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« on: January 06, 2010, 09:53:31 PM »
Beautiful! It's done by the same person as "M for Morphing", another brilliant piece of... art! I'm proud of my people 
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« on: January 06, 2010, 09:25:52 PM »
I wonder if there was ever another human being with as much crazy BS written and said about him, as about MJ... let me think... Nope! He wins!
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« on: January 06, 2010, 07:05:25 PM »
I'm glad the NAACP and the Image Awards are honoring Michael in this way, along with This Is It. However, it's not really that odd the film isn't in the documentary category. Yeah, I'm glad they're doing it this way too! I realize, it's fruitless to search for clues everywhere, and am convinced that a large part of what we consider oddities/clues are not hoax-related per se and their oddness is a matter of perception. And all we can do is to filter all that suff from an objective perspective. But the problem is, once you believe in a hoax and are not aware of how and why it was ACTUALLY done, it's very hard to be objective! =(
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« on: January 06, 2010, 06:09:52 PM »
Kenny's tweet: MICHAEL JACKSON's MEMORIAL and the THIS IS IT film were both nominated today for NAACP Image Awards Bravo MICHAEL, Long live the KING!
about 1 hour ago from web "Bravo Michael"? For starring in the Memorial? O for directing it? Hm...
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« on: January 06, 2010, 06:05:41 PM »
I actually find it a stranger thing that 'This is it' is nominated in Outstanding Motion Picture instead of Outstanding Documentary (Theatrical or Television)
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« on: January 06, 2010, 06:00:26 PM »
I absolutely agree, it makes no sense to lie and in ANY case it's more appropriate of them to send some sort of 'no comments' reply.
Its just unexplainably weird, unless there was an agreement with FL, when they refrain from participating in the whole 'burial' but keep their right to say the truth about their involvement if they feel so. It just seems that FL and UCLA are the silent participants, without any direct involvement in the discussion, only being referenced to. Would it be of any use to contact UCLA information desk with the same question ('was MJ treated there on June 25?') and see what the answer will be?...
As for the funeral, I had to think of all that concrete brought to Neverland... but it's just a crazy thought.
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« on: January 05, 2010, 02:38:53 PM »
Just came across one article and it made me scratch my head confused. Since it was in a local paper, i'll just translate a piece here: The new circumstances of the late king of pop last 48 hours just surfaced, revealed by an insider who prefered to remain anonymous.
- After the last rehearsal Michael said: "it's cool, but I will not survive 50 concerts. It will kill me".
Singer was exhausted, had problems breathing and sweated a lot. He was no longer used to the extreme physical exercise required for the live shows. He simply wasn't ready to run 50 concerts. And he was aware that a tragedy could happen right on stage.
So he had this idea to arrange one but very magnificent show - the largest and the most spectacular event in the pop music. So that it would then be released on DVD and CD, screened in the cinemas, concert halls etc. And in the same time, with this one show would make him as much money as he would have gained by doing the 50 concerts. He was in financial dire straits and was haunted by creditors, yet he knew he wasn't prepared to stand 50 gigs. He therefore proposed this compromise to AEG, the tour executive company.
But organizers rejected the proposal. As a result Michael was constantly under stress, suffered from insomnia and, as a result, became hooked on prescription drugs, which killed him. Well, the article is of 7 July, and as far as i remember there were no talks of TII movie yet back then, especially noone could predict the scale of this project - DVD's, CD's, cinemas, simultaneous worldwide premier etc.... The notion of his single-show plan just stood out for me. Could be BS (printed in one of the 'serious' papers though), but i'll leave it some benefit of a doubt.
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« on: January 05, 2010, 11:22:53 AM »
you have a point =')
thanks ='D
well, with all those 'I-am-michael-types' lately, =')
Tell me about it! I don't know what their problem is, but as Craig Harvey said, 'it must be hard to pronounce'  It's one thing to be Michael-like, another is to say you're MJ when you're not. Sad smile. However every offer follows the demand, everything happens for a reason. Sometimes we just see what we wanna see despite common sense.
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« on: January 05, 2010, 11:14:23 AM »
It's not MJ, it's a way to talk to cosmos ;-)
Sometimes after reading some crazy stuff, a little bit of wisdom is needed to refresh your brain, i sure need that! :lol: that made me go and check the great quotations sites and i had some serious laughs too!
