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« on: June 27, 2011, 01:37:36 AM »
Mike did not want to film the music video and point blank refused to do it and that is why they used the dummy. Which is really weird......... lol. But that is what I have heard anyway, that Michael refused to do the music video so they used a dummy. God, that is just so weird!!!!!
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« on: June 26, 2011, 10:57:19 PM »
Well, I think it is funny that the author of this article said, The Michael Jackson of 2009 bares next to no resemblence to the one of 1999, 1989, 1979, or 1969. And perhaps it was a mask Cause' this is exactly what I believe. It was all a mask, Michael was not broke at the "end of his life", Michael was not a drug addict at the "end of his life", he was not the victim, he was not crazy, he was not out of touch with reality, he was not nuts. This was just an illusion, he wanted the general public to percieve him to be like this but this was the farthest thing from the truth. I wrote a post about it, explaining. Lisa Marie Presely said that Michael drank beer and cussed, lol, that he was a normal guy! I just think it is interesting that the author expresses the fact that the Michael the general public "knew" was just an illusion, a mask. Kanye West of course did not kill Michael, since he is still alive. Killing one of the most influential and beloved human beings alive just to support some song lyrics isn't plausible, lol, or rational  . There is no evidence of a motive to suggest that it would be beneficial for Kanye West to murder Michael Jackson, actually there would probably be a very negative backlash if Kanye West tried to murder Michael Jackson. This article does bring up alot of truth. I am tired of the "Michael Jackson is a child molestor" jokes, because they just aren't funny or truthful. Also the author is right, where are all of his so called friends, defending him against the vicious rumors and jokes? There are only a few defending him and that is sad. Again thanks all4loveandbelieve for keeping us up to date on the articles being posted.
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« on: June 26, 2011, 07:55:25 PM »
I had a dream Michael related. I don't dream often, so I feel it so strange that when I finally had a dream that it was Michael related, lol. This has been my first and so far only dream involving Michael. (That I remember  ) So here goes: In my dream it is dark, as if the sun is just about to come up or just went down. So there was a faint glow on the horizon that made everything visible, but you could still see that it was dark. I am at Neverland Ranch. I am walking around searching for something. I come to realize that there are children around me and grasping at my arms and hands and clinging to me as I walk and search. They seemed to be excited, nervous, and also a little afraid. As I and the children walk around Neverland Ranch (I am on the grounds by the way. I am not in the house or in any buildings. There is only an open field of grass and trees, yet I know I am on the grounds of Neverland Ranch), I realize that there are more and more people all around me, walking around and searching for something also. They are children, adults, elderly people, women, men, girls, boys, black, and white. There was some of everyone there, not just children and not just adults, but a mixture of all, and they were diverse. They were also searching for something. At some point the people searching notice me and they swarm around me and begin asking many, many questions about Michael. For example, roughly these are some questions I remember. "Will he love us?" "Will he hate us?" "Is he a good person?" "Is he kind?" Etc. and etc. the questions went on. I answered them. "Yes he will love us." "No he does not hate us." "He is a very good person." "He is very kind." I answered reasuringly and positively. The questions were all about Michael, and my answers reflected that Michael was a kind, caring, and good person. That he loves us all, and that he is here with us. For some reason, it felt like even though we all were searching for something, we all were waiting for something also. After waking up and examining the dream, I surmised that we were at Neverland Ranch, searching and waiting for Michael to return. That we were nervous, scared, but also excited. The people were worried that for some reason Michael might hate us or be angry with us, or that Michael was cruel. They were all there because they couldn't resist Michael or his message, even though they did not entirely understand Michael or the reason why Michael did all of this, they were still there, because they were powerless to be anywhere else. I also realized that the people there didn't trust him, but that they loved him and that no matter what, no matter how much they wanted to leave or wanted to hate him, they couldn't. So they all searched for him because they want to know why Michael did this. And when they asked me those questions, they wanted reasurring that Michael wouldn't hurt them or be cruel to them, that even though they did not entirely understand or trust Michael, that they were going to be ok. And I reassured them. I don't know why I was surrounded by children, I don't know why, when people saw me, they questioned me and only me. I am guessing that I dreamed that I was at Neverland, because I think subconsciously that is where I believe Michael is, and subconsciously where I believe he will return. I am guessing that it was dark except for the horizen because subconsciously I believe Michael will return soon, and in my dream the sun was just about to rise because Michael was just about to return. That all these people were there because they were waking up to Michael and his message, but they still did not see clearly or understand fully, but still felt him. I had this dream a few nights ago. Any opinions, obserations, or interpretations?
