Jackson's mother against the promoter of his ill-fated comeback concerts.
Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos ruled Monday that there isn't any basis to re-try Katherine Jackson's suit against AEG Live LLC.
A jury determined in October that AEG Live was not liable for Jackson's June 2009 death despite hiring the doctor who was convicted of giving the superstar an overdose of a powerful anesthetic.
Lawyers for the Jackson family matriarch argued that jurors were given an improper verdict form that didn't allow them to consider all issues in the case after five months of testimony last year.
AEG's lawyers argued that there was no mistake in the verdict form.
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« on: January 06, 2014, 05:59:36 AM »
Thanks for posting Reveron.
Controversy :icon_rolleyes: I think a lot of assumptions are being made (again!)
I mean connections are made too easily and "voila, we got a story!" It's like 1+1=5.
I found Morphline Pictures on LinkedInMorphline Pictures Ltd.
Morphline Pictures Ltd.
Launched in December 2013 by brothers, Michael and Prince, Morphline Pictures is an independent production company which produces high quality online, television and film content for a worldwide audience. We specialise in scripted content, ranging from comedy to drama.
Our motto is high quality, fresh, innovative and captivating. Our goal is to captivate the audience imagination by enhancing their watching experience with captivating stories, mind blowing graphics and magical sounds. Whether they are watching it sitting in front of their computer or in a cinema.
Our first production is an online action stickman animated series titled "KILL THEM ALL" about a boy whom after witnessing his fathers' murder goes on a one man crusade to avenge his death.
Other upcoming projects include Bad Cop and Lampos' Earth Adventures. We are also working on other projects for both television and the big screen.
Watch out for Morphline Pictures because we are coming.
^^This doesn't mean it is connected to the Jacksons.
Even a psychiatrist is giving his comments on this story. :Pulling_hair:
Facts shouldn't be based on assumptions. The sources aren't clear either. Daily Mail should have checked out sources and facts first.
Sorry, but this 'news' isn't exactly credible to me
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« on: December 18, 2013, 06:29:40 PM »
Thanks Mary. I've been surfing around and just saw that too. The Howard Mann of the Michael Jackson Secret Vault fiasco. This somewhat explains the asking for money from fans to complete it...just like last time.
Yes and remember the Estate sued Howard Mann and they settled out-of-court.
However
"The settlement also restricts Howard Mann and his companies from using Jackson’s likeness without permission in the future"
I remember this TMZ article about Howard Mann, which has been discussed on this forum before.
MJ Songs, Art and Photos -- Tale of Thievery
1/20/2011 7:15 PM PST BY TMZ STAFF
Katherine Jackson's business partner illegally made millions of bucks from Michael Jackson's music, photos and drawings -- this according to a lawsuit filed by MJ's Estate and obtained by TMZ.
The MJ Estate has sued Howard Mann -- the guy behind MichaelJacksonSecretVault.com -- claiming Mann has duped fans into believing his website was kosher ... when it was in fact, "rife with illegal uses of Michael Jackson intellectual property."
According to the lawsuit, Mann displayed "arrogant disregard" for the Estate's copyrights on all things MJ ... and wrongfully published clips, artwork and trailers from "This Is It" -- content from the "Thriller: 25th Anniversary Edition" CD and much, much more.
The Estate also accuses Mann of posting an "unreleased" MJ song called "Opis None" ... which in reality, was a remix of the song "Destiny" which The Jacksons released in 1979. The Estate claims Mann had no right to publish the song ... and the confusion he caused damaged the MJ Estate.
The Estate also claims Mann published several sketches that MJ drew himself ... including one titled, "Bubbles Chair" ... as well as a number of copyrighted photographs in Katherine Jackson's coffee table book, "Never Can Say Goodbye."
The Estate believes Mann hauled in more than $1.5 million in sales from the book in its first two days -- money that rightfully belongs to the Jackson Estate.
The Estate wants to recoup all of the revenues Mann raked in from the sale and publication of the Estate's property ... plus punitive damages -- which surely could be in the tens of millions.
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« on: December 15, 2013, 03:00:14 PM »
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Los Angeles (CNN) -- Four jurors in the Michael Jackson wrongful death trial said they feel cheated by the outcome, which they blame on a misleading verdict form.
