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Twitter ~ Verified Accounts / @RandyJackson8
« on: September 23, 2010, 08:38:01 PM »
:o Well, now I realize that the cryptic messages of Randy and Janet, on Twitter, and Rebbie on TV were about the process of Katherine, against AEG, which was yet to go to court. :roll:

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Other Odd Things / Re: If AEG are so bad why is usher working with them
« on: September 23, 2010, 07:27:18 PM »
Apparently, the way things happened in the last months of his life is not indicated that there was a friendship or concerns with MJ (person), but it was a priority for financial gain or other purposes (which I think is more likely) and to achieve this goal they used physical weakness, emotional and financial difficulties that Michael was passing at that moment.   :( :? :roll:  :?:

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Other Odd Things / Re: THE REAL MICHAEL DIED IN THE PEPSI ACCIDENT!!!!
« on: September 23, 2010, 06:07:57 PM »
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OMG guys this is by fat the best examination of this subject Ive ever read.

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I mean the white Michael wasnt even the same height- as shown by comparison pictures of him standing next to  the same people as a black man and as the white MJ. This makes me wicked sad!!! We have been DUPED that white guy wasnt MICHAEL AT ALLL!!! WTF where is the real sweet little MJ? He has been dead. Pepsi would have gone out of business if it leaked Mj died. The whole thing is a coverup of EPIC proportions!!!

:shock: My God, what happens to many of us, when we go looking for or when we pay attention to those things that come to us? Are we sick because yes, we need a minimum of discernment and good sense? :roll:  :roll:

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Other Odd Things / Re: Mr Michael Jackson NOT mr. nice guy?
« on: September 22, 2010, 07:54:19 AM »
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Well, I do not see here as a process of a "game", but as a process of "research" to discover, or at least get closer to the truth about what happened with MJ, though the site / forum is premised the farce.:?  This process of "research" involves the sharing of ideas and discoveries, questions and opinions. But as the hoax is just one possibility among others (suicide, homicide ,..)... they can not or should not be discarded simply. If our actions or reactions are based only on the possibility of fraud, we will keep going in circles, literally.

Hows that then? We shouldn't disregard debunked theories in the course of our research? Then why are we researching? What's the point?

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I think the line TIAI / TS is useful for (most) of us as a hope, but at the same time, their arguments are flawed, because if there is some indication that reinforces the idea that MJ really died almost immediately that the hope is canceled, as has been happening. Well, these arguments are framed by a science (?) - Numerology, based on supposed "clues", tips, coincidences, symbolism and other events or situations in life and work of MJ and also attitudes and behaviors of family, media and other means, directly or indirectly, are or have been involved. Then, the TS sends us to choose the alternatives that are supposedly more likely to have been a hoax, but I think most of us would feel safer if also aware of the choices and beliefs of the person TS ... not only give us the task or the challenge of finding the answer yourself. :roll: :?:

 :?:  :?:  :?:  I didn't understand a word you said.

We are so determined to prove that MJ is alive that anyone who discusses or presents information against our beliefs is attacked. We should be able to intelligently and politely discuss all motives whether they are uncomfortable to us or not.

It seems as though we've become a little too dependent on TS feeding us information (and TMZ), not really being told directly what the true motives and beliefs are".

This is my shortened interpretation and I agree.

Thanks, voiceforthesilent, that's what I meant.

It's Her - thank you for your interpretation of the AR. Do you have experience in the field?

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Other Odd Things / Re: Mr Michael Jackson NOT mr. nice guy?
« on: September 22, 2010, 06:56:56 AM »
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Ok. I am going to post a couple of thoughts over on the Official Autopsy Thread,  because I see that I never did share what debunks the PDF I read, for ME. But I can quickly tell you here, what it is that makes it bogus. It may save you some time investigating, needlessly...

And, I  don't need to debunk EVERYthing to discredit ALL of it. It only takes one fly(knowing what :roll:  :oops:  they have  :? on their feets :shock: ) in my drink to throw the entire drink out.  :o  :mrgreen:

1] :o  In the year 2009, I am confident that NO government agency uses a typewriter  :lol: to produce autopsy forms.

