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Michael / Re: MJ's New Album Zooms to Number… Five?
« on: December 15, 2010, 12:39:23 AM »
Wow! That's really awesome news! I just got my album like 9 hours ago and I'm still listening to it. I love it!

This is just the first few days of release so I think that the album is doing quite well. I'm sure that it will chart higher in the next few days.

Michael / 'Monster'- 50 Cent says : “The King has Risen”
« on: December 15, 2010, 12:24:29 AM »
I just got “Michael’ today and I have to say that I love the album! I will not say that I know for sure that all the tracks are him because I do not believe that I am in any position to make a judgment on that. I’m a post June 25th fan so as you can see, I have not been listening to his music as long as many of you have.

But I must say that some parts of ‘Monster’ remind me of Jason Malachi. But then again, I thought that Jason’s song called “Let go’ was Michael at first. So yeah, I’m no one to judge in this department.  

With that said, I find it quite interesting that this is one of the tracks that some of you  have found to be in question.

ANYWAY…Here’s the real reason I’m posting.

I was listening to the album with my mom and right away, we both noticed some lyrics on the track titled ‘Monster.’

During the rap section by 50 Cent, he says some interesting things. He talks about a cemetery and then at approximately 3:12, 50 Cent says “the King has risen.”

I know that there is more interesting stuff. It would be cool if you guys would listen to 50 Cents rap section and try to decipher what he is saying and give your opinion on it. I will do my best to do that and post it here. He says everything so fast! LOL But I welcome others to do this if they would like to. ^_^;

I just wanted to know if anyone noticed this. I would love to hear from you guys! <3

Oh and for those who will jump the gun and say "Don't read too much into things. Not everything is a clue." I would like to say this >>>

Don't be so blind as to dismiss everything. I'm not saying that this is a clue beyond the shadow of a doubt but from all of the things I have seen, I no longer believe in coincidences. This one is just too obvious for me. Besides, (with all do respect) if you guys are such skeptics, what the heck are you doing here? <_<;

Michael's Impersonators / Re: Female impersonator Dev
« on: December 10, 2010, 04:08:33 AM »
Wow! I'm amazed at how she does her make up! At first I thought that she had surgery. She does a very good job. However, I noticed that she did not take her glasses off. But I can understand this as Michael's eyes are very hard to emulate. Even so, I think she's better than most male impersonators that I have seen.

Thanks for posting this! <3

TIAI & TS Discussions / Re: TS and all else
« on: November 29, 2010, 03:17:34 AM »
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Gema"
Souza, your post is very eloquent.

Imo, People just panic at times and can´t find clearly what they panic from.

I still don´t understand why TS involved Elvis with this hoax on the first place. The chaos starts from there.

Maybe that is done intentional to see if people would loose their heads over it and stop beLIEving.

I will so read all of your post Souza! LOL But I'm so sleepy right now it's not even funny. @_@

But anyway, I just wanted to add something on this real quick.

I honestly believe that the Elvis connection runs much deeper. I did not really understand it at first but I have come to believe that it is not meant to cause confusion or to test our fortitude. I have been looking into that recently and I have had some really strange but enlightening revelations concerning this. I will be making a post about that in the coming months. I'm sure it will be MUCH sooner but I do not want to make any promises. lol

I have a really big project planned and I will be contacting both you and Mo about it soon. That's kinda the reason why I have not posted on here that often. >_<;

June 25, 2010 / Re: A Believers’ Confessional
« on: September 22, 2010, 06:02:48 AM »
Quote from: "letstalkagain"
I think that since you were not a fan of his before June 25th.  Well, I think that you are using his death as a sort of diversion from your problems.  Maybe it is a way to focus on something other than yourself and your problems.   Sometimes really looking at a painful situation within our own selves can be a very excruciating thing to do.   Maybe you can look at Michael situation and handle it much more better than you could ever handle your own prolems.   My comment to you are not in any way meant to hurt or belittle your situation, because I know I have experienced it before.   Plus fixation can also be a form of escapism.   God Bless YOU !!

I have not looked at this thread for some time. o_o

Hmmm…That’s interesting but I’ll have to say that I can’t relate to that. O_o;

I suppose that the last part of your comment was meant as means to sugar coat a lollipop made entirely of earwax so to speak.  I know that’s a disgusting comparison but I must say that that is a rather intricately detailed assumption to make about someone you know little to nothing about. That’s not to say that I don’t understand what you are trying to say. I do but I fervently disagree. Even so, I’m not at all offended by it. I just could not imagine someone making an assumption like that about another person unless they had ulterior motives. I’ll leave it at that.

I guess it’s ‘human nature’ for us to try and find logical explanations for things that we have no way of explaining on our own. I would think that by now, people on here would quit trying to do that and accept this as it is. >> An awakening of those who are chosen to spread Michael’s God-given message of L.O.V.E.

As a former atheist who always tried to use logic as a center of all things, I can tell you that I would have never imagined that I would ever say something like that.

Yeah I know that everyone in the world has problems but I can’t say that mine (pre- June 25th) were major or traumatizing for that matter. I mean really…

The only big problem that I have ever had has to do with my big brother.

He’s a former drug addict and would always break in our house and steal anything of value to get himself some drug fixes. (My YAMAHA synthesizer, 12 string guitar, ovation guitar, flute, jewelry, VCR (yeah this happened years ago))  Forgiveness is such a beautiful thing though. Whether he has changed or not, I can’t be sure. That’s between him and God. This had been going on since he was 17. Now he’s about to be 31. LOL

The year before Michael’s “disappearance” (2008), I won an art contest and went to San Diego Comic Con in California to meet a very famous Japanese manga (comic) artist that I had always wanted to meet. It was so awesome! It was a dream come true for a huge anime fan like me. I was so happy that I gave up all of the anime conventions here in Texas and I was happy to do that because they were so lame in comparison to SDCC.

I began plans for my 2009 cosplay (costume) line up. I had sketches of characters all over the place and I was so excited to look through my fabric library (yes I have a fabric library LOL I have bought so many fabrics that I need a whole room to put them in) to pick out fabrics suitable for my projects or to shop for fabrics that I may have needed.

I started the first costume on my list. It required a lot of attention to detail and I had to make my own pattern for the entire thing. When I was not in class, I would work on it. I knew that it was going to be my next pride and joy.

For those who care, here are links to give you an idea of what kind of work I would dedicate my free time to. Both galleries are mine but have different IDs. These galleries contain photos of me in the costumes that I created. Most of the photos have descriptions. I have lots more recent photos but I never got to post them.

This is not meant to show off in any way. I just want people to understand a little about who I am and how this has affected me.
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Now I challenge someone to give me an explanation backed up with cold hard facts as to how this could affect someone like me who was very dedicated and passionate about a very intense hobby. This was my life! This was my breath! THIS was my escape! How can I just not care about it anymore? This is what made me happy. Don’t get me wrong. I still love to create things and I always will. My creative energy has been at a standstill since June 25, 2009. I’ve made things here and there but nothing quite as involving as before.
In May 2009, I graduated from college with honors. It was a very happy time for me. I made my parents proud.

God has blessed me with awesome parents that are loving and supportive and I love them so much. They are not demanding because they have never had to be with me. I’m a self motivator and I do things on my own. I don’t need people to push me.  By the time they ask me “Do you have any homework?” I was usually finished with it.

We have our differences but we always find a way to resolve them.

As far as faith goes.

Yeah I was an atheist and I’m not proud that by any means. I was also searching for something but that was always on the back burner. It was never a vexing issue in my life. It never interfered with my happiness. At the time, I figured “well….no one really knows for certain if there is a god so there probably isn’t” *shoulder shrug* “Pshh.” >_> *moving on to what really matters and what I know is real>>>>> life*

That was my attitude towards that.

I was a little more than halfway done with my first cosplay in mid June 2009. (I keep track of dates) I had planned to have this one and about 3 other cosplays done by the end of the year 2009. I had some really detailed costumes on my list. I liked to plan everything to the letter when it came to my costumes.

On June 25th, my mom and I decided to have lunch/dinner at a Chinese Restaurant. (I have told this story before.) And this old man with a cane and his wife came in and sat down. They got drinks. The old man had so much trouble getting around and I remember him getting up and walking to the bathroom. He came back and sat down. He then interrupted our conversation to tell us that Michael Jackson had passed away. I thought that was strange because there were many other people around that were closer to him. Why us? They didn’t order anything to eat. I don’t even remember them leaving. It’s as if they just disappeared. Their drinks were full too.

My mom was also very affected by it. She still cries (to this day) whenever we talk about Michael. I keep her up to date on the hoax though. She believes it’s possible that Michael could still be alive as well. Even so, she still has doubts.

Now as for my cosplay projects…..I have not touched them since the morning of June 25th, 2009. On that day, I ceased to care about everything I ever loved to do in a split second. All that mattered was confirming if ‘It’ was true. With my ‘conditioned’ mindset, I accepted it as true and with that, I plummeted down to the darkest days of my life. A life with no meaning seemed to await me with the passing of every day.

