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Michael Jackson News / Re: Arnie is now getting death threats!!!!
« on: May 02, 2010, 02:09:38 PM »
Quote from: "whisper"
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Klein and Pfeiffer, who has also reportedly had his life threatened, have hired bodyguards since the incident


Oh my ! They should think twice b4 saying anything !  :?

How could they not have know this would happen.  Dr. Klein is another one not thinking clearly.  He's already said that the press after Michael died seriously hurt his business.  So now and by choice, he's in the press a lot and getting threats to boot [ which I believe].  For safety reasons alone I'd think twice before stepping foot into his office.

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Quote from: "moyrum"
woow this was interesting but why did he have to write this "Unlike his neighbors, however, MJ is permanently dancing with the white rabbit" What is that suppose to mean  :?  And why have they got Murrays age as 51, he was 56 in 2009.
It means that unlike anyone around Michael that might being fooling around with a drug and still lives to tell, the reverse is true of Michael.  Michael died.

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Here is your proof!!!!!!
« on: May 02, 2010, 10:24:47 AM »
You need someone to talk to.  Don't delay.

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Quote from: "MJmakesmespeechless"
What a bunch of BS!!! What does this guy think he is going to get out of this?

Michael constantly being bashed. Makes me just SICK to my stomach

The lies and inuendo must STOP!!!

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Jason came out with this story not long after Michael died.  I never saw anywhere that it was anyone but him that told this story.  I mention that because in the online clip I watched of Jason on "Extra" he said that he would have preferred that it didn't come out but that wasn't really his doing.  So who's doing was it.

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Quote from: "LoriCStone"
Ok so I watched the Robin Roberts interview last night just to  see if I can pick up anything and I noticed something hanging on her wall. It's the scene where they are looking at a picture of Michael at the beginning and there was a big frame in the background with  with white  lettering and has a  blue  background it is right next to Janet and I swore it said Dave Dave on it please check it out for me I don't know how to post the  video let me know what you think :mrgreen:

It's says 6th Ave and 8th Ave

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Dr. Conrad Murray / A Patient of Dr. Murray's Died In 2007
« on: May 02, 2010, 12:01:21 AM »
I did not know this.

According to TMZ, a 67 year old Las Vegas patient died after Murray drained the fluid from his heart in 2007. The wife of the patient was told that his heart was punctured, so she sought a coroner to investigate. A punctured left ventricle was listed as one of four causes of death for the patient.

The family of the patient is only opening up about the case now. At the time, they wanted to sue Dr. Murray for malpractice. TMZ reports that they chose not to because of how expensive it is to do so. Another medical expert would have had to testify, which tends to be fairly costly.

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I just watched Dr. Klein's TMZ interview for the first time today.  It wasn't as horrid as I thought it was going to be.  He was clearly trying to explain how Jordy might have seen Michael's wee with the peeing in the cup scenario as a possible explanation.  I don't think Michael would have peed in a cup in front of kids.  Anyway, Dr. Klein wasn't kidding when he said that he didn't think Dr. Murray was good with his hands - I think that's what he said.  I kind of wish I'd watched it before now.  He talked about some things I hadn't heard until now.

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Other Odd Things / Re: Latoya's interview on Jensen 04/15
« on: April 29, 2010, 04:14:01 PM »
Quote from: "topsecretgirl"
This is interesting, now she is saying when she heard the news that she was at home, just 3 min. away from where Michael lives! :roll:
She also says he was already 'dead' before they took him to the hospital.

[youtube:2sfkl3uh]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zLzXur4e34&feature=PlayList&p=30303C0F95D104B0&playnext_from=PL&index=0[/youtube:2sfkl3uh]

Michael did die at the house.  It was touch and go.  Michael could not maintain a normal  heart beat.

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Other Odd Things / Re: Jermaine's concert in Gambia
« on: April 29, 2010, 09:03:15 AM »
Quote from: "777"
What makes me scared, is the way he talks about MJ. Could he be gone? THIS MAKES ME CRAZY! Am I even sane? I dont know what to think anymore.  :?

Are you asking rhetorical questions or do you really want answers?  Do you want honest answers or just answers you want to hear?

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Quote from: "hesouttamylife"
but doesn't it blow the mind that these things actually existed?  Do any of them residually exist today?  How many people are left with these false memories as a result of this MK Ultra mind control?  I have started really paying more attention to the throw away people, the long time homeless, the loners, especially the ones who walk and talk to the wind, many of whom are war veterans and/or have been diagnosed mentally ill.  If you tune in sometimes and listen to the stories they mutter to themselves or as they talk to their invisible companions, some of what is heard is fascinating and at times too familiar to ignore.

