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TIAI ~ 2011 / Re: TIAI September 27
« on: September 28, 2011, 03:28:28 AM »
Hey guys! I’m still here and I still believe. I’m not going anywhere. But I don’t really get on here like before because the forum is soooooo damn slow! I mean no insult to Souza or Mo. I just wish that it was as fast as it was when we had the old version. I like the new look and everything else that has been done but it takes forever for pages to load. I would say that it’s my computer but I don’t have this problem anywhere else that I go on the internet. *sigh*

Well…Anyway…

Sorry if this has been mentioned before somewhere else and I’m also sorry if this is the wrong place.

BUT….

Did anyone else notice the V for Vendetta presence on Showbiz Tonight in the interview portion that was done on the outside of the courtroom with two individuals from opposing sides? One was a Michael Jackson fan and one was a supporter of Conrad Murray>> (I believe that this was the same man that Pearl Jr. interviewed in one of her videos).

There was a BIG poster in the background that was professionally done. This poster featured half of the V mask and half of Michael’s face. They were placed together side by side to reveal a complete face - one side being Michael’s face and the other side being Vs face. The poster was black and the face was in color. The bottom of the poster featured red font that stated ‘This Is It’. There were words at the top but I couldn’t make them out. I DVRed it so I’ll go back and see if I can figure out what the top of the poster says.

And then there was a V Mask resting right below this big poster. 

Before the reporter started talking to them, the camera panned around to give the viewer an idea as to how many people were outside the courtroom. After that, the camera man zoomed in toward where the individuals that were going to be interviewed were. (Yes they were next to each other) And as he did this, it seemed like the camera man made sure that we would see the poster and the mask as the reporter began to interview them.  She spoke with the Michael Jackson fan first.

All through the interview with the MJ fan, the mask was in view at the bottom corner of the screen.

This just had to be deliberate in my opinion. There were plenty of fans and even places that could have been chosen. Why film in an area where such things that relate to the hoax happen to be in the background?

I’ll try to find video and/or photos of this if I can. If I find anything, I’ll be sure to add it to this post.

As for the topic of this redirect…I personally believe that this is both a hoax and sting court. Most of what I have observed in the coverage of the trial has already been addressed so I don’t want to be repetitive. XD 

I just thought the  ‘V’ clue-drop was too ironic and amusing to ignore. LOL

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TIAI ~ 2011 / Re: TIAI July 7
« on: July 27, 2011, 02:35:18 PM »
TS: “In the 6-25-2011 thread, some have questioned my terminology using the word “Illuminatti”; but as I have stated before, I’m using the term loosely.  There is no need to quibble over the exact title of the people and organizations involved in the “conspiracy” against MJ (and the 9-11 conspiracy, etc); the concepts are what we are dealing with here, and the concepts have to do with secret societies and organized underground crime (especially ones working to promote the New World Order agenda, although some lower-level elements may not be aware of the NWO agenda at higher levels).”

I agree completely with this statement.

But as you, and everyone who keeps up with your redirects, may know, I was actually the one who criticized the use of the term ‘Illuminati’ in the last redirect and I apologize for doing so. But I won’t take it back because that’s how I feel about the term. I am very aware that you use the term ‘loosely’ and I totally understand why you used this term as most people are familiar with it and its use. It is widely associated with secret societies and the powers that be etc. I understand the ‘concepts’that we are dealing with and I agree that the terminology is of very little importance. But please know that despite such small differences in opinion, I support you 100% no matter what happens. I just prefer to say ‘the powers that be’. It’s just a matter of personal preference.  I did not intend for it to even be an issue and I did not say it to ‘quibble’ or make petty distinctions about what term is more appropriate. I figured that insignificant opinions such as mine would be ignored.

But I guess I see things in a positive way. At least I know that you are paying attention and that you value and listen to everything that we have to say on here and I really appreciate that.

Again, I would like to apologize to you for coming off as petty.   

