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Other Odd Things / Re: REBBIE'S SON WEARS BAM T-SHIRT
« on: March 14, 2010, 01:10:27 PM »
Could mean something.  But it is a Bam Margera Element skateboard brand shirt, just to let you know.  You may have already known that.  It would be cool to see somebody wearing a custom made shirt to give something away.

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Other Odd Things / Re: Interesting article from May 23 2009
« on: March 14, 2010, 01:06:15 PM »
Quote from: "mjfansince4"
happy birthday!!!!
 i know the feeling. i don't think the concert was ever going to happen. i think the movie IS the concert. keep the faith. there are too many inconsistencies for this not to be a hoax. nothing FITS.

Thank you.  I really don't know if the movie was the plan all along or what.  That's the feeling I get, but I just don't know.  It's so crazy.

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Other Odd Things / Interesting article from May 23 2009
« on: March 14, 2010, 03:08:11 AM »
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I hope that works, I don't know how to post links in here.  But it seems to be telling us the entire time not to expect the shows to even happen, and this was at the end of May.  So maybe this really did happen and this is why he decided to do the movie and that's why the rehearsal footage is so limited.  This would explain the lack of different outfits and such.  It's just a thought.  I'm not saying these people knew of the hoax, I'm saying Michael really wasn't ready to do this and realized he would have a difficult time doing the shows and decided this would be the next best thing.  He would have only had to do the death hoax to avoid the lawsuits from the O2.  

Ugh it's so late here, I just watched TII for the 40th time and am really just hoping that all of this isn't for nothing, and we don't find out for real that the death was legit.  I just can't take it.  I've been reading and reading and just keep hoping it's a hoax and that he'll come back soon.  I really just wish something would happen =[ He should come back on monday, it's my bday ha.

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TMZ Articles / Re: Calm before the storm? TMZ/TS
« on: March 14, 2010, 01:09:13 AM »
I've noticed that pretty much every search engine Mj is in the tops list for searches especially for the auctions coming up with his O2 furniture and such.  Isn't it a little weird that TMZ hasn't posted anything about the auction at all?  I thought they were the ones that knew all.  So what do you think?  Are they only posting what is necessary for the hoax, or are they only posting stuff to make us believe that there is a hoax and keep us coming back to their page over and over again?  It's tricky

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I might be the only one who thought he didn't sound like MJ???  I don't know.  I think it was easy to tell the difference.  Too much voice synth and all that crap.  Although I would like to hear him sing Billie Jean or something and then compare the two because he does indeed have a similar voice, just not identical.

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Other Odd Things / Re: rehearsel and RTL question
« on: March 10, 2010, 12:36:24 PM »
I like how you think.  I'm really sick today so most of my day is just going to be sitting here and taking in some thoughts of others.  When I first saw the coroner video I was like "wow".  I really thought it was the real deal.  And you know what, I still think it is.  I think the making of video had to be done in MJ's case or else he was in trouble.  If he didn't do that he wouldn't be in the clear anymore and he most likely would have been in trouble with the O2 and maybe some other people but I don't know in depth who that would have been.  I do wonder who was actually recording the van going into the garage and why they haven't spoken up that it was real.  So there is also the possibility that the coroner video is fake.  It's a very tough situation and sadly we probably won't have enough evidence to figure it out, at least not right now.
As for your thoughts on the rehearsals....I do like them.  I for one, however, always believed it was MJ all the time in TII.  It may turn out eventually that I am wrong, but when he speaks it's definitely him, and in "The Way You Make Me Feel" there is no way that an impersonator would have known that the growl wasn't supposed to come until MJ cued it, unless however it was rehearsed that way for the film.  It's very tricky.  But honestly I do think that the movie was filmed for those 2 days and that's why he wore the same thing during the whole film, with the exception of Culver Studios and even then he was wearing the O2 jacket.  So weird.  But my final guess is that they learned all the dances and songs and then finally just rehearsed everything for the cameras on the 23rd and 24th along with the extra features, which also could have been done later.  They are obviously different days where as Zaldy I think his name is had a mustache one time and was clean shaved the next time.  I think that they rehearsed for such long hours because the people in on the hoax knew how much footage they needed to make a concert-like film documentary.  This wasn't something that just happened.  They knew what they needed to do and maybe they came just short.  I have a feeling they wanted Dirty Diana in TII and not just in the extra features.  I know that's a lot to read but let me know if you think I'm on the right track or if I forgot anything.

