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Others / Debra Willis talks about her friendship with Michael Jackson
« on: October 10, 2018, 09:49:57 AM »
I believe every word she said. BeeGees fans are never crazy. Worth the watch.

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Michael Jackson More Music Coming From King Of Pop?!? ... Sadly, No
10/7/2018 12:50 AM PDT



Michael Jackson fans could soon be moonwalking to a whole lotta new songs -- at least that's the hope --  'cause the late singer's estate is renewing it's logo for tons of merch, and the hope among fans is that it could be the prequel to a possible release of new tunes!!!

According to docs obtained by TMZ ... Michael's merch firm, Triumph International, recently filed renewal paperwork for its logo -- an interlocking MJ with a crown on top -- so they can continue to splash it over phone accessories, merch, CD cases and ... music recordings!

It's got us thinking ... is the King Of Pop's estate preparing to open MJ's music vault? Because that would be so, so awesome!  Sadly, our sources say no new music is being released because the vault is empty.

Still, the merch lives on.

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Others / Teddy Perkins - Analysis (Teddy and Benny faked their deaths)
« on: September 27, 2018, 10:10:43 PM »
Ok, so I have been dying to do a post about Teddy Perkins. I can't believe I haven't seen this show back in April when it aired. I only learned about it when Teddy was spotted at the Emmys and someone told me to watch the episode because it was so interesting, so of course I did!

And I was so intrigued by this episode that I watched it like 4 or 5 times now and I will probably watch it a few more times. I think it's a masterpiece. It's complicated, it's extreme and to me it screams Michael. It has different layers as well, which is confirmed by the numerous theories out there about the meaning of the show.

At the end there was a huge surprise for me because it actually implies something I have been saying for a decade and I was surprised this theory popped up here in this episode.

Teddy Perkins is supposedly loosely based on Michael Jackson, but when you watch the episode closely you will actually notice that they even used a picture of Michael in this episode and that there are all kind of little details that will tell you this is not just loosely based on Michael Jackson but that whoever made this, wanted you to think it's Michael Jackson.

I have seen some people say that it's disrespectful to Michael, but I think that whoever says that might not have even the slightest idea who Michael is or what he went through in life and how he dealt with stuff. But that of course is just my opinion.

I will just post some clips and comment in between. It's my own interpretation and I'd really like some input from you guys so please leave your thoughts and theories in the comments, I'd love to read them.

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The parallels between Michael and Teddy are quite obvious here. Teddy is rich, lives in a big mansion on a gated property, is very soft spoken and the makers clearly made his appearance Michael-like. He is a bit awkward and weird, which is exactly how Michael was viewed later in life. Teddy also says how he loves Stevie Wonder and how 'Music of my Mind' was a masterpiece. Michael loved Stevie and called him a master.

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Ok, so that was utterly disgusting. Interesting details though in this part. On the table you can see a glass of what appears to be red wine, even though Teddy asks Darius if he would like some water. Red wine symbolizes life, plus we know that Michael loved his red wine.

There seems to be a deeper, symbolic meaning to this egg and the way Teddy handles it. 

He calls the egg an 'owl's casket'. The owl is symbolic for wisdom and knowledge. The casket implies that knowledge is dead or buried. The ostrich was thought of a symbol for truth and purity by the ancient Egyptians. An egg is symbol for fertility or life.

Michael's life was filled with symbolism and since I believe he has had at least a finger in this episode (no pun intended), I believe this scene is important.

The egg symbolizes Michael Jackson's life itself and inside of the egg is knowledge and truth about him but the hard shell makes it impossible for other people to acquire that knowledge and put their finger on the truth.

Teddy first cracks the shell, which could be symbolic for the clues he has left in his life. Small clues that hardly anyone really understood hidden in his lyrics for example.

Then Teddy takes off the top of the egg, letting the egg white, or knowledge, flow out. This might refer to the past 9 years, where lots of new things came to light and lots of things were discovered about Michael's life. But this was just the top of the iceberg, or egg in this case.

Teddy then digs into the egg, taking something out of the core of it, most likely the egg yolk. And I know that the yolk is not the actual ostrich, but it's close enough, pulling out even a baby ostrich would have been slightly difficult. Could this symbolize that Teddy, who clearly is supposed to be Michael, is going to reveal some unknown truth? A secret? And judging by the size of the egg, which seems to be big even for an ostrich egg, maybe a big secret?

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Piano being symbolic for Michael's music, which others seem to control because Teddy didn't even know who put it up the board. The 'audio-visual woman' Teddy refers to might be symbolic for Sony or the music industry in general, as they control the artists once they're signed. The piano being given away for free might be symbolic for the theft Michael spoke out about by the music industry, leaving the artists broke while making billions themselves.

The conversation they have then about Rap music shows the perfectionist that Teddy is and how he views music as an art form. When Darius mentions rap, Teddy says that's a 'funny' one. Teddy thinks rap is not sufficient as an art form and doesn't seem to agree with Darius that you sometimes should just have some fun. I might be grasping at straws here but this reminded me of what Michael said about Eminem's disrespectful and demeaning mock video. Michael called it elementary and said that he hoped Eminem had fun and agrees with Geraldo that it's like a poo poo joke, after clearly having stated that he did not like what Eminem did. So a 'funny one' that he clearly didn't like. I personally believe Michael likes rap. Probably not so much the popular rap like that of Eminem, but I do think he likes rap. So to me this is a reference to Eminem.

