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This is It ~ DVD & Blu Ray / Re: MJ Air
« on: January 05, 2011, 10:04:32 AM »
Well i didnt see This before. If its just "released" i Think itcould be a big clue: gonna make a change today. Gets in the mj airplane and flyes Away. Wonder if This is from the last rehearsal ..... hmmmm.. Thinking a little about the jermaine slip up: airport - hospital.

Does anyone know what date This was recorder ?

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Justin Beiber dead at 16
« on: June 12, 2010, 12:37:54 AM »
well I just googled "justin beiber dead" and the result was, that it seems that he dies like one time every year.

I hope he is fine and alive.

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Prince Debuts New Track “Hot Summer”
« on: June 07, 2010, 11:52:03 PM »
I like this song - Yes and the lyrics is kind of interesting. Well anyway - I am going to see prince july 4 on Roskilde festival in Denmark  :D

would be nice if MJ made a guest performance - wouldnt that be something ?  :D

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Michael Jackson News / Re: "PRINCE" The Singer....I never knew!!
« on: May 30, 2010, 02:16:00 AM »
Quote from: "alovesmichael"
Off topic but I'm just curious... Anyone going to see Prince this summer?  :D I wanna go real bad!


YES Roskilde festival, Denmark :-)

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Michael Jackson News / Re: "PRINCE" The Singer....I never knew!!
« on: May 24, 2010, 07:59:36 AM »
Quote from: "moonwalkontoes"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "moonwalkontoes"
We chose to line his pockets since the late 70s and give him the money to own his purple mansion and live the high life and that's what we get back.

Did Prince tell you or force you to "line his pockets"?  No, it was your choice to buy his albums, like you said.  Just because you buy someone's products doesn't mean you can claim something in return, come on!

What do you expect your local butcher to do for you in return just because you buy your meat there, does the owner of factory that designed and made your car needs to do something in return because you bought that car?  No, of course not, that's absolutely ridiculous you'll most likely say, yet you do expect an artist to do certain things that would please you just because you bought his product.

What you're saying is utterly unreasonable.

Way to avoid all my questions about what if those sorts of rules came down on THIS forum.   :lol:

If Prince didn't want the public as a constant part of his life and career, he should've done pub shows or become a producer.  

It's like Mike releasing Thriller then banning TV stations from playing his videos.

Prince doesn't even have to do much, just LET fans have access to his released music instead of making them pay over $70 just to join his website to hear songs then lose that money when the site goes defunct a few months later (his 2nd or 3rd site to fail), barely releasing his CDs (WHY MAKE THEM?) and then doing zero promotion.

He released a perfume for a while and is now being sued by the company because he abandoned the project and didn't pay them.

Like I said, why does he bother?  Most would rather he went away rather than sprinkling an occasional crumb then kicking us as we try to pick the crumb up.


Well - I dont think that U accept the spirit of Princes art - maybe I dont too - but just take it or leave it - there is no pressure...

I just think that he made some very important messages about the industry (iluminati) and the world...(even thou Im not very religious (but very spirituel)...

Besides that: he made a big part of the soundtrack to my life: When doves cry, the beautiful ones, purple rain, reflection, sometimes it snow in april, how come u dont call me, kiss, 1999, colonized mind, feel happy, fell great, fell wonderful, old school company, return to the bumpsquad etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. I could go on and on and on..

Peace...

Prince:

Love is god - god is love (makes a lot of sense to me)

MJ:

Its all about L.O.V.E. ( same message)

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Michael Jackson News / Re: "PRINCE" The Singer....I never knew!!
« on: May 21, 2010, 10:49:25 AM »
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "themjkiss"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "themjkiss"
Prince's problem is he does not appreciate his fans, ever seen how he snubs them in public? it is unbelievable how he is towards them.

I don't mean to be rude or disrespectful, but just post a message on the Prince forum about Prince's message, and see how his fans respond to you, IF they even GET the CHANCE to respond, because the mods over there are very quick with deleting or locking threads when it comes to spreading Prince's messages.  I don't think that the majority of Prince's fans understand what he's talking and singing about at all, which leads them to ridicule and bash those who do understand.