The six-month-long trial ended in October with a victory for AEG Live, the concert promoter Jackson's mother and children had claimed was liable for his death because it hired, retained or supervised the doctor convicted of involuntary manslaughter in the death.
The jurors, whose sworn statements were attached to a motion for a new trial filed Thursday by Katherine Jackson's lawyers, said most of the jury wanted to find concert promoter AEG Live liable in Jackson's 2009 death.
Along with arguing that the verdict form was faulty, the Jackson lawyers contend the judge erred by refusing to let them pursue a negligence claim independent of the hiring case.
AEG not liable in Michael Jackson's death, jury finds
Jackson died from an overdose of the surgical anesthetic propofol on June 25, 2009, which Dr. Conrad Murray told police he used to treat the pop icon's insomnia as he prepared for a tour produced by AEG Live.
They jurors used the words "stunned," "upset" and "shocked" when they were told they had to stop deliberations after a majority agreed that the answer was "no" to the second question on the verdict form -- "Was Dr. Conrad Murray unfit or incompetent to perform the work for which he was hired?"
One juror called the question "a trap that prevented us from deliberating on the real issues of the case."
"After sitting through almost six months of the trial in this case, I believed that Mrs. Jackson had proven her case against AEG LIve," another juror said. "Despite this fact, I had no way of voting in favor of the plaintiffs because of the way that the verdict form was worded."
Jackson lawyers, in their arguments for a new trial, contend that Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazeulos erred by denying their request to add the words "at any time" to the question.
The four jurors, whose names were redacted from the documents released by the court, agreed.
"I would like the judge to know that we did not have the opportunity to deliberate or render a verdict on the plaintiffs claims that Dr Murray did not become unfit or incompetent until after the conflict of interest was created, Dr. Murray's duties were changed, pressures were mounting, or even after the contract was prepared and signed by Dr. Murray," one juror said.
The jury voted "no" only after one member convinced them that the question could have only meant "at the time he was hired," two of the juror statements said.
Conrad Murray talks about Michael Jackson's death
"During our deliberations, I asked to send a question to the judge to explain Question 2, but by then the foreman had already answered 'no' and followed the instructions to sign the form," one said. "I feel so cheated because I sat through five months of trial and listened to a lot of evidence on the ethical conflict created -- yet I never got to even deliberate at all on that issue or even review the hundreds of exhibits that had been brought in."
Another juror said they decided not to ask the judge for direction on the second question because "we did not want anyone to know where we were in deliberations."
"I do not believe that the verdict form was fair or worded incorrectly, and as phrased, Question 2 was a trap that prevented us from deliberating on the real issues of the case," a juror said.
The same juror described the emotional toll it has caused. "Since the jury verdict, I have been very upset, and initially I was unable to eat or even check my e-mails because I was so sorry about the verdict and the fact that justice was not done in this case, because of how question 2 on the verdict form was worded."
"I do not think that justice was achieved in this case," another said.
The affidavits revealed that one of the 12 jurors refused to stop deliberating despite being told it was over. "He insisted that we continue answering the rest of the questions," a juror said.
Judge Palazeulos will hear arguments on the new trial motion on January 3.
Thanks for posting RK.
Indeed this ain't over yet.
Here's a link about the filed motion dated December 12th:
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« on: December 08, 2013, 04:46:36 PM »
Interesting article, everlastinglove_MJ. Thanks for posting. So MJ sang and created this song in the 90's.
Your welcome :icon_e_smile:
Yes, MJ started recording in august 1998 and the song is expected to be released officially in Spring 2014. Interesting time line of 16 years in total. This could also be a time line concerning the hoax project.
and...I'm not a mathematical type of person :icon_geek: but a square root of 16 is 4, which makes me think of TII's "4 years to get it right"
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« on: December 07, 2013, 07:40:16 AM »
I am listening to this song all day, I love it :icon_razz: This story on twitter caught my eye this morning and I thought I'd share it here.
Michael Jackson’s “A Place With No Name” – The Story Behind The Song
by DAMIEN SHIELDS posted on DECEMBER 6, 2013
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On July 16, 2009, just three weeks after his tragic passing, a portion of an unreleased Michael Jackson song leaked online. Celebrity gossip website TMZ posted a twenty-four second snippet of the track, called “A Place With No Name”. For the past four-and-a-half years the twenty-four second snippet is all that Michael Jackson fans have had access to. That is, until now.