2] :o  Equally convinced that not even a COUNTY government agency would still be using official forms which were last revised in 1995. :lol:

3] :o  The amount of pages (over 50) is suspect. Most ARs are no more than 6 pages---including Tox report and brain pathology report. The individual is dead--they list a couple of main contributing illnesses or injuries, and it really doesn't matter that they had evidences of 40 other illnesses or diseases.:?

4] :o On that subject, just ONE lung disease would have prevented MJ from raising three young children, performing grueling rehearsals for a concert tour, or making the movie, TII, which we all investigated---unless someone doesn't think the star of TII was MJ.  :? A hoaxed death requires a hoaxed report to give people something to do. MOST  :mrgreen:   of the given hoax clues are  ;)  ;) obvious OVERKILL.  8-)  8-)

FIFTY pages of an AR is classic :D  :lol:  :lol:  :P  :P  :P  :P  MJ OVERKILL. As MJ would say, "Is THAT scary for ya, Baby :?: " :P  :P  :lol:

5] :o There is information in the autopsy report which is NOT autopsy (findings from a dead body)report, and, at times,  :lol:  reads more like all of these, mixed in: a legal brief, a police report, a coroner's report, and specialist consults which are done on living hospital guests, UPSTAIRS---not in the morgue. Nothing which does not pertain to the dissected body ever appears in, or under the heading, "AR". NOTHING about what was found at the scene, or the condition of the scene would ever be in the AUTOPSY report :!:   :roll:

6] :o ALL catheters, tubes, pic lines, appliances, eyeglasses, hearing aids, dressings, etc., etc., are always removed prior to the trip to the morgue or mortuary. According to the story, MJ's body was "worked on" at the hospital, and proably intubated at one point, while they tried all chemical things to reverse the guy's problems. (Even after a routine surgery which goes amok,  :arrow: someone is assigned the task of removing all possible evidence of hospital :x  liability; drainage hoses, breathing tubes, introvenous lines and even fresh--clean-- catheters.) So, the mere mention of finding these things in a body which had been treated at the hospital makes this report a lie. :roll:

7] I'll combine these two things, for the sake of time: there was NO mention at all of any plastic surgeries or any injuries to his nose---which he reportedly BROKE prior to his very first nose job, and NO mention of --I can't remember---either a broken leg or broken foot, he experienced in the late 90s, I believe (not certain of the year, just certain of the broken bones).

There is more, but...this is QUITE enough, to establish that something is very wrong about this report, and that it is not even from this decade, let alone, in particular, our dear 50 year old Michael Jackson, K.O.P... :D

You know what? I wanna thank you because you didn't debunk the report to me at all, but you did help me understand how come that some folks are so sure about things.

It's about how deep we look into things, about what things we choose to "look too much into" and what "too little", as if they weren't here.

Look at this: it's very easy, plausible and legal to get a dead body or that a lot of people are in on the hoax, but too weird and crazy that an Autopsy Report has 50 pages, or that has been typed up in a typewriter. Know what I mean?

I hope it doesn't sound sarcastic, because it's no at all. Thanks a lot!

No, not at all. You are welcome.  It doesn't matter if I convinced you or not. I am convinced, and that's why I didn't post it MONTHs ago. I looked into this for my self, so that I could move on to something relevant, and simply forgot about sharing it. It wasn't to cram it in anyone's faces as the be all, end all of Truth.

 There are "Facts" and then, there is the Truth. We all are investigating things presented as Fact, in order to get to the Truth.

There are MANY liars on earth.  And, too, there are people who will not believe their own eyes when the Truth is presented, speaking the truth out of his own mouth. I mean, when MJ does reappear, even if he reappears looking EXACTLY as he did when he left us (which I seriously doubt----) there WILL be people who just will  :roll: not be able to bring themselves to see it.  

:arrow: After all, he and his lawyers and the court, couldn't STILL convince SOME that he was NOT GUILTY of child molestation and freakdom!!!  :x  :evil:  :roll:

So, certainly he will be JUST as unable to convince SOME folk that he NEVER died.  


