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I hope they get to discuss the autopsy report - no indications of a terminally ill patient there!  Didn't it conclude he was pretty healthy for a dead guy? (That may have been TMZ's take on it, rather than the coroner's, but I'm sure someone described it as such!) More confusion!

guess he fooled the coroner also   :icon_e_wink:

and if he looked like someone who was terminal then who did we see on that footage cause they didn't look too terminal.

If I remember right, there were two coroner's report. The first one did portray him as being frail and a mess. But then the second one revealed him to be in a healthy state for a 50 year old male.


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Yep, yep, yep Love4Michael! You are so right! :icon_lol:

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Questions about the forum and/or website / Re: Hoaxbook
« on: April 30, 2013, 10:21:05 PM »
I think it needs more than tinkering with! It needs a major overhaul!!!  :icon_lol:

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Here is the video from the news on yesterday.

Lawyers Deliver Opening Statements in Jackson Wrongful Death Suit
The lawyer for the Jackson family accused AEG of ruthless actions that led to the superstar's death Monday. However, AEG countered that Jackson was the author of his own demise. Gordon Tokumatsu reports from downtown LA for the NBC4 News at 5 and 6 p.m. on April 29, 2013.

By Gordon Tokumatsu
4pr 30, 2013


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oh great! more fuel for the hospice patient...

 :over-react-smiley:


i believe its all part of the game. deliberate confusion. what we experienced in the forum with TS now being duplicated in the trial to have ppl scraching their heads, confused and in disagreement.

i mean others say he was in fine form duting TII rehersal.


Are we having fun yet?!   These were my very thoughts!  I guess this is the paramedic that said Michael looked like "a frail old man!"

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Latest Update

Here is a link to a video that aired on the news here .

First Witnesses Testify at the Jackson Wrongful Death Suit
The first witnesses testified in the Michael Jackson wrongful death lawsuit Tuesday. The first responders who rushed to the superstar's Holmby Hills mansion the day he died described what the superstar looked like in his final hours. Gordon Tokumatsu reports from Downtown LA for the NBC4 News at 5 p.m. on April 30, 2013.

By Gordon Tokumatsu | 48 minutes ago


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Notice this!

"He said Jackson appeared to be terminally ill.

"To me, he looked like someone who was at the end stage of a long disease process,"

Reminds me of topics that TS had us bantering back and forth with!

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Here is an update from 12 minutes ago.

Jackson's Private Life on Display in Civil Trial
Moments from the singer's life will be exposed as the case progresses over the next several months, with witnesses expected to testify about secret medical treatments, lavish spending and tender moments spent with his mother and children.

By Anthony McCartney
|  Tuesday, Apr 30, 2013  | Updated 3:15 PM PDT

Jurors in the civil case between Michael Jackson's mother and concert giant AEG Live got another glimpse of the singer's private life on Tuesday through the eyes of a paramedic who described the singer's bedroom and the frantic efforts to revive the King of Pop on the day he died.

Many other private moments from the singer's life will be exposed as the case progresses over the next several months, with witnesses expected to testify about secret medical treatments, lavish spending and tender moments spent with his mother and children.

In the nearly four years since his death, nearly every aspect of Jackson's life has been explored in court proceedings, documentaries, books and news stories.

Still, the negligence case filed by his mother against AEG promises to deliver the most detailed account of the singer's addiction struggles, including testimony from his ex-wife Debbie Rowe about treatments involving the anesthetic propofol dating back to the 1990s.

Jackson died from a propofol overdose in 2009 while preparing for a series of comeback concerts at AEG's O2 Arena in London.

Katherine Jackson contends AEG didn't properly investigate the doctor who later administered the fatal dose. The company denies wrongdoing.
During opening statements, attorneys framed Jackson's prescription drug addiction through the prism of his superstar status.

Attorney Brian Panish, who represents Katherine Jackson, said the drug problems worsened when the pop star was under the stress of live performances.

AEG attorney Marvin S. Putnam countered that Jackson's stardom provided a cover to receive multiple, secret medical treatments, many involving propofol.

At one point in the proceedings, the harsh portrayal of Jackson's struggle with addiction, led one juror to lean forward and stare at the floor for several moments.

Katherine Jackson and two of the superstar's children, Prince and Paris, are potential witnesses whose testimony will likely focus heavily on their grieving and losses.

On Monday, Panish played a song Jackson wrote for his children as a montage of photos played during opening statements. He also read a handwritten note from Jackson that his mother framed and has hanging on her wall.

