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I  had forgot about this interview until I stumbled on it on youtube.   :D

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I don't know if you guys seen this..
This is Bush's reply when he was asked if he had advance knowledge of 9/11

[youtube:3fpv8atg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8ChWyZZAaA[/youtube:3fpv8atg]

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I found this on you tube and wondered who the person that they were not trying to show.
I went and put in This is It dvd and it looks like Dr. Tohme Tohme. He is there for a split sec.  :lol:

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Pictures & Videos of Michael / Something that made me smile and giggle
« on: April 01, 2010, 01:25:29 AM »
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I wish I knew how to embed videos :lol:  
I have tryed to many times. I don't know what I do wrong  :lol:

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References & Similarities / Re: Some Theories
« on: March 31, 2010, 10:10:57 PM »
I forgot to say if any of my facts are wrong that I listed at the top please let me know.
If they are I am sorry. My mind was going a 100x an hour and there was so much I wanted to say and didn't get them all the way out like I wanted to  :(

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References & Similarities / Some Theories
« on: March 31, 2010, 09:54:37 PM »
Before I start..... I want to say that this is not to upset anyone or anything. This just kinda came up when trying to learn about Dr. Tohme Tohme.

1. Alejarda was Jermaine x-wife. Dr.TohmeTohme is related to Alejarda. Jermaine is the one that got the ball rolling with MJ being involved with Dr. Tohme Tohme.

2. Dr. Tohme Tohme was MJ's business manager, spokesperson and doctor

3. Dr. Tohme Tohme admits " I built a fence around Micheal Jackson to keep people out"
"I wouldn't interfere with his creative decision and he wouldn't interfere with business decisions"

4. MJ was terified of him. afraid of whatever this man maybe capable of doing.

5. He had taken over Micheal's life.
Micheal didn't know what was in his accounts
He was divided between representatives.
didn't talk to lawyers.
Dr. Tohme Tohme did it all.

6. Dr. Tohme Tohme fired many members of Jackson staff including Security guards, nany Grace Rawaramba (twice)

7. MJ had a falling out with Dr. Tohme since oming to London in March to announce his comeback.

8. Jackson notified associctes early June (I think) that Dr. Tohme was not repsenting him after he received a cease-and-desist letter from the residency ot the 02 from Allgood Entertainment.

9. re-hired Frank Dileo

10. Was said the last time Dr.Tohme Tohme saw MJ was at Staples Center, rehearsing.

11. Dr. Tohme Tohme spoke on befalf of Jackson two weeks after tragedy.


Here is a few things that come to mind

1. After he fired Dr. Tohme and rehired Frank Dileo Mj put a plan into action.
impersonators: Has anyone thought that Mj had an impersonator live at the mansion and MJ lived else to keep him safe.
Dr. Tohme Tohme was still trying to represent MJ.
Dr.Tohme was able to get into the Staple Center when MJ was rehearsing. If he was able to get into the Center the he would be able to get into the mansion.
There is reports that Dr. Tohme was there when MJ went into cardiac arrest.
Maybe It was an impersonator that died and not the real MJ.
I remember in a Coroner Investigators Narrative (real or not idk) that reported that the bedroom that the decedent had rest in and entered cardiac arrest was not his usual room.
Remember MJ was afraid of what Dr. Tohme could do.

I hate to think of this one but Dr. Tohme was able to get to MJ and killed him and put the blame on Murray.
but, that is kinda hard to say because of all the evidence don't mach up. Never has on anything. toooooo many things are out of place.

This is another one that came into mind ( I hate that I thought of it and I hope not)
Dr. Tohme and Jermaine worked together on trying to rid of MJ.  It's just kinda funny that Jermaine is always talking. I have had some weird feelings about Jermaine because of some interviews he has done and some things I have read in a few books.. But, like I have said I hope not! And if it upsets some people I am sorry.

I have a few more that I can think of but I am going to stop. I am alrdy afraid of upseting people.

In my heart I feel MJ is alive and is trying to keep himself safe!
There is just soooo much info out there and things that don't seem right.
The only way to get the truth is to leave no stone unturned.
And again I sorry if anything my upset anyone.  :?

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Tohme Tohme / Michael Jackson's death: Jermaine Jackson speaks
« on: March 31, 2010, 02:41:25 AM »
At a brief news conference in the auditorium of the Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center this evening,  Jermaine Jackson sighed audibly several times before addressing reporters.