Mo: I had been a admirer of Prince ever since I had seen the movie Purple Rain, that was many years ago for me..and had been a member of the Prince.org website for years as well, so I know exactly what your are talking about with how the mods there operate, I have experienced it. As far as his message, well perhaps some people do not get it. I do admire Prince for his awareness of social suppressions in it's many forms, and trying to make difference with his music about this very subject. However when it comes to social relations, he has never been to kind to the people who support him his fans or rather fams. That was my point, his response towards his fams, this has been a complaint with many Prince fams for years, I am not the only one to notice. You can disagree if you want, it is your right, but this is true.

Quote from: "themjkiss"
Mo: To continue what I was saying, sorry for some reason I was not able to post anymore text in my last response not sure why. I would have liked to see Prince change, become more social with his fams, but it did not happen, he just became for reclusive. I have seen many videos of him arriving at different types of events through the years, you never really see him interact that much with the fams. Then this whole internet thing went down, where he starting suing alot of people. Well I have more than made my point,  I just wanted to vent..

themjkiss, thanks for explaining, I appreciate it.  Let me vent my thoughts as well please...

Why would Prince (or any other artist) have to socialize with fans..?  Creating music and performing is a profession, it's his work.  If people admire his work they can buy his records and play them.  They can attend gigs and watch him perform.  In my opinion, that is where it should end.  

When you finish your job you also want to go home and relax, spend time with your family and do the things you like to do in your time off.  Why can't an artist do that?  Why do fans expect an artist to socialize with them?  They don't owe that to their fans, fans just think they owe them that.

In my opinion, fans expect too much and claim too much from artists.  Whatever the artist does, it will never be good enough, there will always be complaints.  Put yourself in an artist's position - how would you feel if your "customers" think they have the right to claim you after your job is finished..?

MO : I totally agree with U... I have been loving prince and his art for 27 years now - Prince is NOT about fans and all that. He is an artist who creates freely - and that cool. He dont sign autograhp and stuff, since he dont feel that this is important. He even feels that it puts him on a piedestall. where he dont think he belongs... He dont like the whole "fan" thing - I totally understand that.

I am part of the Prince.org website too - and they are totally negative over there -- I got a warning for mention the death hoax of MJ and the connection to Prince/Dick Gregory... Well dont that says alot.

Prince is a pure spirit, intelligent human being and a free artist and a wonderfull musician..

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Michael Jackson News / Re: "PRINCE" The Singer....I never knew!!
« on: May 21, 2010, 01:54:48 AM »
Quote from: "moonwalkontoes"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "moonwalkontoes"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "moonwalkontoes"
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And for all I know he´s also a pioneer in revolutionary music marketing concepts on the internet.

Not really.  His career has bombed since he began suing everyone who uses his music on the internet.  He even went so far as to write a dis track against his fans for refusing to shut down their websites with pictures of him posted on them.

He used to be unstoppable as an artist but now he's pretty much irrelevant.  He hasn't released a solid record since the mid 90s.

Please, get your facts straight before making statements.


Prince albums released since the mid 90s:

  • The Gold Experience (1995)
  • Chaos and Disorder (1996)
  • Emancipation (1996)
  • Crystal Ball (1998)
  • Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic (1999)
  • The Rainbow Children (2001)
  • One Nite Alone... (2002)
  • Xpectation (2003)
  • N.E.W.S (2003)
  • Musicology (2004)
  • The Chocolate Invasion (2004)
  • The Slaughterhouse (2004)
  • 3121 (2006)
  • Planet Earth (2007)
  • LOtUSFLOW3R (2009)
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:roll: I said a SOLID album, meaning a good quality one.  

The Gold Experience was the last one to get all around critical and public acclaim.  That was also the last album to give him a #1 hit around the world.

Musicology got some attention because of his performance @ the Grammys with Beyonce.  3121 was mildly popular because he was still okay with promoting his work.

The rest only hardcore fans would know and only a few of these albums were widely released.

