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« on: June 15, 2010, 06:59:47 AM »
When Michael Jackson took the stage on March 6 in London to announce that he would be performing again come summer of 2009 at London’s O2 Arena, fans were certain they were in the presence of a living legend. With all this, speculation is now running rampant that the person they got to cheer for and applaud was not even Michael to begin with, but a very convincing look-alike – at least that’s what Paul Harris of the British publication Daily Mail seems to believe.There are more things that simply seem off about Michael’s recent appearance, which would indicate that he was not the real deal, Harris says. For starters, the star’s chin was too square, even when accounting recent plastic surgery he might have had. However, if the chin is not enough to prove that the person on stage was not Michael, then there is the question of his voice, which was, according to Harris, too bassy to be Jackson’s. And that of his walk, which suddenly seemed more hunched – a strange thing for such a skilled dancer as Michael is “Was the quivering figure in the aviator shades and sparkly jacket that day an imposter?” Harris asks. “[…] The walk, an awkward, loping stride. He paused momentarily beside a golf cart, probably assuming it was going to take him into the arena – but was ushered in on foot. Next, the voice. The few words he stumbled over at the microphone had far more bass than many expected. If you closed your eyes you would surely have had trouble identifying him as the more familiar, childlike 50-year-old. […] Trouble is, surgery and image enhancement mean that few people really know what MJ will look like when they meet him.” Harris further explains.
According to this theory, and many others now circulating freely on the Internet, Michael himself decided to go for a double for the press announcement either because of a tumble he had taken only hours before (which was caught on tape), or because he was too ill to attend. Canceling the announcement was not, understandably, an option on account of the fact that many fans and reporters had already gathered for it, and there was a lot of money at stake.
Be that as it may, Michael’s team insists the theory is as “ridiculous” as it gets. If the person on stage was not Michael Jackson, this is perhaps because Elvis Presley was at the press conference too, says a statement coming from the singer’s camp. The statement from the singer's camp (who I wonder?) is interesting. In light of recent speculation maybe Elvis was at the press conference!! 
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« on: February 25, 2010, 07:35:43 AM »
OK, So I am talking about the latest TIAI redirect that takes us to a video on YouTube tited "The FINAL Rehearsal"
My thoughts on this are :
From the evidence gathred so far, we can all safely say that this is perhaps the biggest hoax that we'll ever see in our lives......Honestly we've had a great time.
Remeber the dancers tweeting about a BIIIG surprise in March....regarding their rehearsals???
Well I think its TIME for BAMSDAY.......And what the title of this video is trying to tell us is that PREPARATIONS ARE IN THE FINAL STAGE, AND IT WONT BE LONG BEFORE YOU SEE MJ......BECAUSE REHEARSAL MEANS TO PREPARE....AND FINAL REHEARSAL MEANS THAT THE PREPARATIONS HAVE REACHED THE FINAL LEVEL......AND IN A FEW DAYS ....
BBBBAAAAMMMM 1111  Good theory!! Also, this is today's (Feb 25) redirect....You are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginOn the 22nd we were redirected to the shirt picture from the poster (left hand side of his jacket) On the 23rd we were redirected to the photo of Michael shown in the centre of the poster On the 24th we were redirected to the Final Rehearsal of This Is It video And today we are redirected to the This Is It Poster "LIKE YOU'VE NEVER SEEN HIM BEFORE" I know we're not supposed to mention her (!) but BOW says something big regarding the hoax, not necessarily BAM, will happen in MARCH!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:
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« on: February 24, 2010, 01:03:50 PM »
Newoldfan ... THANK YOU!!!!.
While ago I started a similar thread and I was kind of sad that I didn't get much response. (You are not allowed to view links.
Register or Login)Not because it was my thread but because people find it abviously more interesting to talk about the exciting hoax things instead of REALLY listening to the message and bringing it out there to the world.
Recently I have realised something that gives me a very warm feeling.
Since 25 june I too have been following this hoax site, because I felt something isn't right.
Later on I started to focus more on the message and decided to live it. In september 09 I broke up with my boyfriend, the father of my son, after 7 years of relationship (not because of the hoax  ). I left the house together with my baby, found myself a new place which I had to fix all by myself.... In the whole time I didn't cry at all. Not because I was not sad about the situation, I often wondered why I wasn't down, where did this hidden strenght come from. Even people around me asked me what I was drinking since I always kept smiling.... then it hit me... It's L.O.V.E.
Fill your heart with love, approach people with love. Tell the person close to you how much he or she means to you. Help where you can, without expecting anything in reward. What you will get is the feeling, that gives you the strenght to overcome anything, really anything.
Why am I writing my story here? Well there is something about Michael that I haven't read here. Dispite all the terrible things he had to face throughout his life, I think he is one of the few people who had the chance to experience true happiness that comes from pure L.O.V.E. He never stoped loving.
