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« on: December 08, 2012, 08:12:49 AM »
Welcome Shrimp...glad you're here with us :icon_razz: I look forward to you sharing your thoughts with us.
God bless you and your precious little boys!
With L.O.V.E. always.
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« on: December 08, 2012, 06:21:10 AM »
Interesting tweet from Paris today (12-7-12) considering the recent discussion in this thread the past few pages:
Paris JacksoηVerified
@ParisJackson
change comes from thinking thoughts you've never thought before and showing up to meet them down streets you've never walked before .
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I have taken a screen shot of it too but don't know how to paste it here.
Nice! Love that....very wise words :icon_razz: Thanks for sharing Adi. With L.O.V.E. always.
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« on: December 08, 2012, 06:16:30 AM »
I was rereading some posts last night and came across this one that I somehow missed. Very interesting thoughts indeed...thanks MJonmind...and thanks for the masoncode link, I started reading there and find it fascinating! Sim, I agree with you. Actually Scripture says that "by their fruits you shall know them", whether they be good or evil. Though MJ or any person for that matter, does the secret symbols or is a member is not the key thing. We are ALL part of the system, just lower down, whether we think we are or not--we are born into it. All history is part of it, and I mean ALL. Also it doesn't mean there not are struggles going on ALL the time within all of these secret structures, divisions. And sometimes the secret societies deliberately set up 2 sides that fight against each other--elections are one example, or labor against management, etc.
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None of this is 'fiction'....there is a TON of documented evidence that these 'secret societies' exist...and have existed for a very long time. There are also MANY signs/clues BOTH prior to June 25th and after, that Mike was WELL aware of them and may have also been a member (clothing, pins, paintings, symbols, etc). IF there was ever a plan to 'overthrow' the inner-circle (the 'bad' side), the best (and probably only) way to do so would be through infiltration...or, in other words, a sting.
It also could easily be argued that Jesus was a much earlier Mason. Throughout his teaching, there is one teaching for the masses, and a withheld teaching just for the ‘initiates’ or 12 disciples. There has always been levels, and coded messages and numerology. Quote:
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In early Christianity there were two parts of the Church, the exoteric Church and the esoteric Church (or Gnostic Church). The former was open to everyone, the latter was a form of mystery religion with secret rites and initiation ceremonies.
In that same sense here on the forum, TS is the ‘master’ teacher and we are the initiates, learning things hidden from the masses and even the vast majority of MJ fans.
There is another reason WHY there is numerology behind TPTB (including Illuminati, FreeMasons, other secret societies, most world religions), because there is one God behind it all. He has created ALL things, whether evil or good. There are many Scripture verses that prove this. He has written it all in the stars seen from earth, guided the thoughts/minds of his chosen—good or evil to fulfill his purposes—fulfill His story-line—HISstory.
But damn...I want a BAM!!!!!
That has a nice ring to it! That could be our mantra!
Loved your comparison of 'master'/initiates :icon_razz: @Sim...thanks for reposting some of TS' posts, it's great to reread them now....they 'fit' better now, in my mind anyway, than they have in the past. With L.O.V.E. always.
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« on: December 07, 2012, 01:34:03 PM »
@mjselfsweet...everything you've stated is, as you said, your 'opinion', and you are entitled to it.
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« on: December 07, 2012, 01:25:31 PM »
@mjselfsweet...Frank's account in his book contradicts Jermaine's version in his book. Not saying we can, therefore, conclude Jermaine is 'right'...but instead, just noting that there are conflicting stories of what took place. So, if the question 'why would Frank lie' is a fair one (and it is), so is 'why would Jermaine lie'? Jermaine Jackson’s new book, “You Are Not Alone: Michael, Through a Brother’s Eyes,” is a look at his late brother Michael’s rise to fame and tragic death.
In a new interview, Jermaine gave Access Hollywood’s Billy Bush a preview of the candid memoir where he revealed that his brother was supposed to be in The World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001.
“My mother had stayed up with him all the way until four in the morning and he just slept; he missed his appointments, which was great,” Jermaine told Billy, saying Michael — a long time sufferer of sleep deprivation — had planned to attend meetings in the Twin Towers that day.
