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Other Odd Things / Re: Four years later, how do you feel?
« on: April 28, 2014, 01:44:51 PM »
I took a lot of distance since few time... maybe that's what helps me to be back here from time to time to says "i'm still here".

All i know is that this story last for too long to be a simple "death". It was strange in the beginning and the fact that it is still going on, IS strange.

I'm still so full of hopes, and full of question and full of "fed-up-ness" lol  I don't know where to start lol  It's like this little song that comes one day in your head, you sing it all day long, you hate it and like it at the same time, and when you think you forgot it, here it comes again to tickle your ears and you start humhumming again.

This hoax cannot leave you alone. No matter what, it's here, it's in everything you see, hear, say.... It comes back any time you enter a shop where MJ's music is playing. It runs at you anytime you see the number 7 adding up somewhere. And you think you're nuts.

It's here all around me, because MJ's is always somewhere in my heart. He keeps knocking gently at my door, reminding me there's nothing i can do about it, to forget about the hoax, forget about him. I look at all those "clues" in my life, making me think MJ is not dead,MJ is someplace i don't know ,yet. I look at it with a smile and i think to myself "Maybe soon, i know you'll do that in your own time, as you always did" and i try to get back to everyday stuff.


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After abusing kids, now abusing pets... is there anything media didn't poo on about MJ's life ?

I don't believe in this story. Now i remember MJ saying a chimp is a very strong animal and can beat you very hard, even kill you. So i don't doubt there is a need to show a "alpha male image" in front of such a pet. Bubble had no other social relations outside MJ and other human beings, so i guess he surely tried to dominate some of them, to climb hierarchy in his "group". And you surely cannot let a chimp do such if you don't wish to live under his law. No matter how sweet he can be, he remains a dangerous animal with "natural instinct".

Maybe people around MJ misunderstood some of MJ's behaviour toward Bubbles and used it to spread rumors.

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TMZ Articles / Re: Debbie Rowe HaHaHaHa!!! I'm Not Engaged
« on: April 08, 2014, 12:39:51 PM »
I'm not native english talking but i think present tense is because it's an expression.

I think it is TMZ's words, not Debbie.

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I really wish her well, but honestly, she might just not talk about being scared about propofol when she's supposed to be the one who gave some to MJ for years...  I mean, she obviously talk about propofol because of MJ, and yet it puts her in a dangerous position because she's been part of this addiction. I don't understand why she mentions it.


*just sayin' *

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I've seen this video but didn't have time ti actually study it.

I noticed the reference to Jesus / Gandhi and MJ

Jesus : Dead then resurrected

Gandhi : Resurrection in "new lives" (i forget my english vocabulary, sorry)

MJ : then WHY associate MJ to this 2 men ? if not for some idea of being alive after being dead.... :icon_e_surprised:

Further more she seems to take them "out of their grave"...


Dear Miss I-GIVE-BIG-CLUE-Lady-Gaga,

Further to your video, you have left us, MJ believers, very surprised.
Would you please express your mind more clearly about this interesting video of yours in which you seem to pretend MJ could have a life after death ?
We are available on MJDHI, please feel free to come and post.
We are looking forward to your explanation,
Yours Faithfully/Best Regards and blablabla


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Revisiting Old Stuff / Re: Why are you still watching?
« on: April 07, 2014, 06:04:11 PM »
I'm still watching... no as much as i'd like, but i try to.
I must say i've been quite disappointed by some "fan's war"(in which there was no Han Solo, damn it !) on forums or FB... and i was also disappointed by many things about MJ and his fam and his life and all the things we never knew, never were told... I was feeling like a stranger to all this, like : "why the F*** am i a fan of "all this ?"

i mean, i'm not a fan of trials, of fan's arguing, of MJ worshipping, of trashmedia reading... it's everything i hate about MJ's world (yes i said i hate MJ's fan, so what ?) My only hope in all this is to see MJ alive and dream i can sit some day on a bench with him, share few words.
I know i gotta go THROUGH this to try find about what MJ is trying to tell us, try to show us. Just sometime it's like an overdose and i feel this huge need to escape from this whole bunch of nuts and say "HEY, where's my life ? Where are the random stuff i used to do before i logged on MJDHI ? Did i ever had a life before that ?" lol