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When Darius tells Teddy he doesn't play but just liked the way it looked, it might mean that people just simply liked Michael's music without ever bothering to actually listen to it, to his lyrics and to these clues slipping out of the cracked egg. People just want entertainment, they don't want to actually understand the artist.

Then Teddy brings up Benny. It's hard to tell here if Benny is really Teddy's brother or that Teddy is actually Benny hiding behind a mask and a bunch of make-up, because when we see the pictures we only see black people. One of the pictures shown is an actual picture of Michael with Chuck Berry where they photo shopped Michael's face to make him look like someone else. Again a very clear sign that this is really about Michael because why else bother?

When Teddy says that Ahmad Jamal complimented Benny, saying that Benny plays "pain" better than anyone, Teddy seems jealous and says that Benny just played what he knew. Earlier also, the way Teddy asks Darius if he knows Benny Hope, seems to have a jealous undertone. When Darius doesn't seem to know who he is, Teddy seems to lighten up a bit. He talks about the people supposedly in the pictures with his brother, as if they are his own friends. Again making the viewer think Teddy might have some split personality.

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When Darius asks Teddy if Benny passed away, Teddy seems a bit disappointed to tell him that Benny is still alive and that he takes care of him. It doesn't look like he is very happy to have him around and having to take care of him. When he explains that Benny has a skin condition that makes him sensitive to sunlight, that that is why the room is so dark and that it's not easy, you get the feeling that Teddy himself is the one with the condition. Benny is nowhere to be found in the room so you would assume he could let in some sunlight when Benny is not in the room. His own pale face only strengthens that theory. Teddy seems to hope that this depressing situation might help them creating a great album one day, a masterpiece. Once more we see that Teddy thinks that music is an art that is not about having fun, but rather that the opposite helps to create the best. Which is honestly true. The most troubled artists have written the best music, just look at Mozart for example.

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So it turns out that Teddy has no butler and seems to be all alone in the mansion and the device he was speaking to was actually a recorder to remind himself of simple tasks. This might indicate Teddy has trouble remembering things. Michael seemed to have issues remembering things as well. His defense lawyer in the case against Marc Schaffel even said Michael was "as forgetful as the famously forgetful Albert Einstein". Also when you look up the interview Michael has with authorities in 2007 that was published by The Sun, there seems to be a whole lot of stuff he simply does not seem to remember. Could have been, might have been, I don't know, etc.

The first message is about finishing a hat for Dionne Warwick. I have no idea what the hat might mean, but we know Michael knew Dionne well and according to Dionne, he even called her 'mom'. The second message tells him he needs to wash his hands, immediately. Michael Jwas reported to have been extremely fearful of germs and contamination, so that might be another clue this whole thing is really about him. I am not sure that was ever true though, since there are numerous pictures of Michael holding all kinds of animals I doubt a person with that phobia would hold. But it was reported and I believe this is more about his public persona than himself. So I'd say definitely another clue.

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Just as Michael's, Teddy's house is full of security camera's. Teddy seems to follow his every move on them. The books in the house seem dusty. Knowing that Michael Jackson read lots of books, that seems to be the only thing off so far. When Darius follows the sound of the piano we see even more pictures that remind us of Michael. One with Clinton and one completely covered in a wheelchair.

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Teddy opens the door before Darius can even knock, clearly confirming that Teddy has been watching with his security camera's. Darius seems suspicious that he can't see Benny or the piano when Teddy says Benny needs some rest. Looking into the room he sees the empty wheelchair behind the piano. It's starting to seem more and more that Benny doesn't exist at all.

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This scene showcases perfectly the ridicule that Michael went through. Being called names, laughed at, ridiculed yet people wanted something from him because they liked it: his music. The reference to Sammy Sosa, who voluntarily bleached his own skin, shows the ignorance of people concerning Michael's vitiligo. With still many people, to this day, believing he didn't want to be black and bleached his own skin even though he went on national television explaining he suffered from vitiligo.

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When Darius enters the room, Teddy makes a picture of him. This is a very interesting clue, maybe one of the most important ones in understanding Michael. When the picture is made, Darius actually freaks out a bit and says he's not a big photo person. Anyone who has seen the 2017 movie 'Get Out' might catch the reference here. Lakeith (who plays Darius), played a mind controlled slave in the movie 'Get Out'. When a picture is taken of him with flash, he glitches out of his mind controlled state and warns the guy about to be sucked into this evil shit to 'Get Out' while he still can. He is then taken inside to be 'reprogrammed' back into his mind controlled state. Teddy, who is representing Michael, is flashing Darius, who is representing the ignorant public that is being mind controlled by media and television as we have seen in the previous scene. In my opinion implying that Michael is trying to get the public out of their zombie like state, back into using their heads. What I didn't figure out is why Darius is shown on the picture making an X in front of his head with his arm while we can see in the scene he never lifts his arms that way. If you have an idea, please share!

The merchandise with the young Michael Jackson lookalike on it should have every Michael Jackson fan raise at least one eyebrow. Just like there are plans to turn Neverland into a museum, Teddy wants to turn their mansion into a museum. He is actually excited to show Darius his stuff and tells him he can take anything he likes. Michael is known for giving stuff away for free to people who like his stuff. But Darius only sees Teddy's weirdness and not his kindness. He wants to get the hell out of there. In a last attempt Teddy asks him to please go with him because he wants to show him something. It's like Michael saying "I promise you that you can have my music, but please hear me out first. And I can't help but wonder if those are Oscars in the cabinet...

