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Michael Jackson News / Re: When Michael Comes Back, How Do U Think He'll Do It?

« on: February 19, 2010, 03:49:11 AM »

Yes I also feel that he will be safe upon his return. He is extremely intelligent and he knows what he is doing. He would not do anything reckless.

I agree in that he is unpredictable as many have said. That's a good thing. It would not be as exciting if we were able to 'predict' what he was going to do. With Michael, it's simply not possible to know exactly what he plans on doing. He favors the element of surprise.

I just think that it is really fun and interesting to see what kinds of ideas all of you creative people have. ^^; I threw my ideas out there to just to start this off. But I like most, if not all, have no clue as to what he has up his sleeves. Lol

All I know is that it’s going to be VERY exciting!

This has been an incredible adventure thus far!

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Michael Jackson News / Re: When Michael Comes Back, How Do U Think He'll Do It?

« on: February 16, 2010, 02:27:36 AM »

WOW! Thanks for the replies guys! Plz keep them coming!

this1crazygirl: I agree with you completely. I think that this is all very much a God-thing if that makes any sense. There is no other reason I could give that would explain why Michael has touched my heart so deeply. This has really changed my life for the better. I have more faith and I have grown so much spiritually, it's nuts. It's really hard to explain...

tklein1014: Yes, I think that you are right. ^^;

SEHF: You got that right. After all, he is the King.

I love everyone’s ideas, input and opinions!

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Michael Jackson News / When Michael Comes Back, How Do U Think He'll Do It?

« on: February 15, 2010, 02:41:21 AM »

I’m not sure if this has been done so if it has, I’m really sorry! >_< I also apologize if this is in the wrong place.

Anyway….all of this talk about a comeback day are quite …shall I say elusive?

I mean Michael will come back when he wants to. He will do it in his own time.

I think believers should stop setting dates for the ever-impending “BAM” day because when those dates come and go without anything going down, they stop believing.

SO, I would like to start a new discussion with this one good question:

When Michael comes back for real (and I’m not talking about cryptic appearances either) how do you think he will do it?


To start this off, I would like to answer this question by telling you guys how I think he may come back. ^^; (this is all my opinion and I’m not trying to state these as facts)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I think:
 
He will release a new music video of either a new song OR he will remake the music video to a song that he has already released and he will be in it. If he does this, I think he will choose “They Don’t Care About Us.” I think this because that song has been a very special part of all this. (It was the only song that was released as rehearsal footage. It was being played over and over again all over the news.  AND it had a world premier on TV…They could have chosen any other song. Why this one?)  


I do not think:

That he will do a public appearance when he first comes back because this would be VERY dangerous for him.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I’m really interested in what you guys have to say! I hope this can prove to be an interesting discussion!

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Introduce yourself / Re: Hi there

« on: February 10, 2010, 02:29:40 AM »

Hello and welcome! *hugs*

I understand exactly what you mean.

As for me, i didn't even know that there were people who believed that Michael was still alive.

I had gone through every stage of grief imaginable but instead of it easing up, the grief just got stronger and heavier. I could not sleep at times. I would even loose my appetite.

I could not understand this because I was not a fan before June 25th. I still wonder about that sometimes.

I have been a believer since November 7th, 2009. And it's all thanks to a tribute show that I saw. Something in that tribute show got me thinking and it also compelled me to do my own research.

There are just too many things that point to a hoax in all of this. There are so many clues, too many to ignore if you ask me. lol

This is 'an adventure, a great adventure' and I'm so glad that you have joined us! ^_^

~alma~

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Random MJ Talk / Re: Whos Given UP??

« on: February 09, 2010, 03:36:01 AM »

The reports mean nothing to me. The media always lie. Michael has taught me well.

I will not give up until that glorious day.

But until then, I will continue to 'keep the faith.'

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Other Odd Things / Re: will the real conrad murray please stand up.....

« on: February 09, 2010, 03:30:51 AM »

Michael is a GENIUS, guys!!!  8-)  8-)  8-)  8-)

Yes he is a total genius!

I would also like to make another confirmation on the legitimacy of the footage. (even though others may have already done so) I watch the Spanish channel all the time and the Spanish news station covered this as well. That 'other' CM was there. I saw him and it was at a different angle. There were many other cameras catching this at different angles.

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Other Odd Things / Re: Even hoaxers truly believe the media

« on: February 09, 2010, 03:10:35 AM »

You make a fantastic point especially with that study you quoted and bec, your response to it is right on target too. I see both sides to it and I think both sides are right. Conformity to a degree is necessary for a society to function. However, conformity can lead to us being blinded by what's really in front of us due to our oblivion to our own truth about ourselves, hence a lot of us being discontent and untrue to ourselves.