A few days ago, on December 3, 2013, the full-length version of the song, which is essentially a lyrically re-written cover of the 1972 hit “A Horse With No Name” by the band America, appeared online to the delight of Jackson enthusiasts around the world. With the leak of the track came questions about its origins – some of which could be answered by reading previously published interviews with those who worked on the track, and others which remained unanswered. This article aims to put all the pieces of the puzzle in one place to tell the complete story behind the song.
“A Place With No Name” was first conceived in 1998 by Elliot Straite, a talented singer, songwriter, and music producer who goes by the name “Dr. Freeze”. Record executive John McClain, who was managing Michael Jackson at the time (and is now coincidentally a co-executor of The Michael Jackson Estate) gave Freeze the opportunity of a lifetime – to collaborate with the King of Pop.
“I knew his manager, John McClain, and I was working on an album with my partners, Spydermann,” recalls Freeze. “After completing the album, it did not go as planned and we had to cancel the project. I was very upset. And then John McClain said, ‘Do not worry Freeze. I have another project for you. You’ll be in business with Michael.’ I said, ‘Michael who?’ And he said, ‘Michael Jackson!’”
“I did not believe it at first and I thought it was crazy. And then one day I was on the phone with my father and someone called me on the other line… It was Michael! That’s how it all began… That’s how we met.”
“It was pretty scary for me! I felt like I was back in primary school and not knowing anything about the production! With Michael I relearned everything,” told Freeze. “The other producers and I were as students facing a teacher. With Michael, it was as if we knew nothing more to the business; we had to start over and relearn everything. He taught us to do everything the best way possible. Michael was a perfectionist… I was very nervous. Very nervous but very honored! He knew all about the music industry; everything about everything. Nothing was foreign to him, and he taught me a lot.”
“I introduced him to many songs. The main songs on which we worked are ‘Break Of Dawn’, ‘A Place With No Name’ and ‘Blue Gangsta’,” explained Freeze. “These three songs were our priorities… He adored them! Michael and I, we have a knack for melody,” he continued. “So every time I proposed something, it was easy for him to study the song because it was as if he already knew. I gave him some songs that he adored. He cherished them.”
“I did all the music, and he only had to learn the lyrics,” continued Freeze. “‘A Place With No Name’ is itself a kind of escape, a song where you just close your eyes to find yourself instantly transported into a wonderful world. In fact, this song was inspired by ‘A Horse With No Name’ from the group America. The lyrics of this song are very deep. I wanted to refresh it, make a version for the 2000s as well… The group America loved the idea. They found this ‘update’ absolutely terrific. They were really excited about this project.”
After presenting the tracks to Jackson, the pair began collaborating on musical ideas at Record Plant Recording Studios in Los Angeles, in August of 1998. At the time, engineer and bass guitarist CJ deVillar was assisting them with the engineering side of things. During a session Freeze told CJ that he wanted to have a bass guitar sound on “A Place With No Name”.
“I told Freeze I can play [bass] and would be happy to lay something down for him,” says CJ. “I brought my bass down to the studio, and a few days later Freeze was ready to record it. The problem was I was a bit concerned to play on MJ’s tracks while MJ was around. I just didn’t want to jeopardize my position as an ‘Engineer’ goofing around on Michael’s music, but in the end it was unfounded paranoia on my part.”
“Regardless, we waited till late in the eve when Michael usually slipped out for home long before that,” he recalls. “At least based on his M.O. from the previous few weeks.”
It was August 25, 1998 when CJ laid down his pass parts at the Record Plant. But it didn’t go to plan for the engineer, with Jackson catching him in the act!
“When I was certain Michael had left the studio I plugged in my bass and started to play around with the track with Freeze. But the very second I plugged in, I saw Michael emerge from his studio lounge through the vocal booth glass and into the control room, so I was like, ‘Uh oh!’”
“Michael immediately said, ‘What are you guys doing?’ I replied sheepishly, ‘Laying down some bass, Mike.’”
He said, ‘Let’s hear it,’ so I played a few bass licks and he immediately got excited and said, ‘Are you recording?’
“Umm, no Mike, I’m just trying to find a vibe.”
“Mike said, ‘Play and record it all!’ So I dropped in (hit record) and jammed on the song. Well, Michael turned up the big main speakers LOUD and was loving what I was playing.”