“This is hard,” he said softly. “My brother, the legendary King of Pop, passed away on Thursday, June 25, 2009 at 2:26 p.m.... It is believed he passed away of cardiac arrest.”

He said Michael Jackson's personal physician, Dr. Tohme R. Tohme, was with him at the house and had tried to resuscitate him. He said paramedics also tried to revive his brother and “upon arriving at the hospital at 1:14 p.m., a team of doctors, including emergency physicians and a cardiologist, worked to resuscitate him for a period of more than one hour but were unsuccessful.“

Jackson said a definitive cause of death would not be known until an autopsy is performed.

“May Allah be with you, Michael, always,” Jermaine Jackson said, ending the news conference.

UCLA officials did not say anything about Michael Jackson.

“We’re respecting the family’s wishes with respect to the patients’ privacy,” said hospital spokeswoman Roxanne Moster.

During the news conference, fans in the hospital courtyard lit candles and sang Michael Jackson songs.

-- Carla Hall in Westwood

An emotional Jermaine Jackson makes a statement to the press that his brother Michael Jackson had passed away at the UCLA Medical Center in Westwood on June 25, 2009. Genaro Molina / LA Times

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 :o  :shock:  :o  :shock:

This is the first time I heard of this!

He said Michael Jackson's personal physician, Dr. Tohme R. Tohme, was with him at the house and had tried to resuscitate him. He said paramedics also tried to revive his brother and “upon arriving at the hospital at 1:14 p.m., a team of doctors, including emergency physicians and a cardiologist, worked to resuscitate him for a period of more than one hour but were unsuccessful.“

If people seen this I sorry for the repost. I am just very shocked to see it.

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Other Odd Things / Re: Rockwell - Somebody's Watching Me
« on: March 31, 2010, 12:08:04 AM »
Quote from: "Jennie"
I'm just going to flat out say it!! I am getting this very strong feeling, like something is drilling this in my mind and it is the first thing that comes to my mind everytime I visit this topic. JUST A STRONG HUNCH!!! And I have no proof or any facts whatsoever to back it up but I still felt like sharing, maybe it will stop poping into my head after..  :lol:  :lol:

Ok so, I have a hunch that Rockwell could be Joe's and Diana's secret child wich would explain why Michael wrote a song called Dirty Diana, why Katherine hates Diana, why Diana was not invited at the funeral or memorial forget wich one it was/or both, would explain why Rockwell and Michael look so much alike, why I find Rockwell has Diana's lips. Also dont forget back in those years things like that we're kept hush hush and there we're very little divorces. Who knows, Katherine could have been so humiliated by it that she threated to put an end to the jackson5-motown deal and Berry decided to take responsibility for it having no choice and he was dating Diana in those years. I also always found it strange why Michael went to stay with Diana, wherever the other members of the group we're staying at that time could not have possibly been smaller than the house in Gary Indiana. And why Diana? I think there was mention in Taraborrelli's biography that they wanted Michael to learn from Diana from being around her... learn what exacly?? I dont know, there is a very good explanation out there for all these things I just brought up but how does anyone know they are the true reasons to why things we're played out that way???

Again, only a hunch and I mean no offense to anyone or the Jackson family by putting this out there. I am just always beeing to polite to even imagine putting ideas out like this one on the net but I feel we hit a dead end and maybe we need to explore new avenues to see where they bring us. And yes I do have a very strong feeling about this, but I cant say where it is coming from, I really dont know.

It's all for L.O.V.E. ;)

Wow! That never crossed my mind  :lol:
Good post!   :D

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This free site allows you to download MJ related articles, books etc.
The last time I checked, A.J.s book was available on the site.

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I can't find this book anywhere! I found 1 website that has it but it's over $200.00  :o

Anyone know of any place I could find the book?


Thank you so much! There is other books I wanted to look at and they are there!
*Happy dance*   :D  :D  :D  :D

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Went to check my email and this is was I saw in the news on Yahoo  :o



Could a national identity card help resolve the heated immigration-reform divide?

