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Other Odd Things / akon said mj would perform but not likely sing
« on: August 02, 2010, 03:47:58 PM »
Michael Jackson Won’t Sing Live, Akon Reveals
But he’ll definitely “perform” during “This Is It”
   
By Elena Gorgan, Life & Style Editor
1st of June 2009, 13:47 GMT
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As thousands of fans around the world are still in shock over the postponement of the first dates of the “This Is It” series of live performances, Akon is casting more doubt as to Michael Jackson’s ability to make it through 50 dates. According to the R&B star, the King of Pop will certainly not be singing live this summer at London’s O2 Arena, as a WENN piece reveals, as quoted by HollywoodRag.


 Fans looking forward to Michael exercising his unique voice might have to put their expectations on hold since chances of him actually singing live are close to none, Akon thinks. Still, the singer believes, that is not to say those who’ve bought tickets for the concert will be completely disappointed, since Michael will most certainly put on quite a show – the kind worthy of the one who has been dubbed the King of Pop and who still holds to this title after so many years in the industry.

“Michael singing I’m not so sure about. He will perform but not sing.” Akon reportedly said in a recent interview. Nevertheless, “it’s going to be amazing, I can definitely tell you that. I’m going to have front row tickets. I will have the best tickets in the house and will be so close to the stage you will think that I am on it.” Since this is not some unnamed “spy” dishing inexistent or improbable details to the media, but someone as famous as Akon (who even worked with Jackson in the past), it’s likely what he says is true, several US media outlets are pointing out.

Still, if this proves to be accurate, then it will surely upset fans a bit more. After all, it is being said, they have been promised the most explosive, unbelievably wonderful musical performance ever known to mankind and they rushed to buy the tickets for all 50 dates in just a couple of hours. Now that everything seems to point to this being not quite as organizers AEG Live described it, some angry voices are likely to be heard in the following weeks, word in the industry has it.

As fans must already know, the first dates for Michael Jackson’s “This Is It” have been pushed back on account of a scheduling conflict that did not allow the star to rehearse properly for the opening nights. The initial July 8 show will take place on July 13, and the following dates have been rescheduled as follows: July 10 for March 1, 2010; July 12 for March 3; and July 14 for March 6.

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Other Odd Things / Akon said MJ would never tour again...
« on: August 01, 2010, 11:37:19 AM »
I thought this was interesting because this was right about the time that Michael had signed on to the This is it tour and rented the house in LA...so by all accounts AEG thought it was a done deal. Privately however, he was telling his close friends he wouldn't be touring....Sounds like he knew he wouldn't be going through with it and I doubt it was because he thought he might "really die". He must have had other plans....


Akon: 'Jackson will never tour again'
Monday, December 15 2008, 12:56pm EST
By Lara Martin, News Editor

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Akon has claimed that Michael Jackson will never tour again because the media has destroyed his confidence.

The 'Right Now (Na Na Na)' singer, who collaborated with Jackson last year, said recent reports of a comeback tour are false.

"If you want quality concerts and quality performances [the media] have to lay off people," he told WENN. "Michael Jackson is the best performer ever and he can't even focus - you will never see another tour from him.

"[The media intrusion] plays a big role in that. It affects the people they're writing about. It's a lot to do with Michael Jackson not coming out and being open.

"I think all he needs is a record, one hit record then he might get his confidence back."

Akon recorded a remix of Jackson's 'Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'' for the 25th Anniversary reissue of Thriller.

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Other Odd Things / Special MJ tribute (imo) at Lady Gaga in Toronto
« on: July 13, 2010, 01:15:56 PM »
So I went to Lady Ga Ga last night in Toronto and of course before the show I was telling everyone how she was going to open for Mj at the 02...so everyone starting teasing and saying maybe he was going to open for her last night. Anyway....we were waiting for the show to start and there was a lull between the band that opened and Lady Gaga and I couldn't believe it but an MJ song played, and then another, and then another, and then another!!! There were 4 mj songs in a row. There may have been 5 but I was so freaked out by that time I don't know. Everyone I was with couldn't believe it. He did open for her - "sort of"! She must have REALLY loved him. Just think....of all the artists she chose only him to play before she went on. She could have mixed it up a little an played 4 different artists but no....only him!

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My moment with Michael Jackson
Ex-wife of superstar's brother brought me into family's world
By Tony Castro, Staff Writer
Posted: 06/30/2009 11:43:51 AM PDT
Updated: 06/30/2009 11:49:38 AM PDT

Almost two decades ago, an actress friend and I posed as a grieving couple at a grave site at Forest Lawn Memorial-Park in Glendale.
I was being wooed to write an unauthorized biography about the world's most mysterious man since Howard Hughes, and I had insisted on at least getting a glimpse of the subject, if even from a distance, before I signed on.

