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« on: January 07, 2012, 05:48:14 PM »
it says the videos are private?
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« on: January 07, 2012, 05:45:28 PM »
Okay let's say that this redirect is to get a further confirmation that TS/Front are one in the same (I mean that they are either the same person or they are working on the same "team" being given certain clues/directions). My question is...why is this important for us to know? We knew that TS would be writing under different names. I just want to know the importance or relevance. Let's say we believe TS and Front to be the same person, then there's the question of the connection between Front and Back. Then are TS, Front and Back the same person?
My head is going to explode!
If this redirect is a religious context, then I feel bad that I don't really have anything to contribute. So, I apologize for that. I'll just have to read and learn from you guys!
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« on: January 05, 2012, 05:13:19 AM »
i don't think it is necessarily bad to doubt TS or Front or Back. isn't that one of the lessons this hoax has taught us? question EVERYTHING? that being said, i don't think people should completely write off what others say because they don't understand or frustration gets in the way. i agree with bec that the ambiguous posts leave me saying "okay....... crash/." however, thank you very much im_convinced for your post. we've been on this hoax ride for so long sometimes we forget what we were given before. it's always good to go back and refresh our memory. we've probably been given subtle hints along the way that make sense now if we re-examined them. as for the redirect, i don't know what part TS is actually confirming. i've always assumed michael would be lurking in the shadows of the forum. i can't imagine him staying away. i'm sure he gets a kick communicating with us since he is technically "dead" to the rest of the world.
i do wonder if this is piece by piece and if we're now getting bigger (clearer) "pieces" for the whole picture.
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« on: December 28, 2011, 10:59:26 PM »
beyonce confuses me. michael liked her a lot and she was obviously inspired by him. but there's her connection with jay z....
it's hard for me to make up my mind with her.
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« on: December 27, 2011, 05:43:46 PM »
i agree with @MaryK that this might be a waste of time but i'm having a hard time letting this one go. does anyone else think the cheekbones are exaggerated? they just seem very prominent. i remember reading somewhere that michael said girls could always tell through his disguises and mainly because of the eyes. maybe that's something to look into.
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« on: December 26, 2011, 11:32:38 PM »
there's something about this picture. surely there were more photos taken of various impersonators at this "legends" concert. why THIS one? it's being used for all gossip/media sites.
okay.....*unbuckles straight jacket*.....
call me crazy. i know this guy is a real person but i can't help but think that this could be michael using dramatized prosthetics and makeup to look like an impersonator of himself. i know this may sound wayyyy out there, but wouldn't that be up michael's alley? i say this because the impersonator has some kind of smirk on his face and katherine's pose is not awkward or unsettled. on top of that, i keep coming back to this being the only photo that is circulating the websites.
*buckles straight jacket*
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« on: December 25, 2011, 01:16:54 PM »
Hi guys! Sorry I haven't posted in a while. I've been reading, just haven't had time to post. Sorry I haven't been pulling my weight in this thing. I'm going to try harder! Anyway....Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all of you!!!!  First off, I'll say I love the picture because my favorite color is blue, so that automatically makes me happy. Ha! I think it definitely is playing with what we all wish for....hopefully our wish can finally come true! I don't know what to make of the two Michael's. (Is it a play on the "double" theory? "see the man like you've never seen him before"?) The Michael on the left is, once again, from the BAD era. In both pictures he has a sly look on his face. Like the one on the left is saying "Can you feel it?" and the one on the right is saying "Keep your head up." Happy holidays everyone!!!!! 
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« on: November 17, 2011, 03:57:50 AM »
I've said all along that I think 2012 would be a little late for a BAM. I mean, look around what is happening right now to the world. We are in a kind of revolution. I think the BAM will be a catalyst for a bigger revolution. It's pretty obvious that people are pissed off (FINALLY) with how things are running in the world today. To use Michael's lyric, "We've Had Enough." I think 2011 is a significant year because if shit hits the fan in 2012, we all need to be prepared-and I believe the BAM and the information finally freely flowing and truth being revealed will be that preparation. For those Americans in this forum, Congress is seriously thinking about censoring the internet. College Students are storming administrative meetings pissed off about education budget cuts. People are camping out and protesting in major cities. I mean, this is it. Maybe God (or higher being or the fates, whatever you believe) saw this coming, had this planned. I think Michael had several BAM dates these past 2 years and he had to skip out on them because the general public wasn't pissed off enough yet.