What happened next between Michael and CJ was truly a magic moment.
“After several seconds Michael was in my face rockin’ out while I pulled off all kinds of bass ideas,” he recalls. “At the end of that pass he said to do another and off we went again. Michael was poppin’ and lockin’, playing air guitar while we pulled out rock poses in front of the console.”
“He would say, ‘Oh yeah CJ, that was stinky! Sooo stinky!’ (a good thing for Mike) ‘Lets do another!’”
“I dropped in a total of five or six times with the last one being a solid groove track so we didn’t have to comp a bunch of bass ideas to make the song listenable right away,” explained CJ. “After more than a half-hour of rockin’ with Michael and a few more loud playbacks, I put together a quick rough mix and made him a dat tape to listen to. He graciously thanked me again and then went home for the day… I had a lot of fun recording Michael and Freeze… It showed me Michael’s relentless musical energy so vividly.”
The next day, August 26, 1998, Jackson arrived back at Record Plant Recording Studios ready to record the background vocals and “na nas” with Dr. Freeze, lead engineer Mike Ging and second engineer Jeff Burns.
While the majority of the background vocals on the track belong solely to Freeze, there are a few instances where the two have recorded in harmony and were then compiled seamlessly together by Ging.
After about a week of tweaking and editing the rough “A Place With No Name” mix, which was exactly 8 minutes in length at that point, Jackson was ready record the lead vocals. This session, again recorded by Mike Ging, took place at Record Plant on September 8, 1998.
Record Plant Recording Studios has about six studio rooms on site – two of which were hired by Jackson’s team. This meant that Jackson had little privacy with numerous other artists coming and going at any one time from the four others studios. Because of this, Jackson conducted his trademark vocal warm-ups with Seth Riggs before arriving at the studio to record.
“We never saw him do his vocal exercises before us,” recalls Dr. Freeze. “But when he came into the studio to record, he stood before the microphone and set fire to the song. As he left, the studio was in ashes and our jaws on the floor. It was really impressive to see.”
Jackson’s lead vocals were recorded by Mike Ging on a Neumann M149 microphone. Additional leads were recorded on October 16, 1998, by Ging at Ocean Way Recording, which is commonly referred to as Record One. The following day, October 17, Ging worked on a new mix. From there, “A Place With No Name” did some serious studio-hopping.
“It was such a round robin back in those days,” said recording engineer Michael Prince, who was bouncing between Brad Buxer’s room and Dr. Freeze’s room. “At one point we ended up at Marvin’s Place. We then moved back to the Record Plant, then back to Record One again.”
“Typically I was working mostly on the songs Brad [Buxer] and Michael [Jackson] were writing. We had our hands busy with about five or six songs, two of which, ‘Speechless’ and ‘The Lost Children’ made it on the [Invincible] album.”
At Record One on February 21, 1999, six months after starting the process Jackson, Freeze, Prince, Buxer and Ging revisited “A Place With No Name”, making additional minor edits.
“We were very happy at Record One and that’s where we got the majority of our work done. That’s when Rodney [Jerkins] joined the team. For at least the last month that we were at Record One Rodney, Fred [Jerkins] and LaShawn Daniels were there.”
At the end of March 1999 Jackson flew out to New York to work at The Hit Factory with Cory Rooney on a track called “She Was Lovin’ Me”. Jackson spent the best part of a month in the studio with Rooney, who remembers the pair did just as much goofing around as they did working on music.
“We spent so much time – I would say we worked for a good two weeks – on tweaking alone,” said Rooney. “Not just the vocals but different things, comps. And it took two weeks because we spent more time laughing and joking and talking and having such a good time in the studio. We stretched it out just to have fun. In the end we spent most of April in the studio kind of plotting and planning. We used that as our kind of headquarters to really get the record in line.”
“I could have taken advantage of the situation and tried to produce six songs and get Michael to record them, but I didn’t care for that,” added Rooney. “I just wanted to give him anything at that time that he needed. And I felt like he needed to have fun and to have a friend more so than some guy trying to push songs on him. That was genuinely what I truly felt in my heart. We had a great time.”
After wrapping the “She Was Lovin’ Me” sessions with Rooney, Jackson decided to move all collaborative sessions from Record One in Los Angeles to The Hit Factory in New York.