Just the way it is. :(

And this is very dangerous for him, as there is always SOME loser who can't take being duped and needs to see personally, his blood running out, to believe. It may come to be that he will decide that this is NOT worth the risk, and simply NEVER tell the world he did not die. But some of us, here,  KNOW, and once you know, nothing else matters. It would actually be more of a mysterious historical conundrum, to leave most of the world GUESSING FOREVER :lol:  :P  :P , & never be certain, sort of like the Oak Island Mystery.... :lol:

Oh, please do not say it! :cry:  :cry:

{Living and staying alive is way better, Mikey. ;)  I wouldn't blame you.}

Its her,

I have a feeling that you were at some point, a little (or a lot) next to Michael, am I right? ;)  If yes, could you tell us a little about this?
:)

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Other Odd Things / Re: Mr Michael Jackson NOT mr. nice guy?
« on: September 22, 2010, 05:33:44 AM »
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Well, I do not see here as a process of a "game", but as a process of "research" to discover, or at least get closer to the truth about what happened with MJ, though the site / forum is premised the farce.:?  This process of "research" involves the sharing of ideas and discoveries, questions and opinions. But as the hoax is just one possibility among others (suicide, homicide ,..)... they can not or should not be discarded simply. If our actions or reactions are based only on the possibility of fraud, we will keep going in circles, literally.

Hows that then? We shouldn't disregard debunked theories in the course of our research? Then why are we researching? What's the point?

We should not simply ignore "evidence" or information related to other possibilities (suicide, homicide ,...) because they could be crucial, independently teoira.

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I think the line TIAI / TS is useful for (most) of us as a hope, but at the same time, their arguments are flawed, because if there is some indication that reinforces the idea that MJ really died almost immediately that the hope is canceled, as has been happening. Well, these arguments are framed by a science (?) - Numerology, based on supposed "clues", tips, coincidences, symbolism and other events or situations in life and work of MJ and also attitudes and behaviors of family, media and other means, directly or indirectly, are or have been involved. Then, the TS sends us to choose the alternatives that are supposedly more likely to have been a hoax, but I think most of us would feel safer if also aware of the choices and beliefs of the person TS ... not only give us the task or the challenge of finding the answer yourself. :roll: :?:

 :?:  :?:  :?:  I didn't understand a word you said.

I think many of us still have hopes for the hoax at the expense of estudoss TIAI / TS. IMO, his arguments are interesting but not entirely confiávies, because whenever something new happens in that it reinforces the idea that Michael is dead, our hope disappears almost immediately. The next step is the withdrawal of many of us, as has been happening. Well, finally, I think the TS sends us many questions, I honestly can not answer ... I think we should get the answers according to what he thinks, believes and trusts, instead of sending us the questions complex. It would be very good to us this way.

Ok, then please disregard everything I said ... sorry my english ... bye.

I don't want to disregard it, I want to understand it. That's why I posted. Try again?

I apologize if my English failed again.

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Other Odd Things / Re: Mr Michael Jackson NOT mr. nice guy?
« on: September 22, 2010, 01:25:22 AM »
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Well, I do not see here as a process of a "game", but as a process of "research" to discover, or at least get closer to the truth about what happened with MJ, though the site / forum is premised the farce.:?  This process of "research" involves the sharing of ideas and discoveries, questions and opinions. But as the hoax is just one possibility among others (suicide, homicide ,..)... they can not or should not be discarded simply. If our actions or reactions are based only on the possibility of fraud, we will keep going in circles, literally.

Hows that then? We shouldn't disregard debunked theories in the course of our research? Then why are we researching? What's the point?

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I think the line TIAI / TS is useful for (most) of us as a hope, but at the same time, their arguments are flawed, because if there is some indication that reinforces the idea that MJ really died almost immediately that the hope is canceled, as has been happening. Well, these arguments are framed by a science (?) - Numerology, based on supposed "clues", tips, coincidences, symbolism and other events or situations in life and work of MJ and also attitudes and behaviors of family, media and other means, directly or indirectly, are or have been involved. Then, the TS sends us to choose the alternatives that are supposedly more likely to have been a hoax, but I think most of us would feel safer if also aware of the choices and beliefs of the person TS ... not only give us the task or the challenge of finding the answer yourself. :roll: :?:

 :?:  :?:  :?:  I didn't understand a word you said.

