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(...)what's with the mommy card now?

People change, situations change
 

i agree, i just hope she is sincere.  but, because of who they are & what they have they should keep their guards up at all times. i think this may be why mike had problems with bonding with people.  i'm sure in the back of his mind was the thought do they want me for me or who i am and what i can offer. and ask why all of a sudden the change.  mike's been gone for almost 5 yrs. 

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But our sources say Rowe is pissed but not surprised at the attack, insisting she never abandoned her kids.  She says Michael constantly called her for parenting advice and she was always there for him and the children.

not seeing ur children for yrs at a time = abandonment.  most people that seek parenting advice usually goes to an EXPERIENCED parent for the info (unless u call raising horses the same as raising children).  being there as a parent means more than just for phone calls.  it means literally BEING THERE, day in - day out, everyday doing the same things over & over again.  her statement alone tells me she has no idea of what being a parent really is. :icon_rolleyes:
debbie = B.S.



I agree with you, but it's also MJ who made this choice to raise their children on his own, it was part of the agreement between Debbie and MJ.
So we can't blame Debbie alone for abandoning her kids imo. If i remember correctly Debbie knew at forehand MJ wanted Kids of his own, and she agreed on giving him his kids. I do believe Debbie did this mostly if not completely out of love for MJ, yes and ofcourse she received money, but maybe it was also part of the adoption plan,  to work this out legally.
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i do remember her saying she had those babies for mj.  which makes me believe she had no interest in being a parent, it was done as a favor.  so in other words she was no more than a surrogate/oven. so what's with the mommy card now?  yes mj did decide to raise their children on his own.  but, this would be one time the great mj would have had a fight on his hands,  because it would not have been his choice to make... UNLESS....she had no interest in being a mother.  whether she did this out of love for mj or a calculated move only she knows what was in her heart. sorry,  i'm just not buying her B.S.

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But our sources say Rowe is pissed but not surprised at the attack, insisting she never abandoned her kids.  She says Michael constantly called her for parenting advice and she was always there for him and the children.

not seeing ur children for yrs at a time = abandonment.  most people that seek parenting advice usually goes to an EXPERIENCED parent for the info (unless u call raising horses the same as raising children).  being there as a parent means more than just for phone calls.  it means literally BEING THERE, day in - day out, everyday doing the same things over & over again.  her statement alone tells me she has no idea of what being a parent really is. :icon_rolleyes:
debbie = B.S.

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Hoax Pictures / Re: The mystery of MJ's height
« on: April 12, 2014, 05:40:26 PM »
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Mattie, it's not a no go area. We've had several threads discussing the possibility of 2 MJs. I started one myself not long ago. Just because not everyone (me included) agrees doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't talk about it if you want to. It is a fascinating idea!

All I personally would disagree with in your comments above, is that I don't think 'more than one MJ' is the only possible explanation for the differences we've witnessed over the years.

And your English is just fine, so no worries there!




I dont say/mean it is the only possible explanation(thats my problem in expressing myself)but until now nobody came with a better/evidence explanation for me.
For me, all the difference can not be explaned away with high heels/make up and lightning..and that is the only answer you get and you have to be okay with..most members resist any idea of more than one MJ  and dont want to dig deeper
But for me something else is going on..and if i could i would investigate this..But unfortunaly my English is not good enough!
Thats what i think is a missed change.
But i dont overreact/overcomplicate and can let go!
So be it.
 

if u are TRULY curious about something u owe it to urself to check it out ( self gratification).  maybe u can find something in ur native tongue on it.  afterwards should u care to share,  just throw it out there.  i agree ur english is fine.

Dont you think i tried that??  In my native tongue there is nothing of interest.
And wen i speak about it they make fun of me.
In the English laguage wen it gets difficult i have problems in understandig so i can not find my way further.
It is not that simpel for me,you dont know how much time it takes for me to write this.
A lot of words i have to looke up before writing..And translater is no option because i can not read my own words anymore wen i use that.
But it is okay..i keep on reading and maybe one day   :icon_e_smile:

to say- don't u think i've tried that  :icon_e_surprised: can be considered abrasive.  which will put someone in a defensive mode, which is where i was about to go, with a reply of  "excuse the hell out of me". but i remembered english  isn't ur first language. it's best to say i've tried that.  good luck on that which u seek

See!! here it comes :(  In my language it is a normal thing to say.
That is why i never post much,because the problems of expressing myself.
Not everybody is understanding.
Maybe my Englisch is fine for basic things..but wen it goes deeper i get these problems.
This also keeps me from  investigating.
Better i just keep reading like i did for lmost 5 years now :icon_e_surprised: Haha
But thank you for your understanding.
   

i don't want to make u feel bad & not express ur thoughts & opinions.  true there are differences in languages and how what said is interpreted, but i also have to apologize.  thru written communication u can't see a persons face or hear their tone in the voice,  if wrong, sorry.  hope u keep posting and find what u r looking for.

