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Ok...I've already watched a lot of you tube videos about the NWO since the beginning of this hoax, but I wanted to find a good book full of precise informations about who they are, the history of their "community" and all that.
I defenitely know that this is not our imagination and that there is really this thing going on (world conspiracy), but I still think that there are a lot of contradictions and a lot of things which dont make sense to me when i think of them and their evil plans. It's a heavy subject....

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Hoax Videos / Re: Michael and videos of Lady Gaga and more
« on: July 03, 2011, 02:48:47 PM »
Yes, I felt exactly the same way and when I saw the very last image of the video, with all these clear evil symbols and the Illuminati's sign, I've had shivers all over. If there is one person in the whole music industry who represents the evil one, then Gaga is the one. She spreads their message even better than Rihanna. So Michael can't be on one hand, fighting "them", and on the other hand, wanting to collaborate with poeple like her...

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Hoax Videos / Re: Michael and videos of Lady Gaga and more
« on: July 03, 2011, 06:13:21 AM »
You guys have to explain something... There seems to be a war between the Illuminati's and Michael, but according to some of you, Michael is supposed to "work together" or team up with artists such as Lady Gaga, who are CLEARLY Illuminati's (please check Gaga's latest video...the end of it clearly shows where she belongs)?? I don't understand, it doesn't make sense.
Also, Michael doesn't have the copyright for the word "believe" or "circus", we can't proceed like this to proove that there is a death hoax, and decide that wherever we will see one of our keywords (those who symbolizes the hoax for us) it will be a proof that Michael faked his death. I really don't see how the fact that Aguilera is using the Circus-world for her video is telling us that michael is alive?!!!! I mean if we proceed like that, then it's clear, we can find clues absolutely everywhere!

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Hello,

Im on the way to educate myself about the Illuminati's and the secrets behind what we see nowadays, however, i have noticed that there were not so many books on it, and I would like you to get some advices...Do you know some good books or authors on this subject?
Thanx:)

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Oprah Winfrey / Re: Who could it the finale guest be???
« on: May 26, 2011, 05:14:13 AM »
So the big surprise is Oprah herself???? What a huge ego she must have to do something like that! It is simply astonishing!!!
About what you guys say about BAMS day, that he will pick a time where everybody will be able to watch...I don't totally agree. I am from Europe, and when the media announced his death it was really late over here and most of the poeple have known he had died only in the news the next morning....

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Hoax Videos / Re: Michael.........The Fountain Of Youth ?!?!
« on: May 25, 2011, 05:01:02 AM »
It was discussed for 12 pages on this forum. I think you missed it. Here: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login And here: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

Do I believe this web-page is related with Michael. NO.[/quote]

Yep, I totally missed that  :roll: Thanx for the links!

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Hoax Videos / Re: Michael.........The Fountain Of Youth ?!?!
« on: May 24, 2011, 05:15:21 AM »
This video is about what appeared yesterday on a hoax website after the countdown going on for almost two years was over...Do you think we should take these clues seriously (foutain of youth, saundlers etc.)? Nobody seems to have paid attention to this countdown on this forum (no threads about it), I must say I don't take it very seriously either. I still just wanted to know what you knew about this website and why you don't believe/believe it could be nonsense....Thx.
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and maybe also the fact that the medias have totally RUINED Lindsay. Maybe the facts they reported about her were true, but true or not, the medias have ruined her life and nobody offers her moovie roles anymore, she is left apart. I ve read few days ago that Jennifer Aniston were writing a new script and was thinking of Lindsay for the main role because she thinks that she deserves a second chance. Why wouldn't MJ think the same? It would perfectly fit in the theme of his "moovie" if thats the reason fr him to fake his death. I also had a weird feeling as I saw Lindsay going to court with this "basic instict" dress, all the medias reported that she did not look like going to court but more like going to a Grammy or something. It keeps me wondering...

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Souza, what makes you think Lilo's court is fake?Would that mean for you that she is related to the hoax?

