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« on: June 15, 2011, 02:37:26 AM »
I believe that this was done by a kid, because everything looks so calculated. The clouds and hearts are very well done, but he can't write an E properly? Not saying that it is impossible, jsut that it is weird that he can draw such nice clouds and flawless hearts, but can't write his own name. I am not saying that little boys drawing hearts is wrong, just that it isn't very common. I don't believe this is real, but thanks for sharing. Much love to all!
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« on: June 10, 2011, 03:53:36 PM »
Yeah, I was thinking last night when I posted this, that perhaps someone and only that one person ( I do NOT want to flood Barry Gibbs with hoaxers) should try and contact him, through his youtube account. He says that he reads the comments on his page and videos, so I hink that he would read a direct message. I don't want to corner him, I just want to see if he knows anything. But than again, if Barry really believes Michael is dead, it would be very insulting to try and talk directly about how we think he is alive, plus if he does know anything, he won't talk and would probably still be insulted if we pushed him, because if he can't reveal the hoax than he won't and I don't want him being harrassed. Unfortunately some members have harrassed people they think are in the hoax in the past. It is just an idea, but maybe worth looking into? Hopefully I have not just ripped open Pandora's Box. Cheers beerchug and much love and blessings  bearhug
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« on: June 10, 2011, 12:46:10 AM »
I read somewhere on this forum, that the blonde lady has been debunked, that she was the wife of someone. I don't know what happened to the post, but I am horrible at finding things on forums, well I am kind of horrible at finding things in general, but I do know that the bonde lady has been debunked.
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« on: June 09, 2011, 11:21:51 PM »
I found these videos on youtube and I thought they were great. They were posted May 22nd, 2011 and they were recorded in December 2002. I apologize beforehand if this has been posted before, I looked around and didn't find it, yet I am the same person who wouldn't be able to find hay in a haystack  , so apologies if already posted. This is the first video: [youtube:62qxqp5h]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ruo8JetOex8&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:62qxqp5h] This is the second video: [youtube:62qxqp5h]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxd_PSjUwW4&feature=channel_video_title[/youtube:62qxqp5h] And this is Barry Gibbs website: You are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginHope you guys enjoy it, I think that it is really cool too see Michael at work. As always love and blessings!
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« on: June 09, 2011, 12:26:17 AM »
Beautiful post. Thank you for saying what a lot of people are feeling these days. It’s trying times for me. Don’t know whether to laugh or cry, celebrate or mourn. Guess like Elvis said, I’m all shook up elvis_/ Thanks! Everyone gets "all shook up" sometimes. I guess what helps me, is no matter what, good or bad, I know I am gonna be fine, because for me I have a belief and faith in something more, and I also have faith and belief in myself and that at the end of it all, we all die someday (very cheerful, huh? ) and that when we die, we all are united once more together in death. lol Much love and blessings to all!
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« on: June 06, 2011, 05:59:37 PM »
Thank you for writing this beautiful post. One know one thing Michael wanted the media to know what ever he felt like showing them. He was clever. Like Ted Reilly said in Oprah interview. Michael lives for contraversy. blessings. Haha, thanks for reading my post, it is extremely appreciated. Michael was very clever, lol, sometimes I shake my head at him, he is sooo mysterious, I wish could read minds, it would make everything much easier, haha Blessings to you also!
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« on: June 06, 2011, 05:51:35 PM »
I really love your message! You can see we all feel the same! Thanks for speaking for us! ^^
I selfishly want to meet him too for the same reasons you mentionned: to look into his loving eyes and thank him for everything. And I want to feel his energy. I want to see that white and shining aura. I wanna smell him! Caress and hug him! I never had the chance to. That's why I also love this part of your message:
(...) I am reminded that I am lucky to have known of your love and passion and for however short and small the amount of time, I got to be a part of your world. I hope that since I will never have the chance to tell you personally, that over the course of your lifetime, people have made it a point to tell you how much you meant to the world and never allowed you to forget.
It does help me to accept his death if it finally appears to be true. It was needed. Thanks for the love you spread.