I have yet to read this post in its entirety but I’ll be back to read (‘thoroughly’ lol) and maybe post. The forum is just a bit slow for me but it’s expected considering all of the new changes.

Thanks for the redirect TS.

With L.O.V.E.,

~alma~

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TIAI ~ 2011 / Re: TIAI June 25
« on: June 27, 2011, 04:31:48 AM »
Quote from: MJonmind
When people say, “This is so Michael”, and “Michael is a genius”, and “the Illuminati would never bother putting in so many complex details”. Maybe we should rethink those statements.[shadow=blue:2f3bg0eb] I’m not going to argue that MJ is dead like TS is saying he is in this level, but now I’ve got my brain going in this other direction which is kinda depressing and scaring me. [/shadow:2f3bg0eb]  <!-- scrash/ -->crash/<!-- scrash/ -->  <!-- sconfused/ -->confused/<!-- sconfused/ -->  <!-- spale/ -->pale/<!-- spale/ --> There have been several posts above which got my brain going in this direction.

Just a theory with Illuminati. What if MJ has been sweet, childlike, loving, innocent and NOT planning a death hoax throughout all these supposed 21 years of planning the hoax, and it has been the Illuminati all along doing everything. I know in one interview that MJ said that in the Billy Jean video the only thing he created was the dance on the road, and others planned ALL the rest, which has much symbolic details. Quincy Jones could be the Illuminati agent that put much of the cryptic hoax details in Thriller. The number 2040 on the space capsule could have been put there by someone else and hardly noticed by MJ. There may have been a concerted plan by the Illuminati to groom and use Michael right since his early rise to fame in Jackson 5 with them creating elaborate sets, videos while MJ only created music, danced with only innocent thoughts. TII was planned by the same group, fitting the themes and persona they had built around Michael over the years. They have planned this hoax as well, simply telling Michael when he has to get out of the way and stay hidden perhaps actually on some tropical island. So all this time since he was very young, Michael simply does what he’s told to do, fitting in with their creative plans, sets, outfits, and Michael gets all the credit of being a genius.

Meanwhile there’s a whole team of geniuses for many years working on this special “project”, let’s call it the “Illuminati Michael Hoax Project”. This is why the FBI are involved, because they are also part of Illuminati as are the CIA, who it seems were also involved in 911. Thus it is the Illuminati who are devising the dramatic world-wide BAM of Michael. He will enter the stage again when they cue him. This might explain why there are so many stories of enemies of MJ trying to take his money, of MJ being addicted to drugs and afraid for his life. Those stories may be all true, yet at the same time the Illuminati has creatively put out the Memorial, funeral (with Liberian Girl theme), TII film and the many other clues and numerology, and they will carry this “Project” to it’s completion. They designed the Dangerous album cover,  ‘Michael’ cover and others with all their Illuminati symbolism.  They are putting Michaelish clues in so many of the movies, and getting Oprah and LKL/Pierce to do MJ-related interviews.  [fade:2f3bg0eb]Perhaps TS is as  Do has suggested, an Illuminati agent, playing with us, knowing full well that they have truly “killed” MJ and have planned the hoax. [/fade:2f3bg0eb] BACK and FRONT may also be other agents that have their assigned roles all planned to appear like this Michael persona that they have created for fans and the world. Their purpose for the BAM is some future role they want him to play as their puppet.

We already know that there is much numerology and symbolism that could be Illuminati fingerprints in the death of Princess Diana, 911, Elvis, John Lennon, and other stories such as the Chilean minors and Osama Bin Laden’s death. So what if they pride themselves on MJ’s hoax death being their crowning achievement in the areas of entertainment, media,  and religion. This is why it seems like all the media and entertainment world seem to be knowledgable of the hoax, but not the general public including MJ fans. MJ’s family has been informed and trained in the carrying out of the hoax, and told they will be paid handsomely. They go along with it since MJ’s death is a hoax, and they want the money. MJ’s kids are told their Dad will still get to visit with them over the phone and occastionally in person so they're okay with it. MJ is told his career will be put back on track and his name will be cleared of the slander.