All i mean is that i REALLY try hard to keep a balance between "Where is MJ" and "My personnal life which is rather fun too"

I'm very busy right now with the shelter, trying to help animals, trying to raise money, trying to get things done and keep it alive. I also must cope with a full time job that allows me not to live on an empty fridge. Those are my choices in life, and sometime i must choose "do i spend time on FB to get some pets adopted, or do i spend time on MJDHI to get the news about Michael". I admit Michael comes second, even sometime third, and i guess even if he was THERE, he wouldn't be first (OMG that must be true, it's terrible lol)

I'm proud of this choice because nothing's more important to me than saving a pet's life, but sometime i feel ashamed not to find time for everything. So sometime i come and i write a lot here, trying to say i'm still here, that there's not a single day i don't think about Michael. I stay away too far, i'm lost with all the things i didn't see or investigated, and in the end, i don't know if that's much necessary for me to know about "everything".

I just hope MJ knows, somehow, that i care.

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Yes, it's almost 5 years now... i can't even think about it being real. I mean, if someone told me i'd be in this for 5 years...i would have laugh so hard. But yes, here we are, here i am.

I guess only love can stick for so long, upon nothing almost, few shadows seen here and there, and this crazy hope to finally see "that someone" soon again.

Or maybe we're all nuts, or maybe neither of you exist and i'm alone in my padded cell, living in a fantasy since my brain lost it after june 25th...(which would sound sometime like a good explanation lol)

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This picture make me think of saturn's rings

Saturn has SEVEN rings



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Now we all know that we know nothing... it would be great if "someone" could set a little bit of TRUTH in this story.

It's a thing to play mind games, educate, and "take over" the world, But sometime, it is nice to just share some simple moments, with nothing back of your mind, and no fear to be manipulated.

I wished something like this existed in MJ's world/community, but the more i stay here, the more i feel unsecured and tired of being careful and doubtful, always wondering about what i read/see, always wondering who's playing tricks on me, who to believe.

I don't feel out of patience, or angry, just i'm sad to be always realise there was something fake or fishy in what i was told.

This might explain i take distance about all this hoax. I guess this way of life is not for me.

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Oprah Winfrey / Re: Michael Jackson - Oprah Interview Outtakes (1 & 3)
« on: February 13, 2014, 02:12:16 PM »
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On the other hand, it is a professionnal meeting, seem to be late at night, he has his friend Liz and Debbie is there. Back then he had no kids (or so we're said...) so i don't quite see why he would have his fam around for such moment. It is work, and you can see one of his room is crowded with photograph and people from the show. I guess it's not the time to call your fam for some cookies around the fire.

Now i agree about the family who only has pictures of MJ until Bad Era. This always made me feel uncomfortable, because i don't quite understand why someone wouldn't have recent pictures of a fam member, when you can pick any picture on the internet and print it. I've been wondering if that was not a wish from MJ himself. Because i can't believe his fam would refuse to see him the way he looks.

I don't quite believe in the "2 MJ" theory for now, but from this video, it seems we know nothing about the man.

I don't really like to start with those theories because it hurts me to think maybe all this is an illusion and it makes me wonder who i loved and supported since decades... maybe "noone", some illusion of someone that never existed for real. I don't like to have this thoughts. Though they might be true.

Why we know nothing about the man? To me he seems the same man as always, shy, sweet, loving and caring, I never saw somebody different or two different MJ that's a crazy idea. I don't see anything strange in his behaviour that makes me think he is not the usual MJ.

I didn't say he is "different". I said we don't know. Because when you see this video, you see Debbie with Liz when she said they never met, you see a baby that "seem" to be Debbie's while we are in 1993. I mean all such fact just let me think we have no idea what really happened in MJ's life and it makes it more difficult to understand about the causes and consequences, about relations between people, that could help us understand about this hoax.