Ok, then please disregard everything I said ... sorry my english ... bye.

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Other Odd Things / Re: Mr Michael Jackson NOT mr. nice guy?
« on: September 21, 2010, 11:45:21 PM »
Quote from: "Im_convincedmjalive"
The GAME of LIFE.

In this game of LIFE and WAR for “our minds”
Nwo VS. HUMANITY … Us! All of us who choose this side to fight on.

 We have a leader in MJ/TS.

Armies have RANKS and classifications.
So does life when it comes to personalities, skills, talents, gifts, abilities.
We CAN NOT ALL be the same no matter how hard one side fights for their opinion to be right.
WE will never ALL be the same as far as personalities goes.

But yes we will ALL be equal when it comes to rights. Civil RIGHTS.

I believe in them and I fight for them. For me and for you.

In Michael’s Army you have Front Line Warriors-

Subcategories-
Snipers
Moles
Spies
Conflict Moderators (Global and Admin)

Support Warriors
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I can't believe the guy/girl has been run off like that,saying hes full of shit, what is this, conform or be cast out?  :roll:
Oh, come on, maybe you should read the thread again if you haven't, the person that said "full of shit" explained and apologized, and it's been shown why COTW is not in on the hoax, regardless of whether he knows MJ or not- by the way, I sure couldn't stand that smug smirking "I type this with a smile of knowing while you baboons grovel in your heap of loony nonsense " attitude he brought with him.. I do agree that some remarks were unnecessarily rude and trying to "run him off", but he obviously had nothing useful to add to the hoax and I intensely doubt that he knew him..


I don't need to read it again to know that if something don't suit certain members, and anyone who might have a little different view, not just this thread, then they are shit on, run out, and run over. I'm beginning to understand how and why Mike was treated the way he was because he had a different view of things, no different here, exact same thing.
Don't start with the MJ remarks- I think you do need to read it again to see that not everyone told this member to get out- everyone has different opinions here and it's up to them and them only to care about however many people disagree rudely and loudly or even tell them to get out, because there's no law here restricting what can be said. The powers that be have always been out to get MJ and purposefully twisted what he said and did in the public's eye- it is not that way here, even if some people are overly rude.


Where in my post does it say EVERYONE? And what MJ remark exactly?
The way you're you're comparing the way MJ's been treated in the past to the few posts "running" that CATW "out" without saying why they disagree. And the way you said "conform or be cast out" in your first post, you make it sound like everyone here is a drone that thinks one thing- heck, we have theories saying he's disguised as another man on national television or a woman at his own funeral, been castrated, died in the '80s and replaced with a Caucasian man, used a posse of guys with wigs and surgeries and voice-changers or whatever to be his copies- going around saying that you know him and you know he's dead without backing it up and just running away when Souza was trying to discuss it with him (and proved herself well, might I add) is a different story..



And what backing do you have that he is alive? How do you know? Difinativly? And the person took off because he was being bullied, hell, I;d want to get away too if I were him, in the meantime I think this person could have givin us some insight into who MJ really was/is,dead or alive. And I don't think its fair that a few made that dicission for the rest who wanted to get to know him better.
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Ok. I am going to post a couple of thoughts over on the Official Autopsy Thread,  because I see that I never did share what debunks the PDF I read, for ME. But I can quickly tell you here, what it is that makes it bogus. It may save you some time investigating, needlessly...

And, I  don't need to debunk EVERYthing to discredit ALL of it. It only takes one fly(knowing what :roll:  :oops:  they have  :? on their feets :shock: ) in my drink to throw the entire drink out.  :o  :mrgreen:


thank you so much for this reminder! you explained it so well it really lifted my spirits.
:D You are very welcome. Happy Hoax Investigating. ;)  

Family and friends back home
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I have been reading  anything that callofthewild has posted since they joined in July. I think he's male and obviously well read and eloquent in speech. . For me, this thread's drama has been rivitting and has had me glued to the screen. Every ARG needs a little manipulation at times or we would never get to see  and experience all the wonderfully colourful responses such a situation exposes us to. Are you watching Mike? It's game time. But I do believe we children should play nice.