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« on: June 25, 2011, 08:53:06 PM »
First Question: When were these photos taken?
Comment: Neverland also looked very nice and well kept right after Michael died when Jermaine gave his Larry KIng interview.
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« on: June 24, 2011, 04:15:10 AM »
Whoever told her that it was worth 2 million dollars was lying through their teeth. The Thriller jacket worn in the music video is only worth 200,000, so there is no way a jacket worn once by Jackson during The Jackson's era for a T.V. show that wasn't very memoriable, would be worth 2 million dollars. I don't want to be mean, or anything, but it never really belonged to Michael in the first place, it was picked out for him, for him to wear only once for a forgettable T.V. interview. It is cool that he did wear it, but Michael probably wouldn't recognize it, he only wore it once, ya know? lol. I am happy for the family though, it is awesome to find MJ related memorbilia, because even though it isn't worth much money-wise, to a fan it is priceless. I remeber my mom telling me, months after June 25th, 2009 that she had met him and got his autograph. I looked at her, with a crazed expression on my face, because I had been mourning him forever and she chooses now to tell me, that I have a priceless Michael Jackson autograph sitting in our decaying attic! I tore that attic apart for that autograph, and I can't tell you how excited I was when I finally got my damn hands on. It is from The Jackson's era. It has all of the Jackson 5's autographs on a booklet full of pictures of the Jackson 5, except for Jackie, we have Randy Jackson's instead.... and a person named Larry Jackson (?), anyway, and there all these pictures of my mom posing next to the Jacksons, and the autographs. LOL, there was no other feeling like it, to be able to hold a small, tiny, micro ammount of Michael's legacy. That damn autograph is mine! Well.... it's technically my mom's, but when she dies (God Bless her soul) It's Mine!!! Oh no, wait.... than it goes to my brother, but when he dies and I am in my late 70's, it will be mine!!!! Oh well, she lets me hold it sometimes! 
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« on: June 23, 2011, 04:35:41 PM »
I don't think is necesary to post the letter here... you could make a reference but the letter is horrible and full with lies...
love to all
Tell me why I shouln't have copied the letter in this forum? I think everyone should know what is going on right? Like they say don't shoot the messenger.. For who think I DID NOT WRITE THIS LETTER, AND IF YOU CAN SEE I COPIED PASTED THE LINK THANKS.
I know you didn´t write the letter, I just say that [glow=red:1ul9rt1i]I think is not necesary[/glow:1ul9rt1i]... respect/
I am respect/ing you.. I just wanted to know why, and you are not giving me a valid reason. I am aloud to post what ever I see fit, like anyone else does. I never told them what they should post or not to post. Thank you for reading it and all my blessings.
I think is not necesary because we know is BS, and we are making a favor when we repost this to the people who write this BS... thats what they want, they want make some noise... i know you have a good intentions... (sorry, english is not my language and i have a lot of things to say to people who write this kind of things but I donpt know how to say it in english)
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I don't see anything wrong with you posting the letter. We need to stay informed and on top of everything, even if what we are reading or seeing is hurtful, we still need to read it, and we still need to know what it says. Of course we know it is BS, but I had no idea this letter was even written and I am glad all4loveandbelieve posted it, so that I am informed. The truth hurts, but I would rather have the truth than anything else, information can sometimes be sickening, but we still need to be informed. Who wants to read and see about the war? I still do, because it is my responsibility and my right to stay informed. Information is freedom, and I don't like how everyone is attacking all4loveandbelieve just because they can't handle the information. It does seem cruel to post it, but we need to be informed. Also I think the person who wrote this is seriously misinformed and confused, I don't think that they meant it to be malicious, I just think they have no idea what they are writing and probably doesn't even realize that it is posted on some forum somewhere. I don't think posting this is giving any power to the media, because this did not come from the media, it came from a seriously misinformed person. Paris and Prince probably realize that there are people in this world like the person who wrote this, and I think that know how to handle sh*t like this, they have had to learn how to do it from a young age, so I don't think this affects them very much.
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« on: June 23, 2011, 01:41:39 AM »
They act very mature If this refferes to Paris' twitter I have to say it looks way too mature to me.
She is only 13.....how can she possibly know about the real meaning of some songs? OK maybe Michael teached them all sort of things but still I find it odd because, as she says, she was 10-11 years old at that time .....