Never underestimate the power of love. It is by far the strongest feeling you can experience, once you do... hold it and share it. Trust me, that is the root of true happiness.
As for the trials, I don't think they broke Michael. I think took the little boy out of him and made him a man. Thanks for your reply. I totally agree with you. I am disappointed that I have had no other replies!!! I was looking forward to hearing some more heartwarming stories!! I did see your thread and I think I was one of the few people who commented. It does seem as though a lot of people just haven't "got" the message. Simply L.O.V.E! Thanks for your story and I glad things have worked out for you. 
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« on: February 23, 2010, 04:36:12 AM »
SO MUCH HATE I used to check YouTube every day for new death hoax videos about Michael to try and make sense of the all the information, clues, theories, conspiracies etc. I inevitably also ended up watching a lot of stuff not connected with the death hoax as I just love watching Michael perform and I also enjoy his interviews. I also usually read some of the comments. I was astounded and horrified at the number of arguments not to mention hate and abuse that crop up between so called MJ 'fans'. Take a look at this (a lovely interview btw): You are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginNow read some of the comments!! And they are not all from MJ haters. A lot of the abuse comes from fans defending MJ but he would be very saddened by this. I hope he doesn't read this stuff. DEATH HOAX & CLUES There is no question in my mind that MJ is still alive, I am a true beLIEver. So many clues were left for us....911 call, ambulance pics, the Memorial, the Burial, This Is It, the movie etc. etc.!!! Why are you still analysing these clues 8 months on? Have some FAITH. The clues are there, they are not strange coincidences or figments of your imagination, they are real. They are there to let us know that Michael is still here. Whatever the reason for Michael's disappearance, and I am sure it is something huge that will shock us all, he had to let us know that he is still here because HE LOVES US. WHY??? This thread is in the Announcements at the top of the Fourm page. Please look at it again: You are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginAlthough I agree with this to a certain extent, (enough analysis of clues, enough videos, enough speculation on the return - the BAM) I am not sure that the focus should be on WHY he had to fake his death. You could speculate forever and still not get to the real reason. PATIENCE! When Michael returns, and he will, all will be revealed. THE TRUTH WILL PREVAIL. However, we need to help him. His return will be difficult. MESSAGE I believe that Michael is using this opportunity to spread his message. Firstly, not to judge and condemn and secondly, to LOVE each other and the planet, our home. The focus on the Murray case is so important because it is a test to see how much has been learned. So far, we have FAILED. How have we failed? Please look at this again: You are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginPeople, including MJ fans and believers, are STILL condemning Dr Murray! There is no death, no Murray, no case! LOOK, LISTEN, LEARN! Army of L.O.V.E! What did this mean...how could we join....what should we do?  I was very confused about this in the beginning. Now it's very clear. Simply love each other, spread the love by encouraging others. Don't be shy, don't be afraid. ELIMINATE the HATE. Please look at this again: You are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginMAKE THAT CHANGE Basically, what I am trying to convey here is that if you love Michael, help him, give him your support. He loves you, that is clear. Return his love by showing him that you have understood his message. I'm not saying stop following the hoax but don't spend too much time analysing and investigating things that aren't important anymore. Instead, use that time to let Michael know what is important... that you have understood his message and you are giving him your LOVE and support by acting out his message. Use this thread to let him and each other know what you have done to MAKE THAT CHANGE since the hoax. It doesn't matter how small. Inspire others and let's see this ARMY grow!!! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE AS A RESULT OF THE DEATH HOAX AND MICHAEL'S MESSAGE OF L.O.V.E. ? Here goes: My teenage son comes in from school every day, goes to the fridge to pick up a snack, then goes up to his room???!!! Sounds familiar? Yesterday, I stopped him in his tracks, gave him a BIG hug and told him I loved him. Not something we tend to do spontaneously. He was slightly shocked and embarrassed but he said 'I love you too Mum". It felt good!
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« on: February 18, 2010, 07:36:06 AM »
EXACTLY! But how can we make people see beyond the hype?
Even when Murray is found not guilty, if the case gets that far, is it going to prevent further 'trials by media'?
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« on: February 18, 2010, 06:12:56 AM »
Today's redirect is to the comments made by Mo and other members on MJDHI regarding yesterday's redirect.
The link is at the top of the post.
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« on: February 18, 2010, 05:42:13 AM »
New redirect February 18 You are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginWhen are we going to learn to listen to or see what is being reported in the media? In the redirect on February 17 (You are not allowed to view links.
Register or Login) the following words were used several times in the news report: ...unnamed sources
...possibility
...apparently
...suggestions
...could be
...unconfirmed
...potentially
...probablyInstead what we hear is ...Dr Conrad Murray gave Michael Jackson Propofol which killed him!If we, as Michael Jackson fans on a forum investigating his death hoax, can't see what's happening, how can we expect the world to recognise that we are brain washed by the media?