I think we should play nice too. Don't get me wrong because I love the color each poster has provided but I think we've been like bullies on the school ground.

I have to wonder why this callofthewild needs to identify him/herself? Would you believe him/her more if he/she said he/she was Jermaine or LMP? Would you treat this person differently? If you said yes, then shame on you because we should treat everyone the same. My thought is that no amount of convincing would sway your immediate judgment of whether this person is legit or not.

Also, I do believe this person found this site by accident. I did. And wanting to post a comment is what got me to sign up. This is the first forum I've ever participated in and probably the last. It's not my thing. I never intended to spend almost every day for over a year on this forum but I have. It drew me in and I think that is what happened to callofthewild. How unfortunate that we may not ever know who this person really is.

Finally - the best way to find out if someone is legit is the test of time. Let a person talk and if that person is legit what they say will come through solid. If they aren't legit their words will start to show cracks in the foundation of their stories. Never do we need to call a person a liar. The liar will be found out by their speech all on their own. Please, let's learn a little patience and treat every guest as though they are family instead of like the pack of hungry vultures out to eat their young. Thank you for listening. You are valued and appreciated.

I, like you, found this site by accident, had never been on another forum. What I really enjoy about it is getting to know all the personalities, all the crazy topcs are so entertaining, the dramas are so emotional, and it's anonomous so I can be honest and share thoughts and ideas without fear. The first time someone calls you for something you write, you either defend yourself or apologize depending on your personality. You know you take your chances when you post provocative or challenging statements.  COTW is smart and seems like a feisty person, so I think he/she will be back, because he seems to enjoy a good fight but I would not say debate, because he avoids giving proofs.

I agree that time will show cracks and flaws or gems of truth, but one thing that could happen if no one is encouraged to contest someone like COTW, there are so many questioning and doubting people who right away were being swayed to thinking that yes this confirms that Michael is dead. Maybe we do need those who are the defense on this team, and those who are the offense. When TS alluded to the fact that when MJ bams that there will be a flood coming here, will we be ready, perhaps posters like COTW are good training for us. We need to be kind but firm, and sometimes a spade has to be called a spade. When you think of us being MJ's army of love, an army has all different positions. Every person here is important, even the ones who appear too bold.

On the video clips of MJ displaying NOT mr. nice guy-- we don't love him for only sweetness, but for his anger at injustice, putting dishonest or hurtful people in their place, having a good sense of humor about people and situations, being a man of authority who corrects gently but firmly those working under him. I totally respect Michael as a person, for how he handles the situations thrown at him, and yet he's handled it magnificently with dignity and love.  I still have seen nothing that makes him less in my eyes, nothing purely selfishly disregarding the welfare of others.  I'm glad there's a thread discussing this important idea.

It's her, you have such a pleasant way of expressing yourself, but also very knowledgable. The points about the AR were good and very helpful!

Fallen Comrades
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I can't believe the guy/girl has been run off like that,saying hes full of shit, what is this, conform or be cast out?  :roll:
Oh, come on, maybe you should read the thread again if you haven't, the person that said "full of shit" explained and apologized, and it's been shown why COTW is not in on the hoax, regardless of whether he knows MJ or not- by the way, I sure couldn't stand that smug smirking "I type this with a smile of knowing while you baboons grovel in your heap of loony nonsense " attitude he brought with him.. I do agree that some remarks were unnecessarily rude and trying to "run him off", but he obviously had nothing useful to add to the hoax and I intensely doubt that he knew him..


I don't need to read it again to know that if something don't suit certain members, and anyone who might have a little different view, not just this thread, then they are shit on, run out, and run over. I'm beginning to understand how and why Mike was treated the way he was because he had a different view of things, no different here, exact same thing.

 :( My heart is in tatters and I do not feel free to share my doubts, fears, opinions, because I'm not sure of anything yet ... So I feel displaced, lost, no proper place .. :(

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:( My heart is in tatters and I do not feel free to share my doubts, fears, opinions, because I'm not sure of anything yet ... So I feel displaced, lost, no proper place .. :(

I understand how you feel.


Those who are constantly conflicted on whether Michael is ALIVE or dead.