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I find this scene heartbreaking. Teddy opens up to Darius by explaining to him what happened when he and his brother (who we still haven't seen yet by the way) were just little kids. Hours a day of practice and physical punishment if they didn't do well enough. To me it is no coincidence Joe Jackson is named first, before the other fathers who sacrificed their children. When I listen to Teddy I hear him say "my father; Joe Jackson and not "my father, Joe Jackson". I have seen theories about this scene online where people speculate that Teddy is actually the father and Benny the son. They claim that Teddy is glorifying himself as the father and is trying to seek validation from Darius in that way. But I do not hear Teddy say that his father was a good father, or that it was right what his father did. Or that he is happy that his father did all that to him. All Teddy says is that as a result of his father beating him and his brother, pushing them to be the best (not only at music, but at life, they have all that fame and fortune. He says he is not mad at his father, because as a child he could not understand why his father did what he did, but as an adult he understands that his father wanted the best for him. He does not condone his methods. He actually says his father sacrificed them, which can hardly be called positive. When you listen to Michael during his Oxford speech in 2001, you can hear him say the same in different wording. As an adult and being a father himself, he understands his father. While Teddy is trying to explain, Darius gets impatient and loses interest in the rest of Teddy's story. That is similar to what happened to Michael, the public would hear him out on his father's abuse, have all kinds of opinions on it and would go back to the music, without really listening and understanding or willing to dig a little deeper. Teddy looks disappointed Darius cuts off his story and seems to accept that Darius just wants the piano.

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Darius might feel bad for being so impatient with Teddy as he sees Teddy's disappointment. He tries to be understanding but for Teddy that is too late. "No you don't!" He shouts at him, clearly upset. Darius can't imagine at all because he didn't want to understand, didn't want to take the time to listen to Teddy, so for Teddy this sudden sympathy is phony. He is mad at Darius as can be seen when he hits the piano as he walks out of the room. He is genuinely angry with Darius for not wanting to listen to the full story. This is what Michael must have felt when the public, his fans were not interested in really listening to his message, his story.

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Darius can't wait to get away with the piano. The elevator takes him to the mansion's basement though and will not go back up so he is forced to take a peek. in that basement where he finds wheelchair bound Benny. We can't see Teddy anymore though and Benny seems to be wearing the same outfit as Teddy, only he is wearing a mask and a hat so his face is concealed. According to Benny, Teddy will kill them both so Darius needs to go get a gun from the attic. Darius asks why Benny won't get it himself and Benny obviously points towards his wheelchair and Darius walks off.

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Darius wants to get the hell out of this shit and takes the piano outside. But Teddy sabotaged him by parking his car right behind his truck, making it impossible for him to leave. Darius is forced to go to Teddy to ask him to move his car. On his way up he brings one of the pokers he finds right at the fireplace.

Upstairs he finds Teddy watching an old home videos, a nice reference to Michael's home video series if you ask me. Teddy seemed to have cooled off a bit and asks Darius what's wrong. Darius brings up the car. Teddy asks then if there is anything else, and Darius asks where the bathroom is. It's like Teddy wanted to give him one last chance to ask about Teddy's story, but he realizes Darius is not interested. He tells him where the bathroom is: right next to the attic where Teddy already found the gun which he aims at Darius. He congratulates Darius because he chose Darius to be his sacrifice. He tells Darius to put his phone on the ground but to keep the poker because he wants it to look like a home invasion by an obsessed fan of Benny's who killed him. Darius says that there is no fucking Benny and Teddy confirms that, twice, leaving the viewer to think that Teddy indeed has a split personality.

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They walk back downstairs and Teddy lets Darius sit down in one of the 2 chairs next to the fireplace and lets him cuff himself, ankles and wrists. Teddy then puts his gun down. In a last attempt Darius tries to connect with Teddy, says that not all great things come from great pain, sometimes it's love. And that not everything is a sacrifice. Teddy tells him that sacrifices are necessary. Darius says his dad should have said sorry, and that he is sorry. He then tells Teddy about his own daddy issues and how he thought that was ok when he was a kid but that it's not an excuse to grow up and repeat the same shit over and over. Asks Teddy what if he would have been great at something else, or would have seen love, instead of all the other shit like Stevie Wonder. Teddy says that Stevie had his own sacrifices, that he was blind and Darius then says that Stevie saw through his music. Teddy says that's beautiful, but wrong.

Then they hear the elevator come up and lo and behold, Benny comes out in a bloody white shirt. So there was a brother after all! Benny then grabs the gun that Teddy put down, shoots Teddy and wheels over to Darius, who is now apologizing to Benny for what he went through. Benny points to the poker that Darius still has with him and then uses the poker to shoot himself through the head with the shotgun.

The last scene shows Darius in his truck looking back at the authorities taking both the bodies and the piano out of the house. For the first time he seems genuinely upset about all he had witnessed. Stevie Wonder's 'Evil' ends the episode.



My theory about Teddy Perkins is this:

1.   Teddy Perkins and Benny Hope do not exist.
2.   Teddy has vitiligo, not Benny.
3.   Benny is a burn victim.
4.   Both of them were equally famous.
5.   Teddy is Michael Jackson.
6.   Benny is also Michael Jackson.
7.   Neither of them died.

