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Other Odd Things / Dancer said MJ didn't rehearse with them until STAPLES!

« on: March 07, 2010, 07:19:13 PM »

What the what? If you click on Kris's name the whole article will pop up and he states that mj didn't start rehearsing with the dancers until the staples centre. This means, if I am not mistaken that mj didn't rehearse with the dancers until June 23rd when the footage was filmed. I am sorry if this has already been discussed. So he rehearsed with the dancers once on the 23rd and there have been conflicting reports that he rehearsed on the 24th. I am quite shocked at this....what you guys make of this?

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Other Odd Things / Frank Dileo

« on: February 21, 2010, 02:12:08 PM »

Arnie Klein told Harvey Levin that Frank Dileo had called and spoken with Jason in his office on June 25th. Harvey asked Arnie on TMZ live to talk about what Frank Dileo told Jason had happened that morning to cause the propofol to be used. Arnie decline to discuss it and said he would come back to the show later to discuss it. Harvey knows what Jason was told by Frank Dileo but he wanted Arnie to tell us. So we know from this exchange that Frank Dileo is much more involved that he said said or else Jason and Arnie are lying. Let's say Frank Dileo did make the call to Arnie's office ( we have heard titters of such a call - Steve Hoeffliner stated that he thought Conrad Murray called Arnie to discuss the propofol that morning.) So from this let's hypothesize that Frank made the call to Klein's office FOR Conrad Murray. Also early on Brian Oxman even said that he thought Frank Dileo made the 911 call. We assume now he didn't but still for some reason Brian felt the need to say that. Both Brian and Steve Hoeffliner are close to the Jackson family so either they are trying leak info to make it SEEM like Frank Dileo and others were involved or they really WERE involved. Joe even said on Larry King Live that law enforcement needs to question Conrad Murray  more and we will get a lot more answers about what happened on that morning. Has anyone else heard anything else that would support the family's speculation that more people were involved than Murray?

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Other Odd Things / LAFD says they stabilized Michael

« on: February 16, 2010, 05:46:05 PM »

Great find from Venus7 and I apologize if this has been covered but Steve Ruda from LAFD says they had to work on MJ for the length of time they did to stabilize him and the hospital said there isn't more you can do for him in the field...let's package Mr. Jackson and take him to UCLA - so he is saying they stabilized him....wth???

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Other Odd Things / A question about Frank Dileo's call to Arnie Klein's office

« on: February 15, 2010, 12:09:38 PM »

I am sure that those of you who watched the Arnie Klein interview with TMZ will recall this but I have not heard of any follow up so I was wondering if anyone else had? Arnie said right on TMZ that Frank had called his office and I think spoke with Jason?? that day and said something to Jason?? about something that was happening to cause the propofol to be used. Arnie passed this along to Harvey so Harvey knows but Arnie clammed up and decided he'd better not say and said he'd come back and talk about it later. I think it's a huge piece of the puzzle for us. Do the authorities have this info do you think?? I have heard that the LAPD have spoken to Frank or Arnie as they are only concentrating on Conrad. I also wonder if Arnie said it deliberately on TMZ so the authorities would have to investigate Frank. He said that he believed that Conrad was the fall guy and he certainly wouldn't have been referring the other doctors and implicating himself.

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Other Odd Things / Metallic/Ceramic Restorations

« on: February 14, 2010, 04:52:17 PM »

I googled this because the autopsy said that multiple top teeth and some others had this restoration. That would explain why his teeth looked stunningly white at the O2. I then looked at a couple of pictures from This is it - the one where he is up close with a red jacket and a lollipop. I tried to get a peak at his teeth and they are dull and greyish and def do not stand out like at the 02. Just wondering if anyone else noticed that or am I making too much of it

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Other Odd Things / Propofol in bottle of urine found at scene

« on: February 13, 2010, 10:05:16 PM »

I noticed that there was some (maybe not much but some) propofol in the urine that was already in the container at the scene. Would that blow Conrad Murray's time line out of the water. He said he didn't give any propofol to Michael until 10:50 so that wouldn't give much time for 550 more mls to fill up into his bladder. The bottle in the room shouldn't really have any propofol in it since according to CM's timeline that would have been collected before 10:50 and he hadn't given him any yet. Just a thought...

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Other Odd Things / Pragmatically speaking Michael Jackson has to be alive

« on: February 12, 2010, 08:30:03 PM »

Point 1...The autopsy is fake or This Is It is fake.

If, as the "autopsy" states, MJ had pretty major lung issues, then he wouldn't have been able to pull off the training, reheasals and rigours of This is it - his lungs wouldn't have allowed for all the dancing and singing - ergo (since we all saw him rehearse and perform as did Kenny, the dancers, Lou Ferigno, AEG, all the industry people that were watching the performances and didn't hear a cough or a wheeze) the autopsy is fake.

Point 2...He was too sick in some way to be able to perform the 50 shows.

If as Karen Faye and This is not it and others state, he was in bad shape, missing rehearsals, using oxygen back stage, 108 - 111 pounds, being helped up stairs, hand fed, in addition to the fact that Dr. Murray said he was was giving him enough medication to kill an elephant every night as well as propofol which wouldn't have given him a real and restful sleep in 6 weeks, he would not have been able to dance and sing his way through This Is It, everyone would have realized he couldn't do the 50 shows and they would have realized they were going to have to cancel them. Sad and disappointing yes....the end of the world - no. So are you going to announce the cancellation to the world - that is an option...OR since Michael is ill in some way and a bit vulnerable and maybe not able to think clearly at the moment, are you going to hoax a more elaborate plan - like a hoaxed death.

Point 3...Evil Sinister Plot.

We cannot honestly really think ( or I hope and pray not) that sinister and evil forces sent home the sweetest most gentle guy in the universe to kill him with buckets full of propofol. Everyone loved him and contrary to hurting him they would be more likely to want to help him.

Point 4...MJ was healthy and it was an accident and Doctor Murray made a mistake.

He could make a mistake with a few ml here or there, but the massive amount stated in the autopsy would have to be poured in with a funnel and Dr. Murray has stated that he didn't give him anything that could kill him...in fact he gave him less than usual. So because we have ruled out the evil sinister death plot, then the autopsy can't be real. No way would there be propofol in his eye sockets unless there is an evil plot which we have ruled out.



Point 5...

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The Ambulance / AMBULANCE ARRIVING AT HOSPITAL

« on: February 08, 2010, 09:07:32 AM »

If you watch the you tube video of the ambulance unloading the stretcher at the hospital you will see someone holding up his jacket to sheild someone who is about to get out of the ambulance. You can only see the figure for a split second (dressed in black) but you can see his arm and shoulder...he has his arm up shielding his face and looks like his head is down. My question is....who would still be getting out of the ambulance...it looks like everyone is already out and heading in to emerg. Also, who would be getting out of the ambulance that needs to be sheilded by mj's body guard. Please take another look and let me know what you think. I am new here so sorry if this has been discussed.