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Other Odd Things / Re: 4 years on, it's time to accept reality
« on: June 25, 2013, 12:21:46 PM »
"I know I'll be banned imminently"

Dont get my hopes up...

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TMZ Articles / Re: PARIS JACKSON DEEP IN DARK 'CUTTING' WORLD
« on: June 24, 2013, 03:34:26 PM »
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2good:  :bearhug: to you and your sis. I admire you for sharing this. I hope you and your sister will support each other at tough moments.


TMZ' story, don't know whether it's true or not, yet I'm thinking of TMZ' report about Paris hating JB because he wouldn't speak up about teenage girls cutting themselves You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login.
Last April Paris had criticed JB for acting irresponsible to his young fans: "Speaking to the Mail on Sunday newspaper's Event magazine she said: ''Young girls on Twitter were cutting themselves, self-harming to get his attention to get him to stop." This was before her suicide attempt with cutting herself in June. Was Paris bringing the cutting in the news because she recognizes it and feels sorry for the girls because she's also a cutter or isn't she a cutter herself but is very upset and concerned about this cutting that she feels compelled to help those cutting girls, to draw attention to it as a shout out to other teens, parents, schools etc. to take this very seriously and help these kids. I hope that Paris will be doing fine and will take her time. To me she's a hero, not because of her suicide attempt, but because she's speaking up for these girls.


Yeah I was thinking the same thing. It's totally possible that the "cut for Beiber" stuff really resonated with her. The girls that were doing that are close to her age. Doing something this extreme (like her father faking his death) would get people's attention. She has the platform to raise awareness like very few teenagers have. 

That's personally what I hope for. I hate to think that Paris is truly suffering this bad, no matter what the reason.

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TMZ Articles / Re: PARIS JACKSON DEEP IN DARK 'CUTTING' WORLD
« on: June 24, 2013, 12:27:18 PM »
TMZ gave NO indication (other than their word) that that tumblr page belongs to Paris (assuming those pics came from an actual tumblr) So I dont believe that. You can tell me that theres NO WAY AT ALL to prove that that tumblr belonged to Paris. Those pics they posted could have come from a google image search. TMZ didnt think to print screen Paris's "tumblr" to prove that was actually hers?

TMZ must think we're some damn fools to believe something with out the tiniest piece of evidence. Maybe I'm missing something that confirms that that tumblr (if it even exists), and if so PLEASE point it out to me. I dont want to make light of something that may be very serious. Those pictures are so extreme (and very sad because cutting is real, my brother was a cutter in high school) that it almost seems like a farce.

It almost seems like TMZ is trying hard to make us believe Paris is a cutter. She hasnt grieved over her fathers death (well all know why), she hasnt celebrated a birthday since MJ died, yet she was photo'd celebrating her bday at a roller rink with friends and family, she got bullied at school, but she was with Debbie less that a month ago wearing a Buckley sweat shirt. She has no friends, yet she has tons of pics with friends. She's withdrawn yet her make up video that shows some one with a super star personality. Paris has cut before and no one noticed only until about less than a month before her suicide attempt (kinda reminds me of MJ having 6 months to live, etc..) She wears short sleeve/ no sleeves all the time and know one noticed? Friends, school administration, personal assistants , family, sercurity, cooks, no one.. Most people dont have all those people around them all the time.

So idk. Regardless, I hope the best for Paris and the rest of MJs fam. Hopefully Paris will be back and better than ever at the end of the summer

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Btw, I didn't make that photo. A Paris Jackson fan page (I think ParisJacksonForever) on instagram made that pic. So even non believers saw the similarities.

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Loveyoumore, I find that fascinating! Thanks for showing us this.

Now that you mention it, she references several things that seem so innocently said but could hold clues, especially as this video (May 31) is pretty much the last thing she does before her alleged suicide June 5. Sometimes Front can introduce things that seem so innocent but later we clearly see they were clues to future events. Similarly with Paris I believe. At 10:00 Paris says she likes the movie Tangled and watched it 3 times that week or something like that. I really enjoyed Tangled and saw a number of MJ hints in it. It was discussed here; read the whole page. I feel this is a message from MJ, pre Paris’ alleged suicide: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
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I hope this pic posts properly, I'm posting this from my iPhone


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TMZ Articles / PARIS JACKSON DEEP IN DARK 'CUTTING' WORLD
« on: June 24, 2013, 04:20:33 AM »
PARIS JACKSON
DEEP IN DARK 'CUTTING' WORLD


Paris Jackson will be in treatment for months, for a dark depression that is putting her life in serious jeopardy ... TMZ has learned.