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TMZ Articles / Re: Michael Jackson Estate -- The IRS Is Off the Wall
« on: February 11, 2014, 12:36:46 PM »
1 / i wish the Estate to deal with my tax too !
2/ TMZ sources always have "things to say"
3/ If MJ is such low price, i suggest everyone sends me a dolar, so i can afford the man   :icon_mrgreen:

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Oprah Winfrey / Re: Michael Jackson - Oprah Interview Outtakes (1 & 3)
« on: February 11, 2014, 12:18:06 PM »
On the other hand, it is a professionnal meeting, seem to be late at night, he has his friend Liz and Debbie is there. Back then he had no kids (or so we're said...) so i don't quite see why he would have his fam around for such moment. It is work, and you can see one of his room is crowded with photograph and people from the show. I guess it's not the time to call your fam for some cookies around the fire.

Now i agree about the family who only has pictures of MJ until Bad Era. This always made me feel uncomfortable, because i don't quite understand why someone wouldn't have recent pictures of a fam member, when you can pick any picture on the internet and print it. I've been wondering if that was not a wish from MJ himself. Because i can't believe his fam would refuse to see him the way he looks.

I don't quite believe in the "2 MJ" theory for now, but from this video, it seems we know nothing about the man.

I don't really like to start with those theories because it hurts me to think maybe all this is an illusion and it makes me wonder who i loved and supported since decades... maybe "noone", some illusion of someone that never existed for real. I don't like to have this thoughts. Though they might be true.

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With all due respect, people who forget to take their pills shouldn't post on the forum.

I've been reading what Anonimous wrote. This bunch of conspiracy theories presented as facts "without a need to explain" as you said several times in your post.

I'm sorry that i am not the 05% or the 1 in a 10 000 000  persons to find out about liers and death hoaxers... so i'll just keep swimming in my stupidness.

High selfestime, and no proof only leads me to paranoid conspiracy obsessed profil. Sorry to say.

Better be back with something to chew on.

But still with all due respect  :icon_mrgreen:

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i don't know if it was asked before but i have keyboard freeze on this forum. My keyboard works perfectly any other place but here. it freezes and i cannot type and i have to wait for few seconds between 2 words... kinda strange...

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Revisiting Old Stuff / Re: Why are you still watching?
« on: January 13, 2014, 03:55:15 PM »
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@whatyourheartsays, I'm sure what you say comes from a good place in your heart, but the 'love' you speak of risks being interpreted as indifference especially in the face of bec's obvious caring.  Surely if you say you love someone, you don't just sit back and accept any and every (bad) thing that happens around them, saying oh well, I love him, so everything's ok.  With all due respect everything is not ok (for the reasons bec outlined).

But bec, I have to ask you - does a comeback and/or hoax revelation necessarily equal righting of these wrongs?

We have no idea if MJ really plans to wash his image by a huge bam or if he moved on and  made decision for himself, to set a new way of life, out of public eye. Starting from this, i see no point in being angry or happy about facts that are happening or not happening.
If i ever knew MJ, knew what was really going on in his life, knew his deep feelings about it, sure i wouldn't be "still". Just i think it is useless to suffer a pain that maybe is not needed or enjoy a happiness that has no real reason to be.

Of course i feel some injustice about how peoople see MJ, but do i have to feel more injustice than MJ himself ? i don't think so.
If MJ would have ever shared this with me, my feelings would be different but for now i don't feel it is my place to have feelings (whether good or bad) about facts that are not part of my life and facts i don't even know to be "true" or "not". I still ignore the real reasons for the hoax and everything that come with. As a personnal opinion, i'm of course very upset about him "missing" without a word.

Just i'm not able to make decision and choose a side for things/facts that are not mine. It doesn't mean i would do nothing i was told the truth. Just for now i know that i know nothing, so what else can i do ? when you can be "up and down" i choosed to have a sit on the bench and wait.

i hope to be clear, it's not easy to explain.

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