As it turned out, I would have a face-to-face encounter with Michael Jackson himself, if only for a fleeting moment.

He was among the Jacksons getting out of a nearby limousine to attend his grandmother's burial, and his path to her grave site took him past us. When he was inches away, he slowed almost to a stop for a split-second and looked at us.

My friend, a striking blonde from a popular TV show, could have that affect on people, which is why I asked her to join me. Michael was dressed all in black, sporting a black fedora, and his trademark black curls dangled over his forehead. He wasn't wearing the surgical mask that had become a part of his wardrobe, and for an instant our faces couldn't have been more than a foot apart.

The man looked like an alien. The skin was pasty. His eyes were lifeless. The famous nose job and jaw implant looked ruddy and rubbery. The only sign of color was the pinkish gloss on his lips. I half wondered if he wasn't wearing a mask.

He walked on to his grandmother's grave, and I momentarily made eye contact with the person in their mourning party who had tipped me off that Michael would be there - the person who wanted me to co-author the biography of Michael with her.

Enid Jackson, the estranged wife of Michael's older brother Jackie, nodded to me, and I acknowledged her.

This was how I had finally agreed to write "Michael: From Motown to the Moon," a 100,000-word book that was soon commissioned by William Morrow & Co. for a six-figure advance.

The book was never published for legal reasons and Enid died in 1997.

This set off 18 months of lengthy tape-recorded interview sessions with Enid and an array of Jackson family friends, disgruntled employees, former employees, lovers and ex-lovers.
As they say, hell hath no fury like a woman scorned, and Enid was that woman.

She had met Jackie in 1969 shortly after the Jacksons relocated to California from Gary, Ind. Enid Spann was then a student at Beverly Hills High School when she all but began living with Jackie at the home on Hayvenhurst Avenue in Encino, where she was practically another of Michael's older sisters.

Enid and Jackie married in 1974, a union that would fall apart in the late 1980s with Enid accusing Jackie of marital infidelity.

"I guess I could put up with that," she said to me in one interview. "But when it came to cutting me out of the money, that's where I get nasty."

By the time she approached me about the book in 1989, Enid already had a William Morris literary agent and a lot of potential interviews lined up.

I signed on board and into the bizarre world of celebrity biography.

I had actually met Michael in the early stages of his superstardom. In 1983, I had attended the taping of the Motown 25th anniversary show, and in the early hours of the following morning, after an exhausting marathon taping, Michael and his brothers wandered to an after-hours private party across the street from the Pasadena Civic Auditorium.

Michael had stolen the show, debuting his Moonwalk dance in the middle of performing "Billie Jean" from the "Thriller" album. He was ecstatic, too, thanking people who encircled their area for their compliments in that falsetto voice that became so familiar.

His nose was noticeably thinner than from the cover photo on his previous "Off the Wall" album, but I think none of us who were still there - from then-Los Angeles Mayor Tom Bradley to Playboy publisher Hugh Hefner - could have imagined what was to come.

From the family's Encino compound, Enid sneaked out years of home movies, videos and photographs of the Jacksons that documented the transformation. The Jacksons at Disneyland after-hours, the family at get-togethers, Michael and his brothers horsing around at home. They were from the early 1970s, when Enid went to live with the Jacksons, to 1990 and showed the pop icon from pre-teens to adulthood in his early 30s.

"It's as if Michael was black one day and white the next," Enid said. "He had the face that God gave him and traded that in for one that his doctors created."

That was why I wanted to see Michael at that stage when I told Enid I couldn't work on the book without seeing the metamorphosis for myself. "I guess when you see him every day or almost every day, it doesn't seem like he's changed that much," Enid said. "He's Michael."

Still, what Enid provided was just too good to be true. Handwritten notes from Princess Di to Michael on her personal stationery. Thank-you cards from Elizabeth Taylor. Private photographs of Michael with directors Steven Spielberg and John Landis and of Michael with one of his plastic surgeons, Dr. Steven Hoefflin.

Then there were the few real jewels. Sources like Chico Ross, Diana Ross' baby brother who had befriended the young Michael in 1969 when the Jacksons moved to California. Michael stayed at Diana's house for months, and he became the little brother Chico hadn't had.

Chico later spent much of his time at the Jackson's new house in Encino where he occasionally jammed with the family. He later played drums briefly with Kerry Gordy, the son of Motown founder Berry Gordy, in a band called Kryptonite, and dabbled as a Hollywood club promoter.

Chico's recollections of Michael in his young and middle teenage years were priceless, and his anecdotes painted a youngster who, for a short period of life, enjoyed the closest he would ever experience to a normal existence.

"Michael never had a real childhood," Chico said in an interview. "It was stolen from him so that there could be the Jackson 5 and later the Jacksons."