When I say false memories I mean that even though their real memory has returned or returning, that some of the recall is false.  I noticed this when I first read Brice's work.  I don't think false memory is necessarily true of all victims though.  I'd say it's a safe bet these programs still exist.  When you asked if we find it mind blowing, I thought "no", then thought I wonder if I ever would have even in my youth.  Then decided no I wouldn't have because I remember the mess in the 70's and I don't remember being especially shocked.  If you're really interested in the topic, I find this lady to be very credible.  You will find everything you need at the link below.  I do not believe that Michael was a victim or believe that his father was an agent.

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You might like this video - This entire interview is available somewhere but don't recall where now.  You might find from 4:00 on expecially interesting.
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Quote from: "hesouttamylife"
She is the person who swears that she saw the Jacksons being abused as young performers

Do you believe her?
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Dr. Jolly West, former head of UCLA Medical Center Neurosurgery Dept.

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Louis Jolyon West,
Psychiatry & Biobehaviorial Sciences: Los Angeles

1924-1999
Professor

1999, University of California: In Memoriam

On January 2, 1999, Louis Jolyon "Jolly" West, the former chairman of the UCLA Department of Psychiatry and Biobehavioral Sciences, died of a rapidly advancing, malignant tumor.

Born in 1924 in Brooklyn, New York, of immigrant Russian-Jewish parents, he grew up in poverty in Madison, Wisconsin. Like many children of recent immigrants, he was bent on obtaining an education. Entering the University of Wisconsin at the age of 17, he determined to fight in World War II against fascism. He enlisted in the U.S. Army and was sent to the University of Iowa in the Army Specialized Training Program, and then to the University of Minnesota School of Medicine from which he graduated in 1948. After a year of internship in internal medicine, he served a three-year residency in psychiatry at the Payne Whitney Clinic of New York Hospital and Cornell University School of Medicine. In 1948 he had transferred to the U.S. Air Force Medical Corps, and in 1952 was appointed Chief of Psychiatry Service at the Lackland Air Force Base, San Antonio, Texas. While holding this position, he had also been appointed Professor and Head of the Department of Psychiatry, Neurology and Biobehavioral Sciences at the University of Oklahoma School of Medicine--the youngest person ever to have held a chairmanship in psychiatry in the United States until, or since, that time. In 1969, he moved to UCLA to head its department and direct the Neuropsychiatry Institute.

Implicit in the foregoing are the outlines of an American success story--the poor immigrant son, who by dint of his intelligence and energy, makes the best of freedom and the opportunity offered to him to realize himself. What is not so usual in this familiar American story is that from an early age and throughout his life, West fought for the equal rights of others so that they might have similar opportunities for self-realization. Always larger than life, he was bold and courageous. He led the way toward the integration of medical fraternities, and the civil right changes in the South. He battled actively and ceaselessly for individual freedom and dignity, opposing prejudice, bias, bigotry, violence, torture, and the subjugation, punishment and mistreatment of others by governments, the judiciary, the military, kidnappers, cult, leaders, and phony prophets. He took the side of the poor, minorities, children, the disenfranchised, the mentally ill, the ignorant and the weak.

It should come as no surprise that his own clinical and research contributions focused on the effects of man's inhumanity to man, of sleep deprivation, of mind-altering and hallucinogenic drugs. He studied the psychophysiology of hypnosis and suggestibility (including their effects on pain perception), meditation, and of the emotions. He published theories of dissociative reactions, hallucinations and dreams. And throughout his career he concerned himself with alcoholism and its treatment. Later he extensively studied the social phenomena of the 1960's--the civil rights movement, the hippie culture and the green rebellion--and the pervasive violence in our society.

Through his interest in social pathologies, their origins and consequences, West extended the vista of psychiatry beyond its usual concerns. Following his retirement from the chairmanship of the department, he thought deeply and developed programs in the prevention of mental illness, addiction and crime.

His interests and his vision led him to create two departments--of Psychiatry and Biobehavioral Sciences--at the time when the two predominant underpinnings of American academic psychiatry were psychoanalytic concepts, or the treatment of the seriously mentally ill by lobotomy, metrazol or insulin injections, and ECT.

He defined the biobehavioral sciences in a multidisciplinary and multifunctional manner as the basic sciences of psychiatry, spanning the spectrum from epidemiology to cultural anthropology, to the study of primate behavior, pharmacology, neurochemistry, neuropsychology, psychophysiology, psychoendocrinology, psychoneuro-immunology, cognitive neurophysiology, neuroanatomy, and computer modeling of psychotherapy, and human brain development.

