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« on: August 14, 2010, 03:32:27 PM »
It seems to me that TS’s recent redirects are trying to tell us something more about the connection between Elvis and MJ, not to try and convince skeptics, but because it’s important for us to be aware of this.
Up until now we have established and believe that MJ studied the master and copied Elvis’s fake death possibly with the help of further information from LMP.
However, the last few redirects are showing us that there is more to the relationship than that, and, as Angel wrote, it “is far stronger than any of us imagined”.
I think the redirects have demonstrated that MJ knew Elvis very well. They met whilst The Jackson 5 were performing in Las Vegas and Elvis brought Lisa Marie to see the show. Following MJ’s marriage to Lisa Marie, it’s not inconceivable that he and Elvis developed a close relationship (they appear to have a lot in common!). If MJ started planning his hoax in or around 1998, maybe Elvis was there with him, helping him from the very beginning, perhaps even without the knowledge of Lisa Marie, which would explain her shock and surprise when MJ “died”. Judging by her Myspace blog, I think this was genuine and she was probably only made aware of the hoax later.
Having lived just “across the road”, it could well be that Elvis knew something about the property on Carolwood Drive. Perhaps it has underground “Vaults”, passages or excape tunnels??!! There have certainly been a lot of references to "Michael Jackson's Secret Vault" on TMZ recently.
Who knows, Elvis is in “hiding" somewhere, living his life as Jesse away from the public eye, and is obviously an expert at avoiding attention. MJ could very well be with him, and they are coming to the final leg of their “Incredible Journey” together…..or maybe just embarking on a new “Incredible Journey”!!
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« on: August 13, 2010, 01:08:15 AM »
I would just like to point out that usually TS redirects to a particular post in a thread but this time the redirect is to the actual thread itself.
So is it the first post of the thread or the entire thread that we are supposed to be looking at?
Because the first post is:
michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13241#p221358
and the entire thread address is the actual redirect, not a specific post in the thread. Oh, did I post it wrongly :oops: I'm really sorry, I don't usually post redirects because they happen in the middle of the night for me, but I just happened to be up and thought I'd have a look to see if we had a new redirect yet. I don't understand where you get those post numbers from and which one is supposed to be the redirect!! :? Perhaps someone could re-post the redirect. Sorry!!! I feel really stupid now, I should have left well alone. :oops:
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« on: August 12, 2010, 11:38:03 PM »
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Register or LoginWhilst trying to find some more connections between Elvis and MJ to post on the Facebook Page, I discovered that Michael's Holmby Hills mansion where he "died" is literally a few steps away from Elvis's last Beverly Hills home and where Lisa Marie grew up.
I don't know how big this area is and I'm sure that a lot of stars live or have lived in Holmby Hills, and it's probably not hoax related, but this is still another uncanny coincidence!
[youtube:1huddh49]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzRZ6K_qPK0[/youtube:1huddh49]
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« on: August 12, 2010, 12:03:42 PM »
Whilst trying to find some more connections between Elvis and MJ to post on the Facebook Page, I discovered that Michael's Holmby Hills mansion where he "died" is literally a few steps away from Elvis's last Beverly Hills home and where Lisa Marie grew up.
I don't know how big this area is and I'm sure that a lot of stars live or have lived in Holmby Hills, and it's probably not hoax related, but this is still another uncanny coincidence!
[youtube:2kmxvxj0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzRZ6K_qPK0[/youtube:2kmxvxj0]
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« on: August 12, 2010, 06:59:09 AM »
That numerology is pretty interesting. My DOB makes 11, the hour I was born makes 11, my housenumber makes 11 and my postal code makes 22 (11/11). My current age makes 11 and I have seen the time 11:11 a lot lately.
My first name has 7 letters, my first- middle and last name together have 21 letters (777).
I passed for my driver's licence on the 13th at 13:00 hours, and I had a car accident on 12/7/2001 (13) and according to the police I was LUCKY that I only had some bruises and scratches. I have a job interview tomorrow (Friday the 13th) at 13:00 hours.
Numbers are fascinating...
:lol: :lol: :lol: 11:11  Souza, don't want to spook you out or anything, but have you seen this.... You are not allowed to view links.
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« on: August 12, 2010, 06:19:27 AM »
I was wondering too about the TMZ article titled "Steven Slater -- The Media Storm Hits Home" and if this was a message to say that the barrage of emails and tweets made a difference.
Now this redirect telling us to look to see if it's taking hold....
Hmmm.... I'm also inclined to think that this TMZ headline is a message to us, unless we're now reading too much into the TMZ articles! However, it does seems like TMZ and TS are working in sync now. Sorry if this is a stupid question, but how did you find the media blog and how are we going to know if any more have written something? :?