I was so confused about my emotions towards Michael. I was not a fan at all. I wan an anime addict who only listened to Japanese music. I felt like I had been invaded emotionally by a foreigner. I felt so trapped and I wanted out but I didn’t know what to do. All I could see was Michael’s worried face. All I could hear was Michael’s voice beckoning me.  I would spend my nights weeping until I would eventually fall asleep. I would spend my days trying to make myself pick up the shattered pieces of my old life but I had to give up on that eventually because it was of no use. Even my cats picked up on my emotions and would do the best they could to ease the pain but of to no avail. It’s so strange how animals can sense if something is wrong.

As for trying to use this as a diversion…….

The rug was pulled from under me and I fell flat on my @$$! This hit me in the face like a sledge hammer during the MOST awesome and happiest time of my life!!!! I was walking on air before this. It seemingly ruined my happiness for 4 months!!! Someone could have burned my diploma or the autograph I got at SDCC and I would not have given a flying hell. I wish it was as simple as a ‘diversion.’ I would have had more control over it if it was. I was always in control of my emotions. I had them in check. This has taken me through the ringer emotionally. I have never been that sad in my ENTIRE life!

This tops all of my ‘traumatizing’ problems if I ever had any.

The only thing that keeps me from falling back into that abyss is the evidence and my belief of Michael being alive somewhere in this cruel world.

For 4 long grueling months, I wished my ‘fixation’ could have been my old pre-June 25th’ life where all that mattered was what was in my own little world: my art, cosplay, collecting anime merchandise, craftsmanship competitions, anime conventions, J-pop rock bands, and meeting others who shared the same interests.

In the words of George Lopez:  ‘Simpler times…simpler times.’

But there is one thing that cannot be denied. I’ve been awakened. Michael changed my life and opened my eyes to the truth in this world filled with deception. I will ALWAYS love him for that and I’m not going to let anyone take that away from me.

Perhaps I do not deserve to be Michael’s fan. That may be true. After all, it took Michael’s ‘death’ for this self-interested atheist to find salvation and to really learn what real unconditional LOVE is.

So if it turns out that he really is gone, I’M gonna be the one that will have to live with that for the rest of my insignificant life.

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Quote from: "BeTheChange"
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:lol:  :lol:  I have no time to go back and read about TS, I have more important things to read and do. Just tell me in couple words, I'll get it.

I can sum up TS in a 'couple words' for you....Educate yourself.

Educate myself in what, hoax?  :lol:  You better educate yourself to get the degree in more serious professional field I have.

Well now, that’s a bit condescending.  >_>

If you are going to throw your weight around and belittle others where it concerns education, it would probably be a good idea to brush up on your grammar skills.

I can’t believe that someone on here would make such a comment.

I don’t see how getting familiar with TS and his/her posts could possibly take that much of time.

But seriously… If you have that kind of attitude towards all of this, why are you here?

If you don’t care about TS, that’s fine but don’t try to make those of us that do care feel like we don’t have lives.

Aside from that, what makes you sure that those of us on this forum do not have professional degrees or are in the process of getting such degrees? Trust me. You are not the only educated one here.

This is so wrong… I can’t believe I’m even replying to such a comment.

I’m really sorry Michael. Please forgive me. ~_~;

I would also like to apologize to TS, Souza, Mo and my fellow members of this forum. I just really get upset when people try to degrade others.

Thanks so much for this awesome post TS! I can read your updates over and over without getting bored because your updates are filled with so much great and interesting info!

I had actually checked thisisalsoit about and two or three hours ago and it had redirected to the page that contains all of your updates. I then thought to myself....'Hmmmmm. I bet TS is gonna make another post!' I left it at that and went on to do other stuff online. I decided to check it again before I got busy with organizing my digital music collection and I was redirected here. lol I just about forgot what I was gonna do in the first place because I got so excited about your new post. XDDD

I think that it will be quite interesting to see if there will actually be members on here who will try to challenge the evidence in an effort to claim your $999 prize.

I beLIEve but not blindly. I like to see things for myself and then reach a decision on my own based on the evidence that I see. I would like to thank you for creating a comprehensive outline of the evidence.

Your updates are much appreciated!

I send love to you,

God Bless You!


TIAI & TS Discussions / Re: TIAI: Who still believe?
« on: August 24, 2010, 03:46:10 AM »
I still believe and I always will. I'm here for a very strong reason.

But I will not shower myself in purity by saying that I never have doubts. I'm also only human.

Doubt comes creeping in every once in a while. Even so, it's not strong enough to make me stop believing. It just makes me go back and ask myself why I believe Michael is still alive. The evidence is plain to see. If Michael was really gone, (and I know that he isn't) there would not be so many well planned clues and 'coincidences' that strategically lead one with an open mind to believe that Michael did not die on June 25th, 2009 and that he is indeed alive.

This has not been an easy path for me. I cried countless times when I believed he was gone. I went through every stage of grief you can imagine. I hesitantly accepted his 'death' but was unable to find closure. Something seemed very wrong but I was unable to put my finger on it. I would always wonder how this could affect someone like me.

This feels like a calling of some kind.

I send all of you my love,


June 25, 2010 / Re: A Believers’ Confessional
« on: July 12, 2010, 05:07:44 AM »
I meant to get on here but stuff happens I suppose.

quinnnadu: I did forget to say this but one thing that must be understood is that I was not a beLIEver when all of this started. I actually believed that Michael really was gone for about 4 months after June 25th, 2009. So I do carry with me memories of that immense feeling of loss. It’s really hard to rid myself of them because there is always that little ‘What if...’ element in anything without REAL cold hard facts. Yes there is purposed ‘evidence’ but none of this has been directly confirmed by anyone of importance or for that matter, anyone in Michael’s camp. I’m not trying to disrespect anyone by saying this but it’s just the way I see it.

Even so, I’m still a beLIEver and nothing will change that.

But after all, ‘I’m only human...’  Doubt is one of the many threads of ‘human nature.

missy_missy , neversaynever, happythoughts: I was not a fan PERIOD. LOL All I listened to was Japanese/Asian music. I would go to Anime conventions hardcore. And I would wear nothing but anime shirts and bags. I would also cosplay (dressup) as anime characters in conventions and compete at the craftsmanship level of costume design. I have even travelled thousands of miles to meet famous Manga-ka (Japanese comic book authors) I was a HARDCORE anime fan/addict without any other interests. I would submerge myself in all things Japanese/Asian. There is evidence of that in my signature. (my anime renditions of Michael)   How could this affect someone like me?

Michael and his message are everything to me.

I think that this is a testament to how important this really is. This has brought people from all walks of life together.  I totally agree. There is a reason for this.

2good2btrue: I totally feel you in regards to everything that you have said! I love you too! X3

nefari, peacock shine : Yes, his hold is quite strong. I can’t seem to pull away no matter how much I try. LOL But even though it’s painful sometimes, I’m loving every moment of it. (I hope that did not come out wrong >_>)

Laine29: No Kidding! LMAO!

mjfansince4: That was a beautiful and deep post. Thank you so much for sharing that!

this1crazygirl: ‘straight-jacket friends...’ That just cracked me up! LOL!!!

breakodawn: WOW! That’s VERY interesting and it’s worth thinking about.

SoldierofLOVE: Yes I have to agree. This is definitely something VERY spiritual.

MashMike: I could not stop crying when I typed ‘my confession.’ It’s even difficult to read even though it’s composed of my own words. It is hard but I will always ‘keep the faith.’

rowdyangel: I send you lots of love too *hugs*

Rita Hayworth, MJonmind, mjj4ever777, missdanipyt: OMG.... That’s really something. Aside from my former anime obsession, I had been searching within myself and seeking salvation. And then ...BAM! (June 25th 2009) I use to be an atheist.

Now I read the bible everyday when before, I would never touch one with a 10ft pole. lol

I ‘m not very sure on what my mission is (precisely) but I do agree with in that we are ‘chosen’ and will work together to accomplish something so big that not even the most prepared beLIEver will be able to wrap their mind around it. And yes, we really must "gird our loins" in preparation for what is to come.

After so much questioning (Why me?!?!?! WHY WHY WHY!?!), I have finally given in and surrendered.

God knows what he does. I’m the one who does not so therefore, I must follow.

Marissa87: I understand how you feel. I know that it can be difficult sometimes but ‘keep the faith.’ *hugs*

I would like to thank all you guys for posting your support and your stories. I’m truly touched by them and I really mean it when I say that.

Hugs and L.O.V.E. to all of you,


I would also like to express my support and commitment to Michael’s Army of L.O.V.E.

Although I must admit that I am not very active in online communities. I'm sure that I can change that though.

This has been quite a ride that has been filled with tears and laughter, happiness and sorrow, courage and fear, as well as confusion and enlightenment.

I know I have posted this before on a youtube comment (not as detailed due to the word constraint) but I will post it again because I feel that it is necessary.

I was at a Chinese restaurant with my mom and this elder gentleman walked in with a cane and his wife was with him. There were many people sitting around the area and they sat down in one of the empty tables. We were in deep conversation and he interrupted us to say "Did you know that Michael Jackson died today?" My mom and I both looked at each other with puzzled looks. All I remember saying was 'No way! Are you serious?!' There were so many people that were closer to him. Why did he feel the need to say that to us? He did not say anything else aside from that. Typically one tends to carry spurts of conversation throughout being in proximity of one another. He never looked at us again. It was as if he came in there to tell us that. They just ordered drinks and then they left. It was very strange. I live in a very small community. I have never seen that man or his wife again. We go to that restaurant quite often.

