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« on: March 29, 2010, 09:32:14 AM »
If he was taking everything that was on the list for this long he would have been dead a long time ago or at least in a real hospital for major problems. If he really was taking them and really died June 25th then wow. I don't know how a 50 year old could have handled all of that. It just doesn't seem reasonable to me. A big concern for me now is the tmz article that Murray says he didn't do anything wrong. Is that because he didn't do anything at all? As in he and Michael set up the place to make it look horrible and then relaxed until 12.21 June 25th for the ambulance call. Hopefully. It seems plausible.
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« on: March 21, 2010, 01:40:37 PM »
Thanks I'm glad you understood what I was saying. Yes of course there are tons of art pieces and books and movies that contain symbolism. I just think it's wrong to see something and assume that's what it means without any evidence. I was just trying to point out what was going on in the scene for certain. Everybody's mind is different and it's incredible to find out what other people think about everything. As we all know this whole hoax, or death, is incredibly complex. It may take months, even years until everything is figured out.
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« on: March 21, 2010, 12:49:09 PM »
Nah, it's just a name. We just call it a "Bamsday". : D
I don't know who came up with it and where it originally came from, but I'd say "bam" represents the end of the hoax as it represented the ending of This Is It.
And I think it's a funny word... But, you know, just a word. : 3 Well that's understandable. The point I was trying to make was that the "bam" at the end of the movie doesn't necessarily have to mean anything at all. It just seemed like soooo many people were convinced that it meant he will come back and this and that. I personally don't believe symbolism all the time. Especially with classic paintings. People always give their ideas of symbolism and insist that it is correct getting it published in books all the while knowing nothing of the painting in the first place. How do "historians" know that just because something is in a painting that it means this and that?? It's all just interpretations. Someone could look outside and see a heart shaped cloud and say oh that symbolizes that today will be full of love......oh really? It will also be full of hate and crime. Everyday is the same unless we actually make it different. That's why I think symbolism is bogus unless there are hard facts and evidence supporting it. If the painter, writer, sculptor, etc, says there is symbolism in something, then there is. If we just interpret something as having symbolism, well then that really isn't convincing to me. I'm glad you all replied to this by the way, and I hope nobody thinks I'm a jerk or anything. I just tend to look at things from different angles. It may be hard to believe but when the movie first came out and that scene hit I was so mad because my girlfriend didn't want to stay in the theater to wait for after the credits. I went back to see it a second time and was like "wow, that's there for a reason". So I was definitely one of the believer's that there was more to come. And I don't mean any disrespect to anyone. I want a "bamsday". I want one as much as any of you. I'm just trying to get all the evidence together, that's all. The people on this site are great. Continue to support MJ. Whether he is alive or not, he would, or is, proud of each and every one of us.
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« on: March 21, 2010, 09:54:55 AM »
It works. It's basically the same as the newest TMZ article about Murray and propofol
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« on: March 21, 2010, 09:53:43 AM »
@mikestanek1
Have you heard about metaphor and symbolism?  That's actually pretty funny. Take some time to think about metaphor's and symbolism. A metaphor is saying that something is something. "You are the moon, shining so bright" would just be an example saying that you actually are the moon when we know that you of course cannot be the moon. Now symbolism depicts something in a work of art, movie, play....just about anything that either symbolizes or hints to something else. I have always had a huge problem with this because people make up their own things. I could go paint a picture and put in the background a small cat that is barely noticeable at first, but with more concentration you see it. Now to me, I put that picture in there just to put it in there. I could hand this painting to somebody and say "find the symbolism in this" and they could go on and on and on about how this cat symbolizes this and that, when in reality, it's just a prop. So tell me now, how concrete in "symbolism"? Does the spider in "Thriller" really symbolize resurrection? Maybe. Does the bam really symbolize that something big will happen in the future? Maybe again. What I'm saying is people can't just say something and then all of a sudden believe that's what it means without any solid evidence. If somebody shows me that bam is hinting towards something instead of just being a cue for Bearden in "Human Nature" then I will believe you, only if it's solid evidence of course. Otherwise, I don't think people really have the right to be pushing something such as bamsday and that the bam was for this and that without being able to give evidence for it.
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« on: March 20, 2010, 11:58:09 PM »
Oh don't get me wrong, I know that it was for a reason. I used to be a manager at a movie theater and I've seen so many scenes after the credits that it's just incredible, and pretty much all of them hinted to a certain thing. It just seems like people are taking the word itself into a completely different dimension. It was definitely a cue to start the music back up. I think the clip itself means much more than just bam though. That's all I'm saying really. Sorry if this doesn't make sense, I'm multi-tasking a lot.