Sophie bearhug I think we all struggle with our belief sometimes, it would be undeniably, and excruciatingly painful if we are all being led on this wild goose chase, because people wanted to take advantage of our love, and none of it ended up being true and he was really dead. So in an effort to protect our hearts and souls there is always this doubt in the back of our minds, just in case all of this is just a joke on us, than it won't be as painful because we always had this doubt. I don't know if there is much we can do, it is human nature to protect ourselves from pain, emotionally or otherwise, no one wants to have to relive the death of Michael twice. Personally speaking, I have already had to live through thinking he was really dead twice and I don't want to have do it again, which is why I wrote this letter the way I did, for just in case that he might actually be dead. I guess I am afraid of getting my hopes up, because it is painful when hopes come crashing down, and I think most of us hoaxers can relate to this. In other words I am very, very happy and grateful that my words have helped you. And thanks for spreading love back to me! Michael is such an inspiration for us!
The love messages of love for him are never enough!!
We love you more Michael! Thanks so much for replying and spreading love towards Michael and the rest of the hoax forum, love is always appreciated! Also many hugs and love to all of you! bearhug
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« on: June 05, 2011, 06:21:55 PM »
Whew, this is quite a clearly written and interesting post. Although, it’s a long one, it got my complete attention till the end.
Tabloids always print nonsense about all celebrities, but sometimes the tabloids/paparazzi/media congregate and focus upon a single person or persons and crucify them.
Now I have thought of some reasons for why they do this. Although the 2 reasons you described are the main reasons, I’d like to add a sub reason, which is that tabloids/paparazzi are aware of their power and take advantage (misuse) of the fact that public in general never give the crucified person the benefit of the doubt. It is exciting and sensational to believe the “bad” stuff about that person, using the weak excuse “when there’s smoke, there’s fire” (this is a Dutch saying, idk a similar one in English).
Again this supports my theory that Michael did these things, created illusion because he wanted to expose the corruption in the media, good ole’ Mike. I agree, it is very smart to create an illusion to distract or confuse the paparazzi/tabloids or to create inconsistencies in order to expose the corruption in the media and to diminish the power of the tabloids. The spring in Michael’s step You are not allowed to view links.
Register or Login and his need of assistance when coming down the stairs, during his visit at the Dome Project, is possibly an example of creating confusion, because it contradicts the reports of Michael’s good condition during the This Is It rehearsals around the same time. May be he got injured, though being aware the papz were lurking :roll: in the bushes , it’s very possible that Michael had his reasons to create illusion with his spring step. Thanks so much for reading and replying! I know it was long. I am glad you thought it was well written. Again, I always worry that I will confuse someone, lol, because my fingers can not keep up with my mind. Michael was indeed a mysterious person, a beautiful person, through and through, but I keep getting this nagging feeling that he allowed himself to be put in the situations that he ended up in, not because he wasn't smart or not in control, but because their was an important reason to do so. Like he took a deep breath and said "I could stop this but because _______ (important reason) I have to go through this." I constantly wonder about his life and what is real and what isn't. I truly believe he created illusions and such for an important reason. I wonder why, when, and what. I wonder what are the illusions and when they happened and I wonder why. Hopefully we will get to know the truth one day. Thanks again for reading and everyone with much love and blessings, keep the good hoaxing. I truly feel blessed, that I have discovered this forum. So thanks to everyone to welcoming me and reading my posts, thanks to Mo and Souza for such an amazingly well run and incredible site. bearhug Cheers! beerchug
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« on: June 05, 2011, 06:06:39 PM »
It's a wonderful msg Shayphelps93! A lot of people expressed their LOVE for Michael in such beautiful words, but whenever i want to write a msg to him, i become speechless! fresse/ I have no words to describe what he means to me.
One thing i'm sure of, is that i'm SO GRATEFUL TO GOD for letting me live in this particular time, for letting me hear and see Michael! And again i'm out of words fresse/
Beautiful msg Shayphelps93, REALLY!
bearhug Thanks so much! bearhug Grrr. I had just written a very long reply with love for you, but something happened to my computer :evil: and my message has been lost! But anyway I thank you, for your kind words and I thank everyone on this forum for being kind and loving. It truly feels great to be here surrounded by love and truth. To know Michael is to know love. To know Michael's fans is to know the truth and confirmation of his love. Glad to be here and glad to be sharing. Wonderful words !!!! bow/
I can only say ....Thanks Mike for being who you are ... your forever....love you.. bearhug
moonwalk_/ Thanks so much blankie for the kind words. bearhug I am truly grateful for the kindness of this forum, it truly feels wonderful.