In a war you need Strong Front Line Warriors who will play the role of bad girl.
Blame it on Mame if the means justify the end result.
By any means necessary is what this has come to.

This is a very serious thing here. It is no longer a funny all the time game.
Real issues are being discussed and conflict resolution is happening every day.

This Army is strategizing and figuring out how to finally  just love someone else because they are human.

None of us knows what the other person really looks like unless your like me and display your real pic...lol
And  I have divulged so much personal info here over TIME (the deciding factor, who had longevity and what has been said) that really if you read my posts you would know where I am coming from when I sniper people like Callofthewild.

My background check here on the forum would let you know that you all have become my new adopted family.
I am adopted in real life.
And here since you all are my brothers and sisters,  as the type of person I am I want to protect.

It doesn’t take me long to access a scene and come to a conclusion. I have been conditioned to think quickly and that’s where my skills come in at here. I have been paying attention to Callofthewild from the moment they signed up. I have read all their words and they finally just said not enoughfor them to be convincing. Hence the full of shit remark.

Someone had to pull their card, call their bluff, someone had to do the dirty work.

Don’t become so timid that the enemy tricks you.
Rely on your brothers and sisters to help you when they see you perhaps stumbling.

Those words Callofthewild typed are words I can type and you can type.
It was the reader on the other end who gave those words meaning.
Those words were causing confusion.

My  family was being treated like lemmings.

Don’t become a lemming and get lead off a cliff.
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This is tame compared to what’s in reality happening to our men and women in combat.

They are suffering for us and for what exactly? A lie. 9/11... Our families are dieing and our rights are being stripped from us everyday.

Sorry but I don’t have a whole lot of  time to think and ponder on words that are deceptive and destructive.

Those words are meant to mislead and test.

We can’t all be NICE all the time and we can’t all be Bitchy all the time.
There has to be BALANCE.

Everything is being done in L.O.V.E

Well, I do not see here as a process of a "game", but as a process of "research" to discover, or at least get closer to the truth about what happened with MJ, though the site / forum is premised the farce.:? This process of "research" involves the sharing of ideas and discoveries, questions and opinions. But as the hoax is just one possibility among others (suicide, homicide ,..)... they can not or should not be discarded simply. If our actions or reactions are based only on the possibility of fraud, we will keep going in circles, literally. I think the line TIAI / TS is useful for (most) of us as a hope, but at the same time, their arguments are flawed, because if there is some indication that reinforces the idea that MJ really died almost immediately that the hope is canceled, as has been happening. Well, these arguments are framed by a science (?) - Numerology, based on supposed "clues", tips, coincidences, symbolism and other events or situations in life and work of MJ and also attitudes and behaviors of family, media and other means, directly or indirectly, are or have been involved. Then, the TS sends us to choose the alternatives that are supposedly more likely to have been a hoax, but I think most of us would feel safer if also aware of the choices and beliefs of the person TS ... not only give us the task or the challenge of finding the answer yourself. :roll:  :?:

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Other Odd Things / Re: Mr Michael Jackson NOT mr. nice guy?
« on: September 21, 2010, 02:41:54 AM »
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Quote from: "Jude"
I can't believe the guy/girl has been run off like that,saying hes full of shit, what is this, conform or be cast out?  :roll:
Oh, come on, maybe you should read the thread again if you haven't, the person that said "full of shit" explained and apologized, and it's been shown why COTW is not in on the hoax, regardless of whether he knows MJ or not- by the way, I sure couldn't stand that smug smirking "I type this with a smile of knowing while you baboons grovel in your heap of loony nonsense " attitude he brought with him.. I do agree that some remarks were unnecessarily rude and trying to "run him off", but he obviously had nothing useful to add to the hoax and I intensely doubt that he knew him..


I don't need to read it again to know that if something don't suit certain members, and anyone who might have a little different view, not just this thread, then they are shit on, run out, and run over. I'm beginning to understand how and why Mike was treated the way he was because he had a different view of things, no different here, exact same thing.