Jolly West served his country and his profession well. He was a consultant of the U.S. Air Force, the VA, the USIA, the U.S. National Academy of Sciences, the Peace Corps, the NIMH, the Department of HHS, the AMA, the APA, the American Specialty Boards, and private foundations. He served on the editorial board of 12 publications and on many medical school committees.

He received many honors and awards, including an honorary doctorate of humane letters from Hebrew Union College. During his career, he gave numerous prestigious, endowed lectures, both here and abroad.

The egalitarian principles that guided Jolly West's life were exercised in the way he ran his department. He had a fierce loyalty to it and its members, and to UCLA; he supported and promoted both. He ran the department with a light hand, encouraging and supporting his young colleagues, attracting many senior, distinguished colleagues, and allowing its members the optimal degree of freedom to pursue their interests.

He is survived by his wife of 54 years, Kathryn, a distinguished clinical psychologist; two daughters, Anne and Mary; and a son, John.

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A letter from the editor of Ms. Brice's book through the site Educateyourself
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I've not doubt that Brice was a victim, but my instinct when I read her material was that she also had some false memories.

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TMZ Articles / Re: Harvey Levin's past
« on: April 27, 2010, 04:43:50 PM »
Harvey is a good looking man.

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TMZ Articles / Re: TMZ deleted post today?
« on: April 27, 2010, 04:32:23 PM »
Quote from: "jacilovesmichael"
I googled "Michael Jackson 2010", and noticed the 2nd thing to pop up was from TMZ...a post posted TODAY. I clicked on it, and searched TMZ but couldn't find this particular post.

All you can see on google is this: Celebrity Gossip | Entertainment News | Celebrity News | TMZ.com
Originally posted Apr 26th 2010 4:38 PM PDT by TMZ Staff ... Michael tells TMZ, "If Dina wants to persist with the lies, denials and false accusations, I WILL release every one of ..... Michael Jackson -- The Cirque Comes to Town [237] ...


Why can't I find this post? Did they delete it? Did anyone else read the full post?

This is the link to what you're looking for.
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The story that waas posted at 4:38 was the story about Lindsay having lunch with dad.

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Quote from: "Sabrina"
Quote from: "Java"
Quote from: "Sabrina"
i don't watch pianogames videos anymore because he believes in Mr. Mind Control and I don't

I don't think that mind control has anything at all to do with Michael.  So if that's what you're saying, I completely agree with you.  However, mind control is real.  There is document after document outlining the programs.  President Clinton made the documents available.  President Bush undid that.  President Clinton admitted to these programs on TV and apologized.  I remember the big splash in the news and the congressional hearings about it in the 70's.  These kinds of things don't go away. They are just moved around and put under a different rug.


LOL no when I said Mr Mind Control I was talking about Uri Geller :)

Oh...lost something in translation....sorry.

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Quote from: "Integrity"
Everyone PLEASE CHECK THIS OUT! It's incredible...
Go to youtube and type Michael Jackson could still be alive (sequel part 32) by pianogames.
There is a part in his video of a black and white tv show that was titled
"The Conrad Murray Show".  
WOW!  
:mrgreen:  :shock:  :mrgreen:  :shock:
The show was about a team of investigators visiting old cases in which people were found guitly and sent to jail to try and prove them innocent.
And the actor who played the part of Conrad Murray was in a tv show called
"THRILLER" and another one called "THIS IS IT"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOW!   :D  :D  :D  :D  
THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES!
MICHAEL JACKSON IS ALIVE AND WILL MAKE HIS COMBACK HAVING EVERYONE IN  UTTER DISBELIEF & SHOCK WHILE TEACHING EVERYONE TO THINK FOR YOURSELF, DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH, DO NOT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU HEAR & ALWAYS ASK QUESTIONS!!!!
LET US ALL STAND TOGETHER IN AGREEMENT IN THE KOWING THAT
TRUTH, L.O.V.E, PEACE & INTEGRITY WILL FOREVER PERVAIL. :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D

I am not aware of "The Conrad Murray Show".  I don't think it exists, but there is "The "Court of the Last Resort; The Case of Conrad Murray," played by Vaughn Taylor in which he really does commit the murder and was never paroled.  The "This Is It" w/ Vaughn Taylor was the episode title and the show was called "Michael Shayne"

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Quote from: "Sabrina"
i don't watch pianogames videos anymore because he believes in Mr. Mind Control and I don't

I don't think that mind control has anything at all to do with Michael.  So if that's what you're saying, I completely agree with you.  However, mind control is real.  There is document after document outlining the programs.  President Clinton made the documents available.  President Bush undid that.  President Clinton admitted to these programs on TV and apologized.  I remember the big splash in the news and the congressional hearings about it in the 70's.  These kinds of things don't go away. They are just moved around and put under a different rug.

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