Let me try to explain…

1.   Teddy Perkins and Benny Hope do not exist.
Teddy claims that his brother Benny Hope is THE famous pianist. And he isn’t just claiming it, he has receipts. The whole house is full of pictures of Benny with famous musicians and even Bill Clinton. Yet Darius seems to have no idea who Teddy is talking about, but he does recognize all the others in the pictured. Darius does not seem to recognize Teddy either. Later on Darius even says that there is ‘no fucking Benny Hope’ which Teddy confirms….twice! Now you can say that Teddy said that because he thought that he had killed Benny and therefor there was no Benny Hope anymore. I’ll come back to that later. But if benny would have been so famous that he would have a need to turn his mansion in a museum, have all this merchandise and all these famous friends then you would assume Darius would have recognized something. But he doesn’t. Teddy Perkins and Benny Hope are aliases, they do not exist.

2.   Teddy has vitiligo, not Benny.
Not Benny, but Teddy is the one who has the rare skin condition that makes him sensitive to light. Teddy is downstairs where the windows are covered and has a very pale complexion. If Benny is upstairs and Teddy is not sensitive to sunlight, then why is he still sitting there with the windows covered. You would think he would just open the curtains for a little while as long as Benny is not around, certainly when he has a guest.

3.   Benny is a burn victim
When we meet Benny he is wearing a mask and a hat. If the windows are already covered everywhere in the house, then why would he need to wear a mask? Not just that, the mask Benny is wearing is not just a regular face mask, it is a compression mask that is used for burn victims. After Michael’s hair caught fire during the filming of the Pepsi commercial, he lost a big chunk of skin on his head as can be seen on pictures that were released. To be able to stretch the skin so that the wound could close better, Michael has had so called balloons under his skin. Because of that, he wore a similar hat in white to cover that up for a while.


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4.   Both of them were equally famous.
The show suggests that Benny was the big celebrity while Teddy was just his brother taking care of him. But the details tell a different story. Teddy makes a hat for Dionne Warwick and seems to be friends with Stevie Wonder so we have to ask ourselves if he is really just some unknown brother. It is also clear that their father sacrificed BOTH of them, that they BOTH had to practice that much. ‘Because of him WE have all of this.’ Is what Teddy says. Nowhere in the episode does it seem like only Benny was the artist.

5.   Teddy is Michael Jackson.
As we have already established that ‘Teddy Perkins’ does not exist, then who is it? Because Joe Jackson is mentioned in the episode, we know for a fact that Darius is living in the same universe as we, and that Michael Jackson is real in his world. All the signs point to him being Michael, even the smallest details, his friends, his hunchback, his troubled past, his vitiligo and even his loafers. But now who would Darius not recognize Michael Jackson? Because Teddy wears a prosthetic mask, it’s simple as that. Michael’s way of disguising himself.

6.   Benny is also Michael Jackson.
Yes. Benny is also Michael Jackson. Benny is the secret brother. The other Michael Jackson. The one that has not been seen for a while. He looks like “The Invisible Man” for a reason. Benny and Teddy wear the exact same clothes, have the same hair, the same loafers. Benny is the Michael that has the Pepsi burn, which is why he is wearing the compression mask. Of course his face was not burned but it’s to make it more obvious. Remember the autopsy report: it listed vitiligo but NO SCAR from the Pepsi burn. The Pepsi burn happen January 27th, 1984. Yet on February 7th, 1984 we see Michael (Teddy) up and about at the New York Metropolitan Museum of Natural History to receive awards from CBS and ’The Guinness Book Of World Records’.
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7.   Neither of them died.
The clue to this can be found when Teddy suddenly opens the door when Darius walks upstairs after hearing the piano play. Watch that again after reading the following.
The piano keeps playing until the moment the door opens. It would have been impossible for Teddy to have been playing the piano and getting to the door in a nanosecond, but it would also have been impossible for Teddy to stab Benny, get him out of the wheelchair and open the door in that same nanosecond. The only 2 other options are that someone else stabbed Benny and took him out of the wheelchair before Darius peeks in, or Benny was never stabbed and stood up quickly himself to hide from Darius. Since there are no indications whatsoever in the whole episode that there is another person in the mansion, it looks like the latter has to be true. Benny was never stabbed by Teddy and was never wheelchair bound.
Teddy and Benny planned this together from the start to fool Darius (the public). They placed the ad on the message board. It’s why the elevator went to the basement even though Darius clearly pushed 1. We know the elevator works fine because in the end Benny comes out of the elevator that stopped at the first floor. It is why Teddy coincidentally found the gun that Benny told Darius to get. It’s why Darius needed to keep the poker with him, Benny needed it later on. It’s why Teddy let Darius cuff himself, he never intended to kill Darius or set him up to a crime. It’s why Teddy put the gun down and gave Benny enough time to grab it, even though he was warned in time by the sound of the elevator and could have gotten it himself. It is why the wheelchair was empty when Darius peeked in the room. It’s also why the books were dusty, Michael never lived there, the house was rented. And I bet there are way more clues but I’ll keep it at that for now. And yes the shots looked real to Darius. But when you’re shook up like that you don’t see details. So Darius might have missed some movie magic. My mind wonders back off to that cabinet…. Were those Oscars?

Now that would be a big secret, wouldn’t it? Have you seen the size of that egg though…?

Piece by piece by piece…
 
As to give this theory extra credibility, Teddy actually returns in the flesh months later and is seen at the Emmys. Up to this day, no one seem to know who was under the mask. As for the other Teddy, who we see in the actual show, when the episode was filmed, no one knew who was under the mask either. Makes you think, no?