"The only way you can assess damages, is to know what they had," Panish said before reading the letter and playing "You Are My Life."

Katherine Jackson dabbed her eyes with a tissue. On Tuesday, she left the courtroom while the paramedic described her son's condition on the day he died.

It may be several days before jurors get another look at Jackson's softer side.
The trial will also feature testimony on Jackson's troubled finances, with debts that reached nearly $400 million by the time he died.

AEG contends the debts made him desperate to have a successful concert series.

"The private Michael Jackson was like a lot of American in the 2000s, spending a lot more than he was making," Putnam told the jury after describing the singer's lavish Neverland Ranch, his art collection and other spending.

With the start of testimony on Tuesday, the panel was transported by paramedic Richard Senneff into the singer's bedroom, a place he kept locked and where his propofol treatments were administered out of sight of everyone but Murray.

Senneff, a paramedic and firefighter for nearly 28 years, told the panel about responding to Jackson's bedroom on June 25, 2009, and finding an unusual scene.

He described a Murray's frazzled efforts to revive Jackson.

"He was pale, he was sweaty," the paramedic said of Murray. "He was very busy."

He said Jackson appeared to be terminally ill.

"To me, he looked like someone who was at the end stage of a long disease process," Senneff said, adding that Murray told him that he was treating Jackson for dehydration.

Senneff told the panel he found an IV pole, oxygen tanks and a nightstand with several medicine bottles.

Just as he has previously testified in Murray's criminal trial, the paramedic told the panel that Murray never mentioned propofol, the hospital-grade anesthetic that killed the singer.

Jackson's blue hands, feet and lips, and the singer's dry eyes all signaled to Senneff that the singer was dead and hadn't been breathing for a long time.

Onlookers and paparazzi were already gathering at Jackson's gate and someone pressed a camera to the ambulance window to get pictures of the stricken star.

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Notice that when the writer writes about the day's proceeding it is done in the past tense, such as "during the proceedings that resumed Tuesday."  When I last checked, today is still Tuesday in the US! Why not say "during the proceedings that resumed today"?


Yes, smells scripted and spoon feed to the reporters if you ask me!

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Here is another update from just over an hour ago.

Civil Trial Depicts Two Sides of Michael Jackson
"The truth is, Michael Jackson fooled everyone," defense attorney Marvin S. Putnam told jurors. "He made sure that no one — nobody — knew his deepest, darkest secrets."
By Anthony McCartney

|  Tuesday, Apr 30, 2013  | Updated 12:15 PM PDT

Two sides of Michael Jackson have emerged during the start of a trial involving a lawsuit over his death.

The superstar was repeatedly called an addict by lawyers on both sides of the lawsuit filed by Jackson's mother against concert giant AEG Live.

His financial struggles also were put on display during the proceedings that resumed Tuesday.

"The truth is, Michael Jackson fooled everyone," defense attorney Marvin S. Putnam told jurors. "He made sure that no one — nobody — knew his deepest, darkest secrets."

Jackson's words and music also rang through the courtroom as a lawyer for plaintiff Katherine Jackson tried to show jurors his loving relationship with her and his children.

Jackson's praise for his mother brought tears to her eyes as she sat in court.
While Jackson's song, "You Are My Life," filled the courtroom, jurors watched footage of a Christmas morning when he gave his children a dog.

Jackson died in June 2009 from an overdose of the powerful anesthetic propofol. A year later his mother filed the negligence lawsuit against AEG, claiming the company failed to properly investigate a doctor who was giving propofol to him. The former physician, Conrad Murray, was convicted of involuntary manslaughter and remains jailed.

AEG has denied any wrongdoing.

Paramedic Richard Senneff — one of the first people to respond to Jackson's home on the day he died — was the trial's first witness.

As he did at Murray's trial, he described Jackson's bedroom and the frantic moments spent trying to revive him.

In opening statements, attorneys read emails describing the singer as unhealthy and in need of serious intervention.

A defense attorney for AEG Live at one point flashed a slide listing 45 medical professionals. He said Jackson had consulted with each of them over the years and requested doses of propofol from some.

Murray, AEG and Michael Jackson were part of an intricate puzzle that plaintiff's lawyer Brian Panish said he intended to piece together for the jury in the coming weeks.

He told the panel that AEG, motivated by its desire to overtake a competitor, created a conflicted situation for Murray in which he chose a huge payday over properly caring for Jackson.