Plus children have a pure mind so it makes it more difficult maybe to understand some things about the real world we live in
I believe it is her, because TMZ posted pictures off of this account in an article and said that they got it off of Paris Jackson's twitter account, so I assume they are talking about this one because this twitter account is the only one with the pictures, you know what I mean? You wouldn't believe the things I understood at 10-11 years of age. Children are capable of understanding things, very capable. Also, children are human beings, so they are capable of making mistakes and messing up, so I don't think children always have a pure mind, they are human! They aren't as twisted and corrupt as some adults, but as soon as children start socializing they pick up on things from the adults around them and they also pick up how to interact from other children around them. Trust me, I have known some very advanced manipulating 6 year olds, lol, its human nature. Another also, when I have read Paris' tweets, she sounds alot like other teenagers I know. Yes it is mature, but she does sound like a teenager, enjoying herself. On her last day of school she twittered "Free!!! free, I tell you, free at last", sounds just like any other kid, happy and excited for summer break.
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« on: June 22, 2011, 09:21:47 PM »
@pariisjaxn
Paris Jackson Millions of people listen to songs and remember the lyrics, but they hardly ever understand their meaning.
13 Jun via web This is a tweet Paris twittered. Now last night I was looking through the Illuminati section of the forum reviewing things and watching videos, in one of the hoax videos I was watching, this same exact message "Millions of people listen to songs and remember lyrics, but they hardly ever understand their meaning" was in it. I can't find the damn video again, cause I don't remember where exactly it was, if someone could find it, I would be much obliged. But isn't that strange. Paris tweets something from a hoax video, word for word? She must be watching the hoax forum. And I agree, that family members are just playing their parts, because they have to. They need to cry and say that MJ is dead, because it is their role, for some reason, MJ needs some to think he is dead, but gave hints to us because for some reason he needs us to know he is alive. It is his plan, and we are all just apart of it. I am not sure what the man is trying to do, but he is trying to create and accomplish something... Oh and P.S. His children are the sweetest kids on Earth. They treat the crazy, obsessive MJ fans so tenderly, always tweeting back, "I love you more" or "I love you too". They act very mature, and they handle the fame caused by having a famous father very well. Also it is so sad to see the disrespect some people are giving them on twitter, typing that their father was a pedophile or worse making fun of her because her father is "dead". God, what kind of people are like that!? Poor kids...  It makes me sad to see thatmuch disrespect and hatred towards kids! Anyway there is my worthless two cents.
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« on: June 19, 2011, 09:26:43 PM »
[font=Lucida Sans Unicode:3dz21vwy]Wow, that is a scary thought. If the world does really experience an apocolpyse in 2012, I don't think I would commit suicide, I would do everything in power to keep fighting. Because if I died fighting to survive than I would know that I didn't just roll over and play dead. (I guess some people are forgoing the "play" part and opting to truly just be dead) This is sad. I don't think the end of the world is going to come in 2012 anyway. The only end of the world scenario I can think of, is by human hands. And I don't think human error resulting in the end of the world can truly be predicted. Hmmm, still to think people are killing themselves over the fear of something that may or may not happen, is very, very sad. God bless those people and rest their souls. It makes me scared for December 2012, I hope people won't be acting like this.... pale/[/font:3dz21vwy]
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« on: June 19, 2011, 01:14:54 AM »
Michael used doubles for getting out of a building for safety issues but I do not believe in doubles in TII and at 02. I see the same Michael, no difference at all. Impersonators can imitate Michael BUT ANYONE can have the same bone structure like Michael. Bring me the impersonator who looks like Michael the most and show me his hands. I can tell you if that is Michael or not. Let's say that they changed everything the impersonator had with surgical operations and made him look like Michael but how could they do his fingers and hands look the SAME like Michael's? He has a very unique finger shape. His fingers are curved and long and I saw NOONE, no body double or impersonator who has those type of hands. His hands make him recognizable the most. I do not see anything different in him other than the wig at 02. Except his physical appearance, I also do not believe that Michael would deceive his fans by not getting on stage himself. It's been so long that he didn't make a statement like this directly to the fans, so I'm pretty sure that he was so excited to meet the fans again. He wouldn't miss a thing like this and disrespect the fans by using an impersonator. My thoughts exactly. I just can't bring myself to see Michael using body doubles unless for safety reasons like you said, leaving buildings and such.
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« on: June 18, 2011, 06:59:07 PM »
You have to take into account that it may not have been Michael's choice for the footage to be shown. Sure, but I do believe that it was Michael's choice for the footage to be shown, because of the five very expensive cameras he used to document his rehearsals. Why use 5 cameras if it is for your own personal use. And why 5 extremely expensive cameras? That leads me to think that it was always suppose to be a documentary. And, I guess I am more talking about appearances of Michael accepting an award or speaking, that people are claiming isn't him. Not just O2 and TII. beerchug Cheers!