Hey lookingfortruth,

Yeah that's exactly what I was trying to say. Like you said, 'Conformity can lead to us being blinded' regardless of whether we are genetically ingrained to do certain things or not. Yes maybe back in our Neanderthal days, this may have been necessary for survival...(and I say this with jest because I personally do not believe in evolution but I still love to engage in analytical discussions) but history has shown us time and again that it is less beneficial to be different in the eyes of society in general than it is to go with what most people are doing.

This, in essence, breeds corruption in almost every level of society. And I say this because what 'most' people are doing is not always the RIGHT thing to do. Just like when you see a homeless person begging. Most people just walk away for fear of being mugged or robbed. But from time to time, a Good Samaritan will come along and help this homeless person. The Samaritan goes against the norm to follow his/her heart and show love to a complete stranger that has the ability to harm him/her.

Desirable or not, conformity can make people do crazy things. Things that no one would do if they were in the right mind. And I say this with all the love in the world.

And yes, I do agree in that I like how the discussion is going.

But it’s important that everyone keep an open mind. Do not be so quick to make a decision on what you may or may not see. Always be true to yourself and do not let anyone make you say that the object is ‘blue’ when you know in your heart that it is ‘red.’

~alma~

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Other Odd Things / Re: Opus Winning Fan Tributes: A Message from MJ?

« on: February 09, 2010, 02:24:37 AM »

Thanks for the comments everyone!

Crazy Banana: Thank you! *hugs*

lookingfortruth: Yeah, I think that the rest of the art work was truly great! I enjoyed them and I still love them so much. ^_^ But there was some serious drama when the winners were announced on the flicker group discussion. >_>

Jacksonology: I agree with you totally. While I also think that I may have interpreted these incorrectly in some instances, I still believe that they are meant to give a message.

steffmaster1: Oh LOL...I was not meaning to imply that he would come back on Easter. Haha! I just wanted to give an example of what he might have tried to tell us. The rabbit is associated with Easter and Easter is associated with resurrection. In ‘This Is It’, there is a resurrection scene after Thriller. And then they play a tag from the last song on the Invincible album called 'Threatened.' The lyrics to that song seem to be another clue. >> ...'In one blink I'll disappear, and then I'll come back to haunt you'... What i said about the rabbit was meant to be read between the lines rather than laterally. The rabbit can also have a double meaning. Like what you said about following the rabbit because he has a secret. That's a good one too. I think that it's possible that he may come back on Valentines Day. But I would not be so quick to say what is too late or what is too soon. Only Michael knows when he will come back.
Oh, and thanks! I'm glad you like my painting! X3  

Again I would like to say that this is open to interpretation. I think that it is possible that Michael would do this. I just have a very open mind where it concerns the hoax. Lol ANYTHING is possible.

Thanks again for all of your comments! *hugs*

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Messages to Michael / Re: Unusual Request for Michael!

« on: February 08, 2010, 01:39:33 AM »

I'm a firm believer in the power of prayer. I have had personal experiences that make me a fervent believer in Jehovah God and His ability to answer prayer.

I always pray about this but it is really cool to see that there are others who do the same thing and for the same reason.

I would love to join you in this endeavor. So you can count me in. ^_^

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Other Odd Things / Re: Even hoaxers truly believe the media

« on: February 08, 2010, 01:14:52 AM »

I see it as well. lol I have seen pics of this too. I think this it is highly possible that it could be Michael. And if it's not, it may be a double that he hired.

It's true though. People are so quick to debunk stuff because they are programmed to think a certain way and to stay within the confines of what is 'logical' in the eyes of this corrupt society.

Based on what they think to be logical and prudent, they say>>> Oh! He would NEVER do a thing like that!" or they say "There is no way he could have pulled this off...there would have to be too many people involved."

And I say this…

NO ONE knows what Michael would or would not do. The only ones that know that are God and Michael. AND do not underestimate Michael and his influence.

Always have an open mind and do not be afraid to think differently than others.

In college, I took sociology and we went over this very interesting experiment that was done on live human subjects by social scientists.

They had a group of 5 people and they instructed them on what to do. They then when out on the prowl for people willing to participate in their experiment.  They were able recruit many willing participants.