The circumstances upon which I came to the knowledge of Michael's 'death' are very mysterious to me. If it did not happen that way, I may have never tried to find out more. I would have just gone on with my life. But God willed it as such.

I was not a fan at all and here I am. I was also not a beLIEver for about 4 months after his ‘death.’ I was in my own little world of Japanese cartoons and culture. I had been into that for almost 13 years. Nothing in this world could change that.

Michael was the only one who did.

I can't even explain how this has affected me. The rug was pulled from under my feet and I fell flat on my face. The impact was so hard that it's as if I suffered permanent amnesia. I’m like a new person who sees the world so differently now.  

Here is a link to a thread that I made in an attempt to express my feelings:
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I am here for a purpose and I beLIEve for a reason.


Random MJ Talk / Cheer up! - A Little HIStory - Happy 4th of July!
« on: July 05, 2010, 02:11:45 AM »
I finally have time to get on here for a bit….


Here is a little something that I was working on through the 4th of July weekend. I hope you guys enjoy this painting. It was really fun to make. =3

I was not sure where to post this so I decided to post it here.  >_<

Michael Jackson News / Re: Pepsi 'DREAMS' - A Detailed Analysis
« on: June 26, 2010, 03:26:11 AM »
I’m so sorry for taking such a long time to respond on here. It would always get late and I was to sleepy to even check these threads out.

change the world: Thank you! I hope you enjoyed the read. XDDD I’m glad that this has had an effect on you. I feel that this is a very important message.

MJsFan4Ever: Great! Feel free to comment if you want to.

Nakiska: Thank you! Don’t think too hard! LOL

Stranger In Chi-town: It is isn’t it? I have always loved this ad. ^_^ Thanks!

Hazzely: It’s symbolic of the wine. Lol But I do not believe that they had any idea as to what the meanings and significance of the symbolism or connotations were. I’m sure that they just figured “ Hey! It’s MJ! There will be big money in anything he does.” I think that it’s the only reason why they did not give a heck about the content of Michel’s work where it concerned any ad. I quite honestly prefer the taste of Pepsi but I’m not much of a soda drinker. :P

whisper: I agree with you. The ‘Dangerous’ cover has always been on my mind with all of this. I’ll be sure to check that info you have in your post out and let you know what I think. ^^

sk2001: OMG! Thank you!!! I should actually go through everything again. This revelation concerning the ad and the other thread has been something recent. I am starting to see so many more symbolic connections in Michael’s other videos now that I have seen them recently after I made these posts.

Serenitys_Dream: Hmmmm... That is some really good food for thought! I agree with you in that this is ‘something much more amazing that people are willing to admit.’ This has definitely touched me in so many ways. I have such a desire for the truth. This has never happened to me before. I was always too blind to see anything with conviction. That is until Michael ‘gracefully’ danced into my life. Hehe! No I’m proud to be his fan but I sometimes do not feel worthy.

StargazerMJ11: You are very welcome! Thank you for your post!  The world really does answer to Rome whether it be directly or through the use of her many spawns. It’s funny that you mention it! I actually have heard of Alberto Rivera. He has quite an insight into what’s really happed in our world. I had read his story in the form of comic books about 5 years ago. I had them stored away since then. When I really began to look into Michael’s Pepsi Ad, I turned my whole house upside down to find them again. It all started with that golden hand sceptre that the woman was holding.

LOL! Mr. Aggressive is a perfect name for him! I’m not too keen on his approach either. I’m glad that you find this interesting! Thank you!

mjintrigue2012: I’m really sorry if it’s too much info! ><; i tried my best to make it as brief as possible. Feel free to pm me if you want. ^_^ I understand how you feel.

LunaCielo: Thank you so much! I do agree that Michael was trying to expose the truth so since he was ‘Dangerous’ to their agenda, he had to be dealt with. He was persecuted for it. I had a hard time with that too but research has really convinced me that the Vatican really is the main culprit in all of our world’s wars, mass killings and disasters. They do anything to cover up the fact that they are involved in every secret society and cultic practice there is.

Ijustcantstoplovingu: Thank you! I hope that you find the other post insightful! ^_^;

Sarahli: You’r welcome! ;3 I must agree that ‘all roads lead to Rome.’ This seems like a classic case of modern-day persecution to me. I know that God has his hand on Michael. I truly believe that it is possible that this is his message. It may have always been and that’s why they persecuted him. And yes, the Vatican has full control of the NWO. The Vatican hates Democracy because it gives us the absolute freedom of faith and therefore, freedom from control. I also agree with you about WW3 and 2012.

I do not think that you are going too far at all. You just have your eyes wide open.

The Third Secret of Fatima: I have actually heard of this and have read about it. I agree in that it may have importance in all of this. I’ll be sure to revisit all of my research documents. Fell free to post anything about it on here if you want. ^.^

Woah! That is some very interesting info where it concerns this! (Murray church, Rome Tribute, Missing Italy date, When in Rome Movie)  I had seen all of those posts and articles but I have not really looked at anything hoax related as of late because I was getting all of this together to post. Thanks for that info!

Glinda: That is interesting! Although I have always though that he tapes his fingers as another reference to the number ‘7’ If you count the fingers that are not taped, they equal ‘7.’

lotus_sutra: Thank you! I just really wanted people to think about this and think for themselves. It’s never a good idea to be ‘conditioned by the system.’  Michael has been right all along! ‘Tin foil hats!' LMAO!!!

voiceforthesilent: Thank you! I agree in that God divinely inspires those who have a close relationship with Him. I feel that Michael has always been inspired by God.

tekamjforever: EXACTLY! But I think ‘they’ figured that they would kill two birds with one stone.

1. They punish Michael for such heretical acts
2. And then they do it at a time when the Catholic Church is coping with thousands of child sex abuse cases on priests.

Fortunately, there are still individuals who are not influenced by the powers that be. God placed the right people at the right time at Michael’s side so that he would be able to successfully pull it off.

June 25, 2010 / A Believers’ Confessional
« on: June 24, 2010, 10:51:39 PM »
My confession to all of you, my fellow beLIEvers

This is actually something I wrote at the spur of the moment. I personally do not believe in confessionals but I figured that this would be the best thing to call it. It would actually be nice if this could be a place where fellow beLIEvers post their own feelings, fears and confessions as important dates knock at our doors. This is actually something I’m a bit ashamed of so please understand that it is not easy for me to show this to the world so to speak. It was really hard to write this because I could not stop myself from crying.

I had just seen that special on Animal Planet about Michael Jackson and Bubbles: ‘The Untold Story.’ The last bit of that show with Latoya talking with Bubbles stuck with me for some reason. Yes I believe that Michael may still be alive but there are things that tend to pull on the ‘heart strings.’ It did not cause me to have doubt but seeing Latoya cry like that broke my heart into a million pieces. I just felt like hugging her and crying with her.

I know that I am not very active on here but I read nearly everything you guys post. I feel like I know all of you because of that. So here I present you my personal confession. I was actually gonna delete this but I decided that I should share this with you instead.
It’s almost that time…

As I sit here, I’m riddled with thoughts and memories. It’s really hard not to think about him. I ask myself… Have I gone mad? Am I losing touch with reality?

Here I am hanging by a thread. I feel that if I move just a little, I’ll fall into a dark hole. A bottomless pit with no end, that is, no end in life. But only death could end it.

There isn’t a day that doesn’t go by in which I don’t think of him. He still haunts me in my dreams. I want him to leave me alone but he doesn’t. He continues to dance on the black reflective corridors of my mind. It’s as if he is calling me to go with him.

The love that I have for this man is nearly unrivaled by anything on this earth. I have never in my life loved another human being like this. They say that love is a beautiful thing but if that were so, why is this so painful?

I demand an answer from myself as I did that day and every day since then.

Why does this matter? Why does he matter? I was not a fan before that day so why is he so important to me? Why did it have to take what happened on that day for me to pay attention to him?

 It’s like a sickness, a disease with no cure.

No matter where I go, there he is in the form of an elegant broach, in the form of a sequined article of clothing or in a fedora hat that adorns a mannequin. I want to run away from the world to avoid seeing objects that provoke such emotions. But even if I could, I would be in the confines of my room, a room which is filled with memories of him. For it was modified and conceived in the wake of my deepest sorrow. Every stroke of the paintbrush was executed with such strong emotions towards him and his plight.  I can’t escape from looking at any portion of my habitation without being reminded of what I felt when I was working on it.  

There is no closure whatsoever.

I wish I knew when this would all end. I wish that it were that simple. I wish that I could just move on but I can’t.

Every day that goes by, I’m pummeled with emotions and thoughts that eventually lead to him.

I am a prisoner of such emotions and I can’t break free.

Like a ball and chin, I carry this immense burden with every step that I take. It’s so heavy and it’s weighing on me.  It really is.

Despite the fact that there is such strong evidence that he is alive, I’m still unable to rid myself of this misery.