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Hoax Pictures / Re: The mystery of MJ's height
« on: April 11, 2014, 01:52:49 PM »
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Mattie, it's not a no go area. We've had several threads discussing the possibility of 2 MJs. I started one myself not long ago. Just because not everyone (me included) agrees doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't talk about it if you want to. It is a fascinating idea!

All I personally would disagree with in your comments above, is that I don't think 'more than one MJ' is the only possible explanation for the differences we've witnessed over the years.

And your English is just fine, so no worries there!




I dont say/mean it is the only possible explanation(thats my problem in expressing myself)but until now nobody came with a better/evidence explanation for me.
For me, all the difference can not be explaned away with high heels/make up and lightning..and that is the only answer you get and you have to be okay with..most members resist any idea of more than one MJ  and dont want to dig deeper
But for me something else is going on..and if i could i would investigate this..But unfortunaly my English is not good enough!
Thats what i think is a missed change.
But i dont overreact/overcomplicate and can let go!
So be it.
 

if u are TRULY curious about something u owe it to urself to check it out ( self gratification).  maybe u can find something in ur native tongue on it.  afterwards should u care to share,  just throw it out there.  i agree ur english is fine.

Dont you think i tried that??  In my native tongue there is nothing of interest.
And wen i speak about it they make fun of me.
In the English laguage wen it gets difficult i have problems in understandig so i can not find my way further.
It is not that simpel for me,you dont know how much time it takes for me to write this.
A lot of words i have to looke up before writing..And translater is no option because i can not read my own words anymore wen i use that.
But it is okay..i keep on reading and maybe one day   :icon_e_smile:

to say- don't u think i've tried that  :icon_e_surprised: can be considered abrasive.  which will put someone in a defensive mode, which is where i was about to go, with a reply of  "excuse the hell out of me". but i remembered english  isn't ur first language. it's best to say i've tried that.  good luck on that which u seek

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debbie, debbie, debbie,  never cared much for her.  how could a woman carry, give birth to, sign a contract, recieve a payday and agree to not have contact with her babies.  for this reason i have no respect for her.  when her & mike split even if he had custody NO WAY would he dictate not seeing them (anything for money).  now she's the i'm so concerned mommy.  not saying she doesn't have love for them, but she's never loved them enough, imo.  and to get custody is an AUTOMATIC payday in itself, because their under 18 and cannot legally control the support money. 
debbie, debbie, debbie,  u must think people have a  'D'  on their foreheads for DUMB. 

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Conspiracy Theories / Re: Humanity's "Inheritance" Being Released
« on: April 11, 2014, 01:07:41 PM »
i wonder if this has anything to do with N.E.S.A.R.A.  which is also about stolen funds being retuned ?  an eta on either would be nice...b4 i croak....thank u

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Hoax Pictures / Re: The mystery of MJ's height
« on: April 09, 2014, 06:48:51 PM »
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Mattie, it's not a no go area. We've had several threads discussing the possibility of 2 MJs. I started one myself not long ago. Just because not everyone (me included) agrees doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't talk about it if you want to. It is a fascinating idea!

All I personally would disagree with in your comments above, is that I don't think 'more than one MJ' is the only possible explanation for the differences we've witnessed over the years.

And your English is just fine, so no worries there!

I dont say/mean it is the only possible explanation(thats my problem in expressing myself)but until now nobody came with a better/evidence explanation for me.
For me, all the difference can not be explaned away with high heels/make up and lightning..and that is the only answer you get and you have to be okay with..most members resist any idea of more than one MJ  and dont want to dig deeper
But for me something else is going on..and if i could i would investigate this..But unfortunaly my English is not good enough!
Thats what i think is a missed change.
But i dont overreact/overcomplicate and can let go!
So be it.
 

if u are TRULY curious about something u owe it to urself to check it out ( self gratification).  maybe u can find something in ur native tongue on it.  afterwards should u care to share,  just throw it out there.  i agree ur english is fine.