Each participant was lead into a room with the group of 5 people and they were shown different things on a big screen and were asked questions on what they saw. Take note that the participant was under the impression that the others in the room with him/her were also people off the street. Then it came time for the test. The five were now going to do what they were instructed to do.
A picture came up and there was an item in the picture that was red. The social scientists that had instructed these 5 people then asked the participant a question. “What color is such n such item?” and he answered “Red.” They scientists then asked the other 5 (who were in on it) the same question and they all said “Blue.” They were instructed to try to convince that participant to agree with them.

They repeated this many times with other human subjects and the results were staggering. Those five people were able to convince almost all of the subjects to say that the object was blue when it was really red.
This is scary and sad at the same time and it just shows how thinking for oneself is becoming a rare commodity.

I totally understand you all >>Bec, Karma, Mj5StarChick, and looking4truth.

It's really important for all of us to realize how deep this brainwashing goes.

I have always been the odd one out. lol I had a really hard time in grade school because of how those around me would treat me. I never conformed to what they saw as normal. But they did not start to respect me until I stood up for myself and asserted my right to be different.

On occasion, it’s difficult because I don't want to sound condescending or rude. But,  either way...hell if you do or hell if you don't. There will always be idiots that get the wrong idea. And because they don't understand, the lash out at you and say hateful things and they do so to cover up their own insecurities.

So.... I would rather be who I want to be and get hell for it then to be who they want me to be and still get hell for it. 8-)

~alma~

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Other Odd Things / Re: GC: Did he leave a clue in his tweet?

« on: February 08, 2010, 12:26:37 AM »

This is really interesting!

And yes Jesus, I do agree... I really do think that he is watching us.

So that should be a good enough reason for some of the mean people on here to be nice. LOL Because our angel is really watching us FOR REAL and not from a cloud in heaven.

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Other Odd Things / Opus Winning Fan Tributes: A Message from MJ?

« on: February 07, 2010, 11:55:06 PM »

Hey guys!

This is a very long post so I just thought that I should let you know.

I've wanted to post this since I got here but I kept putting it off constantly because I was not really sure how to use a photo hosting program in forum posts but I have finally learned how.

Well… I thought I would share with you all these interesting things I have found about the Opus.

I have discussed this with PianoGames and we found some interesting things.

I would like to give you some excerpts from some of my messages to Piano Games along with personal views.

Message to PG on December 10th

(Start)

I’m not sure if you have been paying any attention to what has been going on with the Official Michael Jackson Opus but here is some info.

It is the only book that has been endorsed for publication by Michael Jackson himself. (along with his estate)

They suddenly decided to add tributes by fans. >>>

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I thought that this was strange.

Fans were able to post their art tributes here>>

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They had to submit their text tributes via a form. The art first had to be posted in the Official MJ Opus Flickr group and then it had to be submitted by the same form used for text entries.

The deadline was originally set for September 30th (9-30-2009) but was then pushed to October the 12th (10-12-2009).

There were thousands of entries but here are the few that were chosen>

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The Publishing date of the Opus was…dun dun dun…. December 7th. On this day, the winners were unveiled and posted on the Official Michael Jackson Opus Website.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Of all of the entries that were submitted, they only picked 26 art tributes and 18 text tributes. Unfortunately, the text tributes are not available to view. But take a look at the winning art submissions carefully.

There are a few questioning the outcome of this contest. They find it strange that the deadline was extended because so few were chosen in the end. They also complain about how a couple of the chosen artworks were not worthy to be winners.

I thought that the #s 26 and 18 were interesting. I can understand a number like 30 or even 50 (representative for his age when he supposedly died)

But why 26 and why 18? Do these numbers have a special meaning? Is it supposed to be another clue?

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Hmmmmmm…………… 18 and 26 huh? I did not get it then but I think it makes more sense now.

18 Text Tributes
On January 18th, MLK Day, we had a really important clue from the Jacksons. (The tweet on twitter)

26 Art Tributes
And then on January 26, we had the release of TII.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I can’t help but think that Michael may have had a hand in picking these winners.

The submissions chosen are at best, interesting. They seem to reflect Michael’s interests. The Opus is a very prestigious publication and I find it strange that those who were involved in choosing artworks that are to be published in this book would pick these submissions. I am not saying that these works are unworthy but they seem to be so close to what Michael is interested in. It's just a strange feeling that I have about this.

This may not mean anything but I think it would be worth looking into.

(END)

After I sent that message…I began to look at the art submissions and I started to see something quite interesting. I reversed them and I was blown away by what I saw.

Now I’m not saying that anyone should believe me or agree with what I say of these fan tributes. So don’t be so quick to jump on my @$$ here. And also, if want to just post to say that I’m looking too much into this, don’t bother. No one will convince me that this is all just a coincidence. There are just too many ‘coincidences’ in all of this for me to think otherwise. After all, this is a death hoax forum…why the heck are there non-believers here anyway? It makes no sense.