It is going to be a year and yet my wound is still fresh and it refuses to heal.

The summer sun shines ever so brightly but it can’t seem to penetrate even the thinnest parts of this cloud that hangs over me. I’m drenched in my own tears. I almost can’t have salt because I’m sickened with the many tears that I have tasted.

I can’t imagine being subjected to life in which there is such emptiness and longing. The air that I breathe is forever filled with the bitter scent of nostalgia.

What’s wrong with me?

Why is this happening to me?

When will this end?

I wish I had an answer to all of these questions but sadly, I don’t and I do not know if I ever will.

All I know is that on that day, June 25th 2009, my old self died and I was born to a whole new world but I’m not sure if I like it.

Without Michael, I’m not sure if I like it at all.


To Souza and Mo:   
I’m really sorry if this is in the wrong place. As this is not hoax related, I was not sure where to post it. I just wanted it to be in a place that people would be able to see it.

Was MJ framed to avert media attention from Catholic priest child abuse cases?

I’m sure that the title of this post is quite shocking. That is if this has not been discussed. I have never seen this subject addressed. And if it has been, it sure does not seem like it since everyone is so quick to specifically blame the Illuminati as the only source of Michael’s troubles. And that may be true in some instances but it does not hurt to explore other possibilities. I for one was, for the lack of a better word, gob-smacked when I had first started seeing connections here and there while doing research into the subject. I must warn you though. This will be quite lengthy.

I would like to again stress that this is not meant to offend people. This is simply a quest for truth. If you are offended, then you just might not be ready for the truth and this may be the wrong place for you.

I will also say this again >>>>

I will not entertain arguments over this so do not even try to convince me otherwise where it concerns this particular subject.

SO…If you are going to say something hateful and insulting, I will ignore you but send you L.O.V.E. I have nothing to prove.

Shall we begin?

Yeah sure I believed everything that Michael went through was a product of a malevolent conspiracy but for some reason, I felt that the whole conspiracy went much deeper than just the Illuminati. And Michael seems to have been aware of it as well.

I’ll start with this video. I know this is old stuff but please watch the whole thing and listen attentively to what Michael says. It is quite short. It’s really important that you do so in order to further understand what I am about to discuss here.
2:27 Notice how Michael referred to a conspiracy here in America but wished not to comment on it further. You can also hear the attorneys talking in the background in an attempt to either get the reporter away from the subject or to stop Michael from exposing the truth for fear of retaliation. I would imagine that this was quite a sensitive subject.

I have researched extensively on the Jesuits and the Roman Catholic System for about 6 years and I did most of this research as an atheist. I suppose that that was the best possible way that I could have done such research because I delved into it with out any bias towards it. I was not out to disprove anything. I just wanted to find facts and that’s all that mattered to me. So I present to you a short synopsis of my research on the Jesuits, their purpose, and its possible connections that I have found to the attacks on Michael Jackson the man, his charitable work for children and his career as an entertainer.

The strange thing about all this is that I did not notice the connections up until I began to really understand the significance of the Pepsi Ad called ‘Dreams’ and the symbolism behind Michael’s panther dance at the end of the Black Or White music video. I’m sure many of you remember the controversy surrounding that segment of the video. They tried to say that it was the sexual innuendos and the violent destructive behavior on Michael Jackson’s part that caused the uproar. But there were plenty of other videos that contained much more sexual content and violent behavior. What was so different about Michael’s representation of the same things? Michael is not simply bashing in car windows and building windows. He’s bashing in racist symbols and slurs that are painted on the windows. What so ‘racist’ about that? If anything, it encourages unity and a view that we are all equal and that there is no room for hate. It’s symbolic of tearing down al prejudices that are in the world.

I recommend that you read my first posting on the Pepsi Ad ‘Dreams’ before you read any further.  It can be found here:

A Detailed Analysis of Michael Jackson Pepsi Ad -‘Dreams’
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I will present facts in a numbered form. I will not sight sources as that would take an eternity because there are not only countless online sources but there are also many physical book sources and I wanted this to be out there as soon as possible. If you do not believe this information, then I encourage you to do your own research as I did.

Facts about Jesuits (aka: The Society of Jesus)

1. The Jesuits is a society that was created by Ignatius De Loyola who became the first Jesuit General (black pope)

2. They are formerly known as ‘Los Alumbrados.’ (The illuminated ones = Illuminati)

3. They were created by Ignatius as foot solders for the pope

4. Their main purpose is to restore global control to the Pope as it was in the dark ages.

5. They have created wars and infiltrated governments in order to cause discord among nations.

Here are a couple of excerpts from the Jesuit Extreme Oath of Induction. This is an oath taken by high ranking Jesuits to be elevated in rank.

Superior: ….. My son, heretofore you have been taught to act the dissembler: among Roman Catholics to be a Roman Catholic, … Among the Reformers, to be a reformer; among the Huguenots, to be a Huguenot; among the Calvinists, to be a Calvinist; among other Protestants, generally to be a Protestant, and obtaining their confidence, to seek even to preach from their pulpits, and to denounce with all the vehemence in your nature our Holy Religion and the Pope; and even to descend so low as to become a Jew among Jews, that you might be enabled to gather together all information for the benefit of your Order as a faithful soldier of the Pope.    

  You have been taught to insidiously plant the seeds of jealousy and hatred between communities, provinces, states that were at peace, and incite them to deeds of blood, involving them in war with each other, and to create revolutions and civil wars in countries that were independent and prosperous, cultivating the arts and the sciences and enjoying the blessings of peace.

I’ll go ahead and add the link to this here because it is quite long. You may want to read the whole thing. There is some crazy stuff in it. >>

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6. Their plan is to recreate a new government sponsored inquisition.  
7. The final objective is to have a socialist New World Order under a universal religion that answers only to the pope based in the newly built Temple of Solomon. They want to take over Jerusalem but to do that, they must first get rid of the Orthodox Jews. They have been trying to do this for hundreds of years. That is why most of the world is against Israel. They just have to figure out the way to make more events that turn the whole world against Israel happen.

And also, do not forget about the fact that the pope called for a New World Order on the very day when we were all busy watching Michael’s Memorial. These people use anything to go undetected.


V for Vendetta

I would first like to remind everyone who reads this of Guy Fawkes Fifth of November Poem

Remember, Remember the Fifth of November
Remember, remember, the fifth of November
The gunpowder treason and plot,
I see no reason why gunpowder treason
Should ever be forgot

Guy Fawkes, twas his intent
To blow up the king and parliament.
Three schore barrels were laid below
To prove old England's overthrow.

By God's mercy he was catched
With a dark latern and a lighted match.
Holler boys, holler boys, let the bells ring,
Holler boys, holler boys, God save the King.

A penny loaf to feed the Pope.
A farthing o' cheese to choke him.
A pint of beer to rinse it down.
A faggot of sticks to burn him.
Burn him in a tub of tar.
Burn him like a blazing star.
Burn his body from his head.
Then we'll say ol' Pope is dead.
Hip hip hoorah!
Hip hip hoorah!

 This is pretty explanatory on its own. I do not think that I need to say anything more about this.

Does anyone remember the part in V for Vendetta concerning the high level priest who just happens to have a fetish for young girls? He was also involved in the founding of that death camp set up to eliminate vast portions of the population who rejected the fascist government who’s slogan was :

StrengthThrough Unity UnityThrough Faith

The Roman Catholic Church seemed to have quite a prominent position in this socialist government. Yet there seems to be such an effort to make people believe that this NOW will have secular roots.

You also need not forget the symbol of this government institution>>

This cross is popularly used throughout catholic art and as talismans. The following photo is slightly different though. It has another intersection at the bottom.

But what seems to be more telling is that this cross resembles the cross on the Cardinal College Coat of Arms: The Pope is elected from this particular college or cardinals.

Isn’t it interesting how the main colors of this organization just happen to be black and red?

Here is a photo of a cardinal in traditional uniform robes:

Notice what Lewis Prothero says about the ‘former United Sates of America.’>>


Also notice how he uses God to justify the disgusting acts done at those death camps. Hitler would justify himself in quite the same manner to justify the Vatican sponsored Holocaust. An attempt on the part of the Vatican, through the use of a lower ranking priest, has been made to deny that the Holocaust even happened just to see what the reactions of the public would be. Now that is just sick. They will try to pull this off through the use of Jesuit trained Jews. These Jews are instructed to go into society and make everyone believe that all Jews are greedy, money hungry and conniving. This is why many people are anti-Semitic and they believe that Jews are the root of many problems in society. Michael was the victim of these Jesuit Jew converts. As a result, Michael expressed anger and was vocal about Jews at one point. With this, they tried to label Michael as an anti-Semite so that people would have more reasons to turn against him.
Now I leave this section of this article with these few words from the Good Book:

John 16:2-4, "They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.  And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me."

Child molestation Charges against Catholic Priests.