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« on: December 07, 2012, 12:30:49 PM »
Bec...for me to go back and copy/paste the many instances where members and/or their comments were either ridiculed, insulted or offended is not something I'm prepared to do. For one, I don't have the time as there are many instances spanning several years (not sure why the 'surprise' at this time, when it's happened many times in the past), and 2) it's pointless based on the instances where I, and others, have publicly noted the behavior and politely asked for people to be more respectful...only to be ignored. So what's the point? The comments are all there to analyze for those interested. Perhaps it's all a matter of misinterpretation (although I don't believe so) or maybe it's just personality differences. Either way, the fact does remain that several members---past and present---whether right or wrong, have felt/are feeling disrespected and/or ridiculed. If people were more mindful of their comments in the moment...a copy/paste job after the fact wouldn't be necessary.
I posted the TS quotes...yes, to highlight the fact that some STILL don't believe in the serious side of the hoax (as is evident in many flippant comments about it all being 'just a game'---note, that was only ONE paragraph out of an entire page that I quoted)...but more importantly, in the hopes of getting back to the discussion that some were engaging in....the possible 'why's' of the hoax.
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« on: December 07, 2012, 12:00:21 PM »
There's a ton of 'irony' in many comments here....lots of hypocrisy too.
Comments/attitudes/actions here speak for themselves...and they speak loudly.
With L.O.V.E. always.
Agreed.
At least we agree on that. For those interested, some TS posts that are relevant to the discussion: R9. 9/11 Truth vs Mainstream Media
{http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNsSn6D3CP4}
It seems as if nobody noticed that this 9-11 redirect was done intentionally on the date 11-9 (9-11 backwards); this was also the 9th redirect. This message here is basically two-fold: you can’t trust the mainstream media in general, and specifically you can’t trust what the media has told us about the 9-11 attacks.
At this point it is probably a good place to stop and talk a little bit about a common term, no doubt you have heard it: conspiracy theorists; all too often, it is used with a negative connotation, a form of ridicule. So we need to establish another term: conspiracy ridiculists! You see, conspiracy theorists use evidence in support of the theory; but when opponents can’t fight the truth with evidence, they resort to ridicule in attempts to make up for their lack of evidence.
The fact is that conspiracy theories are indeed based on theories; but at least in many cases, they are based upon true theories! If you look up “conspiracy” in the Bible, you will find ten uses of the word (KJV); and out of those ten times, exactly ten of them are real conspiracies—and not merely some far-fetched imaginary theory, invented by some insanely ignorant people. If you look up the related word “conspired”, you will find similar results.
Among many serious problems with the mainstream media’s account of 9-11 terrorism, possibly the most obvious evidence of USA government involvement, is the lack of any video showing the airplane supposedly flying into the Pentagon. Probably no building in the world has more video and camera surveillance; and yet for eight years now, our beloved government hasn’t been able to cough up the documentation from any of the numerous cameras.
Sure, we have seen the still shot of an explosion; but that could’ve been from a missile or a bomb. Where is the motion video evidence of an airliner flying into the Pentagon?? Will the conspiracy ridiculists now come forward, and answer this question—since our “trustworthy” government refuses to do so???
Many hoax believers are already aware of the 9-11 conspiracy in our government. For those who want to look into it, though, here are a couple of websites that are not from wild-eyed and uneducated lunatics; instead, they are from highly trained professionals: architects, engineers, and pilots—all agreeing that the official story about 9-11 is a big fat lie! {http://www.ae911truth.org; You are not allowed to view links.
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Of course President Bush is a big suspect in the 9-11 terrorism corruption. Here is a video where he admits that he is in the secret society called “Skull and Bones” {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiisokDGbfA&NR=1}. Why do you suppose they used such a name, could it possibly have anything to do with killing? And by the way: the “conspiracy theorists” ridicule tactic was used in this clip.
Here is another video, where Bush was asked about 9-11 prior knowledge; and he was quite obviously embarrassed, and at a loss for words {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8ChWyZZAaA&NR=1}. Bush corruption will be revisited, when we examine the assassinations of JFK Sr. & Jr. (see Part 7).
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Register or Login1-16. The New World Order?