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listening to mj vids earlier & ran across this.  do u c anything (i don't).  or are they just copying off of the alive (on the lips) theory?   

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okaaay...now i've found this 

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does anyone speak this language ?   

once i get started on something i'm like a dog with a bone.  according to pearl jr, (which i know alot of people do not like)  she states:

I think we have figured out what is written on MJ's lips on the Xscape album. Thanks Uncovering the TRUTH on Sofurgo/PPPYT/Michael Joe Jackson & BAMS DAY facebook page

B I H B / 1 4 which when decoded are the numbers these letters are in the alphabets
2 9 8 2 / 14, which is Michael's birthday written the European way 29th of 8 (August) 2014. That would signify a NEW BIRTH for Michael, a NEW BEGINNING and possibly a Come Back date, but I'm NOT holding my breathe waiting. MJ changes his mind often and will plan to Comeback and change his mind the last minute. But this looks like the plan for today´╗┐! 

you can find info on this vid in the comments section.

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is the reason for the weird collar because something is supposedly written on his lips (again)
now,  the question is what & more importantly by whom

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to her fans don't get mad....but....i've always thought lady gaga was/is a G.U.Y  ( A TRANSVESTITE MAYBE)   

sorry :-\

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o.k., I KNOW this is going to sound extremely super craaaazy   :Pulling_hair:  (but,  :WTF:)  i remember looking at an interview with jermain saying mj is safe now and no one can get to him or hurt him (going off my memory) that he is safe now.  he didn't come off as sad due to dying it was more like hidden/gone.  and i thought well what is he off planet.  now with the universal (pattern) looking clothing and talk of  wormholes brought the memory back.   yeah crazy i know.  but for me it's o.k. i like to keep an open mind.  i tried to find the vid but there are way too many - not much patience.  can u beLIEve it's been almost 5 yrs (and we're still here)

Humans are not really safe in space.

You're not crazy! There are many people that think just like that! I know some of them.
Speaking for myself... I don't think MJ is hidden in the space, but... Yeah, let's keep an open mind!

thanks for saying i'm not loco  :icon_razz:.  i remember seeing on the news or something that if u pay a kazillion dollars ( exaggeration - but it might as well be - it was A LOT, u can take a trip thru outer space).  they claim this in a few years.  (that would be a dream come true to be out in the galaxy looking at the creator's creations).  since it's claimed the technology they have is 50-100 yrs further along then they let us know about,  it could be happening now.  if u research black budget projects it's said they  already have been there.  there are these things called a jump room & space elevator (research)  that make far out claims.  i've always been intrigued with the "so called" unknown and unanswerable.  it's also said that intelligent beings live inside the planets not on the surface, due to the elements. some say earth is hollow with a hole at the north and south pole & a inner sun & beings. (research adm richard byrd) the ancients called this place shambala.  this inner sun is what causes the aurora borealis.( differnt color lights coming from earth into the sky.)  i don't know if all of this is true, but one thing that is said by "other beings" is-  they don't understand why we kill our own kind and have to pay to live on a planet we were born on.  true or not that makes perfectly good sense to me. 
here u can see a picture of the hollow earth:


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what do u think...the rabbit hole is never ending

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o.k., I KNOW this is going to sound extremely super craaaazy   :Pulling_hair:  (but,  :WTF:)  i remember looking at an interview with jermain saying mj is safe now and no one can get to him or hurt him (going off my memory) that he is safe now.  he didn't come off as sad due to dying it was more like hidden/gone.  and i thought well what is he off planet.  now with the universal (pattern) looking clothing and talk of  wormholes brought the memory back.   yeah crazy i know.  but for me it's o.k. i like to keep an open mind.  i tried to find the vid but there are way too many - not much patience.  can u beLIEve it's been almost 5 yrs (and we're still here)

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BTW: that outfit is clearly not a real outfit but a virtual one.
 

oh o.k.  i like it,  but they should have done something different with the collar. i like 2c his face

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lol,  doesn't the bible state you can't serve 2 masters

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"...at least that's what doctors are saying"...  I'm not american, but... This kind of information is private... Isn't it? So doctors tell everybody that Debbie may have Lymphoma?! Weird...LOL

Well...  There's a new star on the story... Debbie, of course. I just don't understand her role...Yet!


i was thinking the same thing.  there's been alot of her lately and i've wondered why??

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