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Other Odd Things / Re: R.I.P. Day on Mtv
« on: March 10, 2010, 12:13:13 PM »
By chance is that list just for rappers? Or Hip hop?  I don't know some of those names but a few are familiar and they are all dealing with rap and hip hop.  That's my guess as to why Elvis and MJ wouldn't be on there.  But Tupac should be on there if that is the case.  We would need an update I guess.

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Other Odd Things / Re: Who is this?
« on: March 01, 2010, 07:57:28 PM »
Not sure.  But I wonder where she got that picture, or is that a picture anyone can find?  It just seems like a really recent photo with awesome quality.  Maybe she's an insider?

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General Hoax Talk / Re: What does everybody here think??
« on: March 01, 2010, 07:54:05 PM »
Yeah sometimes I think he shouldn't even come back just for safety reasons.  But I'd love to see him to movies and his short films if he did come back.  I would advise him to stay away from live concerts just in case.  People are crazy these days and you never know what bad things could happen.  He needs to watch out for his children, that's number one.

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TMZ Articles / Re: cover up in MJ death?
« on: March 01, 2010, 08:23:09 AM »
I think it is pretty obvious for us that the family went in the house after the "death" to take stuff out, but also to put some things in there.  How could anyone believe the picture of his bed?  It was disgusting and there is no way that he would be sleeping with everything on his bed like that and just random things everywhere.  It's all a show.  Or if the family didn't set up the crime scene then maybe they did it the night before and got everything ready, but the paramedics should have seen the bed right?  I wonder if any of them can comment on what the bed looked like when they arrived.  I bet it didn't have propofol bottles everywhere and all the junk that was in the picture of the bed.

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General Hoax Talk / Re: What does everybody here think??
« on: February 26, 2010, 04:36:51 PM »
Quote from: "pepper"
Quote from: "mikestanek1"
Many however thought that Dave was actually Michael in disguise on LKL.  However, if you do believe that, you should watch again and notice Dave's hands in the video.  They are completely deformed, something that you couldn't really disguise.  I don't think MJ would go through all of that to be honest.  

Oh! mikestanek1! You need to check out this video at 1:56, especially around 3:15 where it compares the hands of "DaveDave" and "LKL DaveDave".  Yes, it is in German, but a picture says a 1000 words in any language.  What do you think?

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Hey I don't see anything too conclusive in that video to change my mind.  They compare his hands but they are the same.  They highlight the left hand and then compare it to the right hand which doesn't really help since they aren't the same.  I don't think Michael was Dave on LKL, I really don't.  Colored contacts of course would be the reason for the change of eye color, that is easy.  I just don't think they would go through all of that and disguise Michael fake hands and everything.  It seems a little too much.  But you know what?  If I'm proved wrong then congratulations to everyone who was right!  That would be crazy if it was Michael on LKL

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General Hoax Talk / Re: What does everybody here think??
« on: February 25, 2010, 09:07:18 AM »
Ok I just got a chance to read everything.  Very good.  voiceforthesilent, I am not sure where I heard about the O2 threat.  I either read it somewhere or somebody else posted it a long time ago.  It doesn't mean it's true, but from what I remember it was a written letter sent to his house I believe.  It's hard to believe somebody would do that.  What a terrible world we live in.  Which is most likely another reason for the death hoax, to "heal the world" so to speak.  And I agree with Dave Dave and Murray.  Many however thought that Dave was actually Michael in disguise on LKL.  However, if you do believe that, you should watch again and notice Dave's hands in the video.  They are completely deformed, something that you couldn't really disguise.  I don't think MJ would go through all of that to be honest.  However, I do believe that he is directing everything and that's where the real life movie comes in to play.  A lot of what the players are saying sounds like it would be directly from MJ.  So death hoax wise, it's true that he is the director in this movie, or we are being played with on a large level.  We'll see.