This subject generated responses from one extreme, that the New World Order (NWO) doesn’t even exist—and in fact can’t possibly exist—all the way to the other extreme of: “We’ve known about the NWO for decades, so TIAI was just a waste of time.” Well guess what: both of these two extreme complaints can’t possibly be true! And in fact, neither of the complaints are valid.
Even if all hoax believers already understood the NWO/conspiracy aspects (and many did not, before TIAI): still, the redirects and explanations of them (TIAI Revealed) are not just for hoax investigators now—they are also for the MJ fan stampede, which will surely hit the hoax web pages once the MJ return occurs. Furthermore, there has been a major awakening on these subjects since the start of TIAI—not only on the hoax forums, but also on YouTube and other websites. The MJalive999 video on TIAI part 1 now has more than 16,000 views! {http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeFpn45po5A}
For those who thought that the NWO doesn’t even exist (because if it did, they would control the internet—and we wouldn’t be able to find any information about them): the NWO is very powerful, but not all powerful. There are still many good people in powerful positions in this world; in fact, there are some good people in the secret societies (although in the lower levels, where they don’t really understand the agenda of the upper levels).
None questioning the existence of the NWO bothered to step up to the plate, and explain why there has never been any video of an airplane flying into the Pentagon. If this doesn’t convince you of major conspiracy in our own government, then nothing will. And if you are convinced of this, then you can be certain that the NWO is very real and very powerful (USA being the most powerful government on earth); and in fact George Bush Sr. is the one who announced the “New World Order” (see again the EndGame trailer in TIAI Revealed, Part 3). Neither did any NWO skeptic bother to explain why JFK Jr’s fuel selector was shut off, during his plane crash.
Do MJ and Jehovah’s Witnesses believe in conspiracies and the NWO, etc? Yes, they do! In fact, MJ specifically put the JFK conspiracy in his 1995 “Tabloid Junkie” song (which is actually about lies in all the media—not just tabloid media): “JFK exposed the CIA. Truth be told the grassy knoll” {http://http://www.lyrics007.com/Michael%20Jackson%20Lyrics/Tabloid%20Junkie%20Lyrics.html; You are not allowed to view links.
Register or Login. You see, MJ was showing that JFK was killed for exposing conspiracies in our own government (CIA). And the “truth” about JFK is the “grassy knoll”, which is the conspiracy version of the killing—not the government’s “lone gunman” theory {http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lone_gunman}.
When MJ was talking in “This Is It”, about the 4 years: he said don’t wait for the government. And in the song “They Don’t Really Care About Us”, the word “they” is not primarily about the media. {http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r75j3f-IOs4; You are not allowed to view links.
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The banned version of the video is about prison {http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAi3dJIJwgI}—and who runs prisons: the media, or the government? The other version has MJ singing “you can never kill me” {at 1:05, You are not allowed to view links.
Register or Login and this is while he’s standing beside the NWO all-seeing eye, that is also on the back of the USA one dollar bill (which says Novus Ordo Seclorum under the eye, and is Latin for New World Order {http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Novus_ordo_seclorum}).
1-17. The End of the (New) World (Order)?
As we already saw above, Jehovah’s Witnesses do believe that the end of the world is near. Different people have different ideas about what will take place at the “end of the world”; but many Christians and even other religions believe that something major is very near.
MJ himself was very clear about the 4 years; and even if it was only the environment (and he never said that the 4 years is only about the environment): it would still be the end of the world, if the damage to the environment becomes irreversible.
Also, the “2012” movie came from Sony—just like “This Is It”; and Tommy Mottola is no longer with Sony {http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Mottola}. The “2012” movie came out right after “This Is It”, and the “Jackson” and many other MJ parallels in “2012” are not just coincidence. Therefore, MJ does believe that the end of the world is near.
The original “2012” trailer had a message at the end, recommending people take it seriously and not just fiction: “Find Out the Truth Google Search: 2012” {http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKbEI8pDz0A}. Currently, if you type a “2” into the Google search window (or YouTube), the very first suggestion is “2012” (and about three more suggestions below have “2012” in them). This means that a lot of people are searching for truth about the end of the world.
Yes, there are scientists who say, “Don’t worry about the end of the world”. But there are also well-known sources who say that it’s a realistic possibility. For one, the History Channel takes 2012 seriously; it shows multiple prophecies and factors pointing to the end of the world in our time—some of which even point specifically to 2012 {http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iloM0vjEAMY}.