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« on: June 18, 2011, 03:27:27 AM »
Well put! Every nuance, every gesture, every slight body movement, every word, every giggle, every inch of skin, every piece of fashion, is him. What double could come even close to that magical charismatic performance? Exactly!!!!!!!! I never quite understand doubles and impersonators, no matter how good you are, you will always be second rate. Because only Michael Jackson can be him as I can only be me, and you can only be you, others may come close, but they will always fall short. I just don't believe all the rumors of he used a body double there or that isn't really him. I guess I am just sooo tired of impersoators, you know? They should be the first rate version of themselves instead of the second rate versions of Michael, plus they confuse me. I want to be able to look at a photo of Michael, and not have 10 people go oh, no that isn't really him, just an impersonator. I don't want to have to check every MJ photo to make sure that it is really him and no one else. I just want Michael to be able to be Michael. Sorry, lol, the topic of body doubles/impersontors just really irritates me, lol, I don't mean to push negativity off on anyone. I am just a lil' tired of the doubles, you know? Much love and blessings to all!
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« on: June 18, 2011, 01:20:12 AM »
I decided to post my feelings on this subject, even if they go against public opinion. Now I know this isn't a theory, or some piece of the puzzle, and really, it is irrelevant to the whole hoax. These are just my emotions, I am not sure if they really have a place on this forum, or not. I do not want to irritate people or make anyone angry, I just want to get this out of my system.So again, this isn't really important to the hoax, so you can move on and not read if you dont want to. I promise I won't mind. Okay, so here goes. I can not believe in the double theory. I do not know Michael nor I will I probably ever know Michael, so I can't say for sure, but I don't believe that Michael is a liar. A prankster, sure. An illusionist, yes. A joker, of course. But a liar? I can only imagine Michael lying if it is very important and there isn't a better option. (Please, I know that of course he lied sometimes about little things, we all do! He isn't God, nor is he an angel) Would Michael use doubles? Yes, for safety reasons, all famous people have body doubles to trick the media and such for safety, but did Michael use a body double for the O2 announcement? Plus all the other times hoaxers insist on the person not being Michael. Would Michael put a double on stage to rehearse/speak/perform on his behalf? For the love of God I sincerely hope not. That in my opinion would be an ultimate betrayel. People have stood outside for hours in the rain, and paid ridiculus amounts of money, and have done crazy things to go to a concert, or see him speak, or watch him rehearse, they have cried and screamed, and been crushed by this overwhelming sensation of "Oh my God, its Michael, I LOVE him". And as much as I think they are a bit on the overly obsessive, crazy side I can't help but feel crushed and hurt for people who went through all the trouble and emotion just for a double, for a second rate version Michael. P.T. Barnum, never agreed with tricking the public. Barnum love making money, but he made sure that if people were paying for his shows he would damn sure make sure that what they were going to see would be worth their money. A body double/impersonator isn't worth any money, if the audience doesn't know he is a double. This seems cruel and heartbreaking to fans all over the world, who love him so much, that their cherished memories, photos, and experiences, have all been with a fake Michael and not the real one. This overwhelming sense of betrayel is why I can not accept that he used body doubles in his performances, or accepting awards, or speaking, or singing, or anything else that people claim isn't the real Michael. Maybe he did during the O2 annoucement or in TII, for the purposes of the hoax, but really people? I can not believe that he would be so cruel to his fans. Again I don't know him personally, but it is hurtful to think that he would do that. People's emotions are so fragile, especially if they think they are meeting their childhood idol, and I think it is cruel that he would callously trick those people. Please, any thoughts or ideas about this, do you think he did and why, and do you think its cruel for him to do this. As always much love, admiration, and blessings to the hoaxing community and to Souza and Mo who maintain this amazing sight.