Out of curiosity, I began to research child molestation charges that had been brought against Roman Catholic Priests here in the U.S.  I was most interested in finding out about significant dates associated with the majority of these claims of sexual abuse, and settlements made to appease victims. My jaw just about dropped to the ground when I came across this article:

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The 2004 John Jay Report commissioned by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) was based on surveys completed by the Roman Catholic dioceses in the United States. The surveys filtered provided information from diocesan files on each priest accused of sexual abuse and on each of the priest's victims to the research team, in a format which did not disclose the names of the accused priests or the dioceses where they worked. The dioceses were encouraged to issue reports of their own based on the surveys that they had completed.

The team reported that 10,667 people in the US had made allegations of child sexual abuse between 1950 and 2002 against 4,392 priests (about 4% of all 109,694 priests who served during the time period covered by the study). One-third of the accusations were made in the years 2002 and 2003, and another third between 1993 and 2001. "Thus, prior to 1993, only one-third of cases were known to church officials," says the report.[12]

DID you catch that?!>>>>  

One-third of the accusations were made in the years 2002 and 2003, and another third between 1993 and 2001!

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Here is another article with much more extensive information about Catholic Priest Child sex abuse cases in the United States. As you read through the article pay very close attention to the dates.

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The following is a link to a news article on a settlement that was made regarding Catholic Priest Sexual abuse cases. The publish date of this article happens to be very close to the date in which Michael’s verdict was announced in 2005.
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It seems like they tried to take care of the bulk of these cases before Michael Jackson’s 2005 inquisition like trial was over. There are actually more articles but I don’t want to drag this on more than I have to.

This shocked me to the core and I could not believe it. It all started to make more sense to me.

Jesus Juice

The whole ‘Jesus Juice’ thing came to my mind as well. This seems to be an attempt to say that followers of Jesus (which happen to be some Protestants) are sick demented psychos. Even before Michael got accused, he told Opra that he felt that it was important to be Christ like or ‘like Jesus.’ He maintained this stance even during the second trial while giving an interview on 60 Minuets as shown in the video above. He never fails to give God the credit for his gifts.

The same has happened with Islam. Now many associate Muslims with terrorism thanks to the Jesuit controlled Government sponsored attacks of 911. And Jesuit sponsored Protestantism was responsible in part for that widespread idea about Muslims here in the U.S but also for the stigma that associates Protestants with having prejudice views.

They even go so far as to make it seem that Protestants are delusional people who do crazy things to assert their faith. An example of this is Jim Jones. And another example is the rise of Polygamists.

Jim Jones was a Jesuit trained sicko who posed as a pastor of an ‘Assemblies of God’ Church. He was instructed to brainwash and then kill his entire congregation including himself. This caused new and harsher laws to be passed that would make it more difficult for protestants and other religions to gather in secluded non-patrolled areas.

Most Roman Catholics and Priests are innocent and well meaning. They are not even aware of these things.

There are also instances when Jesuit youth action groups infiltrate a ‘heretical’ church and try to frame or seduce a pastor to commit questionable acts.

There are many others but I’ll leave it at that.

Events such as these have put a negative light not only on those who profess Jesus Christ as their personal lord and savior but also those religions  who are not affiliated with the Roman Catholic System.

The pattern is as follows:

1. Target someone who is a force to be reckoned with and who is also a believer in Christ

2. Pay needy people to infiltrate their life and become a part of it,
3. Instruct said people (and compensate further if necessary) to create situations and make target vulnerable

4. Further instruct people to strike and go public with false accusations

5. Discredit the target and ruin their reputation while controlling media coverage

6. Insure that the target be deemed guilty by the court of public opinion.  

7. If that does not keep them down, kill them.

This is usually the fate of many prominent individuals who have spoken against the Roman Catholic Church System.

In 1993, it was not a guarantee that Michael would settle out of court. It could have gone either way. Michael could have chosen to fight it in the court. But due to pressures of his career and situation, he was forced to settle.

Evan Chandler Quoted on tape:

The only way that someone would even dare to falsely accuse (with a severe lack of evidence)an individual like Michael Jackson, who has lots of money, influence and the ability to hire extremely good attorneys, would be if the accusers had something to gain regardless of the outcome. They had to have been paid a great sum of money in order for them to ‘go through’ with the entire process.

Now, my question is : Who in the hell could have paid them off?

What could have been the motive? This individual or organization must have a lot of
money at their disposal. And they must also have some really strong intentions to do such a thing.

Why were there no other accusers aside from the Chandlers and Arvizos during both 1993 and 2005? It’s statistically known that a child abuser has the tendency to have many victims at a given time. This was and is the case with some Catholic priests and their fetishes for sexually abusing children.

Who would stand to gain from such accusations aside from the accusers?  

Was a really big distraction needed to take attention away from something major?

You be the judge of that.

Personal note: Evan Chandler committed suicide? I’m not sure how I feel about that. Murder maybe? Perhaps he was overwhelmed with such guilt that he planned to tell the whole world the truth about what happened in 1993? NOT!  He was suffering from a grave illness they say? I would not be so sure about that either. He seemed to be quite a selfish individual who cared for no one (not even his own son) but himself. So I doubt that this vermin would dare to take his own life. Or did the ‘System’ want to play it safe by getting rid of him before he would come clean? Was he killed? I really can’t say. You decide.

Now I would like to show you some interesting things that I have found.

There was a video that I found which had a really good interpretation of the panther dance. BUT it was long and had information at the beginning pertaining to September 11th, Michael being murdered by the illuminati and the like which is fine. People can believe what they want. I just wanted to cut straight to the chase.  So I will post a video solely of the panther dance and provide an interpretation below the video. It will be a bit different and much longer from the original interpretation because I will use my own words and add what I have picked up.

This whole video is symbolic of Michael’s awakening. It marks a time in is life where he wants the world to know that he is awake and has been set free.


0:17 Demons are watching Michael and he is aware of it. Notice how the light shines on him as if he is being scrutinized by ‘the powers that be’ (Illumination upon him >> Illuminati) He shows no fear and proceeds with his task.

0:31 A demonic sound is heard as if to imply that the demons are becoming angry. He hesitates as he puts his arm down but still manages to maintain his cool.

0:35 As an evil presence descends upon the area, a cat is startled because it senses the malevolent spirits.

0:42 Michael prepares himself by un tucking his outer shirt. He knows that this will alleviate resistance in the storm that is to come. It can symbolize his disregard for any fear that he might have that may be a hindrance.

0:45 The storm comes and the demonic presence increases. The strong wind carries newspapers and all manner of physical media towards him.

0:58 The storm is over. And he seems to have passed that trial.

1:02 Michael strikes a pose. Look carefully at his feet. In the next frame, a large newspaper appears and seems to be attached to his feet. He may have known what was coming and he also may have know that it would ‘stick’ to him for a long time, if not his whole life.

1:04 He continues to dance with the news paper at his feet showing his disregard towards it.

1:33 He then roars with confidence to show his defiance.

1:34 He continues his sequence of cultic gestures that are understood by few and that only could be associated with ‘the powers that be.’ (I will not even go there as it will take a whole new post to do that)  

1:40 Michael rounds off his cultic sequence with a good ‘ole ‘sign of the cross’ and proceeds to himself… Maybe it’s a way of teasing and saying ‘You had this but you will not have it anymore.’ It could also be seen as a symbolic way to “Exorcise the Demons.” It has been said that when an individual is being prayed over to be delivered from a spirit of lust, the individual starts to touch themselves perversely and engage in all manner of perverted self induced gratification.  

He actually does incomplete signs of the cross throughout the panther dance but this is the only time he completes it.

1:56 Michael smashes a beer bottle. This could represent the ‘great whore’s ‘wine of fornication’ that has made the whole world symbolically ‘drunk’ with ‘her adulteries’ that is talked about in Revelations 17.

1:57 Michael removes his hat as a gentlemen would when getting down to business.

1:59 He begins his bashing of the car windows. The first is the phrase ‘Hitler Rules,’ the second is a  swastika, the third is ‘NI66ERS 6O HOME’ and the fourth is ‘NO MORE WET BACKS.’

Swastika and ‘Hitler Rules’ phrase

The Nazi Party (along with communism) is one of the many offspring of the Roman Catholic System. Bother were designed to control.   Hitler was a known Roman Catholic. It was the Roman Catholic vote that got him in office. The pope actually blessed Hitler and his army before they set out to conquer the world and carry out the Holocaust. Here is a link with photos to prove this:
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666 is imbedded in the phrase. 666 is the mark of the beast. Here is a link about its significance and connections:
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I really can’t say much about this. The ‘B’ seems to be missing or smudged out. I do not know the reason why. If I get info, I will edit this post.

Michael again fondles himself as way to symbolize the conclusion of his deliverance from the demon of lust. What I find interesting is how he yells and it sounds like he’s yelling ‘HOE!!’ (as in ‘whore’) This may not mean anything but who knows, maybe it does in this case. He also uses it in other works.

2:34 He rips out the steering wheel and throws it to a building window that reads ‘KKK Rules.’


The KKK was created by Albert Pike who was a 33rd Degree Mason. The Jesuits control Freemasonry. One of the purposes was to make it seem like all Protestants are racists and anti-semites. Sound familiar? Michael was accused of the same thing. It’s also quite convenient that the KKK discriminates against Roman Catholics. This is an effort to hide Jesuit affiliation with the group.