We're told Paris' family is scoffing at law enforcement claims that her "suicide attempt" earlier this month was merely a cry for help.  We're told when the bandages on her arm were removed, the damage was "horrifying."  As one source put it, "Paris absolutely tried to kill herself, and it wasn't the first time."

Our sources say Paris is deep into the world of cutting.  We've seen Paris' Tumblr page, and it's filled with pics of death, suicide and cutting.  Several pics show teenagers putting guns in their mouths.  As for cutting, the pics are graphic and very bloody.  In one pic you see a girl with scissors cutting her arm with a caption, "I f**king hate myself."

Another pic shows an arm with writing over the cutting area that reads, "Suicide slice here."

In one posting, there's a piece of paper with the following type:  "Why did you try to kill yourself?"  The answer:  "You told me to be happy."

And there are other photos of young girls who have just cut themselves and blood is everywhere.

And it looks like Paris reached out from time to time to get help, because there are several postings which have anti-cutting messages.

Family sources tell TMZ ... Paris is "doing better" at UCLA Medical Center but still in denial and is fighting therapy.   Although she has no desire now to cut herself again, we're told professionals are warning the family they need to figure out the triggers that plunge her into darkness.

Sources tell us ... Paris will move from UCLA to another treatment center, and she could be there for 3 months. Photo courtesy of Getty

(There are pics from Paris' alleged tumblr account on TMZ)

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This just confirms to me that we won't be seeing Paris for a while. Whether she's actually in the hospital or some where hanging out with MJ, I think this just let's us know Paris will be M.I.A for the immediate future. 

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Michael Jackson Death Doc Conrad Murray Could Be Out Of Jail By The End Of Summer

Conrad Murray is hopeful that he will be out of jail by the end of August after serving just two years of a four-year jail sentence for the involuntary manslaughter of Michael Jackson, RadarOnline.com has exclusively learned.

The killer doc is “boasting to his girlfriend, Nicole Alvarez, that he will be out of jail by the end of summer. He is counting down the days until he is released,” a source close to the situation revealed.

Murray — convicted in November 2011 over the death of the “Thriller” singer, 50 — is currently behind bars at Men’s Central Jail in Los Angeles.

“Murray has complained that he should have been let out sooner and says the only reason it hasn’t happened is because Sheriff Lee Baca is running for re-election and doesn’t want to deal with negative publicity if he was released and placed on house arrest,” the source said.

In Los Angeles County, the jails are run by the Los Angeles Sheriff’s Department and prison overcrowding dictates that inmates typically serve less than half of their sentences for non-violent convictions.

Involuntary manslaughter falls into that category.

As Radar previously exposed, the disgraced cardiologist has had special treatment whilst locked up, having been granted a personal cell phone to use,

“Dr. Murray was given a phone because of the resources it would take to take him out of his cell to take him to the pay phone were just tapping the already very limited jail resources,” said the source.

“He is on his phone 24/7, typically calling his baby mama, Nicole Alvarez, along with his attorney. The phone can’t receive any incoming phone calls but Murray can place collect calls to anyone he wants.”

Ironically, Murray could be released during the final days of the wrongful death lawsuit which claims AEG negligently hired him.

Murray refuses to face the Los Angeles court to say if he was forced to pump the King of Pop full of drugs for shows. The trial is expected to continue for months.

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I was a little confused that noone mentioned it.....is it only a "news" in germany ? Here the media told that noone else than Grace was allowed to visit Paris in hospital, not Debbie, not Katherine...they are not allowed, only Grace could go to Paris.

Weird, fater this testimony and that she was official not with her since years...

I don't understand, only watching and listening and waitung....


More contradictions....

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PARIS JACKSON
My Nanny Snuck into
MICHAEL JACKSON'S BED


Paris Jackson told a creepy story about one of her former nannies and Michael Jackson ending up in bed together ... and she said it under oath during a deposition taken for the wrongful death suit against AEG.

Video of Paris' deposition was played in court Tuesday ... and the highlight was her description of Michael's relationship with ex-nanny Grace Rwaramba.

In the depo ... Paris explained to attorneys for AEG that Michael warned his children about Grace, telling them ... "She was sneaky. She wasn't an honest person, and she lied a lot."

Paris said she didn't know specifically what she lied about -- but then seemed to suddenly remember one freaky detail about Grace sneaking into Michael's bed while they were staying in hotels.

Paris starts out saying ... "This is gonna freak you out."

She's right. You gotta hear it, and really interesting to hear it in Paris' words.

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(Idk how to embed vids, but the vid is credited to MichaelJacksonINsider, which I think is Pearl Jr's website)

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thank you appplehead for embedding the vid!