Piano Games also gave some interesting points about some of the submissions. Here is a video that he posted about it after I messaged him>>

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Here are the fan tributes accompanied with what could possibly be the decoded message.


26. People (or an organization) were after MJ (this can also be interpreted as stress or pressure or even his concerns about the world and the evil things that have been going on)

So to escape, he had to


25. die or fake his death (La Toya said that he was buried in this particular outfit)

So that he would be able to


24. Go into the shadows/hiding/slip under the radar

So that


23. the sun/light will shine on the true criminal

And


22. MJs true self will be revealed with light and truth

But he


21. promises/swears (rainbow)

That he


20. will be fine even though it will be difficult (forced smile)

while he is on his


19. adventure/quest

All the while


18. holding the media (cat) back from covering Conrad Murray (rat) and the death investigation (yarn)

He is doing all of this while he carries out his plans for/ or may be at


17. Neverland.

He would like to stress that


16. He is alive (white divine, black earthly)

and that he has achieved


15. VICTORY

>>>>>>>>>>>
I would like to make an important note on this particular picture. The Artist submitted his work with the words Michael Jackson 1958-2009 written in white beside Michael and the Opus edited that out. If you look in the book or at the fan tribute page on the Opus website, you will notice this. They blacked it out.
This is how the art was originally submitted>>>



Now some may argue that it was done because it would not have fit. And I say that that argument makes sense BUT all they would have to do to fix that would be for them to just move the text a bit lower and closer to Michael. That way they would not have to insult the artist by messing with the integrity of the artists original work. But instead, they chose to remove it completely. And say that they did this to preven the date of death from being in the opus PERIOD. The Opus has no date of death at all. i know because I have one and I have looked through it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

But remember that


14. he is still watching the (his) world (the world of MJ, news, fans)

He wants us to know that his


13. transformation and revenge will take place

While he is


12. in disguise/in hiding

But do not forget that


11. it is all for L.O.V.E.

And with


10. a childs heart and innocence

He has been overtaken with a


9. cleansing spirit (those of us that water paint call this a watercolor wash)

As he is


8. In the room with us but in the shadows, his accomplishments (autograph card) will be in the light

And


7. his influence (his image made with tape) in all music/dance (cassette tape) will be acknowledged.

For this (death) to serve its purpose, he


6. can not show his face yet

Because he must first


5. gather support (power/energy) from fans and the people of the world

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Note: This art contribution resembles the characteristics of two of the most popular Japanese cartoons called Dragon Ball Z and Sailor Moon. In Dragon Ball Z, the main character Goku has attacks in which he must gather energy from nature and the earth in order for his attack to be effective. In Sailor Moon, the main character Sailor Moon’s attacks depend solely on the power of LOVE and in many dire cases, the power of the love of her comrades. In Michaels case, it would be safe to say that he depends on our LOVE and support. I’m new to Micheal’s world but even I know that he is no stranger to anime. (Japanese cartoons) He even used them in his ‘Scream’ music video.
>>>>>>>>>>>
 
while he is still


4. in the shadows

So that they can


3. Come Together (Michael wore this outfit when he performed Come Together in Moonwalker)

And once his

(One and two were switched in the actuall Opus. The child’s drawing is #1 and the charcoal drawing of Bad era MJ is #2)


2. legacy stands strong and untarnished (looks like tarnished silver that is being polished)

He will make a triumphant


1.Comeback (resurrection) >>bunny =Easter=Resurrection
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Here is another excerpt from a message that I sent to Piano games

(Start)
During the time that I have been looking over these, I have been noticing a few things.
This contest was supposedly made to showcase different styles and ideas of a Global fanbase. The chapter that these are in is titled Global Icon

First I would like to point out the undeniable similarities between submission #4, #22, and #24. All three convey shadows and the perspective in which these are done is exactly the same. And also, #10 has the same mood when it comes to perspective and shadows. The following submissions also convey the same concept >Shadow and Mystery >>>> #2, #3, #6, #8, #13, #15, #16 #17, #23,
To me these are not relevant in trying to represent different styles.
They are all beautiful and they deserve to be in the Opus in my opinion BUT these were chosen for the purpose of relaying a message.

I will also break down where these artists are from. Seeing that this was a global endeavor, I found the demographics of the artists to be contradictory. Here is what I mean>>

Of the chosen artists for the Opus, 6 are from the United States, 5 are from the United Kingdom, (That’s nearly half of the winners from just 2 countries) 3 from France, 2 from Japan, 2 from the Netherlands and the rest are each from 8 other different countries.