The company also ignored Murray's troubled finances and Jackson's string of health problems as he prepared for a series of comeback concerts titled "This Is It," Panish said.

"They didn't care who got lost in the wash," Panish told the jury. He repeated the adage, "the show must go on," to describe AEG's actions toward both Jackson and Murray.

Defense attorney Putnam countered that the company couldn't have known Jackson was using propofol or the depth of his addiction. He said Jackson hid the drug abuse from his family, and medical professionals were barred from telling anyone about it due to doctor-patient confidentiality.

Putnam told the panel that it was Jackson who wanted Murray's treatments, and the singer ultimately was responsible for his own death.

"This case is about personal choices," Putnam said. "Also, it was about his personal responsibility. There's no question that Michael Jackson's death was a terrible tragedy. I believe the evidence will show it was not a tragedy of AEG Live's making."

Panish, however, urged the jury of six men and six women to reject placing blame on Jackson.

"Michael paid the ultimate price. He died," Panish said. "Michael has taken responsibility."

During his opening remarks, Panish displayed several emails between AEG executives discussing Jackson's health.

One was sent by AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips before Jackson's news conference announcing his "This Is It" shows. The message to Tim Leiweke, former CEO of AEG'S parent company, stated that Jackson was drunk and refusing to address fans.

"This is the scariest thing I have ever seen," Phillips wrote to Leiweke. "He is an emotionally paralyzed mess riddled with self-loathing and doubt now that it's show time. He's scared to death."

The trial will feature testimony from Debbie Rowe, who was married to Jackson and who Putnam said witnessed the entertainer receiving propofol treatments in the 1990s.

"Ms. Rowe knew this was incredibly dangerous," Putnam said, and she insisted on staying by Jackson's side while he was under the effects of the anesthetic.

Panish told jurors it would be up to them to decide any possible damage award to Jackson's mother and children. If Jackson had lived, he could have earned at least $1.5 billion, the lawyer said.

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AEG ~ Sony / Re: Useful links for info on AEG trial
« on: April 30, 2013, 12:56:18 PM »
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Panish: there was no risk to AEG, since the production (of the tour) would be secured by MJ's assets, which included the Sony catalog
Exhibit B!


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Hi all!  Here is an update from almost 3 hours ago. It doesn't contain anythinig new!

Opening Arguments Begin in Michael Jackson Death Trial
Jackson's family is alleging that concert promoter AEG Live is to blame for the singer's death.

By Brandon Lowrey and Gordon Tokumatsu
| Tuesday, Apr 30, 2013  | Updated 8:25 AM PTD

Opening arguments in a high-stakes legal battle over Michael Jackson's death began Monday, with Jackson's mother blaming a concert promoter for hiring the doctor convicted in causing the pop superstar's death.

Katherine Jackson, 82, claimed that the major concert company AEG Live should have done a better job vetting Conrad Murray, a former doctor convicted of giving Michael Jackson a powerful anesthetic that killed him in 2009.

Meanwhile, AEG Live contended that Jackson chose Murray as his personal physician.

The court case was expected to last at least three months and include testimony from a star-studded cast of witnesses that includes legendary singers Prince and Diana Ross, along with several Jackson family members and other celebrities.

On Monday, media swarmed the outside of the Stanley Mosk Courthouse in downtown Los Angeles as Jackson family members entered the building. The judge in the case banned cameras from the courtroom.

Michael Jackson died at 50 of a prescription in June 2009 as he prepared to begin his "This Is It" comeback concerts in London with AEG Live. His body was found in a Holmby Hills mansion.

In 2011, Murray was convicted of involuntary manslaughter and sentenced to four years in jail.

Thomas Mesereau, an attorney who successfully defended Michael Jackson in a 2005 child molestation trial, said a series of emails between AEG Live officials and Murray are a critical piece of evidence.

"If you look at those emails where they acknowledge they're paying his doctor, they acknowledge that he'd better perform even if he's not well, I think the defense has a real uphill battle," Mesereau told reporters. "I think that sympathy is going to be with Katherine and Michael's three children."

Katherine Jackson’s attorneys said reports that the lawsuit seeks $40 billion are highly exaggerated, telling the jury that the real figure is closer to $1.5 billion based on what Jackson could have earned, had he lived, and the personal loss to his family.

An attorney for AEG told jurors, "This case is about the choices we make and the responsibilities that go with them" -- a statement that foreshadowed a defense built, in part, around the dangerous anesthetic that ultimately killed Jackson.

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Here is the latest update about 1 1/2 hours ago.