Donald Glover seems to know an awful lot about Michael Jackson. You’d almost build a new conspiracy around THAT!



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Messages to Michael / World Record feasting?
« on: September 23, 2018, 06:10:20 PM »
WTF how long is this feasting going to be?  :Thinking: Going for a world record or what? Time to check back in.  :Clock:

<- my face right now

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Hoax Videos / The Updated Hoax List
« on: September 17, 2018, 12:25:53 PM »
Part 1 | The Coroner's Van(s)

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Answering questions and taking part in the discussion will be non-believer but big time MJ fan Ja Parks and believers Stephen Msnuel, Sandy Moiruik, Sharon Difilippo, Stephanie Tabor, Dein Linden (Fidessah,admin of mjhd.net), Strangerinmoscow without Facebook and myself.

You will be able to ask questions in the live chat but please already post questions (either general questions or questions to one of the participants personally) below so we will have something to start with.

Here is the link to the live stream:

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Michael Jackson ALIVE? King of Pop's death certificate mismatch 'proves he is NOT dead'
MICHAEL Jackson's death is a hoax and the King of Pop is still alive, according to a wild theory circulating online.
By Callum Hoare / Published 1st September 2018

This Wednesday marked 60 years since the "Thriller" singer was born and fans from around the world came together to celebrate.

Jackson passed away on 25 June, 2009, from an overdose of prescription drugs.

But many fans to this day, remain adamant he is still alive, with countless theories doing the rounds online.

But now, just two days after what would have been his 60th birthday, a new video has surfaced that could be a contender for the strongest piece of evidence yet.

According to Jackson's passport, he was given the middle name "Joe" after his father.

But the death certificate used the full spelling of "Joseph".

Though it would seem to just a nickname, a fan reportedly quizzed his sister La Toya on Twitter what he full name was, where she confirmed it was Michael Joe Jackson, but the post has apparently been removed.

Fans around the world are now claiming this is proof his death was faked.

The video footage was uploaded to YouTube, where it has already racked up nearly 60,000 views.

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"Michael Joseph Jackson is dead and Michael Joe Jackson is alive," one claimed.

Another added: "Michael Joe Jackson is not dead – he faked it."

And a third suggested: "Michael Joseph Jackson must be the double of the real King."

The talented artist has been surrounded with controversy since his passing nine years ago.



His father reportedly made him “physically sick” when he visited because he abused the singer in his childhood.

And the superstar was the subject of rumours from the press as his skin colour changed throughout his life. 

But Daily Star Online revealed the truth behind the rumours in an interview with family insider Sharon Carpenter.



His name has never been far from a conspiracy theory over the years too.

His former stylist Steve Erhardt wrote a cryptic Facebook post teasing fans with “very good news”.

And his bodyguard Matt Fiddes believes the “King of Pop” would have “ended up in jail” is he was still alive.

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Janet Jackson Happy 60th to My Bro, Michael ... He Inspired My New Vid!!!
8/29/2018 1:00 AM PDT



Janet Jackson clearly remembers when she fell in love with Michael Jackson's "Remember the Time" music video -- TMZ got a peek at her new music vid homage to MJ for his 60th birthday.

Janet teamed up with Kwaylon Rogers -- aka @BlameItOnKway to his 3.6 million IG followers -- to shoot this 1-minute, 11-second clip. Janet plays the queen passing judgment on dancers ... just like Iman did in MJ's 1992 video.



The project came about after Kway and Janet met at the Billboard Awards earlier this year. They hit it off and, soon after, Kway pitched the idea of reimagining Michael's hit video and releasing it Wednesday ... the day he would've turned 60.

We're told the group rehearsed -- with Diamond Batiste behind the camera -- for a day and shot the video the next day to Janet's liking. As you should know, MJ's "Remember the Time" video -- costarring Eddie Murphy and Magic Johnson -- was hailed as a masterpiece.

Kway and King Bach play the dancers desperate for Janet's approval in her tip of the hat to Michael -- which also features her new song, "Made for Now."

It's a great tribute on a milestone day for MJ's family, friends and fans.

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TMZ broke the story ... Michael died in June 2009 after going into cardiac arrest at his Holmby Hills home. Paramedics on scene and staffers at UCLA Medical Center were unable to resuscitate him.

Michael's doctor, Conrad Murray, was ultimately found guilty of involuntary manslaughter. Murray still believes he did not play a significant role in Michael's homicide.

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Michael Jackson ALIVE? King of Pop’s stylist drops BOMBSHELL:
‘Not even the family knows'


MICHAEL Jackson fanatics are convinced the late King of Pop is still alive after his former stylist wrote a cryptic Facebook post teasing fans with “very good news”.

By Joshua Nevett / Published 27th August 2018



The mysterious post, shared by Hollywood hairdresser Steve Erhardt, has been dredged up by Jacko obsesses who believe the musician did not die in 2009.

Jackson conspiracy theorists, known as “believers”, claim the post gives credence to their hypothesis that the Thriller singer faked his own death to escape the crippling pressure of fame.

In the post, shared on July 30, 2017, Steve tells “believers” he has a “tip” for them, intriguingly claiming he has information about Jackson that “not ever the family knows”.

The post in full reads: “A tip for the believers, the Michael Jackson believers. You heard it here first, an announcement of sorts.

“And in a couple of months, or latest at the end of the year, you will be receiving some very good news.