 :( My heart is in tatters and I do not feel free to share my doubts, fears, opinions, because I'm not sure of anything yet ... So I feel displaced, lost, no proper place .. :(

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Looking coldly, it may be that AEG would make Michael incapable of achievement, linking him to drugs (and thus take advantage of its properties - the catalog, mostly). Maybe that's what Peter Lopez meant when he said: "It was not to happen this way" (or something along those lines). MJ should end up in hospital due to an overdose, but something "wrong" and accidentally killed her? It seems there is a deception or concealment of any kind. :?  :roll:  :?:  I do not know what to think right about one thing or another ... but I know I want to know the truth, whatever.

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TMZ Articles / Re: Katherine Jackson Sues AEG Over Michael's Death
« on: September 20, 2010, 02:17:16 PM »
Looking coldly, it may be that AEG would make Michael incapable of achievement, linking him to drugs (and thus take advantage of its properties - the catalog, mostly). Maybe that's what Peter Lopez meant when he said: "It was not to happen this way" (or something along those lines). MJ should end up in hospital due to an overdose, but something "wrong" and accidentally killed her?  :?  :roll:  :?: It seems there is a deception or concealment of any kind. I do not know what to think right about one thing or another ... but I know I want to know the truth, whatever.

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My heart is torn, I'm sorry .. :cry:

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Other Odd Things / Re: Mr Michael Jackson NOT mr. nice guy?
« on: September 20, 2010, 02:23:27 AM »
I must say that I feel uncomfortable and embarrassed on behalf of all of us about the events surrounding the person with the nick callofthewild. :(  :oops:  I did not notice any time that this person was rude or disrespectful. Instead, she was educated, sensitive and readily answered all questions. Your comments (before all the questions) were in defense of Michael, about the rumors of an anonymous post on TMZ (like many of us who defend MJ, too). In his answers to our questions she was just assertive / firm in their beliefs, without calling attention to themselves, or to boast of his alleged friendship with MJ. Well, now I have this thought: "If we can not trust anonymous people behind a computer, within the larger global network, how can we believe in TS, for example?" As for the person behind the nick callofthewild could be a member of the Jackson family, perhaps? Anything is possible, never imagining it could be.  :roll:  :?: So I think we should be very careful in how to treat people, even "anonymous" because they may simply be trying to help but we simply dispense! I can also understand that people have the right to refuse to open your identity on the global network, we do not know the risks they may face. Please do not attack me for this, I am human, have feelings. :)

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Other Odd Things / Re: Mr Michael Jackson NOT mr. nice guy?
« on: September 19, 2010, 07:14:30 PM »
Quote from: "mjwr"
1. They put poison in his foundation that distroyed his pigment.
Theres a theory about that, that the industry didn't want the biggest pop star of history to be a "BLACK" symbol, instead they wanted him to be a "WHITE" symbol. (I am no racist, it's a theory which is a great possibly imho.)
2. He really has vitiligo and for some reason he never had the brown parts around the eyes that other vitiligo patients have or he used theatrical make-up to cover it up (this we should see on pictures, because that make-up is really thick).
It's the easiest way because Michael said that his fathers family side had vitiligo and made him lose patches on his skin.
3. This poster is right and he did have an illness that made him think being black made him ugly.
I don't believe Michael "has" an ilness that made him think being black is ugly after his interview with Opera in (I think) 1993. He stated that he was proud of being an Afro-American which I believe him truely in.


Quote from: "~Souza~"
Anyway, I think there is a lot we don't know about the man.
Ohhhhhhhh yeaaaaaaaaaah, for sure.

OMG, I think it makes no sense and is beyond absurd ... :shock:  :roll:  It was the beginning of "Thriller" in 1983, when Michael was a pioneer in breaking down racial barriers against the inclusion of black artists to the tune of "white", one of which was to include the video for "Billie Jean" at the MTV channel and "Full Time" ... :D  Not to mention that all girls / women of all colors were all in love with MJ - the concept of man in his physical beauty and sensuality (and boys / men to imitate him in their costumes, hair, mannerisms, ...). 8-)  Michael was considered a sex symbol since that time.  :D Thus, racial prejudice was and is only in the minds of some idiots, whether in music or black person. I also think Michael would never change its skin color to suit whims absurd, even in the name of his art, his passion.

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