So, a solid album, a good quality one, to you is an album from which #1 hits come, and receives good critiques..?  Then my taste of music must be really bad, because some of my favorite albums are not even known by a wide audience or only produced moderate hits.  Strangely enough, these very same albums are known and highly appreciated by musicians.  Makes you go mmmmmmmmm...

Hits nowadays are mainly based on airplay and downloads instead of record sales.  Critiques can make of break albums.

His fans hate most of those albums, trust me, I'm a hardcore fan, I know some of his fans in real life.  Every one of them knows he is SO not what he used to be because of his stance against the music industry.  You'd be flat out trying to find a hardcore fan who really likes anything he did between 96 and 2004.  He recently released two songs and his biggest fansite HATED them both.  We really only stick around because of his former glory.

My guess is he got into the industry when he was too young (19) and once he grew up and began to think for himself, he found it wasn't the place for him, only by then the world was in love with him.

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I totally disagree: listen to musicology (best selling tour in US in 2004) listen to 3121, planet Earth and his latest double album; lotusflow3 and Minneapolis, very versataile and good things on there - last but not least; GO SEE HIM LIVE ... he is an amazing artist...

Yeah, I acknowledged Musicology and 3121.  Planet Earth's hype didn't last very long.

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I'd go and see him live but he's too busy studying the Bible to tour this country  :lol:

LOL: I will see him tho - at Roskilde festival (Denmark) on july 4  :D

I only enjoyed a few tracks on Lotusflow3r/MPLS but fans did take that as a slight improvement on PE and 3121.

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I have deep respect for Prince, and have had this since 1982. Im sure he and MJ were good partners/friends - dont believe everything u read in the news....

Totally agree, their whole rivalry was completely made up.

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Michael Jackson News / Re: "PRINCE" The Singer....I never knew!!
« on: May 20, 2010, 09:57:33 AM »
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "Disco"
I do feel that what Prince is saying about religon & censorship in America is very relevent to what is going on in the world today...... ;)

You hit the nail on the head.  Here we go again:


Prince's One Song speech

Prologue:
1999... and the illusion continues. One begs 2 ask -
"when will it end?"

Unnatural disasters happen seemingly every week. Train crashes, shootings, nuclear accidents; is there any place of refuge one can flee from this insanity? Very few of mankind's creations r designed 2 make u feel good, unless u get pleasure from seeing the human body desecrated by guns, explosions, fights, and any other things these so-called "artists" create. In the name of freedom, many have used art as a means 2 destroy the human mind. As an excuse 2 continue we hear "Art reflects society". How many times has this lie been repeated: "creations r not real", they say and yet any one of these people can call 2 mind images and complete scenes of horror in graphic detail. They will carry these so-called "unreal" creations around with them 4 the rest of their lives. These images r now a part of their being. In the name of RECREATION these people in fact r re-creating themselves in their own images.
SOCIETY THEN REFLECTS ART.

In man's decision 2 further separate from God, his re-creation of himself leaves him in a dysfunctional state of confusion. The mind becomes a burial ground 4 dead waste. Isolated from the wholeness of God, Earth and his fellow brothers and sisters, this man seeks solace in activities he thinks will stimulate his mind. He begins downloading in2 his brain a series of manmade creations designed 2 destroy it. All manmade creations originate from one of 2 sources: the Tree of Knowledge or the Tree of Life. One of these trees contained deadly fruit, the other - Fruit of Everlasting Life. The one who disregards this fact recreates himself and his kind in2 extinction.