“It took us days to make copies of all the tapes and hard drives, and label them, then everything got shipped to The Hit Factory in New York and we spent months there,” said LA-based Michael Prince.
The Hit Factory engineer Paul J. Falcone worked on a mix of “A Place With No Name” in early May 1999 in New York. However, after Falcone completed his mix, the song got put on the backburner, along with Cory Rooney’s “She Was Lovin’ Me” and Dr. Freeze’s “Blue Gangsta”, which was being worked on at the same time as “A Place With No Name”.
By mid-1999 Jackson had seemingly dropped many of his former collaborations to focus on working with Rodney Jerkins, and Jerkins had done the same in return.
“It was up to me to finish the music (for ‘She Was Lovin’ Me’), to make the music track better and stronger,” explained Rooney. “And I completely lost the opportunity to do that because I got so caught up in trying to help Rodney Jerkins deliver for Michael.”
In the end it wasn’t until January 2004 that “A Place With No Name” was revisited. Jackson had asked to hear it again and some minor edits were made at Neverland.
“It has improved gradually,” said Freeze. “It was incremental work. He listened to the different mixes and changed some details around here or there. He was in full creative control. We wanted the song to be perfect… It was a bit like a director looking to improve his film by changing the script or changing players. This is the type of process that was used to create this song, and overall, the album ‘Invincible’… All that interested him was to have #1 hits.”
Freeze’s statement about Michael wanting to have hits was later echoed by producer RedOne, and also by Jackson himself.
“Michael always has been focused on having hits,” said RedOne, who spent time working with Jackson between 2008 and 2009. “So he always records a lot of songs and takes the best of them. That’s his formula, which I love.”
“It was Tchaikovsky that influenced me the most,” revealed Jackson in a 2007 interview. “If you take an album like ‘Nutcracker Suite’, every song is a killer, every one… People used to do an album where you’d get one good song, and the rest were like B-sides. They’d call them ‘album songs’ and I would say to myself, ‘Why can’t every one be like a hit song? Why can’t every song be so great that people would want to buy it if you could release it as a single?’ So I always tried to strive for that… That was the whole idea… I worked hard for it.”
Other than those minor 2004 tweaks and edits, “A Place With No Name” was again put on the backburner until being resurrected merely a year before Jackson’s death, in mid-2008.
“Michael Jackson had favorite songs, or songs that were works-in-progress,” said Michael Prince. “Once Neff-U took over from Brad [Buxer] when Brad started flying again in 2008, Michael brought out some songs, including “A Place With No Name”, and said, ‘Here work with this song. See what you can come up with for this song.’ So the vocals were always pretty much the same, but Neff-U would put new music on them.”
“Neff-U had originally worked with Michael, Brad Buxer and I long before 2008,” continued Prince. “He originally came to Brad’s house years earlier and worked on some stuff that never came out, like ‘Hot Fun In The Summertime’ – the 1969 Sly Stone song. I think MJ only sang a tiny bit on that one, but they were trying a bunch of stuff. Neff-U is very talented.”
The version of “A Place With No Name” that leaked is the final version Michael heard and approved in 2008.
“Compared with the 2004 version you can hear the drums are different in the leaked 2008 version. It has a different kick drum pattern, a little stronger snare, and the ‘na nas’ are copied to repeat through the fade,” said Prince, who personally looped the “na nas” for Jackson.
The mid-2008 edits were all made in Jackson’s home studio, at his 2710 Palomino Lane property in Las Vegas. Coincidentally, Freeze made a visit to Jackson at his Vegas home studio shortly before Jackson moved to Los Angeles. The pair had reunited to discuss the next chapter of Jackson’s musical journey.
“I was in the studio with him shortly before his death,” recalls Freeze. “To be precise, I remember going to see him at his residence in Vegas, and there was a studio there… Nothing was recorded, we just brainstormed. We were about to start recording sessions… I offered a few new songs I had written especially for him.”
“He loved [the songs] very much,” says Freeze. “This was our last discussion. He said ‘I love you’ and voila, it was over. He wanted to save [the songs], but he died.”
In the aftermath of Jackson’s death, as detailed at the beginning of this article, a snippet of “A Place With No Name” leaked online, via TMZ.
It was quickly identified as being a remake of America’s “A Horse With No Name”, prompting the group to comment on Jackson’s rendition.