I have found most of the chosen artists but I cannot find the artists who created #7 and #22. I wonder who created them.

(End)

It would be really cool if you guys could give your opinions. Maybe you might see something else important that I may have missed.

Anyway, I would love to hear what other believers think about this and the whole deal with the Opus.

PS: And yes I know that I’m one of the ones whose art was selected (#18) but I am not saying that Michael picked us to glorify my work. I NEVER expected to be selected and I was very surprised to find out that The Opus chose my painting. I was also not a believer when I made this painting and submitted it. So please don’t get the wrong idea here. I just really think that this is important for the believers of the hoax.

It’s always been and it will always be about L.O.V.E.

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This Is It / Re: More Clues in Official 'This Is It' Photo Book?

« on: February 02, 2010, 02:11:57 AM »

BabyShine: Yes I fully understand that and that's exactly why I ended the thread title with a question mark. I was asking a question so that others would give their views and opinions. I also believe that these have a double meaning but they are worth looking into. I just find it all too strange that they just happen to be in white and that they stand out. Prior to the books publication, many death hoaxers have pointed out several of these particular phrases. But this is all open to interpretation. Even so, I do not think that this should be ignored simply because it has a double meaning. But on the contrary, having a closed mind is indeed what can lead to the wrong path. And I say this with all the love in the world.

simalves: Woah! I had never noticed that about the stain!!!! You are absolutely right! That is interesting...You know, when I saw the movie in the theater for the first time, I noticed how the other MJs seemed out of character.  But, this may also be an indication that the other MJs were probably doubles. I think that either of these things is a possibility.

Thanks for the input guys!

~alma~

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Other Odd Things / Re: Sony’s New Slogan: Clue or Coincidence?

« on: February 02, 2010, 01:20:51 AM »

Thanks for you input everyone!

Thank you so much for the link Believe 777!

Melzy 777: I happen to find it to be way too much of a coincidence that this slogan was launched on September 3rd which happens to be the day for the funeral. lol

It's important to remember that Michael happens to own half of Sony. Those in the company itself would probably not be in on it because that would be very risky. But MJ is most certainly capable of having plants in the company that may be involved with the creative control of Sony. This is just a thought though. But who knows...this may be right on the mark.

michaelsupporter: I totally agree with you! that makes a lot of sense!

The Jacksonologist: Oooh! Let me send you a PM!

As for the video. I would not be so quick to call it a fake. Some will say so because they think that it does not sound EXACTLY like him. We all sound different under stress and in different situations. I will take heed to Michael's message and have an open mind.

Purelove: I think you are referring to Dom, the one who claims to be from the UK. That in itself is interesting. I find it strange that this guy is from the UK. He sounds very American to me. I think that it is possible that Dom may be Michael. It's funny how his song called D.S. is referring to the DA that tried to ruin him. He calls him 'Dom' rather than 'Tom.' Michael loves to play games. Although I do not believe that Michael would ever admit to being Dom just like he may never admit to impersonating Dave Dave, attending his own memorial as ‘hatman’ or the blond lady. I'm not saying that he is either of these characters but I know that if I was him, I would not admit to being any of these people. It's all in fun and he's probably enjoying every moment of it.

I can say from experience on this one.

I used to be really into anime and cosplay (I still love to cosplay and make costumes) I would go to anime conventions where there are others who are also deep into cosplay.

Cosplay is a word that comes from 'costume' and 'play.' You put them together to form 'cosplay.' Cosplay is the works. > Costume, make-up wig, accessories etc.

Anyway, I'm female and I love to cosplay as male characters. We call this crossplay. It's a lot of fun and it's even more enjoyable when people can't figure out if you are male of female. It's crazy fun and it's much more fun when you leave them guessing. The same applies to all of the costumes I have ever done. I look like a TOTALLY different person in each one. Only those who know me very well know of all of my costumes and they are able to spot me. As for others, they just stare and talk among themselves trying to figure things out. To me it's a game and I love to be the player.

I think that's how Michael sees all of this. He's playing and having a lot of fun. But in doing so, he is also striving to bring a message across. A message of L.O.V.E.

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This Is It / Re: More Clues in Official 'This Is It' Photo Book?

« on: January 29, 2010, 05:24:06 AM »

5 on the photo to see why they left in the background Michael Jackson who is not part of the time this is it

That's a really good point Idéalo! I forgot to mention that. lol Thanks for pointing that out!

That is really strange isn't it? I was always wondering why on earth that photo was on there. It's the only one that is not from 'This Is It' in the entire book.