Here is a link with more information about how the Jesuits control freemasonry. (this is a long read but it is VERY interesting.:

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'K' just happens to be the 11th letter in the alphabet 11X3 = 33 the highest level in certain freemasonry organizations. Jesuit cassocks(robes) also have 33 buttons.

2:44 He zips his pants up. It appears that he is not only done with his business but he is also free from the demon of lust.

2:47 Time to take out the trash and be done with it.

2:50 Michael’s purification/cleansing process begins bringing about 3 cleansing rebirths. (To be born again) John 3:1-21

3:01 Purification of his Mind

3:05 Purification of his Soul

3:07 Purification of his Body

3:10 Purification is complete

3:11 This calls for a victory dance and a self-congratulations. Good Job Michael! =3

3:18 After a furious spin, Michael falls hard on his knees and hands as he cries out. It’s as if he’s surrendering himself to God.  

Notice how he no longer yells ‘HOE.’ He just simply yells.

3:23 The King rips his shirt as a symbol of humbling himself before the Lord. >>
The deliberate tearing of clothing was known through all of Bible History, in both the Old and New Testaments. When done to one's self, it was usually a physical expression of grief or righteous indignation, in effect an outward equivalent of the modern-day vernacular expression "it tears me up." The custom was also done as a symbolic removal of authority i.e. the tearing of a king's royal robe.

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3:30 Michael motions his arm towards the ‘Royal Arms Hotel’ Sign. It seems like he is throwing muddy water towards it and it explodes. This not only symbolizes Michael’s total and complete surrender of his royal title as King (to God) but it may also symbolize his disassociation with the ‘HOE.’ (‘Great Whore.’ From Revelation 17) Hotels are common places for men to meet with prostitutes.

3:36 As a result, Michael is showered with ambers and ashes.  This is another symbol of repenting or humbling oneself before God. (Sackcloth and ashes)   Jonah 3:3-8

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3:50 The sign falls to the ground and Michael looks at it with a certain amount of dismay.

3:57 The angry demon presence leaves from his side forever.

3:59 Michael notices this and looks around.

4:01 Michael morphs back into a black panther. He is now finally in control.


The ‘Scream’ music video is quite interesting as well. This song talks about the ‘System’ and ‘confusion.’ Yes many think that it has to do with the government and that may be so but there were many things that I noticed that seem to be encoded messages and symbolism.

Here is a list of things that I noticed with notes along with the exact times that they show up in the video and here’s the ‘Scream’ music video:

0:40 Michael does an Italian gesture that basically means ‘I don’t give a damn!’

The Vatican is in Rome and Rome is in Italy. And yes I know that the official language of the Vatican is Latin. That also happens to be the language of the anti-christ.  

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0:56 Michael does what seems like the sign of the cross after he sings the following words:

Tired of injustice
Tired of the schemes
Kind of disgusted

But to play it off, he completes the sign by making it seem like he wants to playfully hit Janet in the arm.

1:21 Janet Sings

You’re selling out souls
But I care about mine

Rev 18:11 .. And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more...  Rev 18:13… Cargos of….. slaves, and souls of men.

1:29 Michael does the same Italian gesture after Janet sings:

'And I wont give up the fight.’

1:39 Janet sings:

You try to cope with every lie they scrutinize

Upon thinking about this verse, I began to reason… Janet says ‘You.’ So she is addressing herself to the ‘system.’ She then says ‘they’ as the ‘party’ that scrutinizes ‘every lie’. Who is the one that scrutinizes? Well obviously the media is the master of scrutinizing everything. So the media can be eliminated from the possible list of ‘Systems’ that this song is directed towards. Michael does however refer to ‘The whole System.’ My guess is that he is referring to the system that controls all ‘Systems.’

The Bible clearly talks about such a system and it also indicates that this system is indeed religious.

Rev 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

Where would one hear voices of a bridegroom and bride? Where do people traditionally get married? The answer would be a church.

And what does she mean when she says ‘cope?’

Could it be that she is making a reference to how Michael’s name is being smeared with false child sex abuse accusations to fend off true child sex abuse accusations against Catholic Priests that had been scrutinized by the media? It was such a huge scandal for the ‘Holy Mother Church’ at the time but after Michael was pinned with the very same accusations, it’s as if the public forgot about the thousands of sexual abuse cases filed against Catholic priests. Some may argue that she is talking about government cover-ups. And that’s possible. But the latter is definitely something to think about.

2:02 Janet, using a remote device, changes the figure in the gallery and a statue of Athena appears. Athena is associated with Diana, and other pagan goddesses as well as her ‘Christianized’ alter ego Mary >>>

  Thus the Christian church functioned for at least 150 years without idolizing the name of Mary. The legends about her begin to appear after that, although for several centuries the church was far from making a cult of it. But after Constantine's decree making Christianity the preferred religion, the Graeco-Roman pagan religions with their male gods and female goddesses exerted an increasingly stronger influence upon the church. Thousands of the people who then entered the church brought with them the superstitions and devotions which they had long given to Isis, Athena, Diana, Artemis, Aphrodite, and other goddesses, which were then conveniently transferred to Mary. Statues were dedicated to her, as there had been statues dedicated to Isis, Diana, and others, and before them the people kneeled and prayed as they had been accustomed to do before the statues of the heathen goddesses.

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Also notice the prominence of the moon in the entire video. Diana is associated with the moon and is also associated with the Virgin Mary. Some may say ‘Well, they are in space after all.’ But there are an infinite amount of objects in space. Why focus only on the moon? But I must say that Michael is a genius and he did everything with intentions.

2:31 This is the first appearance of Michael in meditation and notice how he is perfectly situated and the set is perfectly designed to make it appear that there is a glowing halo around his head just like Catholic paintings and statues illustrate to depict divinity. This is also common for the Virgin Mary’s pagan identity Diana:

Another thing to take note of is that even from the very beginning, both Michael and
Janet appear in some kind of closed in compartment that also makes it seem like they have a glowing halo around their heads but there are rays radiating around the halos.

This actually reminds me of those reliefs in walls that occasionally have saints or the Virgin Mary within them.

2:42 Both Michael and Janet sing together: ‘Oh Father please have mercy!’ It’s obvious that they are referring to God Almighty. Many believe that they are referring to Joseph but he never allowed any of his children to call him ‘father.’

And then Michael can be seen with his arms outstretched while he looks up.  

3:03 Michel assumes the pose that resembles a moon god or goddess. (ie: Diana being associated with the Virgin Mary) He also has his hands in an interesting gesture. That’s  a very popular pose for the Virgin Mary.

3:08 A man appears on a screen behind Michael and what he is wearing looks surprisingly like a cassock: The apparel that a Jesuit priest wears. The only difference is that the little white under collar that is supposed to go under the black collar is missing.

Interesting note: Did you know that the cassock has 33 buttons? They say that in symbolizes Jesus’ 33 years of life on earth. But isn’t 33 the number of a highest ranking mason in some Masonic organizations?

3:10 Janet sings the following:

"Oh my God, can't believe what I saw
As I turned on the TV this evening
I was disgusted by all the injustice
All the injustice"

And then Michael Also says ” All the injustice”

They are definitely talking about what they have just seen on the TV. The ‘news man’ is quoted saying the following:

"A man has been brutally beaten to death by
Police after being wrongly identified as a
Robbery suspect. The man was
An 18 year old black male..."

This establishes the idea that the man is a ‘news man.’ But what a choice for apparel this is. Why not just wear a standard suit and tie?

3:27 Both Michael and Janet make a gesture that is symbolic of prayer.

3:34 Again, the sign of the cross is made but this time by both Michael and Janet.

Anime featured in 'Scream'

There are also several instances in which scenes of anime (Japanese cartoons) appear on the large screen in the space ship. I decided to find out what the title(s) of the anime featured are.

I didn’t think anything of the anime at first and it was not my plan to address it at all.
It turned out that there are 2 different anime featured. One being Akira and the other being Babel II. I then decided to find out about both of these anime.

Akira is set in a futuristic and post World War III city Neo-Tokyo which is rampant with chaos.

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Babel II makes so many references to the tower of Babel and Babylon. The ‘Great Whore’ just happens to be of ‘Babylon.’ I think it’s just too weird and cool at the same time how the main character of this anime just happens to have a black panther as a partner and side-kick. It reminds me of the panther dance.

Black Panthers

Panthers are also associated with the goddess Diana.

'Panther' is a general name for big cats, normally used for the ones that can have black fur - leopard and jaguar, and also the puma. With black fur they become the 'black panther', and gain a hunting advantage in forests and at night. 'Panther' itself comes from 'pan' meaning 'all' and 'therao' meaning 'to hunt'. Because the panther swims, climbs trees and hunts on foot, it is an All-hunter, like its goddess. (Diana)

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I thought that was too much of a coincidence. His panther dance is quite symbolic in his insubordination and disassociation of and from his former master.
Here are excerpts from the bio of one of the main characters of Babel II by the name of Yomi:


Yomi is a vicious monarch who conspires to rule over the world…He owns secret bases in many parts of the world, and is accompanied by miscellaneous subordinates, such as scientists, engineers, psychics, and cyborg agents. Because Yomi sends each country remodeled men as VIPs in the government, he can manipulate many nations at will…
I don’t know but… it seems like nearly everything points to one truth.