“We’re honored that Michael Jackson chose to record it and we’re impressed with the quality of the track,” said America band members Dewey Bunnell and Gerry Beckley in a statement made to MTV. “We’re also hoping it will be released soon so that music listeners around the world can hear the whole song and once again experience the incomparable brilliance of Michael Jackson,” they added. “Michael Jackson really did it justice and we truly hope his fans – and our fans – get to hear it in its entirety. It’s really poignant.”
Dr. Freeze reminisced on his time with Jackson during an interview with Michael Jackson fansite MJFrance.com, quoted on numerous occasions throughout this story.
“He was simply the most wonderful person with whom you could never dream of working with,” remembers Dr. Freeze. “He was very humble and creative. From dusk till dawn, he created sounds, melodies, harmonies… He could do everything himself. You know, Michael was truly a ‘living instrument’… It was quite an experience for me. I learned a lot from him.”
“A Place With No Name” remains officially unreleased to this day. Dr. Freeze has stated on a number of occasions that “A Place With No Name”, as well as “Blue Gangsta”, will be included on the next Michael Jackson album. “That I know. This is confirmed.” he said, adding that the album is scheduled to come out in Spring 2014.
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« on: December 03, 2013, 05:58:05 PM »
Thanks for posting the final version, Applehead. I like that song!
@sweetsunset, thanks for the lyrics.
When you thought you could be in another world I think that this song is about how it actually is, which is that he was looking for a place where he could find happiness and where he could live in peace and he finally found this place where he's living a new life ("another world") and where he can't be found because to the world it has 'no name'. :icon_e_wink:
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« on: November 28, 2013, 05:17:59 PM »
(Off Topic: how do you get TMZ articles to post with the picture included as well as the text?)
By clicking right mouse button on the image and choose option 'copy image URL' , which you paste in the image icon :compute:
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« on: November 28, 2013, 04:56:15 PM »
MICHAEL JACKSON ESTATE
Rips Conrad Murray Over Penis-Holding Claims
YOU'RE A SHAMEFUL COWARD
11/28/2013 10:00 AM PST BY TMZ STAFF
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BREAKING NEWS
The Michael Jackson Estate has had just about enough of Dr. Conrad Murray running his mouth -- talking about things like how he used to hold MJ's penis every night -- and now it's demanding he shut up once and for all ... or face a lawsuit.
MJ Estate lawyer Howard Weitzman fired off a cease and desist letter to Murray earlier this week, writing, "Your recent comments to the media about Mr. Jackson’s medical treatment and ultimate death shamefully violate the physician-patient privilege under California law."
He calls Murray a COWARD for attempting to use the media to defend himself ... instead of testifying in court during his manslaughter trial.
If Murray keeps talking, Weitzman says the Estate will file suit -- and will subsequently inform any medical board with which Murray attempts to obtain his medical license that he violates the doctor-patient privilege willy-nilly.
As we reported, Murray has been blabbing his big mouth all over the place ... telling reporters all sorts of sordid details about MJ, like how the singer couldn't hold in his pee while he was sleeping ... and how he held MJ's penis every night.
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« on: November 26, 2013, 07:54:15 AM »
How Do You Explain This, Conrad? Michael Jackson’s Fingerprints Were Never Found On The Vials Which Death Doc Claims Pop Star Injected!
Posted on Nov 25, 2013 @ 14:39PM | By Jen Heger - Assistant Managing Editor
Conrad Murray-lie exposed michael jackson
Michael Jackson‘s death doctor, Conrad Murray, has insisted the singer accidentally ended his own life after injecting himself with a lethal dose of a surgical anesthetic.
But the singer’s former personal physician has been caught in what appears to be an EPIC lie: The King of Pop’s fingerprints were never found on any of the medical equipment or vials which were found at the Holmby Hills, Calif., death scene.
In his first interview after being released from prison, the defiant doctor said: “That night he just couldn’t sleep. I prescribed him drugs to help, including valium and lorazepam [an anti-anxiety treatment], but he was begging, pleading, close to tears. ‘I want sleep, please Dr Conrad, I need sleep.’ I told him, ‘This is not normal. What I’ve given you would put an elephant to sleep.’
“In the other bedroom [Michael’s private chamber], the police found an open bottle of lorazepam. They found tablets in his stomach. I didn’t give him those. Michael took extra tablets. And he injected himself.”
