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Dr. Conrad Murray / Re: Hey someone posted this to my forum
« on: January 08, 2010, 10:58:08 PM »
Quote from: "Justlettingyouknow"

Nobody is denying that he is "real" but im sorry im not buying ANYTHING on that site.. That information was created AFTER Michael died and most of it conflicts with the real information that Jruby found (and I verified by paying myself)

You have to understand that this hoax wasnt executed only by Michael. He HAD to have federal help.. The US government is SO corrupt and create anything to look real..

I want to see ORIGINAL documentation.. Not just transcripts provided..

This is all  crazy and im keeping an openmind about everything considering what I already know.. But this Conrad Murray shit is way too crazy. I'm simply NOT buying that he is who he says he is.. No way.. Jruby did an AMAZING job at proving that..

I see... what exactly is the conflicting info? I don't deny, i'm just curious. The names and addresses seem to coincide perfectly. I agree, federal authorities can create any identity/informaton needed, but what would be the use of creating tax records which date back years for Conrad Murray? Isn't it normally done for the person under WPP? And what do you mean by original documentation? Aren't we dealing with scans/transcripts/copies all the time during this case?

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Dr. Conrad Murray / Re: Hey someone posted this to my forum
« on: January 08, 2010, 09:44:06 PM »
Guys, really look up that site his WHOLE life is there and documented: marriages, divorce, liens, cars, geesh!

The man is real.

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Dr. Conrad Murray / Re: Hey someone posted this to my forum
« on: January 08, 2010, 09:33:20 PM »
Guys... check out this site, it provides a lot of info on Murray, including his wife, properties and legal cases:

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Also, the info about his wife and children been there a while ago, in July actually (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login)

There's this woman who worked with him, she's on FB, shall we contact her?

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AEG ~ Sony / Re: Report (Michael Jackson Didn't Hire Conrad Murray)
« on: January 08, 2010, 08:40:36 PM »
I also find it weird that none of the 'suicide' stories was properly addressed by the media, but the sad truth is it could happen even without being in the news. However, those could just be the cases of 'Munchausen-by-proxy' syndrome cases (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login). If it did happen, it's tragic and obviously had to do with phsychological condition of these people rather than with MJ whatsoever. I do believe though he felt responsibile for those who loved him (remember: "You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed"? =), therefore i never thought the hoax (if there's indeed one) was for fun, it must be for very serious reasons.

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TMZ Articles / Re: "Murray" lawyers up
« on: January 08, 2010, 05:17:27 PM »
Quote from: "Chance"
I have had this thought about Murray floating around in my head for a long time.. What if Murray really did intend to kill Michael.. he was hired by Sony/AEG ... but Michael survived..but Murray doesn't know he did... and the investigation really is about Murray and whoever is behind Murray? It would explain why the DEA became involved..

That makes sense to me, in fact i've been hanging my hope on "Murder by contract" scenario for a while now. That could be a major conspiracy revealed within this case (music industry mob, leeches, shady doctors etc)! But would the same system that brought MJ down 4 years ago be helping him now? And would the family go so public (all the shows and appearances) if there was truly an undercover deal involved?  :?

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Surprise!

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My mind tells me: "Oh come on, it's Jermaine!", my guts tell me: "Hold on to your butts!"

Please, God, let it be second!

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TMZ Articles / Re: Death Investigation Complete
« on: January 08, 2010, 02:21:28 PM »
There's nothing on LAPD official site&blog either, there was nothing on CNN for all day, TMZ is the only source... in any case, i think we were all expecting this to come, didn't we? I really don't understand some depressive reactions out of the blue. It looks like there's some ice shifting finally and that's what we were praying for: hoax or justice! There can be nothing worse than June 25, whatever happens will bring us some closure. I'm more scared of nothing happening at all.

Right now we must stand united as never before, if this is the case of things wraping up!

Hugs to you, guys!

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TMZ Articles / Re: Death Investigation Complete
« on: January 08, 2010, 11:26:40 AM »
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finding a date when everyone can show is a little tricky ...

well sure it is, so many people: Kenny, Travis, Randy Phillips, the dancers, the Jacksons, Liz, Mac, Craig Harvey, Chief Bratton, UCLA staff, FL staff, FBI, LAPD, LAX staff, half of Hollywood and Manly - the whole crowd!


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Michael Jackson News / Re: Fan called Detectiv Smith (death ivestigator)
« on: January 08, 2010, 10:33:17 AM »
Quote from: "Ninanina"

There's a video on youtube by another fan wo called, and she got answers, too.
[youtube:1dpe3lya]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjmixJXUw90[/youtube:1dpe3lya]

Nobody's in LAPD is sure who's assigned to Michael Jackson case? This is ridiculous!