Allow me to show you why I feel this is significant.

Though it has been denied, the pope is actually the monarch of the Vatican.  The goal of the Vatican is to rule over the world. The Vatican rules over all secret societies that have a global impact. These societies consist of scientists, engineers, psychics, and ‘agents’ that  do its bidding.  The Vatican’s foot soldiers, the Jesuits, are almost like robots who only take orders. They are not allowed to have a will of their own. (refer to the Jesuit Extreme Oath of Induction ) They infiltrate governments and make it possible for the pope to control them and manipulate them to do his bidding..

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There are probably more things in this video but I think I may have overdone it with too much info so I will stop here.

In closing this post, I think that I have good reason to believe that Michael Jackson was accused both times to divert media scrutiny from the Catholic priest child molestation cases and he knew it.

I feel that this is the conspiracy that he was mainly referring to. And this explains why he did not want to comment on it.

Children are so important to Michael because they are our future. It is possible that Michael saw what was taking place and was trying to expose the injustice being done to not only the thousands of children here in the US but of the world by a large number of Priests. The diocese of the accused priests had tried to cover this truth up for nearly 50 years or even more.

This also explains the purpose of these accusations and why they were thrown on him during such ideal times.

He was doing the unthinkable. He was engaging in ‘heretical’ acts of ‘blasphemy!’ He had to be dealt with. ‘DEATH TO THE HERETIC!’

If given the choice, Michael would have probably preferred death over being associated with such atrocious and disgusting allegations. I not saying that I know he would. It’s just a mere speculation.

It was the perfect scapegoat. Michael loved children and did so much to help them. Since he adored playing with children, accusations like these would be quite believable to those who believe everything that the media tells them. Sadly, that accounts for most of the world.  

Fell free to disagree but I think the evidence is there for all to see. It’s up to you to not only see it but accept it. But in the end, the choice is ultimately yours to make.
I have already made mine and no one in this world is going to change it.

And Ill say this again>>>>

Please understand:

This has NOTHING to do with being Catholic. Everyone has their right to freedom of faith. But there is one thing people must understand.

Man made doctrines and institutions manipulate us. They use our faith as a yolk on our necks to control us by use of guilt.

“Do you think he’s not up there? Do you think he’s not watching this country?” - Lewis Prothero - V for Vendetta

Michael Jackson News / Pepsi 'DREAMS' - A Detailed Analysis
« on: June 20, 2010, 08:38:15 PM »
To Souza and Mo:
I’m really sorry if this is in the wrong place. As this is not hoax related, I was not sure where to post it. I just wanted it to be in a place that people would be able to see it.

Pepsi ‘Dreams’ A detailed Analysis

This is going to be very long so I just thought that I should warn people first. I will update this as much as needed or when I have more findings.

Before I begin this, I would like everyone to know that I was not a Michael Jackson fan prior to June 25th, 2009. So it would be fair to say that I have no preconceived notions about Michael Jackson as an individual, as an entertainer and as a human being. Because of this, I am able to refrain from dehumanizing him and having expectations of him as all of the personas that I just mentioned in the sentence before this one.

All I can say is that on that day, my world was turned upside down and I have not been the same again. Whatever happed that day changed my life. It has jolted me into a quest for truth not only in MJ’s case but also in the events and happenings in the world.

This is not meant to offend anyone and finding the truth may not always be favorable to most because in doing so, sometimes we discover that what we had always believed in is a lie. I speak from experience on this one. Trust me… So all I ask is for understanding in this.

It may not be necessary to say the following because I know that most people on here are mature enough to not jump the gun and blindly flame or troll the forums but I will say it anyway.

I will not entertain arguments over this so do not even try to convince me otherwise where it concerns this particular subject.

SO…If you are going to say something hateful and insulting, I will ignore you but send you L.O.V.E. I have nothing to prove.

With that said, I would also like to say that I do not affiliate myself with any religion. My parents were catholic and I was an atheist at one time. I became obsessed with research on history and religion. But that’s a part of my life that I would rather not get into because I’m ashamed of it. With a new found faith, I just read the Bible and I believe that it is the final authority where it concerns my faith.
Now on with the adventure…

A Detailed Analysis of Michael Jackson Pepsi Ad -‘Dreams’

Many have expressed confusion as to what this particular ad means. I was confused when I had seen it for the first time recently. I thought…’Hmmm. Well that’s weird and interesting…but for some strange reason, I really like it.’ I left it at that and just moved on.

I recently purchased an official promotional DVD from overseas that contains all of the Pepsi commercials from 1984 – 1992 and press conferences in high quality. I watched it all the way through and as soon as the ‘Dreams’ commercial was about to come on, I sat right in front of the TV. This commercial had always intrigued me and I was simply fascinated by it because it was confusing to me and I could not understand it.

So there I was sitting in front of the TV waiting to take it all in. And then I saw something interesting. The woman that Michael is chasing ends up sitting upon a throne in what seems like ‘royal religious’ regalia. But that’s not the most interesting part. What really struck me was the staff that she was holding in her left hand. It is topped with a golden hand that is in the form of what we all have adopted as the ‘peace’ sign.

This may sound insignificant to most but it was one of the most explosive finds in my book. I’ll be sure to explain it and its symbolic connotation with a religion we are all probably familiar with.

Through my research of Michael’s life, I have come to believe that Michael has been a victim of a great and malevolent conspiracy.  I know that this is not news to most of you but as you read on, you may have a different view of who is really behind it all.

I will be sure to include a link to another post that I have made within and at the very end of this article that concerns these connections with the Jesuits.  But please go out there and do your research too. The world around you will make more sense if you do. It did for me.  I feel that this is very important. The mission here is to find the TRUTH no matter what the cost. Are you willing to risk it all?

The Jesuits control everything from the Illuminati all the way down to the KKK. One needs only to ask who the Jesuits work for.

The Bible speaks of a one world government and religion. This has also been pointed out by TS.

I think it would be best for me to include the video of the Pepsi commercial ‘Dreams’ before I delve into the main course. Please watch this with a critical eye and try to look really deep into what Michael is trying to tell us.

I watched this ad a couple of times and then on the third run through, it hit me like lightning. I put the DVD on pause and I ran to my room to get my Bible.

At first I felt that my impulse was that of a crazy nut. But as I flipped through the bible, I started to understand everything. I immediately turned to the book of Revelation and I rushed to find Chapter 17.

This ad may very well be a metaphorical representation of Revelation 17. The woman seems to represent the ‘Great Whore of Babylon.’ This is the only way that it would make any sense at all. Michael is an avid reader of the Bible and it is no surprise that Michael would strategically place references to the Bible in his many works.

I know that Michael disassociated himself from the Jehovah’s Witnesses but I agree with TS in that it’s not hard to believe that he would carry some of the beliefs with him.

Here is an excerpt of what the Jehovah’s Witnesses believe about ‘The Whore of Babylon.’:

Jehovah's Witnesses believe that the Whore of Babylon symbolizes the world empire of false religion including, but not limited to, Christendom, a term they use to refer to merely professed "Christianity" as opposed to "true Christianity". Among John’s visions recorded in the book of Revelation appear pronouncements of judgment against “Babylon the Great,” as well as a description of her and of her downfall…………. They believe the religious identity of Babylon the Great is further confirmed by the statements in Revelation that she misleads all the nations by means of her “spiritistic practice.” (Revelation 18:23) and that she is “a dwelling place of demons.” (Revelation 18:2; Deuteronomy 18:10-12) The harlot is also described as persecuting “prophets” and “holy ones" and murdering “the witnesses of Jesus.” (Revelation 17:6; 18:24)

{Heh… Inquisition anyone?}

Here is the link from which the portion above was taken (Read all of it if you can. It’s quite interesting):
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Below, I have posted both Revelation 17 and 18 and I have highlighted portions that pertain to the ad.

Revelation 17 (King James Version)

Revelation 17

 1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:

 2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

 3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

 4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:


6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

 7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

 8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

 9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

 10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

 11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

 12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

 13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

 14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

 15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

 16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked,
and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

 17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

 18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

Revelation 18

 1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.

 2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

 3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

 4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

 5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

 6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

 7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

 8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
 9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,
10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.
11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:
12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,
13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.
14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.
15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,
16 And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!
17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,
18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!
19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.

20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.

 21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

 22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;
23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Here is a link to Revelations 17 (King James Version):
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Below are screen shots from the ad as well as corresponding Biblical verses. Please note that the screen caps will not be in the same order as the ad. I will follow the sequence of the chapter.  I think that Michael knew that it would have been too obvious to put it in sequential order. The verses are encoded in a different order but they get the message across. So I recommend that you have an understanding of both chapters. The ad mostly pertains to Chapter 17 but there are references to Chapter 18 as well. I will also include my own notes and observations below the scripture verses.

Rev 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me,

To me, this seems to signify that both of these characters are symbolic of one entity. In this case, one of seven angels. (the 7 on the hat may symbolize the 7 ‘vials’ and enforce the idea that they are both one of the 7 angels.) Notice on the second cap how the characters in union seem to make the form of the number 7.  