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« on: January 05, 2010, 09:03:21 AM »
Smile back at them, humour is the best weapon. Humour and wisdom, but the second comes with time and with books I must tell you, consider yourself lucky, because one day you will meet someone who will love you for who you really are (unique), and you will know that for sure. This is priceless and very rare because it' hard to believe, but you will. hugs, xoxo
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« on: January 04, 2010, 08:23:03 PM »
Ok, that's an old article, so mods please feel free to delete this post if it's a double one, but i find it rather interesting (this is the first time i came across it): Jul. 19, 2009
Copyright © Las Vegas Review-Journal
Cardiologist's link hurting energy drink
Media mention Jackson's doctor
By PAUL HARASIM
LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNALThe more John Thomas talked about his friend, Dr. Conrad Murray, the sadder he became.
Just three days before reports flashed around the world that the 56-year-old Las Vegas cardiologist's CPR attempts were unsuccessful in keeping Michael Jackson alive, Thomas had phoned Murray to invite him to the opening of the International MMA Fight Club gym in Las Vegas.
"He couldn't have been happier then," said Thomas, staring at the floor Wednesday in the gym on Spring Mountain Road that also serves as the Southern Nevada office of Pit Bull energy products.
"He was apologetic about not being able to come to the opening, but he said he was busy with Michael."
The Pit Bull business is what binds the two men together.
Thomas, 51, is the regional sales director for the energy drink. Murray invested with a distributorship that brought the drink to his native country of Trinidad.
Thomas said the two met about five years ago through a mutual friend, financier Fabian Vincent, during filming of a Pit Bull commercial.
In his last phone call with Murray, Thomas said last week, it was evident how much Murray "liked being in the limelight, meeting all the celebrities."
And it was clear to Thomas that the $150,000 a month Murray said he was getting from Jackson was helping him through "some of the financial troubles he talked about."
"He sounded great, really upbeat," Thomas said.
Since they last spoke, Murray has become a central figure in a police investigation into the entertainer's death. That has resulted in a media portrait of the cardiologist that Thomas doesn't recognize.
Attempts to get Murray's comments were unsuccessful.
Under the headline, "DOC LIKES TO PARTY," The Sun, a British tabloid, described Murray as a hard-drinking party animal who, when he isn't promoting Pit Bull, chases younger women.
One woman identified as a "promotions girl" said he enjoyed the models he took with him to the Caribbean: "He had a ball with them. He was up into the early hours drinking and having fun and took a particular shine to one ... at least 20 years younger than him."
"He enjoyed posing bare chested with the girls," she was quoted as saying.
On FOX News, Geraldo Rivera described Murray as cavorting with Las Vegas models he flew to Trinidad to help him promote "a very unhealthy" energy drink.
As the investigation into Jackson's death unfolds in the public eye, and Murray is more frequently mentioned in tabloids and on celebrity gossip Web sites, other people associated with him in Las Vegas are trying to square the man they knew with the profile emerging in the media.
Karen Chacon, one of the models Murray helped select for the Pit Bull promotion in Trinidad in 2005, said Murray was "very respectful of the models."
"If he had a relationship with anyone, that was up to him and the model," she said.
Chacon said while Murray drank alcohol, she never saw him get drunk.
"He knew when to stop. He was very professional."
Dr. Lydia O'Connor-Sanders, a Las Vegas family practitioner and longtime Michael Jackson fan, said her own experiences with Murray make her eager to read everything about him.
At first, she said, Murray was nice "to someone just starting out," allowing her in 2004 to set up an office in the practice he shared with another doctor on East Flamingo Road. She paid a third of the rent. Repeatedly, she said, Murray tried to get her and her daughter to buy Pit Bull.
"In a nice way," she said.
"I referred patients to him for tests. I found him very pleasant and professional."
But less than a year later, she said, Murray and his colleague gave her two weeks notice that they were moving out.
"I was left holding the bag on that space," O'Connor-Sanders said. "I had to do some begging and quick talking to the leasing manager."
It was that kind of behavior, she said, that made her think that he was capable of running away from debts.
Murray has left a trail of legal and financial troubles during his 10 years in Las Vegas.
Judgments or liens totaling about $450,000 were rendered against Murray from finance and leasing firms and for failure to pay child support and student loans.
Two pending lawsuits against him, brought by Digirad Imaging Solutions and Siemens Financial Services, are seeking judgments totalling more than $366,000.