“It’s almost unbelievable. And not even the family knows… but I do.”



The details of his apparent revelation were never made public and no further announcements about the Jackson conspiracy theory have been posted to his Facebook timeline since.

A post shared on June 19 this year contains a picture showing only the leg of a man wearing Jacko’s trademark white socks and baggy, shorted black trousers.

The similarly ambiguous post read: “In a recording studio, somewhere in the world, in an undisclosed location, he’s coming soon.”

The meaning of both posts has never been explained by Steve, who was close friends with Jackson at the height of his fame in the 1980s.

Given the vacuum of information, MJ fans have taken the post at face value.



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Michael Jackson ALIVE? King of Pop’s stylist drops BOMBSHELL:
‘Not even the family knows'


MICHAEL Jackson fanatics are convinced the late King of Pop is still alive after his former stylist wrote a cryptic Facebook post teasing fans with “very good news”.

By Joshua Nevett / Published 27th August 2018



The mysterious post, shared by Hollywood hairdresser Steve Erhardt, has been dredged up by Jacko obsesses who believe the musician did not die in 2009.

Jackson conspiracy theorists, known as “believers”, claim the post gives credence to their hypothesis that the Thriller singer faked his own death to escape the crippling pressure of fame.

In the post, shared on July 30, 2017, Steve tells “believers” he has a “tip” for them, intriguingly claiming he has information about Jackson that “not ever the family knows”.

The post in full reads: “A tip for the believers, the Michael Jackson believers. You heard it here first, an announcement of sorts.

“And in a couple of months, or latest at the end of the year, you will be receiving some very good news.

“It’s almost unbelievable. And not even the family knows… but I do.”



The details of his apparent revelation were never made public and no further announcements about the Jackson conspiracy theory have been posted to his Facebook timeline since.

A post shared on June 19 this year contains a picture showing only the leg of a man wearing Jacko’s trademark white socks and baggy, shorted black trousers.

The similarly ambiguous post read: “In a recording studio, somewhere in the world, in an undisclosed location, he’s coming soon.”

The meaning of both posts has never been explained by Steve, who was close friends with Jackson at the height of his fame in the 1980s.

Given the vacuum of information, MJ fans have taken the post at face value.



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« on: August 28, 2018, 04:33:19 PM »
I was happy with the previous forum theme but it was extremely slow loading the homepage header, so I decided to install a new theme all together. If you prefer a dark background with light text you can change the theme to the dark version in the sidebar on the right. You can also set a cover photo for your profile now.

I disabled the portal, the recent posts etc. can be found in the sidebar now. I also cleaned up the forum categories a bit. I didn't delete anything but I have moved a bunch of categories into other categories. If there's something you can't find, please let me know. I think it's less of a mess like this.

I also installed new smileys. I'm sorry but the old ones were annoying me so bad!

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Messages to Michael / Happy Birthday Michael!
« on: August 28, 2018, 04:14:36 PM »


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Credits to MJJCommunity, I am going through old threads there to see what interesting stuff we might have missed. This is an interesting story. I'll post the part about Michael, the whole article can be found here: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

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Keeping the Media Close
Shortly after the news investigations of Mr. Weinstein’s alleged abuse were published, A. J. Benza, a former New York Daily News gossip columnist, received a two-word text from the producer: “Help me.”

Mr. Benza had been integral to the network of friendly journalists — gossip columnists, magazine writers, editors and authors — whom the producer relied on to promote his entertainment empire and sometimes punish rivals or deflect threats.

Over dinner in West Hollywood in late 2003 or early the next year, the men had discussed a plan to help Mr. Weinstein avoid embarrassment. While married to his first wife, he had become involved with someone else, Mr. Benza discovered. A clerk at a Los Angeles art studio where he commissioned a gift for Mr. Weinstein — a painting of a reimagined “Hollywood” sign reading “Harveywood” — volunteered to Mr. Benza that a friend, Georgina Chapman, was seeing the producer. Mr. Weinstein, who would later marry Ms. Chapman, was separated and wanted to keep the relationship confidential until he was divorced, according to his spokeswoman, Sallie Hofmeister.

Mr. Benza, then between jobs, had a suggestion. “I could supply your P.R. girls with a lot of gossip — a lot of stories — and if people come at them with the ‘Harvey’s having an affair story,’ they can barter,” Mr. Benza recalled telling Mr. Weinstein. “He said, ‘A. J., it’s got to be good stories,’ and I said, ‘Don’t you worry about it.’”

Collecting a monthly retainer, Mr. Benza said, he reported items on Roger Clemens, Michael Jackson and others and sent them to Mr. Weinstein’s communications team, though he didn’t know whether they were used to trade away stories about the producer. Mr. Weinstein’s spokeswoman said the payments to Mr. Benza were for public relations work during Miramax’s dispute with Disney.

After 10 months, Mr. Weinstein said, “I think the coast is clear; I think we beat this thing,” according to Mr. Benza, who recently had a brief stint as a writer for American Media and also runs his own gossip podcast, “Fame Is a Bitch.”

Mr. Benza and Mr. Weinstein were exploiting a longstanding system of favor-trading between the press and the movie business. Gossip writers need a stream of insider scoops, industry beat reporters need exclusives on the next big deal and glossy magazines need celebrities who can drive newsstand sales. Mr. Weinstein, who wanted glowing coverage, could provide that and more.