Is it just me or the so called detective doesn't sound like one!

On August 28 it has been posted on official LAPD blog that there will be no further updates on MJ case (and there weren't), yet they are willingly answering fan-calls? They even recall themselves??? WTH is this?

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Quote from: "forevermichael"




 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  fell of my chair laughing.... can't... stand up!

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AEG ~ Sony / Re: Report (Michael Jackson Didn't Hire Conrad Murray)
« on: January 07, 2010, 08:23:17 PM »
Quote from: "imabeliever2"
I looked up this attorney Howard Weitzman........I can't believe what I found on him!  

ANOTHER SUSPICIOUS PERSON AFFILIATED WITH MOB ACTIVITY.  And the amazing thing is that these are men in High Ranking Positions and they're all part of MJ's ESTATE, that they're refusing to let MJ's mother see :?:  :?:  :?:  

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Howard Weitzman and his entertainment business having been council for many well known clients. Weitzman seems to have had some real relationships with convicted organized crime folks or used their services in at least one of his cases, something which we will get into more with upcoming posts. He worked at MCA which has many reported incidents of being in league with the mafia.He's currently serving as the attorney for the trustees of the Michael Jackson estate.

A little more on Howard Weitzman, concerning the financial settlement with Chandlers in 1993:

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lso, I suspect the people giving him this bad advice were probably working for his enemies within the recording industry. Michael’s first lawyer was Bertram Fields who worked with an aggressive private investigator, Anthony Pellicano. From what I’ve read, these two men encouraged Michael to go to trial because they didn’t believe Dr. Chandler had a case of merit. In fact, Fields filed extortion charges against Dr. Chandler and his lawyer, Barry Rothman. According to Ms. Hughes, Chandler and Rothman took the charges very seriously because they both hired defense attorneys. Unfortunately, Mr. Fields specialized in entertainment law, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login.
from You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login (this article was posted on another thread, quite interesting, but should be taken with a grain of sault IMO)

So this man, who apparently gave MJ the worst legal advise possible back in 1993 is now an attorney for the Estate executors. Who hired him? Michael or Branca/McClain? I suggest the second.

Then we have John Branca, who was asked back a month prior to MJ's death after he resigned in 2006 (for breaching the representation ethics - working for MJ AND Sony/Mottola). We only know about MJ asking him back from DiLeo's words. However, conveniently, MJ didn't amend his will after 2006, leaving Branca as his posthumous manager.

I really couldn't find much on John McClain except him being MJ's childhood friend and a renowned music executor: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login (i found some comments to this article interesting, but of course, hard to prove)

Now this is a little off topic, but i find it very curious how some of the "messengers" in Internet refered to MJ's shady entourage:

*Michael...L.O.V.E.* from LKL blog, December 23rd, 2009 7:27 pm ET
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You people are idiots. If you cannot clearly see that I am alive, you are just plain stupid idiots. How much more outrageous and unbelievable could the story get every day. I am absolutely embarrassed that so many of my fans are such idiots!
Have a Merry Christmas while you figure out if it was Tohme, Sony, Anschultz, Dileo, Colony Capital, etc. IT WAS NONE OF THEM! I am alive!

Now there's the new oracle from the Italian forum, who said:

Sent: 01/02/2010, 11:26 p.m, user blackorwhite
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- Thome Thome works for Michael. Don’t believe what they write about him. Actually, all the trustworthy people were re-hired by Michael when he decided to go back on stage. Thanks to him Neverland has not been sold.

Wouldn't it be smart move to talk with hoax-beleivers in their language, while trying to slowly divert them from the ugly truth? Just a thought.

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Michael Lawyer Tom Mesereau speaks out
« on: January 07, 2010, 04:40:42 PM »
Tom Mesereau indeed makes an impression of an honest and noble man and an utter professional. He was at the TII premiere and the funeral. So i was surprised to know he also filed a claim to MJ estate for not being paid. I still cannot make out how some of the claims fit into hoax.

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Other Odd Things / Re: Is it a coincidence ?
« on: January 07, 2010, 02:13:22 PM »
Quote from: "KingMJ"
'Place without no name'... ironic, as no tomb actually has his name and details on!v :lol:

I woke up with this same thought today! Apart from being not a good sign for my sanity, i think this is a big coincidence!

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Michael Jackson News / Re: wtf...Memorial Service nominated for an award!
« on: January 07, 2010, 01:42:34 PM »
Quote from: "itsall4love"
Well if the Memorial wins, the award will probably be handed to one of the directors, Gregg Gelfand or Kenny Ortega... or both.

and maybe that's the reason for the KO's enthusiasm, he directed both. What a success...

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