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« on: December 23, 2010, 10:39:09 PM »
I see "one year in London 30".
If the note is real (it does look like Michael's handwriting to me) and "30" refers to 30 concerts, it's not good because MJ told some fans, in private conversations, that he only agreed to 10 concerts... I seriously don't know what to think. Maybe Michael ultimately agreed to do 30 shows? :?
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« on: December 21, 2010, 11:33:26 PM »
Seven days ago, i dream a picture , and when i woke up i saw that picture on internet ( there IS A DATEEE : 07.07.2007 IN MY DREAM)I also know tha bam day ! i saw it :shock: 
Whoa how interesting. Are you like a true medium? COuld you post or link the picture I would like to see.
Also, what was the bam date you saw? haha so many questions but Im curious. 
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and in my dream i saw the date when sta pic was took
Medium777, if you don't know much of Michael's life, may I ask how you found this picture? (This is indeed the interior of the Carolwood home; someone asked.) And what is the date that the picture was taken (which you said you saw)?
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« on: December 21, 2010, 10:28:41 PM »
ijcsly:
I found it - thank you! OK, it's not that odd. It seems that "This Is It" Stageworks provides mobile stages for various events, so I don't think it's a big deal if AEG Live uses their services (Live Nation is also on the list of clients, along with others). There IS a name coincidence with Michael's TII, of course... And the company is located in New Jersey, where the Cascios live. Hmm. I wonder how long this company has been in existence, and who owns it. :?
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« on: December 21, 2010, 08:58:31 PM »
I just knew Ne-Yo would figure in to this somewhere down the line. Would someone on this forum kindly listen to the song off of Libra Scale Ne-Yo's current album called "Cause I said So" and listen really close to the "OH KNOW's!!" all the way through this song and tell me if I'm crazy or is that Michael... or does Ne-Yo just do a good imitation of Michael. Also the song called "What have I Done" the last song on the album, sounds exactly like it should have been Michael singing it and Ne-Yo is doing a very find job of trying to sound like Michael.
Actually, Ne-Yo admitted that his record (which is very good IMO), Libra Scale is very inspired by MJ. I would even go as far as to say that some of the tracks may have originally been for Michael but due to circumstances, never were recorded or never was released since June 25th happened. MJ's inspiration has always been evident in Ne-Yo's work but I will say that Ne-Yo does have his own spin. I also think will.i.am and Ne-Yo make a very good point. There is more than enough music of his completed work that he approved of, from Jackson 5 to Jacksons to his solo work to satisfy fans and music lovers so it is interesting that this album was released in the first place when most of the songs were obviously not completed. So I understand both sides of argument. I think his legacy will always last due to what he did pre-June 25th but I also understand why others may feel the need to keep releasing music from Michael to keep his name out there. I'm just curious what does Michael think of all of this and if Michael had input on this record or not. In any event, it is nice to hear new music from him but thinking from the artist point of view, it would be frustrating to see incomplete work released to the public without the artist's consent IF that is the case with 'Michael'.
I agree. Michael created his own legacy, and it's not "dusty" and it will never be. Most people in this world have yet to see "Ghosts", which is a masterpiece (I keep mentioning it on this forum whenever I can). And I think it's good to keep a "what if" perspective on things, and try to see both sides to the issues... We don't know that Michael is alive, after all. I personally don't hear Michael on some of the tracks on the album, and that's really preventing me from enjoying the album. It's a bit like TII... It makes me feel guilty and sad.
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« on: December 21, 2010, 08:37:11 PM »
God bless you. I loved him. He really did a wonderful job playing Michael. His eyes were so beautiful. It is unfortunate and sad when they die so young with their whole lives ahead of them. He was the same age as my son when he died. RIP Wylie. This brings tears to my eyes, yet again :cry: I know I said something about this before, but my heart really goes out to you... No one should die at age 24. :cry: I liked Wylie, he was indeed talented. Rest in peace.
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« on: December 21, 2010, 08:24:14 PM »
Even if Michael is still alive, I am appalled at what lengths they will go to get ratings.
At what lengths Michael will go to wake people up and clean his name.
It will touch people in their most inner beliefs, right?
It will wake the feelings of "this is right, this is not right" up, right?
It will talk about the so-said drugs.
It will talk about the vitiligo.
It will talk in all detail about the life of Michael.
Doc Murray gets a preliminary hearing on Jan 4, 2011, or am I wrong?
This is all orchestrated.
yes, but don´t forget that they didn´t mention vitiligo in the autopsy report... 
The AR mentions the vitiligo right at the bottom of page 1: "The decedent suffered from vitiligo and had no history of heart problems." Elsewhere in the AR there's mention of patches on the body consistent with vitiligo...
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« on: December 21, 2010, 06:37:32 PM »
This goes against the grain of a Hoax but it's just something I've tossed around in my head for days. What if the whole Propofol story and Murray is just a smoke screen death, a complete fabrication to make it seem like a hoax, so people will keep their eyes fixed on that scenario instead of the actual way Michael actually died, if he died. What if he was killed for real but another way and all of this is for confusion so people all get nuts from the idiocy of it all. Just a theory and I hope I am wrong. That is an interesting thought, but it means that the Autopsy Report (AR) would still have to be fake/wrong. Who knows.