The producer often held out business opportunities to those who covered him. He had book and movie deals with writers and editors at Fox News, The New York Post, Premiere magazine, Vanity Fair, Varietyand elsewhere. In Mr. Benza’s case, a book contract came immediately after he left The Daily News. In interviews, several journalists who had business ties to him said the arrangements did not cause them to pull punches.

He had particularly strong ties to the tabloid giant American Media — owner of The Enquirer, Globe, OK!, Radar Online and others — with which he teamed up to pursue several media and production deals.

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Qanon / The Calm Before The Storm?
« on: August 12, 2018, 01:52:50 PM »
Okay, I am probably going to get slammed for this blog, but it has been on my mind for so long and I have to get this out there and see if there are others sharing this theory. I will go through certain things rather quick because if I don’t I’ll be typing for the next 2 weeks! So if anything is not clear, please don’t hesitate to ask for a more detailed explanation. Keep in mind that this is simply a theory. Recent developments have supported what I have researched in the past and so I am genuinely wondering if one has to do with the other. It’s sort of a theory in which I try to tie everything together. Michael’s life, ‘death’, the ‘how’ and the ‘why’. To me it explains a lot and to me this fits Michael’s character and heart and what he has always fought for.

I will start with the very beginning. Please bear with me and read everything in context before commenting. It’s all just my brain over flooding and it needs to get out to see if together, we can make some sense out of all this.

A short introduction: I believe there is a group of very powerful and rich people who are trying to get full control over the world population. Whenever I talk about ‘they’, I will probably talk about this group. Their goal is to create this one world government and enslave the population. I also believe they are very close to achieving their goal. Many people are already enslaved without even realizing it and people are willingly giving up more and more freedom each day.

Whoever has read my blogs will know that I believe Michael was a victim of Mind Control. Mind control is being used for all kinds of purposes, but the most blatant is the use of it in music and entertainment. Artists are being controlled (they use rape and torture to ‘program’ them) to get certain political messages out to their fans, to influence the opinions of the public and to control the masses. Mind control victims are being ‘programmed’, usually when they are kids, and some kind of natural deprogramming starts when they get to around 25-30 years of age. This is the reason you see many celebrities go ‘crazy’ around that age, and there is a reason that the ‘Club of 27’ exists.

Most of the time when a victim goes ‘off message’ they will get them back by sending out a warning (a drug overdose, a murdered family member, an accident, hair set on fire etc.) and then send them to ‘rehab’ or something which is more like a place they will be reprogrammed so they can continue their ‘work’. I have an interesting book on this topic for whoever is interested and strong enough to stomach the information, I will not go into detail here because the details are sick. I have been in a depression for months after I first learned about this.

Anyway, I believe that in the late 60’s there was a ‘need’ for ‘acceptable’ black artists. The world was changing and even though ‘they’ had control over the black population for a long time, they realized there was a shift in thoughts and that black people were more and more accepted. You know, we are not racist by nature. Humans are made racists in order to divide. Where it was once directed at whites to control black people, we should now be careful not to let it happen the other way around. Anyway, I am getting side tracked here. Late 60’s, they needed black artists to control the black community that got more and more vocal by then. They could try to silence the community (hence why MLK was killed) but eventually they needed to find other ways.

The Jacksons were 'discovered' and brought to fame pretty quickly, right? Not saying they weren’t talented, but they were sent into orbit before anyone could spell their names. They were able to produce some very prominent black artists during a very tense racial time in the US, the 'acceptable' face of black culture. In the 60’s/70's the timing was right to create a wave of black icons they could control. They look for talented or especially gifted ones, like Michael. His personality made for a perfect MK Ultra subject.

Many black entertainers are used to reinforce stereotypes, it keeps America divided. Michael busted OUT of all their 'roles' and he got bigger than they anticipated. Not just that, he started to fight against them. So now they had this black guy that had all this power, all this money and even worse: he wasn’t playing their game. Have you ever wondered why Michael is the only one of the siblings with all these illnesses? His vitiligo was not random, it was medically induced. They made him white.

This stuff is still happening all over the world. To those awake, the signs are everywhere.

Around 1988 we see a change in Michael. Not just his appearance, but his lyrics, his attitude, this ‘angry’ Michael suddenly appeared. He started to use lots of symbolism in his short films, in Moonwalker (turning point right there) and his music and album covers. I believe this is where he felt ready to break away from his handlers and fight it.

Moonwalker is an important movie. It shows a certain change in his life and career. A ‘start’ of something new. It has always intrigued me that Moonwalker begins the same as This Is It ends. As if there is something about the period in between.

I’ve always wanted to do a full blog on Moonwalker but for some reason I never got to it. Maybe I will do that next. In short we see an interesting order of events in Moonwalker. We see Man In The Mirror, him telling us he is going to make some changes. Then we get an overview of his career up to then. Then we see him having to run away from the fans and reporters, disguising himself to get away. After that we see the Leave me Alone video. There is a shit ton of symbolism in all of this but I am keeping this short and will address all that in a separate blog.

At the end of the Leave me Alone video you see the Michael chained under the circus/rollercoaster/entertainment industry break free.  Right after that the attacks on Michael start, we see him under fire by these soldier like people. We then see a flashback where it is explained why: Michael and Katy find out that there is this man called ‘Frankie Lideo’ who wants to drug all the children of the world. Since Frank Dileo makes an appearance himself in the end of the movie, I believe that Michael used his name to symbolize the entertainment industry, managers, handlers etc. and that Frank was fine with that.

