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« on: June 22, 2014, 10:18:44 AM »
I'm waiting for delivery of the book (my bf offered it to me)
I'm mixed about what's written on this post. I mean, you can either think it's true and sad, or think it's staged and consider it is impossible for MJ to live this way.
But how can WE, give it NO DOUBT ?
I mean, if we deny it all, think it's part of the hoax, think it's fake and staged, that MJ never had any issue to go out and enjoy his family life, then where is our COMPASSION ? Where is our ability to listen and trust, to CARE ?
I don't know if what i will read will be true or false, all i know is that i will read it with an open heart, trying to consider about what pain Michael was in.
Anyway, if this book is not 100% true, and if it's only out on some purpose, what would be the point of telling such things, if not to try speak out for someone who can't speak for now.
Since he is dead, it sounds like MJ is "fashion", there is no problem, not even the fact that he is "dead", because after all, he keep selling discs, and making money. But behind this, i think there is a man, maybe willing to return in a different way, or maybe wondering about his image 5 years later...
I don't know, i think this book is interesting because it could have been out sooner than that (to sell even more) so why now, why when MJ is becoming an icon again, with a new album Xscape, why get this book out, this book that makes him "only human".
I feel there must be some will behind this book.
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« on: June 04, 2014, 03:13:46 PM »
I was talking about being Michael Jackson, the BRAND. Of course he will always be himself. I just think he must have been 100% fed up with being what people/business expected from him. He is tied to this because this all business is about him, it has his name on it, and anywhere he goes, people see "Michael Jackson" the brand, not only the man.
Sorry i cannot actually explain, but i was just saying it felt like being prisoner of yourself, because your "self" almost don't belong to you anymore. In this way, i said he maybe didn't want to be MJ anymore.
what would be wrong with that ? He said it many times : becoming anonymous includes "not being MJ". And he often said he's like to be anonymous, to run a normal life with his kids.
we were talking about reasons for not coming back.
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« on: June 03, 2014, 12:48:31 PM »
The more i think about it, the less i think he will be back. I don't consider legal issues, or saving the world or fighting evil, prooving the media wrong or blablabla.
Michael did eveything, went everywhere, he went from the deepest despair to the highest joy, i don't see any reason he'd have to proove anything to anyone, or fight for some cause when he did that all his life.
From what i see now, it appears that if MJ is alive, he is fully able to run his business, enjoy his kids and spend his time on his art and passion. What we are given since 2009, music, art, entertainment, comes from him already ! Is there a NEED for him to be back ? i don't think so.
I also told myself that maybe he sold the whole "Michael Jackson" stuff to Sony (i still stick to my first theory about the biggest music industry deal EVER, including his last months, his death, and all albums to comes" because ACTUALLY, i think he didn't want to be MJ anymore. Maybe there was a plan for a come back, but maybe being dead offered him some freedom he never had and he maybe thought "after all, i might never be back, anyway, people already think i'm dead"
Maybe he let go about all this.
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« on: June 02, 2014, 05:05:59 PM »
welcome 
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« on: June 02, 2014, 04:10:58 PM »
I wish MJ was blue as a smurf so you all guys had a good reason to talk about his skin color :icon_rolleyes:
And someone needs to remove those pictures, because, NOW i can't sleep anymore ...
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« on: June 02, 2014, 04:02:19 PM »
This part about MJ not being able to be the dad he wanted is disturbing.
Maybe it's not "fans" in a general way, but at least stalkers and media... But i think the life he had "because of" fans, sure includes "fans" in general.
I don't know if this would have been possible for MJ to be "random" + run his professionnal life. He built such an image of "uniqueness" about being the "king of pop" that people even forgot he could be some random dude aside from this, apart from all this smoke and mirrors and glitter and everything that goes around. It's very difficult to go from such state to "hello, i'll have 1 bread and 2 croissant please" on sunday morning's bakery.
Sometime i wonder what such world would have looked like : i mean, such famous MJ, with all the crazyness he created around him, and when on street, being considered as a normal guy. it's like hoping your celebrity is only a 9 to 5 job and you can be free after a good day of work.
I guess any of us wished we could offer this to Michael... it's only a matter of behaviour. I never thought i'd go yell under his hotel, or run after his car, or try grab him among a crowd. I always feel ashamed when i see people do this, when i see paparazzi around, like bees around honey. It hurts me cause it's about taking his freedom away from him, whatever he was doing at the moment they saw him.