About this time, lawyers for the Gordys, the Rosses and the Jacksons had started a legal war against other recent biographies about Diana and Michael. One publisher was forced into a big settlement. Another biographer went bankrupt.

William Morrow & Co., my publisher, simply decided it wanted no part of it, ate the loss on my advance and never published "Michael: From Motown to the Moon."

In December of 1997, I got a telephone call from Enid, wishing me a happy birthday and apologizing for using me to get back in the good graces of the Jacksons.

"I've got even more and better material for another book that I want to give you to make it all up," she said to me. "It's a book and a film deal. "I'll treat you to lunch at The Ivy after the holidays and tell you all about it."

On Dec. 20, 1997, Enid died of a brain aneurysm in a movie theater bathroom.

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Other Odd Things / Did MJ "leave" on June 23 rd or 24th or earlier?
« on: June 27, 2010, 05:49:18 PM »
I know this has been discussed over and over but it is bothering me so much I had to post it again. I have heard it raised again from a few people lately. I was curious very early on because of the garbage - when Wednesday was garbage day, because of the airport slip up, because of a post about a gate at UCLA that read June 24th in an ambulance video, because of many of the comments from Mo and Souza about MJ possibly not living there, because of the amount of increased security mentioned by the followers on the night of the 24th (why unless something was already up?) because the followers weren't able to get to "michael" that last night or two (they would be able to sniff out a double) because that last night MJ had energy and was really happy and was on his game despite being drugged into oblivion for 6 prior weeks - a double would act differently and those at Staples noticed that he acted differently and smelled different, because Katherine was shopping at target the very next day, ( my grandmother died at 81 and I was incapable of talking or walking let alone shopping for days.), because later on the police allowed the family to enter MJ's house and root through what could potentially be a crime scene....leading me to believe that the crime scene had been dealt with and the family was now allowed to go in, because Joe is stating that Conrad Murray was drinking on the 24th and Geraldine said he was at a strip club....he could have been but who cares because he wasn't taking care of MJ that night...MJ was already long "gone", because none of the family can keep straight where they were when they heard - janet was in atlanta around the 25th so she would have to say that...but when she "really" heard something was up maybe she was in New York and woke up like any day, because Joe said "ya I said goodbye to him when he was up ....." and because the family are saying they saw him 2 weeks before he "died" which would make it end of May if they did see him at the restaurant for Joe and Katherine's party on the 14th and meet with Joe and Katherine on the 16th, (that would bring us to the "curls" on May 28th so maybe that was when the double was introduced) and although I could go on and on, last but not least, Craig Harvey emailed that MJ did indeed die on a day in June. He completely avoided saying the date.....I would like to know who else is thinking this too...

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I have been contemplating what we need to do if we really want to break this case open. Everything we have done to this point has been amazing and necessary to get us this far but I think we need a new approach as we head into year two. There are people who know more about what happened and I wonder how and when we are going to get the information that they know out into the public. Sadly we have learned more from Joe than anyone else as he is the one trying to expose the medical information and events that transpired that day at UCLA and he is the one that is being persistent about the charges to Conrad Murray and potentially AEG. Right now, whether it is motivated by money or not, the only person who is fighting hard for justice for Michael is Joe Jackson. I do believe that Michael is alive, so as others have mentioned,  Joe may not be privy to the hoax so he is out there alone fighting for justice. Since not everyone would be privy though...why is he fighting alone. Where other family members and friends. Who is Michael's advocate in a court of law. It's either part of the hoax that everyone would bring up the "Mike is an addict" so Conrad can't be held responsible and the charges just fade away into the sunset or no one is fighting for Michael but Joe. I am going to go with the former because it doesn't make any sense that no one would be fighting for Michael so it kind of helps to prove our hoax theory. Anyway back to the title of the thread.....does anyone have any ideas about how we can get the inside information that does exist but no one is telling us???? Or should we let it go because if we do solve it we could cause problems for Michael.

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Other Odd Things / watch Janet's idol performance and.....
« on: May 30, 2010, 03:37:17 PM »
close your eyes and think of Michael. What do you hear. I don't Janet that well but I heard her sing Nasty Boys right after this and I heard her at the AMA's. I didn't consider her to have had a voice so similar to Michael. Those on this site that are Janet's fans might be able to tell me differently and please do. My husband heard the idol performance and he doesn't know what to believe about the hoax. The next morning however her said "I had a hoax moment last night." He said that he could have sworn it was Michael's voice and he isn't at all wrapped up in this as I am and quite pragmatic. Anyway I played a you tube of the performance and while I did hear a slight resemblance to Janet...it seemed all sweet Michael Jackson to me. She was either trying really hard to sing like him or it was a recording of him. Sorry if this is posted before in this light.


