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« on: February 01, 2010, 05:19:41 PM »
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« on: February 01, 2010, 05:11:23 PM »
I think you got me wrong guys!
I didn't want to protect Conrad Murray's feelings in any way!!!
I know that you didn't want to protec his feelings..Sorry if it seemed like that.
But in the event if he is prosecuted and taken to jail we still shouldn't hate him if it turns out that he indeed murdered michael. That would make us hypocrites if we spread michaels words of endless love but have hatred for the man who killed him. Yes, it would be tragic, but you have to be willing to forgive as hard as it may seem. Bad man or not, he's still an individual that deserves the outmost respect as anyone these days! Think of everyone. think of the peace.
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« on: February 01, 2010, 04:47:11 PM »
I hear " What about death again" I heard the same thing. Sometimes your mind tells you something different than what your brain is actually hearing.
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« on: February 01, 2010, 04:16:18 PM »
I mentioned that if we could compare studio version of this song with the one at the tribute, we'd find an answer, and we did. It would have been too risky, just not something Michael would likely do if he were trying to keep a low profile.
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« on: February 01, 2010, 03:46:52 PM »
It has been misconstrued on so many levels as to why I am here. I will first state that I am non-believer as you call it I believe Michael Jackson is no longer with us may he RIP.
But I am here cause I am a firm believer that there are 3 sides to ever story, my side, your site, and the truth. My side is he is no longer with us, your side is he is, and somewhere in there is the truth. Which is what I understand you guys and ladies to be looking for. This is an investigation site, in order for the investigation to be a good and one there needs to be two sides of an argument if there is only one side then its not truly an investigation.
So i am here to point out other sides to things so they can be looked at and counter it so an good ingistigation can take place.
I am not here to offend people, I am not here to insult, make fun of, or belittle anyone, I may come across sarcastic at times like with the present tense argument cause that really does mean nothing, Me and my who family still refer to my Grandma (dad's mom) in present tense even though she passed away in 2008, I still find myself picking up the phone to call her.
So that is why I am here. I do not want to offend people just trying to put the light on the other side of the argument. Next off, if referring to people in present tense that have passed away means they are alive, I need to start a site to try to find my Grandma, cause I still refer to her in present tense even know she has been gone since 2005, and my other friend I need to find him, cause I still refer to him in present tense. you said she passed away in 2005...
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« on: February 01, 2010, 02:15:00 PM »
That must be a REALLY NICE disguise. 
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« on: February 01, 2010, 02:13:04 PM »
Did you notice when Frank finished his speech to thank people for loving MJ the way I DO shouldnt that have been "did"?
Present tense again!
:roll:
Shame we didnt get to see the film instead of those two "twits" :?
As to the Present Tense again statement, Where the hell is my grandma I still refer to her in present tense and she passed away in 2004, or did she, maybe she hoaxed her death?
hm one question:
Are you here to investigate or find the truth or just to throw out some senseless words?
I don't want to offend you, but I've read a few of your posts and I think that you do not take this very serious....If I'm wrong, then I'm really sorry!
Just an attention seeker. ignore his posts and he will go away. try not to feed the senseless babel. I don't know if I can respect somebody who lacks common sense and/or the decency to able to properly construct a sentence, therfore, hes most likely just some 12 year old looking to find laughter.
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« on: February 01, 2010, 01:15:21 PM »
I think I read your introductrary post and if I remember right I think you had many interesting things to say. Many people on this forum seem convinced that Michael is indeed alive and they're happy with just keeping their faith and I see nothing wrong in that. However, I'm not one of them I'm not convinced Michael is alive but neither am I convinced that he's dead. I agree that we need to keep speculating and persoally I think it's a good thing to bring up old "clues" while searching for the truth.