Just this little apart about him not feeling 100% dad because of it, is a great matter of sadness for me...i wish i could have fix this, and i hope he found a way. i really do hope so.
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« on: June 01, 2014, 03:49:39 PM »
i showed the video to my bf who is very gifted to recognise people : he said it could be the same person, but he said he wouldn't be surprised that someone would have a small acting job for money. Do we have the name of this actor ? Can he be spotted in other movies ? Do we know what Murray actually did when he was young ?
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« on: May 29, 2014, 04:26:54 PM »
I'm back with something
7th july 2002 = MJ's WILL
There are 2545 days between july 7th 2002 and june 25th 2009
If you add 2545 days to june 25th 2009, it leads to june 13th 2016
June 13 = MJ NOT GUILTY (2005 trial)
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« on: May 08, 2014, 05:04:48 AM »
Are we actually losing our heads studying stock market's number to try find a Bam's day includind number 7, just because some random anonymous person showed up with a big yellow bam on his post, maybe just because he hasn't much more interesting things to do in his life ?
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« on: May 07, 2014, 05:49:49 PM »
I'm on the crazyness road :
If the hoax was in planning since 2002, was Bashir in 2003 + trial an attempt to stop his plans right after they were discovered ?
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« on: May 07, 2014, 05:46:38 PM »
Let's do some storm in my brain (which is already quite messy)
if we're in a "mirror illusion", the time of "hoaxing" should be equal to the time of illusion before hoax, considering death is THE MOMENT... but how do we find the beginning in ending ? We already know it's 5 years since the X moment (25th june) where illusions twisted. So we can at least search 5 years before 2009, which leads to 2004. This would mean the trial was part of the illusion, of the lies about MJ. Maybe go back 7 years before 2009 and this would mean hoax would end 7 years after ?
in 2002 : Blanket was born, MJ was dad for 3rd time. Was it the moment he choosed to prepare a new start for his life ? he disappeared when his boy was 7. Maybe end the hoax when his boy is 14 ?
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« on: May 07, 2014, 05:30:33 PM »
I don't wish to rain on the party, but i truly think that grown up adults in a family that has so many issues and argues and trials and contracts and God knows whatelse including money, DO HAVE words about each others. I believe Jermaine could say so about MJ, and i believe MJ could say so about his family. I don't say i'm right or wrong, i just see what this people "do", the way the act, and sometime, i don't see any LOVE. So how could this be part of the Hoax... I don't mean they hate each other. I just say everything is not black or white (lol)
We don't know who may be in the know, and in what way. Anyway, being in the know surely may not change what people think deep inside. Maybe Jermaine knows MJ is alive, yet he thinks MJ would have been nothing without the J5. He may be part of the hoax as a character, under a contract signed with MJ.
Such deal wouldn't include the lines "Jermaine must kiss my *** in every words he says about me"
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« on: April 28, 2014, 03:43:24 PM »
And so say Joe all the time too.... i mean he doesn't say it as clear but anytime i heard Joe talking about his son Michael, he always referred to "Michael, and his brothers" as if he never actually recognised any self made success in MJ's work.
Why are we so surprised now that those words are in Jermaine's mouth. I guess Michael knows about this cause i think he heard it about a thousand time in private (jsut my opinion OF COURSE)
This is nothing NEW, and i don't quite get they do a whole story with it...
Like everybody moved on, and TMZ is only launching on "MJ's Moon"
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« on: April 28, 2014, 03:38:40 PM »
40 years ago, my grandma knitted a blanket that looks exactly like Tito's jacket. That's quite disturbing.
*don't have much interesting things to say about this topic. Is there anything stupid that was said by someone else than Jermaine, anyway ? Slippy-Lips opens it all the time and we just need to figure out if it's for the best or not.*
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« on: April 28, 2014, 02:11:15 PM »
I don't think we're in the illusion period still... We got out of it in 2009, since MJ started to expose everything that WAS illusion. Believers we can consider the Death Hoax is an illusion, but i think it is more like the end of another illusion, the one that was playing in MJ's life.
It's like the image is now reflected. One illusion is ended to set place to another one. One illusion ends the other, like a mirror.
It is made so that you don't know what side is the reality, and what side is the illusion. Is the Death an illusion, or was it the events that happen before ?
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