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« on: June 04, 2011, 09:35:09 PM »
Michael, although you do not know this because you do not know me, but I call you one of the most beautiful men, that I have ever laid eyes upon, not because you are handsome, or because it is your name, but because it is your essence. Michael, in every way you prove that you are caring, compassionate, truthful, charming, loving, brave, intelligent, and inspiring. I find you to be the most beautiful man, I have ever come across. Michael, I and all of us fans across the world wish you love. Where ever you may be, I want you to know that you are loved, truly from the bottom of our hearts, minds, and souls. We rejoice within your legacy and revel in your humanity; we give thanks to the creator for creating you and give thanks to you for sharing your life with us. We thank you for inspiring us and offering us hope and love when we felt lost and alone. You are a one of a kind, unique and special man, and I will forever be changed because of the imprint you have left upon my soul. So selfishly I wish to have met you, to have looked you in your eyes and have been able to thank you, but as the morning sun breaks upon my brow, I am reminded that I am lucky to have known of your love and passion and for however short and small the amount of time, I got to be a part of your world. I hope that since I will never have the chance to tell you personally, that over the course of your lifetime, people have made it a point to tell you how much you meant to the world and never allowed you to forget. I close this short message filled with hope and determination, because Michael for as long as I and those around me continue your message of love, you will never die, for you will live forever within the hearts and souls of those that have been touched by your healing hand. I wish that there was some way, I could magically erase the moments of injustice and pain in your life that I could make everything better, that I could heal your broken soul. Michael although you have suffered, I can still do something, although I can’t erase the pain, I can allow your suffering to not be in vain. Because of you Michael, I and countless others have become agents of change within our communities, spreading love and awakening to others and healing the pain. You have brought much good to this world; this world has truly become a better place because you lived in it. Now, Michael rest your tired and aching head upon the lap of the creator and allow him to heal all wounds, allow your soul to become infused with strength and courage and come back to us, give us your message and teach us how to be better, and Michael always and indefinitely know that we have truly cherished and are grateful for all that you have given us.
Love Forever and Always
All of Us and Especially Me
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« on: June 02, 2011, 12:56:46 AM »
I have only just realized that I forgot to say. The only rumors that have ever been reported is that Jackson had started only two rumors, the other media/tabloid fodder ran with it and crucified him. I don't want people thinking that Jackson routinely went around starting rumors, if anything the only rumors he has been said to have said were only two, nothing else, but the media ran with it, without checking facts and reported lies and sensationalism. Just thought to clear that up. Also remember that this is only a theory and I could very well be wrong. Hopefully everything else I wrote was clear. It seems that my mind is always going a mile a minute and my fingers can't keep up and I always seem to forget to write/type things I wanted to or needed to. Again Blessings and Love to all!
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« on: June 01, 2011, 10:42:02 PM »
Michael: From Messenger to Message This is my theory. (Yes, another one ) Here I am connecting the dots. Now I don’t know where exactly to begin this thread. I suppose I could explain what prompted me to come to this conclusion. I guess the first dawning of suspicion came while watching Lisa Marie Presley’s interview with Oprah, in which she discussed for the last time her relationship with Michael. I suppose this interview was back in 2010. I want to point out a few things she said in this interview. • Michael is a master at manipulating the media • It was a survival tactic for him (to manipulate the media) • So that he could get where he needed to go in his career • (Oprah asked LMP why Michael would say that it was ok to share his bed with children) Michael would sometimes say things to be defiant because he was so angry Please put this in a file cabinet in your brain to refer to later. Another thing that put more suspicions racing through my mind is this whole Hoax. Now this thread won’t make much sense to you if you don’t believe Michael planned this whole hoax, down to last detail, himself. If you struggle with this concept, I warn you I will not offer an explanation or evidence on why/how/if Michael hoaxed this death. Please, if at this time, you find yourself unwillingly to believe he hoaxed his death, please browse through this forum and when you have discovered enough evidence to believe he did plan this death hoax, you can kindly continue reading. The only way this will make sense is if you believe he hoaxed his death, and that he planned his death. Ahem, back to my thread. This hoax is highly complex, and for lack of better words, insane. It would take a true mastermind to plan this hoax. Someone extremely intelligent and shrewd. Aright here we go again, I am sorry if at this point this thread does not make sense yet, I promise it will, Michael has a message for this world, and most people on this forum know this, because of his music, his interviews, and his words, but here it is very simply put by yours truly On many, many, many different levels and in all aspects of life, corruption and greed exists. And on many, many, many different levels and in all aspects of life, this corruption and greed is taking advantage of people, hurting people, killing people, killing life, hurting the environment, and killing the Earth. We must stop the cycle of