My point is, I think a BAM in 2011 is important to prepare us for 2012 (which, while I don't think the world will necessarily end, I DO think it will be revolutionized).
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« on: October 20, 2011, 01:48:48 AM »
i remember seeing a picture of michael wearing a red hoodie before. i think he was shopping with the kids, if i'm not mistaken. i don't think the picture is recent. probably from 2007-08
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« on: October 20, 2011, 01:43:09 AM »
i'm slightly horrified that they want her to join their "program" when she turns of legal age. i'm assuming paris joined the flag football team to make a statement that women can be equal to men in all aspects. somehow....lingerie football does not seem to really further her point. let kids be kids. let them wear clothes. let them not be presented with the idea of playing football in lingerie when they turn 18.
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« on: October 11, 2011, 03:30:16 PM »
pardon me if this is rude if it actually is a body, but....it looks like a prosthetic body used for a CSI or alien t.v. show. the "person" in that photo is terribly thin. while there were shots of michael (some believe it was a double, my head is confused on that) showing him as thin (orange pants), there were other shots of him looking bigger and healthier. for example, there is that little clip of michael dancing with his choreographer in front a mirror just practicing. in that clip, which is assuming that it was filmed during or around the time of TII, michael looked much fuller and healthier. If that clip was filmed in June, it is almost impossible that he would become that skinny and his entire frame shrink. that "body" would not be able to rehearse that intensely- dancing and singing for hours, raise/play/educate 3 young children and conduct his day-to-day businesses.
also, if this is the end for people, then you must think the jacksons are one of the worst families to ever exist. with all the present tense speech, the inconsistencies when they are supposedly honoring michael (i'm thinking of the forest lawn shot-WRONG freeway- in the jackson reality show), joe laughing days after michael's passing, his promotion of his record label days after his death, the kids spending the first anniversary of their father's death in hawaii, keeping michael's grave isolated from fans whom i bet he'd want to be surrounded by,etc would be simply deplorable if michael had passed.
i believe the jacksons are one of the strongest, smartest families. katherine would not allow any of the children or joe dispresct michael in such ways. the trial is a trial for not only the media, the fans and the world but also for US. if you think post-bam the world is going to be filled with sunshine, flowers and giggles you should think again. yes, it'll be joyous, but it ain't going to be easy. we're on trial here. a trial of our loyalty and faith. chins up!
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« on: October 06, 2011, 03:24:03 PM »
That picture if photoshopped, look at his face, once you die, your face becomes like a blue color. Does his face look that color? Nope. When a person passes as of respect they put a sheet on his face. If they want to take a picture, they take only the face, not half of his body.. This I got informed by the morgue of a hospital.. Don't forget I have a doctor friend. So do not dwell on this anymore it is not worth it, it is photoshopped. Another clue, we heard that Michael was bald had peach fuzz hair, now how does this explain he had his hair nicely done all pushed back? Did he go to his hair stylist because he knew he would have his pic taken?
i agree completely. my grandma died in a hospital. we were removed from the room so they could remove her respirator and IVs. when i went back in the hospital room to say my final goodbye, she was pale, gray (she had been dead maybe 15-20 minutes at that point)- no amount of lighting can change that color. also, they had the sheet pulled up on her, only exposing the top of her shoulders, neck and face. i doubt out of respect for the family and friends who were at the hospital (i'm saying if michael had died) that they would just leave him open like he had just crawled into bed and passed away. if they can distort bodies and faces for advertising purposes, they can do it for this too.
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« on: September 28, 2011, 03:27:46 AM »
People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray
Opening Statements
David Walgren -- Prosecutor's Opening Statement
Updated 9/27/11 at 9:35 AM
Prosecutor David Walgren delivered an opening statement, using a graphic of what appears to be Michael Jackson's body on a gurney.
* Michael Jackson trusted his life to the medical skills of Dr. Murray and it was "misplaced trust"
* The cause of death was an overdose of Propofol, administered by Dr. Murray
* We will prove Conrad Murray repeatedly acted with gross negligence and incompetence
* Walgren explained that Murray would obtain $150,000 a month, not the $5 million Murray demanded for the duration of the "This is It" tour.