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« on: August 11, 2010, 01:49:01 PM »
Michky, I don't think you're crazy either! Since being drawn into the "death" hoax, I've also become fascinated with this subject. I first came across it whilst doing some research on 2012. I haven't watched your videos yet but I will. Have you read about the Pleiadians? Apparently (!!), they are highly evolved beings from a series of stars located in the constellation of Taurus, and spiritually they are in the next step or level in our human evolution. Certain knowledge is being given to us by a group specially enlightened Pleiadians who want to help us to our higher spiritual destiny. They reside at a much higher frequency (the whole planet, including us, vibrates at a certain frequency, that's a scientific fact) than us which is also lighter than ours, thus the term "Light" is used. The higher and lighter the frequency, the closer to the "God" source one becomes. Pure Light at the centre of creation is "God". Now I was brought up as a catholic, and I believe in God. To me, this is just another explanation of "God" but it's one that I can relate to, if that makes sense. Although I am now not a practising catholic, the words "I am the Light, I am the Truth" still resound in me. In John's Gospel chapter 8 verse 12 the same message comes in another way. Jesus said, "I am the Light of the world: he that followeth Me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life."So, lightworkers, lightbeings, starseeds, angels....I think they are one and the same thing. Whether Michael is one of these....hmmm, I'm not sure, but it's not a ridiculous idea. If he's not, and he were to read something like this, I know he would probably squirm....so, no bashing please. However, there is an interesting concept. In certain Cherokee legends, it is said that their people originated in the Pleiades long, long ago. They claim to have come to this world as Starseeds to bring Light and knowledge. If the stories are true, then modern day Cherokee, as well as other Native Americans, and many with Native American blood contain Pleiadian genes! Katherine Jackson, Michael's mother, came from Alabama and is descended of African slaves and Cherokee Indians! I'm just sayin'.......!!! I really do believe that God, the Mayan prophecies, the Pleiades, Lightworkers, Starseeds, higher spirituality, 2012, NWO etc. etc., and ultimately, MJ's death hoax and message, are all connected. We don't fully understand any of it, but I have a feeling that we are going to very soon......21/12/2012 is only 2 years and 4 months away. :shock: Further reading: You are not allowed to view links.
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« on: August 11, 2010, 01:04:08 PM »
CSD tells TMZ they went through all the proper steps to obtain clearance to sample MJ's 1972 hit "I Wanna Be Where You Are" ... for their new song, "Where You Are."
I'd like to know what these 'proper steps' were that they went through to 'obtain clearance' to use MJ's music. I don't know if they're taking questions but is it possible someone could ask them the question on the TMZ live thing today? (Don't know what time 1.30 pm PST will be in the UK) Their body language could be interesting! If I've used my "Time Converter" correctly 1.30pm PST (Los Angeles) is 9.30pm BST (although it says PDT, not PST :? ) If I can, I'm going to try and watch it.......don't want to miss this one!!!
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« on: August 11, 2010, 08:59:53 AM »
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« on: August 11, 2010, 03:54:35 AM »
I didn't even know he had a perfume....!!!!! But thanks for posting the video...the first 2 seconds did it for me.
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« on: August 11, 2010, 03:36:19 AM »
[youtube:2m2cky7y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVYAk3lA8ts[/youtube:2m2cky7y]
Just found a youtube video of the original hit "I Wanna Be Where You Are"!!
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« on: August 10, 2010, 04:13:01 PM »
I've done a lot of re-reading and re-watching here the last couple of weeks. I think I'm catching up with many of who have been around here for much longer than me!
As many have already said, I think Michael's message goes further than just awareness of NWO. Whatever our own personal beliefs, or lack of them, we cannot ignore Michael's deep faith in God. I cannot believe he would take us to a place of understanding of the true state of the world and just leave us hanging there with no solution. I've wondered recently what he expects us to actually DO, and I initially thought 'LOVE', in all it's manifestations, would not be enough to halt the seemingly inevitable world crisis. But if you factor in a belief and love of God, then anything is possible. I'm certain Michael believes this, and that's why he can confidently say that he writes songs to bring 'hope' to people. Without God all is doom and gloom and fear.
I believe in Love, next question I have to ask myself is do I believe in God? Or are they, in fact, one and the same? I never imagined I'd be thinking about things like this when I came here to try and find out what happened to MJ on June 25th last year! I think that Love and God are one and the same. I was brought up as a Catholic and I have always believed in "God", but I have never understood the strict doctrines of the Catholic Church. Since, inexplicably, becoming completely drawn to MJ's death hoax, I too have started thinking about things I never imagined I would........higher consciousness, lightworkers, pleiadians (seriously!), 11:11 etc. etc. I believe that all these phenomena are connected and can help us to understand the true meaning of love and the human spirit and, hence, God.
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« on: August 10, 2010, 03:09:21 PM »
I suggest going to as many MJ fan websites and facebook pages as possible and posting ElvisAndMJ or ElvisandMJ.com. I think if we can make them curious, it's a start, the rest is up to them. "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink"!
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« on: August 10, 2010, 02:35:52 PM »
Just looking at the poster again and I was wondering if anyone has any thoughts on why certain letters are in larger capitals:
ELVIS THE FINAL CURTAIN
Is this just for visual effect or is there a hidden message!!! I'm seeing possible "clues" everywhere now :roll: Oh, and btw, I've tried anagrams. The only one I can see is SCENT LEFT.
OK, I know, time for dust down my straight jacket. :lol:
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« on: August 10, 2010, 02:21:34 PM »
The redirection of yesterday with emphasis on the number 999 and today confirms that these things are not coincidences. And if we remember the TS post about this issue in this hoax, the autograph 1998-666 = 1332 and 13320 / 4 = 333, 333 +666 = 999 system the people who control the government (army LOVE) is the quantity reverse number of the new world order 666.
Autopsy report ended 09/09/1909
This is it movie poster published 09/09/2009
Tickets to the movie go on sale 27.09.09 (2 +7 = 9)
And the premiere of the film after seven weeks 10/28/2009 09/09/2009.
Just to recall some "coincidences" that are not as Elvis and Jesse said everything has its meaning, I hope those who still doubt TS read all your post and see that this is not coincidence  I absolutely agree Paula..... THIS IS IT has three vowels III = 999 (9th letter of the alphabet) The death was 77 days from 9-09-09 (999) Dangerous Album Cover 1998; 1+9+9+8 =27, 2+7=9; 1+998=999 And now we see that 999 was (is) important to Elvis too!!
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