Two Senators, New York Democrat Chuck Schumer and South Carolina Republican Lindsey Graham, certainly seem to think so. They recently presented an immigration-bill blueprint to President Barack Obama that includes a proposal to issue a biometric ID card - one that would contain physical data such as fingerprints or retinal scans - to all working Americans. The "enhanced Social Security card" is being touted as a way to curb illegal immigration by giving employers the power to quickly and accurately determine who is eligible to work. "If you say [illegal immigrants] can't get a job when they come here, you'll stop it," Schumer told the Wall Street Journal. Proponents also hope legal hiring will be easier for employers if there's a single go-to document instead of the 26 that new employees can currently use to show they're authorized to work.

But with a congressional skirmish over comprehensive immigration reform on the horizon, skeptics from the left and the right have raised numerous concerns about the biometric ID - some of which pop up every time a form of national identification is proposed, and some that hinge on the shape this plan ultimately takes. (See 25 gotta-have travel gadgets.)

The sheer scale of the project is a potential problem, in terms of time, money and technology. The premise of using a biometric employment card (which would most likely contain fingerprint data) to stop illegal immigrants from working requires that all 150 million–plus American workers, not just immigrants, have one. Michael Cherry, president of identification-technology company Cherry Biometrics, says the accuracy of such large-scale biometric measuring hasn't been proved. "What study have we done?" he says. "We just have a few assumptions."

Schumer estimates that employers would have to pay up to $800 for card-reading machines, and many point out that compliance could prove burdensome for many small-to-medium-size businesses. In a similar program run by the Department of Homeland Security, in which 1.4 million transportation workers have been issued biometric credentials, applicants each pay $132.50 to help cover the costs of the initiative, which so far run in the hundreds of millions. "This is sort of like the worst combination of the DMV and the TSA," says Chris Calabrese, legislative counsel for the ACLU, an organization that has traditionally opposed all forms of national ID. "It's going to be enormously costly no matter what." (See photos of the High Seas Border Patrol in action.)

Lynden Melmed, former chief counsel for U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, says the pace of expanding the program is crucial. He believes that issuing the cards on a rolling basis and viewing them as "the next version of the driver's license" makes the idea of a nationally issued biometric ID seem much less daunting. "I think that there is a risk in overreaching too quickly," he says.

Another potential issue is whether the card will result in people being wrongfully denied work. The average person isn't equipped to determine whether two fingerprints are a match - even FBI fingerprint experts have their off days, as when they incorrectly implicated a Portland, Ore., attorney in the 2004 bombings in Madrid - which means employers would be relying on an automated system. And that, as well as the fingerprinting process itself, invariably leads to some small number of mistakes. (See how border-patrol officials are securing the perimeter.)

In testimony given at a Senate immigration hearing in July 2009, Illinois Representative Luis V. Gutierrez, who has led the drive for immigration reform in the House, pointed out that an error rate of just 1% would mean that more than 1.5 million people - roughly the population of Philadelphia - would be wrongly deemed ineligible for work. "This is no small number," he said, "especially in this economy, where so many workers already face extraordinary obstacles to finding a job." Dean Pradeep Khosla, founding director of Carnegie Mellon's cybersecurity lab, estimates that the error rates of computerized systems would likely be less than 2% (and could be less than 1%) but says they can never be zero. Civil-liberties advocates, citing the secret post-9/11 no-fly lists that innocents couldn't get their names removed from, worry about whether those mistakenly put on the no-job list will ever be given the chance to correct the information.

Many skeptics also worry about false positives that come not from the computer but from counterfeits or employers looking to bypass the system. "It's naive to think that this document won't be faked," Calabrese says. "Folks are already paying $10,000 to sneak into the country. What's a couple thousand more?" In a recent Washington Post op-ed, Schumer and Graham said the card would be "fraud-proof" and that employers would face "stiff fines" and possibly imprisonment if they tried to get around using it. But Cherry half-jokes that someone could falsify such an ID in 15 minutes, and Khosla says that while current technology makes fingerprints the most feasible biometric marker to use, they're also one of the easiest to steal.

Lillie Coney, associate director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, believes that keeping biometric information out of a centralized database is "the biggest challenge." Otherwise, she says, the prospect of having millions of fingerprints on hand would be too tempting for the government not to abuse. In their op-ed, the Senators said the information would be stored only on the card.

Although the card is being presented as existing solely for determining employment eligibility, "it will be almost impossible to say that this wealth of information is there, but you can only use it for this purpose," Coney says. "Privacy is pretty much hinged on the notion that if you collect data for one purpose, you can't use it for another." Calabrese expresses worries that this ID will become a "central identity document" that one will need in order to travel, vote or perhaps own a gun, which Melmed calls "mission creep."