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I was hoping to read in your answers that i had missed something out, but if you can't explain as well why Murray's judge is a real judge who is not retired then it really sounds very bad for our theories :cry:
Nefari, I was also thinking that the judge might have been acting for the need of Mj's project (and be employed as an actor for the hoax), but it sounds a bit "too much" to be real, doesnt it? Also, if the judge was employed as an actor in the Murray's case, then why does he still have this big yellow toy/ sunflower or whatever it is behind him during Lindsay's court? So confusing....

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Hello...
I almost fainted today as I was watching "E! Entertainment" and noticed that Lindsay Lohan had the same judge than...Conrad Murray.

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[youtube:3cqcp2f6]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_pwMqbMBT4[/youtube:3cqcp2f6]

We have had long talks  months ago trying to find out who could be this judge, and many of you had found proofs that this judge was retired. Now that I see he isn't, I am VERY VERY confused. I was convinced that the Murray court case was fake, and given to the medias as being "live" but actually pre-reccorded. If this judge is real...this is a catastrophy for all our theories about a fake court, and so, about a hoax. I thought it was only a game between Michael and the medias, not involving any real authorities. But now...I dont know if you know what I mean but I am so confused that I cannot find the right words, sorry  :( If the judge is real, then this court is real, and if thats the way it is....it sounds really bad....
By the way, the judge has the same yellow thing behind him during Lindsay's court, I dont remember wether it was a sunflower or a toy, but I am just thinking of some recent hoax videos showing a Murray court case full of toys and teddybears everywhere...well...im just confused, please share your thoughts, I feel lost.

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I just talked to my friend and she is 30000000000% POSITIVE about the fact that Michael LIVED at Carolwood and did not want anybody to know because of the press. Thats what Michael told her. Apparently, some paparazzi who were "close" to Michael knew that too like Ben, that guy who is supposed to have taken the ambulance pic (try to ask him the question if you can contact him he will confirm you what I am saying). But he loved Michael and wanted to stay loyal and thats probably the reason why he also did not tell anybody, and why he never made any pictures of Mj there. As somebody wrote, Michael was probably staying there during the trials because it was a place safe to be and also because it was closer to court. I also think it makes sense, when you are sick and "weak" because of all the things going on, to stay in a closer place and make sure you won't spend half of each day on the road.
I dont know about what the law allows and not allow, but I'm dying to know the truth just like all of you, I've been posting on this forum for almost a year, and I would never ever post any informations I am not 100000% sure about. Or if im not sure, I would just say so. But he lived there, which doesnt mean that this house was not used as well to prepare the hoax....

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WhatYourHeartSays, I am a believer and not a faker, I promise!!!!! I'm trying to find out  the truth, just like you, and I would never ever make any fake statements here!! I am sure my friends and I were not the only one to know Michael was living there... The friend who met him there believes that Michael died, still Im gonna ask her if she can maybe post something here and give more details/proofs, maybe she also knows other poeple who took pictures with him in front of the gates, I dont know!! I think your theory coud have been a good point to proove everything was fake/staged, but don't you think MJ could also have rented this house secretly to prepare his hoax without anybody to know? I totally agree with you, it's very strange that only a few poeple knew about it :?

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I still can assure you that he was living at Carlwood way before 2008. When he was leaving the trials, two vans were actually leaving: everybody thought Michael was in the first and this van was going...where he was supposed to live back then (dont remember wether it was Neverland or not), and a second van was leaving afterwards with the real him inside. I know that it happened that way at least few times. My friends and I were close to some members of the family back then and thats how we knew he was hiding there. My friend had been waiting for him in fornt of the gates because she knew he would leave court and come directly home. The first thing that Michael did when he opened the window was to make her promise that she wouldnt tell anyone he was staying there. More because of the paparazzis than because of the fans, I guess. Again, he was extremely weak and needed to protect himself to survive Im sure ( so no offend to his fans). I dont know what has been said in the medias but whatever was said, believe me or not, he didnt first move at Carlwood in 2008, no way. Anyway, I was just trying to help and share what I know....Take care

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Michael's Impersonators / Re: OMG!!!! Look At This Picture I Found
« on: December 19, 2010, 06:32:24 AM »
I'd say impersonator too....

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