But as RadarOnline.com first revealed in the middle of Murray’s involuntary manslaughter trial, Jackson’s fingerprints were never found on ANY Propofol or Lorazepam bottles, or intravenous tubing.
“The Los Angeles Police Department didn’t find any fingerprints of Michael Jackson’s on any Propofol bottles or the Lorazepam bottles. There were no partial fingerprints of Michael’s or any unknown prints on the medication bottles,” revealed a source close to the initial investigation.
During Murray’s media blitz since being released from jail, the disgraced doctor has said Jackson wasn’t the biological father to his three children — Prince, 16; Paris, 16; and Prince Michael II, 10, who’s also known as Blanket — and that he held the legendary singer’s penis every night whilst he administered Propofol.
In another development, RadarOnline.com has learned Jackson family matriarch Katherine was “implored” by the Deputy District Attorney to seek restitution from the disgraced medico.
But Jackson’s mother refused to pursue that option, because her attorneys who would later unsuccessfully try her wrongful death lawsuit against AEG Live believed it would jeopardize their case.
Said one source: “Katherine now has to read all of this utter nonsense that Conrad is spewing to any media outlet that will listen. Murray is so delusional and narcissistic, the claims that he is making about Michael will only get more sensational.”
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« on: November 25, 2013, 06:40:53 PM »
"Murray has refused to go under the OATH KNIFE and his attempt to exploit Michael are despicable and disgusting."
Murray took the fifth to avoid telling the truth, ..and he is still not talking under oath so WHY should we believe him now?
The title reminds me of this tmz story in which Murray is threatening the Jackson family with a nuclear warning You are not allowed to view links.
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Now we're really scared (i've got no nails left lol) :errrr: :LolLolLolLol:
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« on: November 25, 2013, 06:08:17 PM »
Lol, this fits in the hype of stories of ALIVE celebrity death hoaxes You are not allowed to view links.
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« on: November 23, 2013, 06:46:20 PM »
The well-placed Murray source said Katherine’s legal team presented the secret draft letter when it wanted Murray to sign a declaration supporting Katherine’s wrongful-death lawsuit against concert promoter AEG Live. A well-placed Murray source.. it doesn't matter what this well-placed or high-placed 'source' is saying.. since there is no legitimate proof I won't believe any of this assuming and accusing 'news'.
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« on: November 20, 2013, 06:13:48 PM »
Michael Jackson Wrongful Death Case to Change Tune for Entertainment Insurance
By Sue Zeidler | October 2, 2013
When Britney Spears takes the stage this December for the first of a heavily hyped 100-show two-year residency at Planet Hollywood in Las Vegas, the loudest cheers may come from her insurance underwriters.
Along with the sound engineers and roadies who help stage a concert, insurance underwriters play a large role in making sure a star can get onstage and grab the microphone. Insurers are also key during those times when stars do not show and concerts get canceled.
On Wednesday afternoon, a Los Angeles jury found AEG Live was not liable in the wrongful death lawsuit filed by the family of late pop singer Michael Jackson, in a case where lawyers in court papers had suggested the damages could exceed $1 billion.
The fact that AEG Live found itself at the center of the wrongful death suit had sent shockwaves through the music world in past months, with concert promoters as well as well-known entertainment insurers like AON/Albert G Ruben and Lloyd’s of London expected to beef up policies for acts they insure and potentially raise some prices.
Even though AEG was not held responsible, insurance experts believe the case has spurred the industry to re-think policies and find ways to prevent similar situations down the road.
The role of Dr. Conrad Murray, convicted for manslaughter for his role in administering a fatal dose of the surgical anesthetic propofol to Jackson, is already prompting changes, say underwriters. In the future, the star or his promoter may be required to carry separate insurance on his entourage.
“The biggest stars all have doctors and their own staff,” said Lorrie McNaught, senior vice president at Aon/Albert G. Ruben Insurance Services Inc., a large entertainment insurance firm, which has handled many of the world’s biggest tours over the last 12 months.
“If you have a security guard who winds up punching someone in the face or kills someone, who is responsible?
“Is it the artist, the bodyguard, the promoter? I think promoters will require stars to indemnify their own staff,” said McNaught. “Even if AEG was not held responsible, I still think this case will make attorneys find ways to tighten contracts.”
An attorney for Lloyd’s of London involved in the Michael Jackson case declined comment for this story.