abuse and hurt caused by corruption. We stop it with; love, compassion, forgiveness, hope, truth, and strength. We must stop this corruption and change this world back to good; we must heal the world and make a change, so that we may have a beautiful world that our future generations may enjoy. It all starts today and it all starts with you. This was is message, agree? All through Michael’s life (and death you may say) he has supported this message and tried to spread it through his music, short films, interviews, and words. Even back at a young age, Michael saw corruption and saw how it hurt this world and he wanted to help. He saw that people were blind to that truth. I remember reading an interview, where he said: “I hate to say it but the American people are brainwashed…” You must also remember where Michael came from. Michael and his family came from poverty. Michael himself came from abuse, neglect, and the absence of normal childhood pleasures. Michael was forced to perform every day and work hard at his craft. He loved to sing and dance, but he was forced to do it when he wanted to do other normal child activities, such as going to the park and having slumber parties. Michael’s childhood consisted of: school, chores, homework, pressure, fame, work, and abuse. Michael’s childhood did not have: friends, playtime, privacy, safety, father’s love. Michael did have many enjoyable moments in his childhood, he says so himself, and he was very blessed. Although his father was abusive, as hard as it is to comprehend, is that Joe did it out of love. As misguided as Joe was, he did love his boys. He pushed them so hard and threatened them if they failed, because he didn’t want his boys to have to raise their own children in poverty, he wanted his boys to be free from the things that held Joe back when he was growing up. Michael also had a very loving mother and good brothers and sisters. Being famous takes away your freedom, you can’t go out alone without body guards or a disguise, you can’t trust people because they take advantage of your fame and wealth, you lose sense of what is real and what isn’t, you are surrounded by people with fake smiles and fake love, just trying to use you, you can become extremely isolated because you are stuck inside and can’t meet new people, you get very lonely, not to mention, the media rips into you for every little mistake you make, you are forced to stand on a pedestal and bow and play puppet for everyone, you can’t run away, you can’t escape, you get to wake up every day and deal with it, because you have no other options, people have all these misguided preconceptions of who you are and what you are like, but they don’t even know you, they judge you upon these preconceptions and they judge you harshly, you feel as though you can’t let anyone down and you have all this pressure to always be better than before, and before you know it, your life no longer belongs to you. So let’s review, Michael suffered from loneliness, isolation, abuse, and the pressures of fame, but he suffered with a smile because he knew that this was his burden to bear in life. He was also humble because he recognized the good in his life and the good things that came from the bad, and he also recognized that there was something more than this, that he had a purpose in life, he had faith in God. So all in all, Michael was a pretty decent dude, despite the things he has had to deal with in life, he always kept love, compassion, forgiveness, and God in his heart. Also he has the utmost respect and love for his fans, because he recognizes that without them he wouldn’t have a career. Michael was not perfect, he was not Jesus, he made mistakes, but all in all he was a pretty decent human being. Sorry for going all worshipful on you all. I guess I am still connecting the dots as I type. So there is Michael for you, also let’s add he was deathly intelligent and talented also… (hint hint) So there you are, Michael went through his life, dealing with what he had to deal with, doing the best that he could, which was phenomenally well, if I do say so myself. But he always carried this message and faith in his heart. He had always felt that he had a purpose to fulfill in his life. He was the messenger. So here we go, my theory (yes finally, is there still anyone reading? Gah, I hope so) that at some point in Michael’s life, something happened, and he became the message. He became the message by his very own doing. Allow me to explain, Michael decided for some reason (?) that he was going to use his life and his very being to expose examples of corruptions that exist in this world. I feel that he exposed three main ones in his life. • The corruption of Government • The corruption of Media • The corruption of Corporations Let me start with media. (Remember the LMP interview mentioned earlier in the thread? Yeah, well, remove it from the filing cabinet) my theory is that Michael began to exercise control and manipulation over the media, by using himself as bait. There have always been rumors that Michael himself has started many rumors about himself. Such as the elephant man bones. My theory was that Michael started these rumors to see the media’s reaction of them, to see if they would research and do good reporting or would they in their corruption run to the printing press with no facts or evidence and spread lies. And he allowed himself to be the butt of the joke; he used his own life as an example to show that the media is corrupted, that they would print anything regardless of truth just to make money. Allow me to show the thought processes that lead me to this conclusion. Celebrities have PR people right? Celebrities pay thousands of dollars to have their image protected. Tabloids always print nonsense about all celebrities, but sometimes the tabloids/paparazzi/media congregate and focus upon a single person or persons and crucify them. Now I have thought of some reasons for why they do this. 1. The people/person that is being targeted is not stable enough to protect themselves, or is unable to protect themselves from the crucifixion. Either due to being in a vulnerable spot, caused by addiction, mental illness, or trusting the wrong people, they have become vulnerable and unable to protect themselves. 