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« on: June 17, 2011, 02:56:52 AM »
For some reason I find it shocking that people still think that he was guilty, I don't know why, I just sit there thinking, "Wow, you still think he is guilty". It isn't like they are saying it is in a malicious way, they just mention it like fact, they aren't being hurtful per say, but they speak as though he was guilty. They don't go on and on calling him wacko or a pedophile, it is just like "Oh yeah, too bad he turned out to be a child molestor." I know some people are very malicious to him. But I guess what I am trying to say, is that I think it is weird that people who never really paid attention to the trial or pop culture, and don't really have an opinion, bad or good, about Michael, think that he is a child molestor, they aren't mean about it, thats just what they have been told, you know? It never really affected their lives, they just occasionally would see a headline saying Michael was guilty and think, oh well that is too bad, anyways I have to pick up the kids and go grocery shopping, because mother is staying with us next week and blah blah. Oh no, I guess I am doing a horrible job of explaining myself. I guess it just blows me away, that people can be so unaffected when comes to Michael, "Oh yeah he was talented, too bad how is life ended up, but moving on now...", I remember a moment in my life, as we all do, when Michael consumed my every waking moment, and the fact that some people forget he ever existed. It is just weird to think about that difference. We have people who love Michael, truly with all their souls, and than we have the very same people, who forget that he existed. Sorry, just a weird thought that drifted into my mind. Oh another thought, isn't it weird, how Michael is literally apart of everyday language, that in some context he is mentioned some way everyday, by nearly everyone, but people don't know who he really is, not even his fans? Sorry your post just put these thoughts in my mind. I hope I make sense! lol And thank you very much for calling attention to this, I think that we need to bring awareness to the fact that he was very inncoent all his life.
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« on: June 15, 2011, 02:54:49 AM »
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This is the Great Seal of the United States of America. It was designed by the Freemasons and contains a mass of symbolism that the profane (non masons) are not to understand. This article will once and for all prove that the Seal is a Masonic design. Have you ever asked the question 'Why is there a Pyramid on our $1 note"? The religion of Freemasonry and some of it's mysteries have descended from ancient Egypt whose mysteries descended from ancient Babylon. The Pyramid has of old been a fascination of Freemasons. It is a pagan temple of Satan worship. Aleister Crowley, Freemason and chief Satanist of the 20th Century performed a satanic ritual in the Kings Chamber. The Masonic founded and controlled cults of the Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons have also adored the Great Pyramid.
First of all I will interpret the Latin words on the seal. 'Annuit Coeptis' means 'Announcing The Birth Of' and 'Novus Ordo Seclorum' means 'New World Order'. So therefore it says 'Announcing the birth of the New World Order'. The date in roman numerals is 1776, the year the modern Illuminati was formed and also the year of American independence. The Latin 'E Pluribus Unum' means 'One out of many' which is the foundation of the New World Order's plan to unify the world's governments, religions and money systems into one so the world can be controlled.
The capstone has not come down on the Pyramid. This means that the plan is not complete. Only when the New World Order is established upon all nations and the world leader is enthroned the plan will be complete. On the obverse is an eagle whose dexter wing has thirty- two feathers, the number of ordinary degrees in Scottish Rite Freemasonry. The sinister wing has thirty-three feathers, the additional feather corresponding to the Thirty-Third Degree of the Scottish Rite conferred for outstanding Masonic service. The tail feathers number nine, the number of degrees in the Chapter, Council, and Commandery of the York Rite of Freemasonry. Notice the stars above the eagle's head forms a hexagram the most evil of all witchcraft symbols.
Let us now go to Manly Palmer Hall, member of the Illuminati and 33rd Degree Freemason, called "the 20th century's greatest Masonic scholar and philosopher" by the Supreme Council of the 33rd Degree of Freemasonry's official monthly publication, the Scottish Rite Journal in the obituary section of August 1990
.....Just saying.... Ahhhh, again with the Illuminati. I, of course, do not mean disrespect to you at all, but allow me to point out where you are wrong. The phrase Novus ordo seclorum (Latin for "New Order of the Ages") appears on the reverse of the Great Seal of the United States, first designed in 1782 and printed on the back of the United States one-dollar bill since 1935. The phrase also appears on the coat of arms of the Yale School of Management, Yale University's business school. The phrase is often mistranslated as "New World Order". You are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginAnnuit cœptis is one of two mottos on the reverse side of the Great Seal of the United States. (The second motto is Novus ordo seclorum, and a third, E pluribus unum, appears on the image of the Great Seal on the dollar bill.) Taken from the Latin words annuo (third-person singular present or perfect annuit), "to nod" or "to approve", and coeptum (plural coepta), "commencement, undertaking", it is literally translated, "He approves (has approved) of the undertakings". You are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginAnd here is a link for E. pluribus unum: You are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginWhere have you collected your information on the Illuminati and Freemasons? Because I feel that you have been wrongly led into believing that they are some kind of evil masterminds manipulating and controlling the masses. I personally believe that the Illuminati are being framed for the evil of this world and that the people who are truly creating the evil of this world are not of the original teachings and foundations of the Illuminati or the Freemasons. Anywho, back to the topic on hand, no I do not think that it is Michael. It looks nothing like him. Again blessings and love to all!
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