U r reading these words on a machine created by man. As u read, u hear a voice speaking 2 u the words that u perceive. They make sense 2 u because u understand (stand under) the SPELLing. The words r what binds this SPELL 2 ur illusion. When u hear the truth, like a memory - u recognize it and this recognition releases u from ALL illusion. Many languages r brilliant in their attempt 2 CONfuse u. CON meaning: against, fuse meaning: 2gether. Words and their SPELLbinding illusions have the power 2 keep man separate from God. U were born in an all-knowing state of mind. The first words spoken 2 u begin the SPELL. The words come from one of 2 sources: the Tree of Knowledge or the Tree of Life. In ignorance or simply lack of respect 4 God, many use words that CONfuse the minds of humans and turn them in2 projections of their own illusions. Because of this fact, many people grow up and blindly assume their pre-selected role under a dictatorship without even being aware of it. When asked what they r doing here on earth, most will answer with statements that do not reflect their natural God-given desires. This creates a pyramid-like structure with the dictator on top, and each level under it knowing less and less. Upon reaching the bottom level - which is where the majority is, u will find chaos, disorder, and illusion. With ILL as its prefix, ILLusion is a state of insanity. In the name of democracy, supreme power is vested un2 the people in this insane state instead of God. A future re-created, 2 b ruled by man, is one of isolation and despair. Returning the leadership back in2 God will allow mankind 2 achieve its original collective goal which is union with God. Ideas contrary 2 this goal should not b blamed or persecuted - just simply ignored. They originated when man first chose 2 ignore God's rule. Simply put - in the beginning, the Human was made perfect in God's image. They had no need 4 knowledge. They were also given freedom of choice. The Tree of Knowledge and the Tree of Life r reflections of this freedom. The human is now a reflection of their choice. They could have simply chose not 2 choose. God being centrifugal in nature, freedom was the CAUSE and choice was the EFFECT. In knowing their perfection made in God's image, there was no need 2 choose. In fact, there were NO NEEDS. There was only love in an all-knowing state b4 the fall. The worst thing u can do is give up ur God-given right 2 choose. 4 in it - u can choose not 2 choose. Therein is the final judgement. The illusion ceases and u awaken from ur dream. Now the healing begins...

With an all-knowing mind, made in God's image u can create as ur Creator - God intended. With love, honor and respect 4 every living thing in the universe. Separation ceases, and we all become One Being singing the One song.

© 2000 NPG


One Song
I am the universe
The sun, the moon and sea
I am the energy
4 that is what I breathe
I can be contradiction
Cuz that is all I see
But I am the universe
And the universe is me

I am the one song (Ah yes)
And that one song is free
All things come from this one song (Yes they do, uh)
The garden and the tree
If everything, everything is present
What is will always be
This here is the first and the last song
And all that come between

When language falls like a wounded soldier
And it's covered by the sea
All the sadness
All these unanswered questions
Keep me company
(Company, company, company come 2 me, come 2 me please!)
Here at the center of it all
(I know)
I know that U can only come from me

(I am the universe)
Yes it will, oh, yes it will
(The sun, the moon and sea)
Where else is it gonna come from but me?
(I am the universe)
Oh my, my my my my my my my universe
(The universe is me)
(I am the universe)
(The sun, the moon and sea)
(I am the universe)
(We are the universe) {x2}
(The universe is me)
One truth (One truth)
One song (One song)
One energy


thank u mo... spot on :-)

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Michael Jackson News / Re: "PRINCE" The Singer....I never knew!!
« on: May 20, 2010, 08:24:48 AM »
Quote from: "themjkiss"
I used to think Prince was pretty cool, until his he started to get upset about his videos and images of himself on the net. Then he started to get upset with the fans over it, he should be grateful the fans want to see him, but instead he got mad, started to get legal teams together to troll the internet, for the purpose of taking down his videos,music, images... Not sure how sucessful he was, because when it started I stopped bothering with him altogether. Prince's problem is he does not appreciate his fans, ever seen how he snubs them in public? it is unbelievable how he is towards them. But on the other hand I do think he had a point about all the Chem trails, I believe that this conspiracy is true...


So glad Michael respects and appreciates his fans, he makes me feel good to know him.

Prince never liked the concept: fans... fans as in fanatic... he prefered the word fams as in family...

I think that he has a point; he never believed in making musicians/singers God like. As he says; there is only ONE GOD...

Love is God
God is Love.

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Michael Jackson News / Re: "PRINCE" The Singer....I never knew!!
« on: May 20, 2010, 08:21:07 AM »
Quote from: "moonwalkontoes"
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And for all I know he´s also a pioneer in revolutionary music marketing concepts on the internet.