Some dismiss privacy concerns as reflections of general government mistrust rather than legitimate technology issues. But Melmed believes that the practical issues will have to be addressed before the "social-acceptance debate" over biometric cards can even begin, and both rely on many details that the Senators have yet to present. "People are waiting to see something in writing," Calabrese says. "But the idea doesn't fill people with a warm, fuzzy feeling.

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 :x  :cry:

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I can't find this book anywhere! I found 1 website that has it but it's over $200.00  :o

Anyone know of any place I could find the book?

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This Is It / Re: Barack Obama Movie Trailer
« on: March 30, 2010, 12:10:58 PM »
I have the standard dvd format.
I don't know if it's on blue ray.

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Other Odd Things / Re: Rockwell - Somebody's Watching Me
« on: March 30, 2010, 12:06:00 PM »
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Rockwell and Michael 1983 their the same hight

MJ's head looks potoshopped to me but not sure if it is  :lol:

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Other Odd Things / Re: Rockwell - Somebody's Watching Me
« on: March 30, 2010, 11:50:15 AM »
Michael Jackson's Body Moved From Tomb

Michael Jackson's body has been moved after the crypt where it was stored became a tourist attraction.

Michael Jackson's body has been moved amid fears fans would break into the crypt where it was stored.

The late 'Thriller' star's coffin was taken to a private tomb belonging to Motown records founder Berry Gordy after the memorial service last week, but thousands of people have flocked to the spot since the location was leaked last weekend.

The Jackson family have now moved the coffin to the basement of the main building at Forest Lawn Cemetery - where the singer's private funeral took place - until his final resting place is decided.

A source said: "The Jackson family was not pleased and ordered the casket to be placed in the basement for security reasons."

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After the services, Michael Jackson’s remains were temporarily laid in Berry Gordy’s crypt he purchased for his family in the Court of Remembrance section of Forest Lawn Cemetery in Hollywood Hills.. The white marble, above-ground crypt owned by Gordy is empty besides Michael Jackson and described as a simple mausoleum only with a distinctive swooping letter “G.” Jackson is surrounded by Bette Davis, Sandra Dee and Liberace.

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If Michael Jackson's body is in Berry Gordy's family crypt, the Motown founder isn't admitting it.

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Hmmm. starting to think Rockwell is the one that died not MJ   :lol:

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Other Odd Things / Re: Rockwell - Somebody's Watching Me
« on: March 30, 2010, 04:43:13 AM »
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Quote from: "Zen"
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So he good looking guy.  His half-sister is Diana Ross oldest child.
WHERE is he now?????

How is he related to Diana Ross's oldest child and not the others? Did she have a child with Berry?

This is what I found

Ross is the mother of five children. She married music business manager Robert Ellis Silberstein in January, 1971. Daughter Rhonda Suzanne Silberstein was born on August 8, 1971; Rhonda's biological father is Berry Gordy. She is now married; her married name is Rhonda Ross Kendrick. Ross and Silberstein had two daughters: Tracee Joy Silberstein, born October 29, 1972 (now known as Tracee Ellis Ross) and Chudney Lane Silberstein, born November 4, 1975 (now known as Chudney Ross). Ross and Robert Silberstein divorced in March 1977.

In January 1985, she married Norwegian shipping magnate Arne Næss, Jr.. Their sons are Ross Arne Næss (born October 7, 1987) and Evan Olav Næss (born August 26, 1988), now known as Evan Ross). After several years of legal separation, Ross and Næss were officially divorced in late 2000. Næss was killed in a mountain-climbing accident in South Africa in 2004.

Rhonda and Tracee graduated from Brown University, and Chudney from Georgetown University. All have followed their mother to show business. Rhonda gained success as an actress in television movies and daytime soap operas. Tracee was a co-star of the hit UPN sitcom Girlfriends. Chudney is active in behind-the-scenes work and is also a model. Son Ross currently attends New York's Marist College, where he is a ski club member[24], and has not followed his siblings into show business. Youngest son Evan Ross is a successful actor, starring in the successful major motion pictures, ATL and Pride (co-starring Terrance Howard) and the HBO film, "Life Support", co-starring Dana Owens (Queen Latifah) and his older sister, Tracee Ellis-Ross.

She had a child by Berry Gordy. Which makes Rhonda his half-sister

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