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« on: February 16, 2010, 07:46:50 AM »
He's also identified in this video as Matt Alford Dr. Conrad Murray's Attorney You are not allowed to view links.
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« on: February 16, 2010, 06:16:38 AM »
Well said!! This is one of the most sensible and uplifting posts I've read on this forum.
Until he returns, we can't be 100% sure of his reasons for the hoax and when we do know I'm sure there will be more we can do
but until then we could all do one small thing a day to .."make a change"!
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« on: February 16, 2010, 05:48:53 AM »
Hi, I'm new here, I've been reading the forum for a while but this is my first posting. Has anyone seen the new redirect from TIAI today? It's to a Youtube video made my mjalive999. It brought to mind the posting made by Bec on 7 Feb and I think it's a VERY IMPORTANT message. You are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginThis was Bec's posting: It's VERY IMPORTANT that Murray be charged by the DA Postby bec » Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:34 pm the murray question
has long bothered me, i think we talked about this before, like theres something we arent getting about murray, he stands for something, his role is important, else why have him? why did michael NEED a doctor or anyone at all to be involved in this hoax?
well i figured it out, with all the media circus this weekend, i figured it out
murray IS michael… not physically but metaphorically
murray is a professional black man fallen from grace, being accused of a horrible crime, outrageous allegations, his private and personal life paraded before the cameras on the evening news for all to see and mock
his child support issues, his debt, his wives and ex’s and girlfriend, hes portrayed as incompetant (leaving the room while michael was under to talk to his girlfriend, not calling 911, one armed cpr, etc) the media has convicted him of a crime and proclaimed him guilty before the police even sealed the “crime scene”
remember, the police didnt consider it a crime scene until the media did, days later, family goes in and out etc
meanwhile the tabloids have targeted murray and proclaimed him michael’s killer
murrays friends and patients and supporters are small voices in the sea of media bias saying wait, no, its not true, hes a holistic doctor, he doesnt perscribe drugs, he uses vitamens and herbs and holistic approaches
the media calls him dr death and dr feel good, drugs drugs drugs, shadey doc, did michael’s bidding, provided powerful drugs at will
so, hes painted as something he is not, they sway perception and turn this man into a monster
meanwhile, the LAPD and now the DA are FOLLOWING the media's lead… and feel pressure to bring a case, the MEDIA are the ones who say manslaughter, murder, charges, hes guilty, the feds have ALWAYS followed the media in this case
so, just like in 2005, when, thanks to the FBI files, we now have proof in black and white that the DA had ZERO evidence on michael and conspired to create a case on false pretence, to try and bring him down, NOW we have murray
same situation
i think
i think the LAPD and the DA are fighting over this because one entity wants to bring charges that dont exist, because lord knows theres no body and no real evidence at all, and the other doesnt
but they feel pressure, pressure from the MEDIA to bring charges on this guy
so
one entity wants to drop it because they know theres no evidence, shit there isnt even a body, really, not that anyone has really seen, no autopsy, no toxicology, and the other entity wants to simply CREATE a case, create evidence, create charges, JUST to satisfy MEDIA pressure
and i think THIS is EXACTLY what michael KNEW would happen
and i think michael is BETTING that corruption wins out over truth
and michael is BETTING that they will bring charges, EVEN WITHOUT A DEAD PERSON
which, constitutes FRAUD
and PROVES that the entire system is, and i quote michael, “jacked”
tada
this is why he isnt back yet
this is why chernoff keeps suggesting manslaughter, chernoff has been injecting manslaughter into the media rhetoric for months
so, betcha michaels right, corruption WILL win and murray WILL be charged, in a fake case that the DA invented JUST to appease the media, who has been cllammering for this guys head on a stick since 6-25
and then, oh heres the best part
ok, so theres been some speculation that michael may face litigation for profitting from this, TII, record sales, etc right?
THIS is why michael has kept his nose so clean with 1001 legal loopholes with the DC and the life insurance and paying for the memorial and payng for the burial, security and public safety and the no public viewing and the no RIP or date of death in TII and the legal disclaimer in TII “for entertainment only” etc etc etc
they got NOTHING on him , nothing
and he will have EVERYTHING on them after they charge murray
he cant come back until they charge murray
they MUST charge murray
they MUST
thats why chernoff has such a big mouth
manslaughter manslaughter, he will be charged with manslaughter
this is why he isnt back yet
this is why he didnt come back in october
this is why he didnt come back on mlk day
this is why he didnt come back at the grammys
this is why the revocation of the will was postponed
this is why
Lastly…
the You Tube video to Murray’s friends and supporters was our first clue. Some hoaxers speculated that Murray was actually Michael, considering the similarity in words and tone to Michael’s 2005 video, and I bet this pleased Michael very much. We didn’t quite… get it back then though. Not quite. Almost, but not quite.
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