If Murray was troubled by his legal and financial troubles, O'Connor-Sanders said she didn't see it in 2004.
"I remember how happy he was when he got a new Mercedes convertible and he drove it to the office and showed it to everyone. He got a new white lab coat from his office with his name on it so he could drive around town and show everybody that he was a doctor who made it."
When O'Connor-Sanders went to Los Angeles for a week to mourn Jackson's death, she was interviewed by a TV reporter. She wondered why the man she knew as a competent cardiologist only performed manual CPR, as has been reported in the media.
"You would have thought he would have had much more on hand for an emergency," O'Connor-Sanders said. "There are so many questions that need answering."
Val Dorsey, who runs Val's Cafe near Murray's Global Cardiovascular Associates office on East Flamingo Road near Eastern Avenue, doesn't believe the media portrayal of the physician who often stopped by her eatery.
"He's the nicest man you'll ever want to meet," she said. "He's very polite and friendly."
Vincent, a Bank of George vice president who said he's a longtime friend of Murray, finds it "terribly sad" what Murray is going through.
Vincent said he was part owner of a distribution company that was set up to bring Pit Bull to Trinidad. Murray invested heavily in the company which he said went out of business in 2007, Vincent said.
"Dr. Murray is an outstanding individual," Vincent said. "He's a reputable physician in Las Vegas."
Still, Vincent said he didn't want to talk at length about his relationship with his friend.
Thomas, however, doesn't want to stop talking about Murray, particularly his relationship with Pit Bull.
As he sat with two cans of the energy drink on his knee, he worried that Pit Bull sales worldwide could be crippled by an unfair association with Murray.
"I've already lost two distributors," Thomas said. "And I think the main reason why is because The Sun and Geraldo said Dr. Murray was a big investor or promoter of Pit Bull. It's all over the Internet."
Thomas said Jackson fans don't want to drink something they think is owned by someone who was so close to Jackson when he died.
But Murray didn't invest directly in Pit Bull, Thomas said. "He invested in a distribution company that would bring Pit Bull, bottled water and candies to Trinidad. There's a big difference."
J.D. Michaux, a spokeswoman at Pit Bull's corporate offices in Los Angeles, said the owner of the company is "highly upset" that his drink "is being tied" to Murray.
"It's definitely hurting sales among Michael Jackson fans." She said the company wants "everybody to know" the distinction between investing in the drink itself and the distribution company.
Thomas said Murray's interest in Pit Bull grew after they met during the filming of a commercial for the drink in Las Vegas.
"He particularly liked that our sugar free drink can be used by diabetics," Thomas said. "Being a doctor, he would never promote anything unhealthy."
Often, Thomas said, he would be with Murray when the doctor took the Pit Bull energy drink to other doctors for a taste test.
"And when his son was on a sports team, he took it there, too."
Frequently, Thomas said, he and Murray ate at local restaurants, including the steak house at the Palms and the El Patron on Flamingo Road. He only met Murray's wife once and described her as a "housewife" who took care of the couple's young boy and girl.
"He really liked to eat out more than anything," he said. "Most of the time it seemed he was a workaholic either here or at his Houston office."
Thomas said Murray has a big heart.
"I have high blood pressure, and every time I came by his office he had his staff check it at no cost. And one time, when he learned that the sponsor of the girl who won Miss USA International dropped his financial support for a trip to the Dominican Republic, he gave her $4,000 for the trip and hotel and to cover her gowns and outfits."
Thomas said he wasn't surprised when he found Murray became Jackson's personal physician.
"One time when Michael was in town, Dr. Murray said he helped his (Jackson's) daughter," he said. Thomas said Murray did not detail the nature of this help.
Thomas said he doesn't know what kind of money problems Murray had, only that he mentioned them.
Stories about Jackson having several doctors, as well as a prescription drug habit, worries Thomas.