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General Hoax Talk / Re: What does everybody here think??
« on: February 25, 2010, 12:42:00 AM »
You guys are very polite.  Thank you for replying.  And sorry for my second post but it just seemed so rude for 58 people to look at this and not even post anything at all about it.  I was at least hoping for a "good thought" or "this is what I think".  But I understand.  I haven't been a member for long but have been reading on here for months.  I didn't read everything posted here yet because I've been up for 20 hours and need a break, but I did skim it real quick and will read everything thoroughly tomorrow when I get a chance.  Thanks for replying.  And I did notice one thing in a post that caught my eye. LAUGHTER! Some could say it's laughter to hide pain, but I think most of us can agree that it's more or a mischievous laughter, as in "haha we know what is going on but we and the media are feeding you other things".  I think laughter is greatly important.  Thanks again to those who replied and I am sorry once again for having hard feelings for anybody who didn't reply, I just got upset =[

Mike

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General Hoax Talk / Re: What does everybody here think??
« on: February 24, 2010, 06:15:48 PM »
58 views and nobody has an opinion on what happened?  Sometimes you wonder why you even try to communicate with people.  It just shows how many people on here are that rude to just ignore something like this.  What a shame.

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General Hoax Talk / What does everybody here think??
« on: February 23, 2010, 07:07:41 PM »
Hey I'm new and this is my first topic.  What I was hoping to do here is just find out what everybody's idea is to what happened.  Or I guess, just post what you think Michael did, why he did it, how he did it and so forth.  There are so many things to think about and there are endless possibilities so my basic reason for doing this is so that maybe somebody's idea could persuade me in another direction.  But first I'll just post one of my possible explanations.  I'll try to make it short and too the point also, we have all done so much reading in the past 8 months.  

So I am in between if he is really alive or not.  I can't say he is dead because there is no proof.  I can't say he is alive because even though there are many clues and hints, nothing is solid.  But of course I am leaning more towards alive, otherwise I would most likely not be here.  I do believe that many people are in on this, but of course it's too hard to actually say who as many things simply could be coincidences.  But one thing that I have been seeing lately is about Arnold Schwarzennegar (sorry if spelled wrong).  I honestly think that he could be a bigger part in this than we think.  Michael has the ability to be close to anybody he wants, so why not the governor of California.  Something really big to me that I read about a long time ago was that Michael had a very blatant death threat for when he was to perform at the O2.  If this is true, then why wouldn't he want to back out of this?  I would certainly not perform if I get a death threat from somebody.  Also, I believe that Michael could have physically done all the shows depending on the time off between shows, I just don't think he wanted to.  10....sure.  50......no thank you.  I don't believe a lot of what I heard and I think it is in TII when somebody says Michael agreed to do 50 shows as long as the Guinness World record book would record it and something else that I don't recall.  I find that hard to believe.  I don't think he knew that 50 shows would come out of this agreement.  
I believe in a lot of the clues, but not all of them of course.  One clue that I just saw, or atleast I think it is a clue is on TMZ with the Kardashian's going to the Jackson's bday party is that Michael Jackson's name is bold along with tito and the Kardashian girls.  I find this odd because to me it seems like it is hinting that those highlighted names were all at the party....just something to think about.  Check out the article if you haven't already.  
So I guess overall what happened is my opinion is something like the witness protection program, or maybe actually the witness protection program, just altered a little for MJ.  I honestly do think that he is either living at Neverland or with his parents.  I don't see why that would be so crazy.  A lot of people could say that's insane, but is it really?  Everyone is thinking that he could be overseas and such, but couldn't he basically be hiding in plain sight??  I think he could be.  If he did fake his death, his children still need him.  He needs to be there for them.  He can't just jet off and leave them be for so long.  He's not that kind of parent.  But if this is the case, I think we should definitely consider Arnold as a main piece to the getaway to Michael's "great adventure".  So I'm gonna stop there and hope that people read this and maybe even agree.  
I also want to add and hope that with whatever is posted in here that nobody bashes anybody else's theories or ideas.  Nobody knows for sure what happened so anything is possible at this point.  I'm just interested to hear anything and to learn what everybody else thinks about this whole fiasco.

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