The price of premiums also may go up, according to one concert producer who did not want his name used. Currently, promoters pay 3 percent to 5 percent of the value of the policy, meaning that AEG paid between $530,000 and $875,000 for the $17.5 million policy it took out with Lloyd’s of London for Jackson’s “This is It” tour.
AEG, which had initially sought to collect on the $17.5 million policy after Jackson’s death canceled the tour, dropped a claim against Lloyds amid revelations in leaked emails that show AEG executives were concerned about his stability ahead of his planned London comeback tour.
Insurers routinely send doctors to do medical exams — and occasionally hire investigators for background checks– before placing multi-million dollar policies for the stars.
After the Jackson trial, the reams of information they need will skyrocket, said Adam Steck, CEO of SPI Entertainment, who recently brokered a deal for an 18-show run by rocker Meatloaf at Planet Hollywood in Vegas, starting September 26.
“We’re in a high risk business, said Steck. “The case will require artists to disclose medical conditions and the producer will need to insure and vet them properly, meaning more red tape. This could affect ticket pricing at the end of the day.”
In its wrongful death suit against AEG, Jackson’s family claimed AEG negligently hired Murray as Jackson’s personal physician and ignored signs Jackson, who died in 2009 at 50 from an overdose of propofol, was in poor health.
AEG Live argued Jackson’s prescription drug and addiction problems predated their deal and that it did not hire Murray or see he was a danger to the star.
Even though Lloyds didn’t pay off on Jackson’s death, legal and insurance experts say artists’ coverage will now carry many more exclusions — specific instances of prior injuries, drug use and now perhaps negligence by staff that won’t be covered – giving promoters and insurance firms an out from paying claims if stars do not fulfill obligations due to negligence by a person on the star’s staff.
“There will be exclusions for personal assistants, doctors, anybody but the performer,” said Jon Pfeiffer, an entertainment attorney in Los Angeles.
“If an assistant or professional does something wrong, the artist will go after the assistant and not AEG.”
Insurers wound up settling with Spears after she sued a group for almost $10 million in 2005, after she was forced to cancel the European leg of a tour due to a knee injury.
Spears and her promoter had bought “contingency insurance” from several companies including Liberty Syndicate Management Ltd, French company AXA’s AXA Corporate Solutions, one of the more common policies that cover abandonment, cancellation or postponement of a concert.
The companies initially refused to pay Spears for losses arising from the canceled shows, claiming she failed to disclose surgery performed on her knee five years earlier.
Spears had passed the insurance company’s required medical exam a year before the tour was to begin.
John Callagy, attorney for Spears in the case, told Reuters it became apparent the insurance companies were aware of her prior knee injuries from earlier insurance applications.
Mary Thompson, president of Las Vegas-based Capstone Brokerage, said she expects Spears probably bought “contingency insurance” for her Planet Hollywood residency but now it includes new stipulations following the pop star’s widely publicized breakdown a few years go.
Tougher drug use monitoring and higher insurance pricing arose after 23-year-old actor River Phoenix died in 1993 of a drug overdose while under contract for two movies.
When he died, two insurance companies paid nearly $5.7 million to the producers of “Dark Blood” and “Interview With the Vampire,” but then sued his estate in a federal court in Florida to get their money back, claiming he violated his contracts by lying when he said he did not do drugs.
The court ruled against the insurers, which then appealed the ruling. An appeals court in Florida then granted the Phoenix estate’s motion to dismiss the insurer’s claims, ruling the actor’s death rendered his performance impossible, an event which was covered by the insurance policy.
“As a result of this case, the insurance companies became more careful about how they priced contracts and covered performers they deemed risky,” said Zev Jacob Eigen, associate professor of Law at Northwestern University School of Law.
“The Jackson case stands to be another cause for recalibration in the industry because it impacts the same questions about scope of coverage and obligation to monitor behaviors of performers,” said Eigen.
Stars themselves may be rushing to their insurance brokers as well. Performers like Spears often buy a “personal policy” to protect their “industry value” in case they can no longer perform. “Famous singers often insure their voices and you can only imagine the body parts that porn stars might be insuring,” said Eigen.
“For a lot of entertainment professionals, this is a significant issue,” said Thompson of Capstone Brokerage. “To protect their value, they may have to be willing to do a monthly drug screen, physical exams, random drug testing.”
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