2. The person simply refuses to acknowledge the torrent, instead allows the tabloids to go hog-shit because they feel silence is defiance. Not acknowledging it means that you take away the power of their words because they mean nothing to you. The media loves to attack people who can’t protect themselves or refuses to protect themselves, because it is easy. Tabloids usually don’t crucify people who can and are willing to protect themselves, because celebrity PR’s can buy out tabloids or threaten them with law suits to keep their tabloid fodder relatively silent. PR’s in theory could eradicate tabloids, but it isn’t really necessary to do so, because as long as the there is no media crucifixion, than the celebrity’s image is pretty well protected, plus many celebrities have deals with tabloids to get publicity when they need it. P.S. Michael seems to have the worse P.R. team in the word, uh? Now I sit and try to figure out in which category Michael belongs in. Well not in category two because, Michael defends himself through his music and is always consistently speaking out on tabloid trash. (Although we can see here that he never, at least to my knowledge sued a tabloid). The only other option is category one. Hmmm that makes sense, right? Poor Michael tries so hard to defend himself against the trash the media puts against him, but he is so vulnerable and such a victim who always trusts the wrong person that he is constantly taken advantage of, so he can’t stop the media. Does this meek, vulnerable, weak, naïve person sound like a person who could pull off an elaborate and incredible death hoax? I want to also bring attention the that very same LMP interview discussed earlier, where Lisa Marie explains that people always underestimate Michael, but that he was an extremely good businessman that he was very shrewd and knew how to get exactly what he wanted. She said that he had a lot of power and knew how to use it. The way Lisa Marie describes Michael sounds exactly like the kind of person that could pull of a death hoax, right? But this Michael does not sound like the Michael that can’t defend himself against the media, that is naïve and vulnerable, that is constantly taken advantage of; can this be the very same Michael? I beg to differ (muwhahahaha! …whoa, uh… where did that come from…? I got a lil’ carried away I think) Michael manipulated and controlled the media and the public and fooled them into thinking that he was meek and vulnerable, so that he could demonstrate the corruption in the media, so that he could show that the media truly does take advantage of those who can’t defend themselves, all for the sake of money. He used himself as the example. Whew. Alright, still with me? He used illusions to create this meek Michael. Yes, Michael was a good person, kind and caring, but he wasn’t naïve, and he wasn’t stupid. I would like to call attention now to a thread I was reading by Souza, about body doubles and makeup/prosthetics. Now I believe there is every chance that Michael used a combination of both to create Michael Jackson – The Meek. Souza did a good job showing that Michael had an ever evolving face (that changed back and forth, mind you) over the course of months, weeks, and even days. Something is going on there right? The illusions (make-up/body doubles?) he used to create a Michael that is vulnerable. She also pointed out that in some 2005-2009 era pictures that he looked only like an older version of his Bad era self and I can only assume that that is the true Michael, no illusions, and Souza also pointed out that Michael probably did not get any more plastic surgery since then. I think the plastic surgery rumors (probably fueled by his ever chameleon like face) were used as a way of making him look meek and unsteady (Poor Michael, only someone who is so mentally unstable would get so much plastic surgery) Again this supports my theory that Michael did these things, created illusion because he wanted to expose the corruption in the media, good ole’ Mike. Let’s move on to the corruption of corporations, only one word for you Sony. Have you seen Michael’s very public speech against Tommy Mottola? He speaks passionately about the corruption Tommy Mottola brought to Sony, and he also mentions the fact that Sony had thought that he wasn’t smart enough or aware enough to realize what was going on, but low and behold, Michael shed meek Michael that he had embodied to expose media corruption and adapted Michael – Resolute, let’s call him, to expose the corruption of the corporation Sony. This Michael was obviously very aware, very intelligent, and proved a very good business man (Again he was able to walk away with half of Sony, but can’t protect against the media, yep, so untrue) He walked away from that lawsuit with half of Sony, which on a side note another illusion Michael created was that he was poor, how in the heck are you poor, when you own half of Sony? Sorry, continuing on. Government Corruption, we all know it exists, but Michael definitely calls it out in his music, and brings awareness to police brutality which is an example of government corruption. Now I am not sure how exactly government corruption touches on his life, but he definitely addresses it in his music, which leads me to think that he has seen/experienced government corruption. I have a feeling that as we go along in this Death Hoax, that Michael will undoubtedly expand more on corruption, and educate us on the corruption that is rotting this Earth inside out. Again to recap, I believe that Michael used to act as messenger, but at some point in his life, he became the message, and his death hoax may have always been a part of his message. I truly believe that good changes are going to come out of this and that this will be one of the greatest demonstrations for freedom this world has ever seen. Knowledge is freedom. Remember to keep on investigating and I truly feel blessed to be a part of this hoax forum. I may not be right in my theory and may have become too carried away, but if you feel like I missed anything please let me know. God Bless, Happy Hoaxing!