* Murray made arrangements with a pharmacy to purchase very large quantities of Propofol on a regular basis
* Murray lied to the pharmacist by saying he had a clinic in Santa Monica when he did not
* On May 10, 2009, Murray made a voice recording on his iPhone ... the recording documents MJ highly under the influence of "unknown agents" with Murray sitting there. It shows Murray knew Michael's state and what he was doing to the singer
Click to read the rest ... * In the weeks before MJ died, he was cold, shivering, rambling but Murray kept giving him Propofol, and Kenny Ortega will testify MJ was clearly not well
* A meeting was held at Michael's house on May 20, 2009, MJ died, with Kenny Ortega, Murray, MJ and others. Murray scolded Ortega for expressing concerns about his health, saying he was the doctor, adding, "Michael is physically and emotionally fine. I am the doctor."
* On the day MJ died, at 1 AM, MJ came home from rehearsal and Murray spent the night at the house -- as he did every night for the prior 2 1/2 months -- for the purpose of putting him to sleep with Propofol.
* Walgren acknowledged what TMZ has been reporting almost from the beginning ... that Michael died in his bed -- that he was clinically dead when paramedics arrived.
* Murray was texting and making phone calls while he sat by MJ. He made 8 phone calls, the last at 11:51 to a girlfriend, and that's when Murray realized there was an emergency.
* Murray calls bodyguard Alberto Alvarez and says Michael Jackson had a "bad reaction."
* Murray instructs Alvarez to essentially hide the evidence in a blue bag ... putting, among other things, the Propofol bottle that was hanging on the IV stand -- Walgren is implying that's the bottle that had the fatal dose
* 911 was called at 12:20. And, Walgren says, when paramedics arrived, MJ was dead
* Murray never told the EMTs he gave MJ Propofol, even though they asked what drugs Murray had administered
* Paramedics pronounced MJ dead, but Murray insisted he be transported to UCLA
* UCLA doctors asked Murray what drugs had he given MJ, but Murray never mentioned Propofol
* Two days after MJ's death, Murray met with LAPD detectives, and disclosed he was giving MJ nightly doses of Propofol everyday for more than 2 months to put him to sleep. This is the first time Murray fessed up.
* MJ told Murray at around 5 AM that he needed to sleep and they agreed Propofol was the answer. Murray said he gave MJ 25 milligrams of Propofol, but that would only put him to sleep for minutes. Prosecutors say much more Propofol was administered.
* Murray explained to cops he went to the bathroom to urinate, came back 2 minutes later to discover MJ wasn't breathing. Prosecutors says that is called "ABANDONMENT," leaving a patient unattended is medical abandonment.
* The prosecutor says Murray was on the phone for 45 minutes after giving MJ Propofol
* Conrad Murray acted with gross negligence and was not acting in MJ's best interests ... he was working for $150,000 a month.
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fweeewww.. I rushed today to watch from the start :
Michael's voice on the audio.. well I don't believe it's his voice or it might be his voice though completely technically altered to give the impression that he's heavily drugged. Anyway.. Murray claims it's Michael's voice. It can be anybody's voice, no proof whatsoever :roll:
L.O.V.E.
TMZ also said in April that michael was alive at UCLA...so....
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« on: September 28, 2011, 03:19:18 AM »
when i first saw this, it stopped my heart. i'm not going to lie. not in the sense that i thought it was real, because...come on. but the fact to "see" him this way.... i don't like it at all.
but seriously, how do people look at this photo and go "yes...that's so legitimate." really?
the quality is horrific. the proportions are off.
let's say this was taken post "death"... why was he wheeled into a hallway? why is the tube still in? why is this a background for a power point presentation for a manslaughter case with his mother sitting in the same room?
let's entertain for a split second that michael did die, how disrespectful of the prosecution to be so flamboyant with such a delicate picture, especially in front of a mother.
do you smell that? cover your nose. it's b.s.
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« on: September 28, 2011, 03:03:00 AM »
oh COME ON /overreacting/
IF that is him, it's been altered. i'm probably the farthest thing from tech savvy, and even I can tell you that.
the only thing i have to compare his "deep voice" with is this clip. from his tour singing "keep it in the closet." start at 37 seconds
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jl2VKqHRJw[/youtube]
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