Not really.  His career has bombed since he began suing everyone who uses his music on the internet.  He even went so far as to write a dis track against his fans for refusing to shut down their websites with pictures of him posted on them.

He used to be unstoppable as an artist but now he's pretty much irrelevant.  He hasn't released a solid record since the mid 90s.


I totally disagree: listen to musicology (best selling tour in US in 2004) listen to 3121, planet Earth and his latest double album; lotusflow3 and Minneapolis, very versataile and good things on there - last but not least; GO SEE HIM LIVE ... he is an amazing artist...

Its correct that he is very strict on content on the internet etc. and a lot of his fans hate that...

Anyway - Prince to what he think is right - I get his point..

Only thing is that I miss live dvds from Prince - but he dont believe in that concept - He feels that concert are "in the moment" kind of thing.

I have deep respect for Prince, and have had this since 1982. Im sure he and MJ were good partners/friends - dont believe everything u read in the news....

Dick Gregory is a very clear conncetion between Prince and MJ.

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Twitter ~ Not verified but (probably) real / Jackson5 tweets.
« on: May 17, 2010, 01:33:00 PM »
Isnt it kind of strange that the twitter for Jackson 5 didnt tweet since easter... ??? Maybe its kind of a clue... dont know...
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Introduce yourself / Re: Hi from Denmark
« on: May 15, 2010, 07:59:45 AM »
welcome - I am danish too - copenhagen.

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Introduce yourself / Re: Hi from Denmark
« on: May 15, 2010, 02:25:07 AM »
Hi - no I didnt mean it in a bad way when I wrote that I think it is best to write in english; its all about relations, connection and l.o.v.e

btw: look at this article from fyens stiftindende:
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Michael Jackson News / Re: Jackson Family Reaction to Leaked Vids
« on: May 14, 2010, 05:52:43 AM »
Quote from: "*Mo*"

This perfectly shows that if the Jacksons want something removed from the internet, they act.

Souza and I have stated a few times that it's our opinion that if Mike and or the Jacksons would not want this website and all it's info out there for everyone to see, they or the Estate would have contacted us about it.

For your information: Michael Jackson registered his name with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office.  Our URL is michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com, and the title is Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators.  That alone would have been enough reason to request to have this website removed from the internet, yet no such request was ever received by us.


Very good and interesting point.

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goggle translation:


I must save myself, I fear for my life '
HENNING Høeg (hawks) - Thursday, 13 May 2010, 15:19

- It's Michael. It is very important. I have to save me. So I need the 150 on my account. I fear for my life.

This was just one of those raving messages that Michael Jackson is already six years before his death last summer put on a good friend's answering machine,

There are of course talking about $ 150,000, as Michael Jackson elsewhere asking the anonymous telephone goods owner to insert at a European bank account.

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Also read: death threats against people behind Jackson's gay-leak

And fear is not just general paranoia.

Thus denominator popkongen his alleged tormentor by name.

Read also: Tubes of dangerous drugs found in Jackson

- He stalker me. And I believe he has ties to the Italian mafia. We will need to be smarter than him, "says the panic and Michael Jackson as a telephone message in 2003 is put at four thirty in the morning.

Secret source
It is the American journalist Daphne Barak, who has published tapes through the British newspaper The Sun.

When she was filming, Daphne Barak had just finished a book on the pill and drug addiction in the American celebrity environment.

Descended from 2003
And although the names of both friend and eventual enemy is removed, so guess who that owner of the mailbox either actor Chris Tucker or private doctor Arnold Klein. The recordings obtained as mentioned from 2003, when Michael Jackson was under sharp criticism after BBC journalist Martin Bashir documentary "Living With Michael Jackson ', which showed that popkongen sharing bed with young boys.

Michael Jackson's first wife Lisa Marie Presley has revealed that Jackson already fourteen years before his death, even predicted that he would end his days as his former father Elvis.

25th June 2009 Michael Jackson died of an overdose of the anesthetic drug propofol.

His private physician Conrad Murray, who gave the injection, is accused of 'negligent homicide'.

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