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This is a very small point but it has been on my mind so I will put it out there to see what others think. I remember when the cameras pan inside Neverland that Michael had a lot of family pictures on a piano or table. Many are back in time and there are some black and white pictures of his mother etc. Anyway there is one of Michael alone and it's of him when he is about 10/11 and it's a closeup. It's not a family photo it's one that was out in the media. I know some people do put pictures of themselves up so I guess there isn't anything that stands out about that but I wonder why that picture. By his accounts that wasn't a great time in his life so it would be a constant reminder. I don't know just something doesn't sit well with me. My thought I will throw out there is that if the double theory started awhile back, is that picture of a young MJ on the piano or table a monument of sorts to the double? He is memorializing a whole bunch of his relatives and then bam a picture of him. Seems out of place with the theme if it's a pic of himself but it seems to be a perfect spot on his piano for a pic of a boy he loved be it a cousin/twin/friend/brother imo

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About half way through this article friedman writes that 2 days after mj died "Cascio along with Michael Jackson" filed some paper work  WTH! I can't see Roger making that kind of mis step but I don't him that well.

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Hope this hasn't been posted already from another newspaper sorry if it has but thought you might like to see it if you haven't already

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Other Odd Things / Strange View of Michael's Ear
« on: April 19, 2010, 07:11:45 PM »
I know this topic has been discussed ad nauseum however I couldn't help but post this for your comments - those of you who can still tolerate discussing it. To those who can't I am sorry but I couldn't help myself...I just need to discuss it one more time. Am I seeing it wrong or is there something amiss. Please look at 4:22 of this video by dmovie and stop the frame. This is a rare look at Michael's profile from the days when he wears the straight hair. His hair is blowing back. His face looks fine to me...he looks young and good but I couldn't help but think there was something with his ear. If I am seeing things just tell me.

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I am sooo confused about this. Just when I think i have it figured out something happens to change my mind. I really do think there are 2 Michaels as some of you are speculating. I am even pretty sure there could be 2 from the beginning. I have a theory on that but I am too afraid to say who I think it could be because it's offensive if I am wrong and I am upset with myself for even thinking it. Anyway back to my dilemma. Is there a Michael Joe and a Michael Joseph who are 2 different people? Let's pretend that everything that has been put out there can be believed. Here we go; since Michael Joseph has the death cert and the will in his name...I'll assume he is the one who died. If true then he is the one who is 5'9" since that is what was said in the autopsy. Deborah Landis and Zaldi have both measured him for costumes and they say he is 5'9". If were still going with this then we could say that Michael Joe did Thriller and costumes for TII were made for Michael Joe. Joseph married LMP (marriage cert) and Debbie Rowe and had the kids (birth cert). Then I get to the trial in 05 - he is 5'11' but in court docs he is Michael Joe so there goes my theory.  :| Unless Michael Joe was too upset to go to court and Michael Joseph allowed himself to be arrested in his place. Or unless a double was arrested and fingerprinted etc. How would they have known they had the real Michael Jackson that day? I read once that E Casanova was asked to do something in November 03. Is he 5'11'? I always thought the mug shot looked really different than any MJ I had seen up to that point. Thanks for reading.

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Other Odd Things / MJ had bedsores
« on: March 15, 2010, 09:11:14 PM »
Please see this video with Aphrodite Jones. She says that the autopsy said michael had bedsores from being in bed for so long recovering from the 2005 trial. Does anybody know anything about that. Was there a previous thread. I did hear that news at the beginning from Arnold Klein actually and didn't hear it again until now. The bedsore story was one of the reasons I first started to believe the hoax. I thought that the autopsy must have been done on an ill and bedridden patient. CAn anyone shed light on bedsores -can someone who isn't bedridden suffer from them?

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I am still having trouble believing that UCLA would allow Frank Dileo to tell Katherine and the kids that Michael had passed away. In no other hospital would they allow this so why would they at UCLA. It is always a doctor who tells the family and they never release information on any patients to anyone who is not a family member or that doesn't have a power of attorney. The family showed up pretty quickly didn't they...Latoya said she was 5 minutes away so why would the hospital not wait until a family member over the age of 12 was there to break the news. Now that we have heard Joe say that he thinks Frank Dileo is a bad guy...can you imagine how Katherine would feel hearing the news from him??? Why would the doctor not tell Katherine and the kids. Also not sure but I believe that the picture showing Katherine arriving at the hospital was taken at 3:30. At that point mj had been pronounced for an hour. Frank is basically telling us that the doctors told him first before Katherine and then allowed Frank to be the one to tell Katherine and the kids. Are there medical people out there who would be able to shed some light on how this could have happened??? I would appreciate some of your opinions...

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