Therefore I welcome any new theory. Your theory could be a possibility. I don't know if I understood the reason for the hoax though, so correct me if I misinterpreted it, do you mean that he'd hoax his death in order to raise money to cure his disease (if he has one)? And what do kind of support would he need if people already think he's dead? He has enough money to find the best treatments without money from fans and other people. Have I completely misunderstood? If so, could you explain? Yes. That part is correct. My theory is that Michael would fake his death in order to raise money and gain support of people for his illness. When he was alive, he was often ridiculed and hounded for much of his life, and many people thought that he was a child molester, which I totally don't agree with. My reasoning is simple, why help someone who many believed was a crazy and bad man who would do those things to people? Think about it, would anybody offer him support then? Michael had many friends who were fake to him, and I wouldn't necessarily say that they would stick with him through the illness. They quite possibly could have manipulated him and tried to make the campaign back fire on himself. and Obviously, yes, he does have enough money, but how would the public feel if they decided to support a questionable man and save his life if others perceive him to ruin childrens lives? I've heard he was bankrupt, which, could be true, but those are ludicrous claims because Michael made more money than the average celebrity. People already think he's dead, yes, but since the his death, sales have sky rocketed, and EVEN in death, he is gaining more fans and support. Isn't that true? I hope I clarified things for you! Welcome
I can only suggest that you have to search for your own truth, we cannot prove you wrong, you have to do the research as we have done for the last 7 months to look for the truth. Start at the beginning 25 June 09 and work forward, there are 100s of videos etc on ytube to help you do your research and hours of research already done on this forum.
Happy Investigating.
L.O.V.E.
:roll: 
Or better: Start with the O2 Press Conference. I think this is the beginning of this all. His behaviour, his words etc.
[/b] I've looked over that clip numerous amounts of times and that was ultimately what drew me to this forum. I do agree that his mannerisms were quite ambiguous and unusual, seeing as michael was always modest and direct, in the clip shown he sounded very cocky and demanded respect from the crowd. In fact, the first time I viewed the video, I wondered if it was actually michael himself speaking. I thought it was a double. I also thought that The video wasn't live at all and that it was green screened. have a look again: You are not allowed to view links.
Register or Logindo you think it was green screened. just look at the red curtains. it seems surreal and out of place in contrast to the guy introducing michael. BTW: I don't know if this is a coincidence, but he did say "WAS THAT WEIRD TOYOU?? " to the audience right after Michael Left the stage. and here we are questioning the authenticity of Michael Jackson, yet he says those words. is that weird? don't know if somebody notice that yet. He says hes only doing 10 shows but I could have sworn even at that time that they had agreed to 50? 5:52 is when he says this but I have an honest question if you will. Did you ever get the sense (before the "death") that michael was going to fake his death someday, when he was alive? That question sprouted just now and I always thought to myself that he would.
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« on: February 01, 2010, 12:35:16 PM »
Could it be that the kids were just nervous?
I would like to think so. In the past few months the children have been the focus and received much publicity since MJ's death. There obviously not prepared to give speeches, and you have to keep in mind that there young. I still get nervous giving presentations even though i've been through many of them. just a natural feeling I get.
I agree.
I think they were really nervous! but still giving clues... no "miss you daddy"
Did you notice Prince´s slip up.... "we would also like to thank your fa... THE fans bla bla" I think he´s been rehersing this with his father... :lol:
Or trying to keep from crying.
They weren't close to crying. it was clear to me that they were straight up nervous. It's been a few months already.
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« on: February 01, 2010, 12:04:39 PM »
I watched the MJ Tribute, "Earth Song" on the Grammys tonight. I was very disappointed by the singers. I did not like how they were featured singing along with MJ. I just wanted the tribute to be about our beloved MJ. MJ's voice seemed so crystal-clear to me. I thought he was behind the screen. I thought he was going to come out on stage. It was very hard to me to watch the tribute. It just hurts too much for me!  I just miss him too much! I just want MJ back. That is all I want! I agree to you to some degree. They could have at least Had Ringo and Paul out there as michael has stated numerous times that he is a big fan of the beatles, and those two can flat out sing. I don't know if they'd accept, but they could have at least tried. The grammys aren't the same as they used to be. All these horrible singers...(with respect of course) just can't keep up with everyone from the glory days. Smokey Robinson, I like, everyone else...mehh.