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‘She Was Obsessed With Him’: Paris Jackson Testifies In Videotaped Deposition How Michael Jackson Woke Up To Find Nanny Grace Rwaramba In His Bed

Looking poised and confident, Paris Jackson smiled, laughed and joked with lawyers deposing her in the billion dollar wrongful death lawsuit of her late father Michael — just months before she attempted suicide.

Looking poised and confident, Paris Jackson smiled, laughed and joked with lawyers deposing her in the billion dollar wrongful death lawsuit of her late father Michael — just months before she attempted suicide.

RadarOnline.com has exclusively obtained the videotaped interrogation held on March 21 which was played to the jury hearing the case in a Los Angeles courtroom on Tuesday afternoon.

The 15-year-old heir to the Jackson fortune — who slashed her wrists and was rushed to hospital on June 5 — was questioned under oath about her former nanny, Grace Rwaramba.

“You’re going to get creeped out… no joke,” the jovial teenager told lawyers representing concert promoter AEG, as she recounted how the King of Pop had told her that he didn’t like Rwaramba, who she said was “obsessed” with her father.

Charged Paris: “My dad didn’t like her so he tried to keep her away from us. He would send her to run errands a lot… He said she was sneaky, she was not an honest person and she lied a lot.”

When asked why, if the pop star didn’t like Ugandan-born Rwaramba, did he not fire her, Paris testified: “He felt bad. She didn’t really have a lot of money.”

The issue of Rwaramba became an issue in the Jackson’s case when lawyers for the famed music family hinted Rwaramba had been fired by AEG — the company behind Jackson’s ill-fated “This Is It” comeback tour — the same way his personal chef Kai Chase was let go two months before Jackson died.

The portrait painted by Paris is very different to how Rwaramba had previously been viewed; it had been thought she was like a mother to Jackson’s children Prince Michael, 16, Paris and ten-year-old Prince Michael II, aka Blanket, over her 17 years of employment.

Rwaramba was introduced to Jackson by his former manager Dr Tohme R Tohme. She started out as a secretary before working her way up to supposedly become the most important woman in the superstar Thriller singer’s life.

Jackson and Rwaramba were thought to be so close that the couple was rumored to be considering marriage.

With Paris still in hospital after her suicide bid – and having been visited by Rwaramba — lawyers were forced to introduce the video.

Paris, sporting short-cropped black hair, told lawyers that it was unrequited love, however.

Said Paris: “She used to be (one of the nannies) but she got really creepy. This is going to freak you out. One time, it was before — me and my brother were really young — before Blanket was born.

“When he would stay in a hotel, or whatever, she would call the hotel and say that she was his wife. She was obsessed with him… They let her in and he’d wake up and she would be in his bed.”

After one of the lawyers reacted to Paris’ story, she joked, “I saw your expression. You are like, what? That is what he told us and it is kind of creepy.”

“It is a little creepy,” one lawyer said, agreeing.

Asked why her father didn’t get rid of her, Paris replied: “He sent her to India, I think. He sent her to India to get some stuff. She kept coming back.”

Katherine Jackson and Michael’s three children contend the concert promoter failed to properly investigate Doctor Conrad Murray, who was convicted of the involuntary manslaughter death of the singer in 2011.

Lawyers for the Jacksons told the judge on Wednesday they expected to rest their case by July 8.

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"A family friend told the Sun Newspaper"

The Sun.... That's all I needed to read.  And maybe I'm in the minority, but I happen to think Paris looks very much so like Michael, especially when she smiles.

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TMZ Articles / PARIS JACKSON I HATE JUSTIN BIEBER!
« on: June 15, 2013, 08:54:55 AM »

PARIS JACKSON
I HATE JUSTIN BIEBER!


Paris Jackson DETESTS Justin Bieber, largely and ironically because he wouldn't speak up about teenage girls cutting themselves ... TMZ has learned.

Sources connected to the family tell TMZ ... Paris -- who is currently at UCLA Medical Center after cutting herself with a knife and downing 20 Motrin -- thinks Justin is a terrible role model for young girls.  She was enraged after some of Justin's female fans started tweeting about cutting themselves as an expression of love for the singer and he went radio silent, rather than talking the girls out of it.

We're told Paris got very angry after seeing the pics TMZ posted of Justin smoking weed in a hotel room in early January.  She thinks he owes his fans more as a role model.

Paris -- who lives in Justin's Calabasas gated community -- thinks Justin's various missteps in the hood are "a disgrace."

The word "hate" was used very clearly to describe Paris' feelings toward JB.


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TMZ Articles / Re: AEG LIVE ON THE ROPES
« on: June 14, 2013, 03:20:06 PM »
"On The Ropes" is a phrase in Boxing, used when a Boxer is about to get knocked out and the fight is over. Hopefully this hoax is on the ropes (in a good way of course!)

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