Many people are refusing to believe in the end of the world, merely because they don’t want to believe it—not because it isn’t true (or a lack of evidence). But who are the bigger fools: the ones who believe and are ready, yet it does not come—or the ones who don’t believe and are not ready, and then it does come??
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Register or LoginI haven't been able to go through all the posts again...but under the username "TS" alone (there are more instances under the username TS_comments and The Sign), the keywords 'NWO', "Illuminati", and "secret societies" were mentioned 74, 16 and 6 times respectively. With L.O.V.E. always.
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« on: December 07, 2012, 10:00:19 AM »
There's a ton of 'irony' in many comments here....lots of hypocrisy too.
The height of ignorance, as Einstein so brilliantly noted, is in condemning something WITHOUT investigation. The ONLY way to know if one is 'way off base' is to investigate. Based on what has been researched to date on MANY issues, including evidence directly from Mike...this line of research is far from being 'way off base'. To suggest it is, after all we have learned...or worse yet, ridicule the thought, IS very ignorant.
Comments/attitudes/actions here speak for themselves...and they speak loudly.
With L.O.V.E. always.
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« on: December 07, 2012, 08:02:53 AM »
From the day I registered on this forum to now, I never got into any of this stuff, I usually let things just go by because its easy to say something on the internet when you're not directly talking to the person face to face, which makes it common for arguments and disagreements to go back and forth and that's not the way I do things.
It baffles me to see the lack of consistency on this forum. Although I am all for different opinions and discussions of different sides and ideas, some of the thinking that is put out on here is completely lopsided.
Just by being on here is a claim that we are open minded yet some of us ridicule others for their open-mindedness on a particular subject. People complain about being mistreated and ridiculed by unbelievers because you believe MJ is alive, yet you do the very same thing you are against. Tell me what is wrong with this picture? It surprises me to see the constant contradiction and hypocrisy. Yeah sure have your opinion but a little respect would be of benefit. I don't care what anyone's opinion is, the only problem I have with an opinion is where that comment is coming from.
I mean how did some people make it this far on a board like this, it is as open minded as you can get. I mean we've heard it all before with the unbelievers ridiculing our theories so it gets kinda old when forum members do it to, if we didn't get so much already, I mean really.
The way I see it is that the root of the problem is what people think of MJ. You see it with unbelievers, they despise the idea that MJ faked his death, it's almost like poison in their mouth every time you speak of it. And yet on top of that their only reasons are...'because he would do that to his fans', 'because he wouldn't do that to his children' etc. Same here, yeah MJ might have know the main details of 9/11 or he might only know some of it or maybe even none of it, but what is stopping some people to explore those option, is it your preconceived notion of MJ?...like BTC said (great post by the way, in fact a lot of great posts) 'I'd rather be way off base in investigating something....than to be ignorant.'
The fact of the matter is, I get the feeling (and I could be way off) is that some people see MJ as the pure/innocent and perfect human being in every way. Forget what you think you knew or thought you knew, take in what you now should know and make room to discover the man you never knew. Because I have some breaking news for you...no one ever really knew the man.
Finally I will say this, believe what you want to believe, have your say but also have some manners so as to not compromise or forfeit the respect that other members give to you. Nothing is more destructive to morale than lack of respect.
That is all I will say on the matter.
![]() (Love that gif haha) Excellent post UYI...although I truly dislike seeing members feeling this way, I completely understand why several are. I'm all for giving people the benefit of the doubt....but that 'benefit' starts to dwindle as the 'doubt' decreases with insult after insult, ridicule after ridicule, ignorant comment after ignorant comment. ...have your say but also have some manners so as to not compromise or forfeit the respect that other members give to you...
As a very wise man once said, "Respect's not given, it's earned"....and I'd add, the quickest way to lose people's respect is to not show them any. With L.O.V.E. always.