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« on: February 01, 2010, 11:41:28 AM »
Well, no one is immortal. One day, sick or not, he will die. That's all they had to imagine to produce those tears; he doesn't necessarily have to be terminally ill to induce such sadness - age is sickness enough.
I understand you asked as a newcomer, but asking the forum users to "prove you wrong" is a waste of time; you'll only change your mind through self-realization. So, read through everything provided in this forum and all the videos put together on youtube. The speculative evidence you're looking for is already there, just take the time to ingest it and synthesize the information for yourself. It would be a waste of everyone's time to reiterate everything they've already said, wouldn't it? Possibly, but as a community such as this which strives to act as one big family as I've noticed, it would be nice to review every once in a while to see what we have to work with and so that many of us don't feel like we're missing something. we can't just say one thing and leave it in the past, isn't it important to bring it up again every once in a while? It isn't necessarily a bad thing, and sometimes, individuals have to look at "speculative" evidence proposed to them in the past in order to reach our final decision, but I appreciate the comments. It'd be kind of careless to misinform someone and just say "read this link" because I feel it's as if its inconsiderate and you don't want to deal with the issue.
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« on: February 01, 2010, 11:25:33 AM »
Welcome
I can only suggest that you have to search for your own truth, we cannot prove you wrong, you have to do the research as we have done for the last 7 months to look for the truth. Start at the beginning 25 June 09 and work forward, there are 100s of videos etc on ytube to help you do your research and hours of research already done on this forum.
Happy Investigating.
L.O.V.E.
:roll: ummm..right. I'm just looking for any insight. What people think of this idea. I don't know if you read the post, but I wasn't asking do you think you should prove me wrong, I wanted to know what people thought of the theory presented. That was just what I MENTIONED I said in my very first post, that I love what you guys are doing and that you should continue to prove me wrong. Oh and by the way, I dont think some of you are aware that I have been here for a few days now...I've been posting reguarly for a while now. Its nice to see a "welcome" for every post I make, but I think I get the picture now!  thank you though!
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« on: February 01, 2010, 10:46:23 AM »
Could it be possible that the thoughts and emotions exhibited by the family members and such are due to the fact that Michael was genuinely sick but not ultimately dead? After thinking about that possibility, your posts, and other thoughts that have circulated inside my mind, I felt the need to question whether or not this could have happened in the event that Michael was unable to perform at a high level in wake of the 50 concerts he was set out to perform in London. I now feel, that, if Michael Is still alive, (as I said in my introductory post as a newcomer that I don't believe he is alive but I want you guys to prove me wrong) that possibly the reason why they are talking in present tense is because he will pass away? I'd hate for the fans to see this come to that, but maybe michael was diagnosed with a sickness that is incurable and the reason why he hoaxed his death (if he indeed did) was to promote enough money and gain more support of the public so that they can fight in his efforts to cure this disease of his. Not to offend everyone, but michael had been living a very unconventional lifestyle, having gone through vitligio and lupus for much of his adult life. You'd think that something was physically going on with him, and lets face it, this lifestyle of his wasn't going to let him live any longer. So to summarize it, I think it's very plausible that the Jackson family are legitimately sad, but not for the reasons that most people think, his death. It could because if he doesn't get cures, he could die later. So, It's REAL emotions (which also explains why they talk in present tense because he's obviously with them, just very ill) a profound sadness, but they don't believe he's dead.
What do you think of this?
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« on: February 01, 2010, 09:57:19 AM »
Yeah. a little strange. He was in The Golden Globe R.I.P. List, however, that awards show is specifically for movies. (as I recall, at least) Grammys focus solely on Music. Is there anyway to prove that this happened? I haven't seen this, so I'm wondering where I can watch that memorial listings of those who passed.
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« on: January 31, 2010, 10:49:37 PM »
exactly, he could be there in disguise. he could be singing from some room with a microphone. hmm...so say this were true. How would security not notice someone locked away in some room as they walked by it with someone singing? wouldn't that be a little [too/i] suspicious? Surely, they would have caught him. I mean theres a voice coming from a random room...
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