"It's hard to say 'no' when the man who is doing the asking is also paying you," he said of the relationship between Murray and Jackson. "I don't know too many people who can say 'no' to $150,000 a month."You are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginOkey... so this confused me. 1. Murray enjoyed the limelight and meeting celebrities?? Was there any celebrity that spoke of meeting him? I mean i understand that meeting Michael alone must have been esctatic but what kind of limelight was his friend talking about when everyone only knew about Murray's existance AFTER June 25? 2. Murray is married and has two children with his wife?? Has anyone heard about it? Why the paps are chasing his girlfriends and never spoke about his direct family if he has one? I mean that would be some spicy detail to garnish the child-support courts, especially for TMZ, they love it. 3. The whole 'party animal' portrait is just weird... The man clearly dosn't look like one, but i could be mistaken here. Anyhow this image along with his huge debts make you wonder why MJ would hire such a doc, who isn't that prominent anyway... 4. ...ah yes, he was treating Paris in the past according to his friend (which we also heard from Frank DiLeo). But he doesn't specify for what illness. I can imagine MJ just LIKING him for no obvious reason (hell knows, maybe he WAS a great guy afterall!), but he must have liked him very much to remember him after several years and in the wake of the great comeback concerts. 5. His former colleague (and a long-term MJ fan in the same time) says she was surprised to read about how Murray was performing CPR. BTW this woman has FB (You are not allowed to view links.
Register or Login). It's a crazy idea, but if she really knows him personally AND is a fan too perhaps we could contact her... 6. A good cardiologist being in the energy drink business??... i mean i drink that sh*t too sometimes but i know it's poison, and any doctor would say that... 7. Finally, Conrad Murray must be the luckiest man in the world (and i'm not being sarcastic): he managed to drive a poshe car, have a lavish life-style (with models and stuff) and get a job for the most famous man in the world while owing money all over town, and even after manslaughtering Michael Jackson (as the story tells) he's NOT the primary suspect (just a witness), he's broke but can afford a whole legal team of lawyers and spokesmen as well as an amy of bodyguards, he is free to retun to medical practice (despite a clear violation of presciption drug policy) AND is loaded with patients who are freaking happy to see him! WOW!
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« on: January 04, 2010, 06:33:47 PM »
I know this sounds far-fetched, but could it be Michael himself leaked the track to frustrate Sony/AEG or maybe instructed Janet and LaToya to do so? ?? Just a thought! :lol: That would be a cool move! But I'm afraid quite a few roguish people might have had access to MJ's unreleased material, in fact it's been leaking from 2007 or so, however at that time it didn't receive as much attention as it's getting now. It could as well be used BY Sony as part of marketing strategy for the future releases to stir the demand, coz by then even abstemious buyers would be curious to hear what's the whole fuss is about. In fact I find it too soon after MJ 'death' that the talks of '100+ unreleased tracks' appeared in the media. But what about the other 'leaks': Pepsi commercial accident and 1996 court deposition, which appeared in the net almost simuntaneously in July. That makes you wonder :?
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« on: January 04, 2010, 05:47:17 PM »
...and Hope dies last,that's why we're all keep coming here no matter what!
Thank you for the nice posts!
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« on: January 04, 2010, 05:10:17 PM »
OMG, i can't stop laughing! Check this out, guys, the clones invaded TMZ boards too!!! 32. Please pay close attention to every event that happens after this report...watch very closely.
Posted at 2:42PM on Jan 4th 2010 by **mj** comment to this article AAAAHHHHH!!!
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« on: January 04, 2010, 12:07:14 PM »
![]() the guy in the left I'm not sure if Brett's twitter (You are not allowed to view links.
Register or Login) has been discussed on the board before (couldn't find it). Anyway i've looked it through and noticed he wasn't posting anything from May 18 till July 26, also no a single word about MJ's death, memorial, funeral, but most surprisingly - nothing about This is it - which i would expect him to comment on as a director himself and a close friend of Michael. While his twitter is a lot about movies (and not just his own). Strange isn't it? He does mention MJ though seveal times, mostly in a very positive and happy way (happy b-day Mike, merry x-mas Mike etc), post some cool pics and home videos of them together and reply to a follower who's apparently MJ fan. There's an article on his former blog bout his friendship with MJ, but i assume it's based on some old interview with him and published on June 26 on occasion: You are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginHome video ('interview') with MJ You are not allowed to view links.
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Register or LoginFor those of you who're not familiar with the man: He's an American filmmaker and music video director. He is best known for his films such as The Family Man (great movie), Red Dragon, the Rush Hour series, and X-Men: The Last Stand, New York I love you. His recent work is a music video for Mariah Carey called ' H.A.T.E. U' (aaaah those dots again! :lol: ) [youtube:1o0yql4n]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEDo8PCjP4I&feature=related[/youtube:1o0yql4n]
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