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« on: December 07, 2012, 05:52:57 AM »
@Sim...I wouldn't worry about it, I'm sure most understood exactly what you were saying. Whether Mike had advance knowledge of 9/11 is probably not something we can prove concretely with the info we have...however, it is interesting that his connection with/to 9/11 made 'news' a few times after his 'death' (i.e. our attention was purposely drawn to the connection). I wouldn't be surprised to find out he did know or suspect 'something'....keeping in mind there is a big difference between knowing exactly what was going to take place and suspecting something in the works based on 'rumors' or inside info he may have had access to. In fact, he wouldn't have been the only one who had advance knowledge (and years in advance, not days, weeks or months). For starters, 9/11 (no matter who was behind it) was years in the planning....you don't just decide to fly major aircraft into tall buildings overnight, nor do you only need a few weeks to put together the resources to do so. There is a TON of evidence pointing to 9/11 being an inside job....so people in the US govt knew about it and did 'nothing' (sure, some were on the 'bad' side but I'm pretty sure some 'good' people knew about it too and just didn't have the power to do anything and/or were 'silenced'). The Chicago Sun-Times reported that:
The FBI had advance indications of plans to hijack U.S. airliners and use them as weapons, but neither acted on them nor distributed the intelligence to local police agencies. From the moment of the September 11 attacks, high-ranking federal officials insisted that the terrorists’ method of operation surprised them. Many stick to that story. Actually, elements of the hijacking plan were known to the FBI as early as 1995 and, if coupled with current information, might have uncovered the plot.”
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Register or LoginThis 'Illuminati Card Game' came out in 1995, with many interesting cards...here's two of them: ![]() Again, obviously some people somewhere had advance knowledge of 9/11....unless they just 'coincidentally' threw these cards in (they would also have coincidentally known about the oil spill too, though (among other things), since that's featured on another card). If those are 'coincidences', then perhaps all these instances where either 9/11 or the towers burning in movies PRIOR to 9/11 are as well: [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1aifunETmU[/youtube] Some are suggesting that if Mike knew, he would've gone public with it. Again, no one can say with 100% certainty that he did know or suspect (although there are a few 'clues' pointing to this)....and no one can prove he didn't. I do think it's interesting, though, how people still assume to 'know' what Mike would or wouldn't have done in any given situation (especially when the full details aren't known). I also find it interesting that so many claim to be 'awake' yet don't stop to ask themselves HOW he would've/could've told people IF he knew or suspected anything about 9/11. Should he have called CNN up? Or how about Fox news? Who controls everything we see and hear? His best (and probably only) way would've been during a performance in front of thousands of people. It is interesting that he just so happened to give a concert the day before in NY. So, if he knew something, he could've just warned people then right? Possibly....but the people behind 9/11 aren't bullies in a schoolyard....they are capable and willing to kill thousands without hesitation. Being 'threatened' over a whole bunch of things can go a long way in keeping people from talking. Many said Mike 'looked off' that night while performing....could just be another coincidence. Also, it's probably just another coincidence that he stopped touring in 1997. IF Mike knew or suspected anything about 9/11...I would bet that he did all he could to try to warn people, or at least to let 'them' know that he sees through their 'games' (it wouldn't be the first time he's done either). IF this is the case...the thought of him reading some comments here make me wince....they are like a slap in his face. "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." -- Albert Einstein I'd rather be way off base in investigating something....than to be ignorant. @Sim, MJonmind, UYI & Jam4truth...brilliant posts all around :icon_razz: With L.O.V.E. always.
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« on: December 06, 2012, 12:10:05 PM »
I hear ya bec....I've set it up in my mind too as a sort of deadline. Of course, I'm praying something happens...but even if it doesn't, I know Mike's alive and I'm grateful for TS' excellent guidance along the way. We've all learned SO much...no matter what happens or doesn't happen, I will forever be thankful for having had the experience.
But damn...I want a BAM!!!!! :icon_lol:
With L.O.V.E. always.
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« on: December 06, 2012, 11:14:34 AM »
Actually, this is investigation...it's about investigating the possible 'why's' of the hoax. All investigation involves speculation...there'd be no need to investigate anything if all answers were known. 90+% of what we've done here for 3 1/2 years revolves around speculation.