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« on: May 29, 2011, 06:08:17 PM »
Hello! I don't doubt that the dark side will hijack anything that is good so that it serves their cause. It's very possible that the term Illuminati and its Order is more ancient then what we are thought....the dark side is known to have shaped history so that it fits their plan. Now what would be the point to do that? Are the good Illuminati still active? I would understand that hijacking their name would serve as a way to discredit them...but we don't hear much about the real Illuminated...so where are they? Maybe it's just in front of me and I don't see it....or maybe they work in secret as well? Now I understand that blaming a group of people for all the plagues on earth is not the solution. A lot of people actually comply with the rules the dark side has set for us to operate with and the fact to not stand up and say stop is also a problem. I believe the original Illuminati is still around. I also believe that there are many groups who claim affliation with the original Illuminati, and that some of these groups are good, and some of them are not so good.
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« on: May 29, 2011, 02:13:30 AM »
This is what The Illuminati stands for: An order that believes in the individual rights and freedoms of people. An order willing to stand up, educate, and create a world of educated and free people. An order that fights for the abuses and oppression of corrupted governments and individuals to come to an end. An order that will fight for the people who have had their voices taken away unfairly by the corrupted. An order that believes in truth, and believes that knowledge is freedom. An order that fights for a free world, in which opinions and ideas may be freely shared without fear of persecution, solutions to issues and problems may be solved by the minds of different and unique individuals, in which the diversity and uniqueness of this world may be celebrated instead of hidden and oppressed. An order that will fight for the basic rights of human existence, that the very laws of the country promised to us, but have since disappeared.
The Illuminati would never participate in mind control, oppression or NWO powers. It goes against everything they stand for.
Actually, illuminati is a:
The Illuminati (plural of Latin illuminatus, "enlightened") is a name given to several groups, both historical and modern, and both real and fictitious. Historically, the name refers specifically to the Bavarian Illuminati, an Enlightenment-era secret society founded on May 1, 1776.
In modern times it is also used to refer to a purported conspiratorial organization which acts as a shadowy "power behind the throne", allegedly controlling world affairs through present day governments and corporations, usually as a modern incarnation or continuation of the Bavarian Illuminati. In this context, the Illuminati are believed to be the masterminds behind events that will lead to the establishment of a New World Order.
My theory:
My theory is that corruption exists in all aspects of life, that individuals can become so corrupted they could/would commit terrible crimes for greed and power. That brainwashing and manipulation exists and has been implemented by various groups of individuals or just individuals acting alone, in different periods of time. Anyone can become corrupted, it is very easy to fall into a pattern of disregard for life and a love of power and wealth. I believe that people can fall victim to this corruption, but I don't believe that a person can become so evil, that redemption is impossible.
Right. Corruption exists from the times man kind exists on the world.
I do know what the definition for the Illuminati is, thank you. What I have told is what the original Illuminati stood for, they were against oppression and believed in the right to freedom and truth. The term Illuminati is being used for different groups, that according to conspiracy theorists, use mind control and oppression because they want world dominance, but that is not what the original Illuminati stood for, and those who use the Illuminati's name sake for corrupted deeds, do not follow the original doctrines of the Illuminati, or morals and values the Illuminati is supposed to stand for. That is all I wanted to point out. I feel the name Illuminati is being dragged through the mud, because someone somewhere said the Illuminati is behind all of these awful things and that they want to oppress and control the world. The name of Illuminati stands for illuminating, as in enlightenment. They wanted to empower the people to create a world of freedom and truth, not corruption or oppression. I just wanted to make it aware to people that the term Illuminati, originally stood for freedom, and originally that is what the Illuminati Order stood for. Blessings and love for all!
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« on: May 28, 2011, 08:39:18 PM »
But you're right, everyone has the potential to become corrupted but thankfully there are those in this world who refuse to be. And I think Michael is one of those people. Absolutely!!! Michael is a person of extreme character, a very good person and thanks for reading! Blessings and love
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