Rev 17:1 Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:

This one is quite obvious and I really have nothing to say about this particular still. But what I will say is that this was taken from 2 different stills. I wanted to make sure that the man was visible. When the woman in revealed in light, all you can see is the man’s outstretched arm.

Rev 17:2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication,

We all know that Michael is the ‘King of Pop.’ So it seems like he is posing symbolically as ‘the kings of the earth’ here. I think it’s quite amusing how he does the sign of the cross before her and he then approaches her. (notice the scene before the first cap) He is intimately close to her and he is also seen dancing with her.

Rev 17:2…and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

The ‘inhabitants of the earth’ can also be referred to as a generation. However, this is the Pepsi slogan but yet it fits so well with all of this. Pepsi is symbolic of the ‘wine of her fornication.’ This particular scene with the woman and the Pepsi appears two times.

Rev 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness:

The confusion Michael expresses in this scene while trying to find the woman reminds me of a ‘wilderness’ of some kind.  

Rev 17:3 … and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

Well obviously the throne is gold but it most certainly looks like a beast with many heads and several horns. (tusks)

Rev 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls,

This one is a given to me. The woman really is wearing these very colors. I tried my best to get a better screen cap but was unsuccessful. The DVD that I own has it in perfect quality and the colors are there so I’m not making this up.

Rev 17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

This particular shot with the woman and the Pepsi comes out twice. It’s also interesting to note that Revelation 17 mentions two forms of the word ‘drunk’ as well. Michael’s expression is most certainly that of wonder.

Rev 17:7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

The hat represents mystery and the woman is in the hat. It has also been established that this character is representative of the angel as is the other character. Also notice the ‘all seeing eye, in the background. It shows up quite often when the woman is in sight. It gives me the impression that the woman and the organization for which the ‘all seeing eye’ represents are somehow related if not one and the same.

Rev 17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

This screen cap reminds me of the vast sea and sky. The woman looks like she is sitting on water.

Rev 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked,

The golden throne actually manifests into many beasts with horns or tusks. The animals seem to envelope the woman as if they devoured her. All that is left of her is the crown which happens to be half buried in the sand as if it were abandoned and deserted.

Rev 17:18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

The first cap seems to embody ‘Babylon.’ All manner of related symbols can be seen. It is a bit different from the Dangerous album cover but ithas all of the important elements need for this interpretation. In the second cap, the woman is seen on the wall and at one point the decorated Pepsi vehicle is positioned in such a way that the lighted globe/world appears to be in her hands.

Rev 18:2 Babylon the great is fallen…

What we see here is the desolate foundation of the throne where the woman was seated. Aside from the crown, we also see the woman’s ‘wine’ in the sand.

Rev18:20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.

Here Michael and the children are dancing and laughing as they celebrate joyfully over the ruins of the woman.

The connotation of this final cap is so meaningful and it represents Michael’s love for the children of not only his country but of the world.

Why would the children be so happy over the destruction of ‘The Whore of Babylon?’ What has she done to these precious children that would invoke such a celebration? If you are just too curious for a possible answer to that question, I will direct you to another post that I have made:

Was MJ accused to divert media attention from Molestation Charges on Catholic Priests in the U.S.?

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Now I would like to explain the significance of the golden scepter that the woman has in her left hand.

Here is a screen cap of the woman holding the scepter from The Making of ‘Dreams’:

It is my understanding that this woman is a personification of this particular figure on Michael’s ‘Dangerous’ album.

I was trying really hard to see what the woman in the ad is holding but I can’t seem to make it out. It’s either cut off at the top or the perspective makes it difficult to make out. The dog is holding the same scepter in the left hand as the woman in the ad.

Now here are various sightings of this particular hand gesture and I will also explain what it means in this case. Here are some photos:

Now after looking at all of these photos, I’m sure that you will agree that they have one thing in common.

That would be this >>>  

This is familiar isn’t it? The only difference between the scepter that the woman has in the ad and these photos is that the hand gesture is made with the opposite hand.


This sign has such a great significance in Roman Catholicism and it is used throughout Catholic art and liturgy.  The two extended fingers represent apostolic succession and temporal power

Apostolic Succession: The claim that the pope is not only the successor of St. Peter (they believe that Peter (Petros) was the first pope despite the fact that his name clearly means ‘pebble’ not ‘rock’ The only one ever described in the Bible as the ‘Rock’ upon which the church shall be built was Jesus) but is also the visible head of the church on earth, Jesus Christ. (That sounds like Anti-Christ material to me)

Mark 13:5-6 And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you: For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

Mark 13:21-22 And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not: For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.

Temporal power: The authority which the Vatican claims that the Pope has over the kings of the earth.

What this basically means is that according to Roman Catholic doctrine, peace can only come if temporal power and apostolic Succession are fully accepted universally.   Now it probably makes sense why people use this sign so loosely to express their desire for peace. We know it to be a symbol for peace but it’s definitely not the ‘peace’ that we want.

And also, do not forget about the fact that the pope called for a New World Order on the very day when we were all busy watching Michael’s Memorial. These people use anything to go undetected.


Here is a more in depth look at temporal power and apostolic succession:

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Here are more photos and comparison shots:

The first photo is of an illustration of the ‘Great Whore of Babylon’ and the second & third ones are of the woman from the ad. The last one is another photo of the ‘Great Whore.’

This is a link that has more info on prophecy and the like. It’s a very interesting read. An ‘Under Construction’ window will pop up. Just click the’ x’ in the corner and you will still be able to view the site. It will pop up every time you navigate to another page.

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The first photo is of a Catholic idol of one of the many facets of the Virgin Mary. I find this to be a rather creepy resemblance.

I have to say that the idol is wearing an interesting combination of colors. (Scarlet and Purple)

Here we have another illustration of the ‘Great Whore’ wearing her true colors.

Michael’s Dangerous album cover seems to place importance on both of these symbolic colors.

Isn’t it also strange how the colors are presented on figures which are adorned in both royal and religious symbolism?

It’s funny how the ceremonial colors of the Roman Catholic Church just happen to be Scarlet and purple.

I also find it interesting that the carpet that runs down the steps to the throne seems to have stars while the top of the throne has what looks like a crescent moon. It’s as if she is the opposite of the woman referred to in Revelation 12.

Revelation 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

And no I do not think that Michael is referring to the real Mary, who is the carnal mother of Jesus but rather the fake counterfeit Mary who has been turned into a goddess with a crescent moon at her feet and stars about her head.  

Who Is It

It is also important that you see the actual music video for ‘Who Is It.’ It's fascinating that the source of Michael’s pain is a high class prostitute of luxury who has deceived him.  Note that the ‘Great Whore’ is also referred to as the ‘Prostitute’ in other versions of the Bible.

Here’s the video:

My question was… Why in the heck was it banned in the US? I found nothing wrong with it. Some say it was a copyright issue or that Michael did not like the finished product but I don’t really buy that for some reason. I think it’s deeper than that. Maybe I’m wrong.

The song intro reminds me of religious hymns and the video intro reminds me of the architecture of Rome. Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t the Vatican in Rome?

The woman takes on several aliases. Alex, Diana, Celeste and finally Eve

Notice how he includes the name Diana. It’s quite reminiscent of his past work known as ‘Dirty Diana.’

Diana:  The goddess Diana was given a facelift when Rome was ‘Christianized’ because they were unable to get rid of the goddess Diana in the minds of the people.  So they had to strategically incorporate her into the churches doctrine and belief system. She was then put under the guise ‘Mary, the mother of Jesus. (the Queen of Heaven) I have included another link with information. As with the first one, this one has music playing in the background and there is some ritualistic stuff in it. I just thought I’d give you a fair warning.

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Alex, Diana, Celeste and Eve

The Goddess Diana: The name Diana also means "heavenly" or "divine." This ties into one of her other aliases known as Celeste which means celestial or again, ‘heavenly’. Diana was also known as the goddess of the hunt, being associated with wild animals and woodland, and also of the moon in Roman mythology.  It’s all too strange how even the name Eve ties into Diana. Eve : "life, animal" or Mystically the mother of all living. Now the first alias the woman uses is Alex which is short for Alexandra or Alexandria. This name is essentially defined as ‘Defender of mankind.’ Mary/Diana is also considered the protectress of humanity. So all of these aliases are definitely connected in one way or another.
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Here is yet another interesting comparison. The second photo is of a replica statue of Diana at Ephesus.

This concludes my analysis of ‘Dreams’ and the connotations from the actual music video of ‘Who Is It.’ I’m sure that there is much more symbolism but I just wanted to get the more obvious ones that require the least amount of explaining.

Please understand:

This has NOTHING to do with being Catholic. Everyone has their right to freedom of faith. But there is one thing people must understand.

Man made doctrines and institutions manipulate us. They use our faith as a yolk on our necks to control us by use of guilt.

“Do you think he’s not up there? Do you think he’s not watching this country?” - Lewis Prothero – V for Vendetta

Again if you have not read this, here is a link to another post that I made which is related to this subject.


Was MJ accused to divert attention from Molestation Charges on Catholic Priests in the U.S.?  

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