Lawyer Details Jackson's Struggle With Drugs
AEG's attorney Marvin S. Putnam said the singer's guarded private life meant the company was unaware that he was using the powerful anesthetic propofol.
By Anthony McCartney
|  Monday, Apr 29, 2013  |  Updated 5:14 PM PDT

Michael Jackson's struggle against drug addiction was put on display Monday during opening statements at his mother's wrongful death case against concert giant AEG Live.

Competing portraits of Jackson emerged during the first hours of the trial, with Katherine Jackson's attorney acknowledging the pop star's drug problems while also trying to show he was a caring son and father.

AEG's attorney Marvin S. Putnam, however, said the singer's guarded private life meant the company was unaware that he was using the powerful anesthetic propofol.

"The truth is, Michael Jackson fooled everyone," Putnam said. "He made sure that no one, nobody, knew his deepest darkest secrets."

A jury of six men and six women will determine whether AEG should pay Jackson's mother and three children after his 2009 death from an overdose of propofol. Millions and possibly billions of dollars in damages are at stake in the case that opened with private photos and video clips of Jackson dancing.
Katherine Jackson's attorney Brian Panish also played a song that Jackson wrote for his three children, and a note the singer had written for his mother that brought tears to her eyes as she sat in court.

Katherine Jackson sued AEG Live in September 2010, claiming it failed to properly investigate physician Conrad Murray before allowing him to serve as Jackson's doctor as he prepared for his "This Is It" shows. She is also suing on behalf of her son's three children — Prince, Paris and Blanket.
AEG denies it hired Murray, and its attorneys have said they could not have foreseen the circumstances that led to Jackson's death at age 50.
Panish told jurors that AEG executives ignored warning signs about Jackson's health and were motivated to push the singer and his doctor to improve their own financial fortunes.

"We're not looking for any sympathy," Panish said. "We're looking for truth and justice."

With Jackson's mother, brother Randy and sister Rebbie seated in the front row of the courtroom, jurors were shown numerous slides and several scribbled notes.

A couple of jurors nodded when the lawyer referenced Jackson's achievements, including successful concert tours and a Super Bowl performance.

Katherine Jackson dabbed her eyes after Panish read a note that her son wrote to her, detailing his feelings about her. "All my success has been based on the fact that I wanted to make my mother proud," the singer's note to his mother said, "to win her smile of approval."

The personal touches came after Panish spent the first half of his presentation detailing Jackson's struggles with prescription drug abuse throughout the last half of his life.

He also showed jurors numerous emails sent between AEG executives concerning Jackson's health and their concerns that he wouldn't be able to perform 50 planned concerts in London.

Putnam recounted the chaotic days following Jackson's death as investigators and the public tried to figure out how the singer died unexpectedly. He urged jurors to remember that propofol killed Jackson.

"One thing became very, very clear," Putnam said. "While the world may not have heard of propofol, Mr. Jackson certainly had. The evidence is going to show you that he had been using that drug for years and years."

Putnam told jurors that AEG executives were in the dark about Jackson's propofol use.

"How could they have known?" the lawyer asked.

Panish, however, said AEG saw the Jackson shows as a way to make a lot of money and better compete with Live Nation. AEG was so concerned with getting Jackson to perform, "They didn't care who got lost in the wash," Panish said.

He displayed a March 2009 email sent before a press conference featuring Jackson, in which AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips wrote to Tim Leiweke, the former CEO of AEG'S parent company, that Jackson was drunk and refusing to address fans.

"This is the scariest thing I have ever seen," Phillips wrote Leiweke. "He is an emotionally paralyzed mess riddled with self-loathing and doubt now that it's show time. He's scared to death."

Panish said Jackson's behavior was just one of several warning signs the company ignored before the death.

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AEG ~ Sony / Re: Useful links for info on AEG trial
« on: April 29, 2013, 06:25:59 PM »
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I find it interesting though, that when I go to this site that is ABC’s Recent "court case" Stories, Video and Galleries there is nothing there about the AEG case. The last story they have posted is dated 4/17/13.

Of course there will be no videos, but their tag line says “ABC’s Recent "court case" Stories...” They have had time to put a story up by now. But I will give them the benefit of the doubt for now.  If no story gets posted on this site, then we can again, as with the Murray case, discuss whether this is a real court case!


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They say the trial will last 90 trial days. 90 trial days including today is August 30th. And who just happens to have a birthday the day before? Just something that makes you go hummmmm!

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