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« on: March 20, 2010, 07:09:34 PM »
Ugh, you aren't understanding. I'm talking about both "bams". To the person that said wrong bam, you need to realize that I said the one in the movie and the one at the end of the movie. It's a cue. He is telling Bearden to hit his note. Sure there is one after the credits, yes, but that doesn't mean anything. I'm asking what good evidence do you have that this should be pointing to a Bamsday???!! It just doesn't make sense. Emeril says "bam" all the time. So if we saw an episode of Emeril and he said bam would we be expecting something crazy to happen months from now?? No. It just doesn't make sense. It's a clip from Human Nature, we all know that right? "I'm going to button my shirt, jacket, whatever it is. I'm gonna look around a little bit, play with them. Snap my fingers maybe, then Bam" And that's when he points to Bearden for his note.
You see what I'm saying? You can't just say that just because it's after the credits and he says "bam" that it is necessarily pointing to something besides what is in the clip alone. You need evidence. It's not there.
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« on: March 20, 2010, 06:55:45 PM »
I always thought that if Michael did come back, that it would be through video playback, or live tv or something of that nature. Michael is huge, and I just couldn't see him doing a public come back in which something tragic could happen. I always wonder if a comeback would even be safe for him at this point. I understand we all want him back, but if he is truly alive, it might be best for him to just stay out of the public eye for a long time (however long that may be). It's nice that you had a dream about him though. You never know what they could mean. Probably just something that was in the back of your mind before you went to bed, but it could be more.
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« on: March 20, 2010, 04:31:53 PM »
Sorry I didn't really find a good forum location to post this. I wasn't sure where it should be. But my question is simple. What makes everyone think that just because after the credits there is a scene where when it ends Michael says "bam" that that means Michael has to come back and he was telling us that by saying "bam"? That just doesn't make any sense.
Keep in mind that that scene was from Human Nature in which Michael was pointing to Bearden for when he should hit his notes. If you recall, when the song is starting in the movie Michael sings "Get me out, bam...somethin right there" and he is pointing or letting Bearden know basically what he should be doing. So are we going to sit here and say that just because he said "bam" there that we should anticipate his comeback on a "bamsday"? It just really doesn't fit in. People say bam to punctuate and to cue things. That's what he was doing there. Now I'm not saying that I'm not a believer. I'm not sure if he is alive or not, I couldn't tell you if he was. I have to be 50/50 because I just don't know what happened yet. The clues are good, but nothing is solid yet. Honestly I think we'll need to wait for the Murray thing to finish. And also, if he did fake his death, what makes us think that he has to come back? If Elvis faked his death, did he ever come back? Just something to think about.
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« on: March 20, 2010, 04:22:48 PM »
This doesn't prove doubles one bit. And in my honest opinion doubles were only used for stunts and for MJ to see what the show would look like from the seats. Everyone says red pants MJ was a double. Really? Would a double have known the the growl in The Way You Make Me Feel was off cued and get upset about it? I couldn't see that. And you know what, it's MJ's voice. People could say all day long that it wasn't him, it wasn't him....well it was. Get over it. Just because the whole spider thing and 4 seconds doesn't mean anything. The movie was bit and pieces glued together to make a movie. Sure they might have had straight through footage, but they had to make it look like they didn't. So in Thriller it was Michael coming out of the spider for sure. It wasn't like we saw him singing and dancing and then 4 seconds later he is coming out of a spider live. It's bits and pieces. Keep that in mind.
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« on: March 17, 2010, 08:15:58 PM »
That's the first time I heard my first MJ song "Beat It" and it will always be my favorite song. Love it. That part is so great. From what I know that is Ecas and he is listed in the credits.
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« on: March 15, 2010, 10:26:32 PM »
Maybe this is a good thing? I'm not really too sure. How do we know that he wasn't the one that pushed for this deal to happen. To all of us the estate could just mean the estate where as it's really MJ himself, but to the public it has to say estate, and maybe even to sony it's just the estate. He could just keep releasing music for years and stay in hiding for years. You never know 8-) I think I like that
Thanks crazy girl =P It was kind of hard to understand but I'm glad you agree and like it
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« on: March 15, 2010, 09:55:24 PM »
Maybe this is a good thing? I'm not really too sure. How do we know that he wasn't the one that pushed for this deal to happen. To all of us the estate could just mean the estate where as it's really MJ himself, but to the public it has to say estate, and maybe even to sony it's just the estate. He could just keep releasing music for years and stay in hiding for years. You never know
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« on: March 15, 2010, 07:54:33 PM »
but his listing have dropped You mean the auction has been dropped? Or do you mean his name from the TMZ list under the search bar? I think it's weird too that it's been 6 days and nothing, not even a creditor article or anything bogus like that. Maybe something is being prepared??? Waiting is always a good thing to do
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« on: March 14, 2010, 01:34:55 PM »
Yeah Michael Lives was a good one 
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