This may not interest some or some might not agree with this line of investigation...and that's great, different/opposing views have greatly helped expand the mind throughout this whole thing...and, as always, everyone is free to skip it if not interested. IMO, we have definite reason to investigate this 'angle' based on many clues from Mike himself pre-June 25th (in his lyrics, movies, interviews, paintings, artwork, etc)...and also after his 'death' (topics brought up by TS, tweets from Paris and other Jacksons, topics raised by LaToya, Jermaine, and others in their books, interviews etc). So, while speculation is inevitable, there is undeniable evidence (NOT speculation) warranting this topic of convo/research as it could very well explain the 'why's' of the hoax.
I'm enjoying it :icon_razz:
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« on: December 06, 2012, 08:59:35 AM »
Further to UYI's explanation, there's lots of info in this 'e-book' You are not allowed to view links.
Register or Login...Mike is discussed/highlighted in it a few times. Some relevant quotes: What is Freemasonry?
Freemasonry is a secret order that has existed for hundreds, arguably thousands, of years and is now operating in most every country in the world.Masonry promotes itself as a philanthropic club for men of morals and they perpetuate this image through members of the first three “Blue degrees.” 97% of all Masons fall into this category and they are often upstanding citizens, pillars of the community who truly are charitable and benevolent. However, the higher degrees, the inner-circle of World Freemasonry, use the society’s influence to advance an agenda of global control.
“Although the brotherhood of Masonry appears to be relatively new, it is in reality the oldest continuous network on the planet, dating back many thousands of years, beginning when stones were first dressed. Masonry today has a generally sinister reputation, because the people suspect that this powerful brotherhood has been manipulating and exploiting them. However, the average Mason has never been ‘in the know’ and is, therefore, merely a member of a social club. Nevertheless, the higher-ups have indeed had their hand in creation on this planet on a large scale for a long time … The Masons are there, perpetually hidden behind the scenes, leaving clues to their existence as a brotherhood, some of which are evident yet still not seen.”
“The conspiracy to create a centralized global fascist state is orchestrated in the five-sense'world' by a secret network known collectively as the Illuminati or 'Illuminated ones'. They manipulate through secret societies and groupings like the Freemasons, Knights of Malta, Knights Templar and the Jesuits. These and others feed carefully chosen recruits into the Illuminati and they are installed in positions of power throughout the world, infesting all colors, races, creeds and countries. It is not that everyone in the secret societies is aware of the plot; the overwhelming majority are not. The Illuminati operate like a cancer to infiltrate and covertly control other organizations. Most Freemasons never progress higher than the bottom three levels of degree, the so-called Blue Degrees and they don't realize what their organization is being used for.”
None of this is 'fiction'....there is a TON of documented evidence that these 'secret societies' exist...and have existed for a very long time. There are also MANY signs/clues BOTH prior to June 25th and after, that Mike was WELL aware of them and may have also been a member (clothing, pins, paintings, symbols, etc). IF there was ever a plan to 'overthrow' the inner-circle (the 'bad' side), the best (and probably only) way to do so would be through infiltration...or, in other words, a sting. Here's another interesting article highlighting "Forest Lawn" and its Masonic ties You are not allowed to view links.
Register or Login...despite all the hoopla of the media circus that will surround Michael Jackson’s final resting place, the cemetery of his choosing is also a quiet memorial to Freemasonry and the brothers who have come this way before.
@Sim & MJonmind...great posts/info :icon_razz: With L.O.V.E. always.
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« on: December 05, 2012, 12:40:32 PM »
Another fact that remains is that these people wouldn't need an actual physical dead body in the ambulance on 6/25/09 to be fooled into believing MJ is dead.
They wouldn't need a trial either but that took place. The corpse, if used, would've been to ensure that the hoax/sting doesn't get blown...and the whole thing would've ended abruptly if anything other than a real body was discovered by anyone who wasn't in the know. But I do get what you're saying about the difficulty in proving the extent of FBI involvement. It's a catch-22 situation....if they are NOT involved in a sting, there won't be any evidence that they are...if they ARE involved in a sting, there won't be any (or hardly any) evidence that they are. With L.O.V.E. always.
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« on: December 05, 2012, 09:53:48 AM »
@Curls...point taken, although IMO we're all assuming things about the FBI. But still, if we 'know' that 'they' all not all 'bad', then I don't see how we can use that to determine whether or not they have any involvement with Mike or the hoax. We still end up with they could be helping Mike or maybe they're not.
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