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« on: December 21, 2010, 06:34:24 PM »
I have a question, why would this ex employee of sony jeopardize her life to talk to your friend, about the hit on Michael ? I know somethng, I know how mafia works. You talk you are dead. Just explaining some facts. If sony put a hit on Michael they are part of mafia. Remember these people if they know something they will shut up and never talk. If she spoke she took a big big chance. You did good not to mention her name. God bless
You ask an excellent and very valid question, all4loveandbelieve.......when my friend was sharing this info with me, it didn't occur to me to ask him that question (I think I was too excited to be hearing what appears to be inside info from the industry)....but the impression I got was that he got into a private conversation with someone at a party.....who knows? Perhaps the former Sony exec who shared this info had one glass of wine too many? I have absolutely no idea why she would have confided in him....maybe she believes MJ really is dead now, so it is safe to talk about it?....but I wouldn't be surprised at all to find out it is true....we know Michael was involved with Malnick (sp?) in Florida....there are lotsa mobsters in Florida, I understand....my only hope and prayer is that he had the means to escape....I believe he is smart enough to outwit ANYONE!
I can picture someone saying this at a party, especially if they like MJ and feel bad for him. I know I might! I personally am not questioning the info you shared with us, heisinme09... I'm only questioning the theory of Sony wanting Michael dead (as opposed to bankrupt).
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« on: December 21, 2010, 06:02:24 PM »
 God that'a depressing
When you say so be it can you elaborate on that?
By "so be it" I mean that Michael might have felt that some people wanted to kill him (at least if he wasn't up for the concerts - and I'm thinking AEG, not Sony) and might have allowed it to happen. He wouldn't have to allow or ask CM to inject him with propofol... CM could have injected him while Michael was sleeping (that is, it could have been a real murder). Will PM you to say a bit more. I'm not trying to negate all the inconsistencies and oddities we've discovered all this time, though. There's certainly lots of weird stuff going on, and I'm still on the hoax side.
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« on: December 21, 2010, 05:57:18 PM »
If the scenario was that AEG hired body guards and Murray, then the end result would point more towards him not getting away. He would have been grid locked. If we are going to talk hoax, it seems more logical to me that all of them, Murray and the bodyguards, were working with Michael. I don't believe he took any propofol that night. Perhaps he decoyed the perps (and that very well could be AEG but I tend still to think bigger) into thinking he did and just dang got out of dodge with their help and the help of a lot of other people who many non believers feel are ignoring that a murder happened. Murray is too carefree and visible to have killed Michael Jackson. It doesn't fit. If AEG did hire him, then it was probably at Michael's insistence, after convincing them that Murray would do as he was told because he needed the money and since Michael knew Murray before he became his patient. Yes, we need certain things to be true for the hoax to work. But we don't actually know the answers... It'll be interesting to see what happens to Murray.
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« on: December 21, 2010, 05:50:09 PM »
Some of you have said that you don't believe Michael would allow people to get to him. However, that's just an opinion... And I personally see a reverse side to that particular coin:
Michael might just have been too tired of fighting, for years and years and years. He himself certainly knew that he was "worth more dead than alive" (that's true for ANY megastar once they reach 40-50, strictly financially speaking). He knew the estate was going to make lots of money and his children would be financially secure. What if he came to think that he was a burden for his children because of his fame, the catalog issue etc? What if he decided to let fate take its course? That is, he might have felt the end was coming and might have thought "so be it"...
Michael was an insomniac for many years, going back to when he lived at Encino (according to Katherine). He might just have gotten exhausted and pretty much sick of HIS life by age 50.
Just offering you another perspective.
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« on: December 21, 2010, 05:36:57 PM »
Anna: I think the discrepancy in what Riley is saying might come from the fact that to the mainstream media (Oprah, BBC) he has to claim that MJ is gone/dead, and it's only through social media like Twitter that he's expressing his true beliefs/knowledge. I don't quite know what to think of Riley myself... He does seem to be taking a risk. We shall see.
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« on: December 21, 2010, 05:24:54 PM »
I think Sony might have wanted MJ bankrupt (to force him into selling the catalog), but not dead - that wouldn't make sense because then MJ's estate would make lots of money and Sony would NOT get the catalog! And if there had been a real "hit" on MJ, they could have got to him a long time ago... Plane crash, car accident, something. Sony could well be "evil", most corporations probably are (they care much more about "the bottom line" than about people), but I don't think the theory of Sony wanting Michael dead makes sense.
Now AEG is a different story... If those guys realized MJ was not fit for the concerts, they might have had an interest in offing him. No concerts = no profit. Michael dead = big profit.
To the person who talked about "those guarding Michael": How do you know they were on Michael's payroll?! If Murray was paid by AEG, don't you think the bodyguards could also have been paid by AEG?
The question is indeed whether Michael really got away... He did seem exhausted at some points during TII rehearsals.
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« on: December 21, 2010, 04:44:22 PM »
Oh God, I'm so confused now...
So Luna is a believer, too? I always got the impression that she thought MJ was dead... :shock:
She always gives facts - with no conclusions... and I'm sooo bad at drawing up conclusions :lol:
I checked upon This Is It Production and there's a different site....
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interestingly their clients include AEG
Would you mind pointing me to where you saw that? I don't see AEG mentioned anywhere on the site, and I can't imagine AEG being a client of this apparently much smaller company...
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« on: December 21, 2010, 03:44:19 PM »
Great catch TheRunningGirl! My question now is when was this photo taken? Was it before or after BACK posted that?
This is the question looking4truth! And was the actual picture used by Back ever published?
Back posted this same picture twice, the second time was on May 31st 2007 in an article about the Sony/ATV venture. With a few words towards the end " Momma didn't raise no Nut--- or fool." (So witty always! :lol: :lol: :lol: - I Love Back under any disguise.)
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I am not aware of Back posting any other pictures.
With L.O.V.E
P.S. @ Sarahli --->
RunningGirl: Great catch and good questions! Do you know (or is there a way to check) what year that Norwegian paper is from? My impression is that it's from the 1990s, so that would be long before 2007 (when BACK posted that picture). As for whether the exact photo posted by BACK is in the public domain, I don't know... I've never seen it myself. :?
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