After that we see Michael under fire again, all ammo is used on him yet Michael gets away. We see the logo of these people attacking him as being a spider. We see lots of spiders and spider webs in Moonwalker. In Monarch programming there is something called the spider web system or black widow spider system. This system is set up for blackmail and destruction via entrapment of people who are perceived as threats to the Illuminati. I believe this is his way of showing that they will attack him with all they can think of and try to blackmail and entrap him (how about accusing him of pedophilia, hmm?). Also notice that in This Is It, Michael himself comes out from under the black widow during Thriller/Threatened when the ‘dead come back to life’.  Tables are turning?

Next in Moonwalker is ‘Smooth Criminal’, Michael under attack again, gets away again with the help of the other guests at the club. Katy is being taken by the spider people and we see Michael going after them to save her. Yet he gets his ass kicked as Michael, so he turns himself into this robot and destroys the spider people and leaves. He returns as Michael though and brings the kids to the club again that looks completely different now and performs ‘come together’.

So far Moonwalker in short. To me it looks like Michael started something around 1988 of which he knew they would attack him greatly. Something to save the children from evil people that want to drug them. With the many MK Ultra programming symbols in the movie, I am positive he made it his mission to save those who are a victim of this horrible programming. Ever since 1988 Michael has been very vocal about saving the children, healing the world etc. We also have seen him being attacked in any way possible. Poison (read my blogs) that caused various diseases including vitiligo, ‘accidents’ with bridges in Munich, the numerous accusations and insinuations of Michael with young boys. How low to attack someone by accusing him of the very thing he fights to prevent. Michael leaving in the movie might be symbolic for Michael ‘dying’ and then come back when the world needs to ‘come together’.

This Is It, Moonwalker’s ‘mirror image’ is released 21 years (3 x 7) after Moonwalker. What is the link to Moonwalker, which is about saving the children? Is he saying that his death is ‘It’, that it has something to do with saving the children? He did wear 777 on his shirt, referring back to Moonwalker?
 
If you believe he is still alive, you will also have to believe that Michael has had help from people in high places. You don’t fake your death with all this hoopla around it without it. There is no way. There must be law enforcement involved. If WE can figure out that Michael is alive, THEY can as well. So he must be protected. He must have friends in high places. Friends he trusts and has known for a long time. This is where some of you will dismiss this theory. What I had in my head for a long time (at least I had the hope there was something like it) was something I saw in someone else's video years later. Please watch the video first before I go on, otherwise the rest will make no sense.

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Now I know a lot of people hate Trump with a passion. I don’t. I have been following Trump since the beginning of the hoax. I have always believed Trump knew that Michael was alive. I also believe he and Michael were, and are, friends.

Now the biggest reason I wanted Trump to win the election was his vow to fight child sex trafficking, pedophilia etc. Many of you might not know that Trump has already put many pedophiles and traffickers behind bars and many are to follow. Trump really IS on a mission to save the children.

Now back to that video. I believe this plan was cooked up years ago. I think Kennedy tried, just listen to his speech. He was killed. Reagan tried, he was shot as well. Michael met Reagan by the way around that time. So did Trump.

Is Michael part of this ‘Plan to save the world’? Think about it, this shit is going to hit the fan, sooner rather than later. More and more is coming out. The media is in panic mode, making people think it’s some ‘right wing conspiracy’ just like they did with pizza gate. It’s all connected. This rabbit hole is so incredibly deep. Did Michael fake his death and go into some sort of witness protection program until this stuff finally comes to light?
Many of us, including me, thought Michael would return in 2013. I actually thought end of October, 2013. Michael talked about ‘4 years to get it right’ in This Is It. October 2013 would have been 25 years after Moonwalker as well. I think that was the original plan but he didn’t. Trump was supposed to run for President in 2012. That also didn’t happen, something must have fucked up the plan. Isn’t it strange new allegations of child molestation addressed at Michael popped up that year? What is the use of accusing a dead guy? There is none. That there is evidence that THEY know he’s alive. They probably also suspect what he is part of.

Now again, this is my theory and I’d like to discuss this here on the forum to see where it will lead and what we can figure out. I am not saying that this mission is real. I hope it is, I see signs that it is and I believe that if there is a plan to destroy the world, there has to be a plan to prevent that. There are still people in power who are good, everyone can’t be evil. And if there are, then why wouldn’t they do something about the state the world is in right now? And I am not saying Michael is a part of it either. I hope he is, I see signs he is and I believe he would ‘die’ for the cause. Michael’s name has been dropped a few times in relation to Q as well. And as much as I love Trump, I cannot see him address the world and have people actually listen to what he has to say, too many can’t see through the media lies and hate him too much. I do see them listening to what Michael has to say though…


When I went through old chats I had back in early 2010, this part popped up:

[ME]: what is that Q-sign? (can't remember the full sign now)
[PERSON I WAS CHATTING WITH]: don't worry.. focus on […] for now

So who is Q? “Wait until you find out who has been talking to you here. You will know who I am when you hear my voice.” (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login)

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Many think Q is some military guy, who would recognize some military guy’s voice? Some people believe it’s Trump himself. Although I do think Trump’s voice is recognizable, I don’t see why Trump would speak in code to himself, like he seems to be doing with Trump and vice versa. So who would be recognized by everyone by his voice?

Not saying Michael is Q, I am simply sharing thoughts. Scroll back up to that video about the plan to save the world and check the date it was posted.

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