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I've watched the entire documentary and I am stunned. I already new a lot of these things, but to see them all together...

Wow.

I really love the message they are giving. The truth will prevail and love will save us all. I wonder if MJ ever watched movies like these.

You know what I think?

I think she IS in on the hoax and her job is to convince people he is dead. Most every long time MJ fan knows who Karen Faye is and knew how close she was to him.....she was by his side constantly. So what better person to help TRY and pull this off then her?
She knows alot of people would follow her around and cling to her cus she was close to MJ...asking her Q's about MJ. So she now has TONS of his fans following her around the internet like little lost puppy dogs.....

I agree. I was thinking perhaps she's just a player or character in all of this. She has to play her role.

She's playing it badly.
Unless it is her 'job' to confuse everybody, in that case she is really playing her part well. I don't trust that woman.

I absolutely love this thread! Especially al the Chris Tucker references about the hoes and Tito.  :mrgreen:

:shock: Just when you think you know everything...

:shock: You find out Mr. Jackson has a treasure trail

:oops: Wow.

I really like this thread, it's bad. Really bad. In a very nice way.  :D .

Wow.

This really is odd. It does look like MJ, a green MJ alright, but definitely MJ.

As someone else has already stated, why take such a risk? He had to fake his death for serious reasons, reasons we perhaps will never know. Why jeopardize everything to hop around in a green suit? It is not what you call an impressive disguise, because it only draws attention.

But then again, MJ is so smart, his mind is so wonderful, I don't think any of us can really (but really) comprihend the way he thinks.

Either way, this really amuses me. Almost as much as it confuses me.  :mrgreen: <- MJ

When I say two MJs, I meant one was the body double - impersonator/lookalike - whatever you want to call it

That's what I meant as wel.  ;) . So my question is, why would they put the real MJ and the body double in the same helicopter, when they just could have used the body double?

I still think there were two MJs in the ambulande/helicopter - one being a double so they could switch bodies

I think so too. But why put 2 MJ's in there when they could have just used the body double?

So many questions...

Randy is the only one that really keeps messing with my mind.

LaToya and Jermaine have proven in the past that they are not very loyal to their brother. I don't believe those two, I don't trust them. When MJ was taken to the hospital, LaToya arrived shortly after him, crying, clearly upset. Very normal behaviour! But at the memorial and funeral she was all smiles... So if you look at LaToya and Jermaine, you know he is alive.

But when you look at Randy... He seems to be the only one that is
a) Fully aware of the hoax (that is why is is avoiding the media and didn't write anything for MJ's fake burial)
b) Not aware of the hoax, because he is the only one expressing grief. Not wanting to be part of the reality show and all.

There is something about Randy. I just don't know what it is. In his tweet he says 'after losing my brother'.
Did he 'lose' him because MJ died?
Did he 'lose' him because he is the only one disapproving of this hoax?

This has always been a weird family, but they keep getting weirder and weirder.

welcome!!! how old r you? and buckle up

Thank you! I was born in 1981 (so I'm 28 now) and as you all know, the 80's and 90's were OWNED by MJ. So growing up, I was always listening to his songs and ofcourse re-enacting his amazing vids. (I wasn't as amazing though, with the complicated dancemoves  :mrgreen: )

The weirdest thing to me is still the bodybag.
- Why was it white?
- Why when they were taking it to the helicopter it looked normal, with straps
- Why were the straps removed when they took him off the helicopter?
- Why was the bodybag almost flat when they took him off te helicopter?
- Why can you still see the other bodybag (with straps!) in the helicopter?

And the weirdest one;
- Why is it clearly visible that the bodybag is MOVING?

I know he is alive, but I don't know which theory is true. If he DID go to the hospital, why would they (?) put him in a bodybag and transport him with a helicopter and a fake bodybag? Wouldn't it just be easy to put a fake bodybag in the helicopter (which is followed by the paps) and let MJ escape the hospital in disguise?

I went through the same exact process in October (: Welcome to the forum and I hope you enjoy you're stay.

Weird process, right? First trying to accept his death and just as it settles in you find out he is alive.

Welcome aboard - its been a bumpy ride and we are in for more turbulance before we are through.

Thank you!

If got my seatbelts on, took my motion sickness pills so I'm ready!

Hi guys!

As the title of the topic states, it is confession time for me. I started reading all the conspiracy theories because I thought they were hilarious. MJ in hiding because of the illuminati, MJ being murderd by Sony and/or the freemasons, MJ being a reptillian... and so on.

For me, it was clear that MJ was dead. Hurtful for me as a life long fan. But it also felt 'good', because he finally had peace. The peace he so needed and deserved.

But then...

Whilst reading all the stories, watching al the video's, looking at all the pictures I KNEW there was something wrong. I mean, a moving bodybag? A flat bodybag? A 'grieving' family with no emotions? Two burials?

So I became a sceptic. Unsure of if he was dead or alive.

Then I read more. Saw more. Thought more.

So today, I am not a believer. I am a knower. I know he is alive. And I am ready to seek the truth with all of you! Chamone! Get on it!