And while thinking about this, this may explain why Michael was framed and slandered in the 93 and 2005 sexual allegations by Tom Sneddon and the media, massive $7 million dollar legal cost and 70 police raiding Neverland. It was part of the long-term plan to put MJ’s ego in place so he would do as he was told, so that he would be obedient to their long-term plans of this hoax and grooming him as a puppet for a future leader role, or as an entertainment extravaganza of the century, to generate lots of money or whatever.  DD on LKL, hatman, blond lady could all be people made to look/sound like MJ to make people think hoax. When MJ said he was afraid for his life—he really meant it and was afraid of what they were up to.  [fade:2f3bg0eb]All the levels TS has initiated we’ve really been studying Illuminati’s clever details.[/fade:2f3bg0eb] Murray, the Coroner, LAFD are all being hired by them to do their roles. Branca is truly a crook and has forged a fake will, and on and on with the hoax inconsistencies and coincidences we’ve found these 2 years. EVERYTHING that pointed to Michael as its source is really a powerful, superintelligent team of Illuminati people planning this for at least 20 years.

But then there could be another layer, in which MJ was aware of their hoax plans and is planning some surprise of his own within their plan (a different hoax within a hoax from what others have discussed here), that will sabotage and change everything to the way he wants it to go. You never know, you just never know!  <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->  <!-- sbounce/ -->bounce/<!-- sbounce/ -->  <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->

I'm not saying at all I believe this, but I'm just throwing this out for you to prove it's not true. <!-- serrrr -->errrr<!-- serrrr -->  <!-- serrrr -->errrr<!-- serrrr -->  <!-- serrrr -->errrr<!-- serrrr -->


Hey MJonmind,

I’m quite fascinated with what you have posted. It’s a very interesting take on everything. I understand why you posted it and I can see why you have those concerns. I do hope that TS will respond to you.

But this is what I have to say about what you have posted and I hope no one crucifies me for saying it.

Before I say this, I would like to say that I do not believe this to be so but I will say it for the sale of debate.

 AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE EVERYONE TO DEBUNK THIS THEORY.

So here we go……

If what you have expressed is indeed the case

THEN..

Michel Jackson is the ANTICHRIST spoken of in the bible.

I do NOT believe this for one second because the bible is very clear about who the antichrist is, but since the previous post brought up interesting points, I thought I would entertain the idea.

The antichrist is said to have suffered a wound as unto death but the deadly wound was healed and he came back to life and the whole world was astonished saying “who is like unto the beast? Who is able to make war with him?”

This is in Revelations 13.

This event talked about in the bible can be likened to what will happen if Michael decided to BAM. The whole would be totally shocked and they would think that he came back from the dead. And everyone will say “Who is like Michael Jackson?! No one can even compare!”

I would again like to stress that I DO NOT believe that Michael is the antichrist because in the bible, the antichrist is not defined as a single individual from the future (our modern times) but rather a dynasty with certain traits that describe a well known religious leadership dynasty that has both religious and political power. The only leadership that we know of that has such influence is the papacy.

[glow=red:2f3bg0eb]I can assure you that Michael is NOT the antichrist![/glow:2f3bg0eb]

Happy debunking!!!!

<3

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TIAI ~ 2011 / Re: TIAI June 25
« on: June 27, 2011, 03:49:44 AM »
Hello TS,

I also figured that you would wait for the dust to settle. Lol Even so, it’s nice to see you post again!

I know that I hardly ever post on these redirects. I’d rather lurk around and see what’s being said. But for some reason, I feel compelled to get involved.

Now as for the evidence to support the belief that Michael is alive….I really have none to offer. Like many have said before me, this is all based on a gut feeling, intuition and what my heart has been telling me for the past year and 8 months.

This has been a spiritual journey for me and it has changed my life COMPLETELY. I was not a fan of his at all and I didn’t follow him nor did I know much about him. And yet his ‘death’ knocked the wind out of me!

Something that manages to pull the rug from under me (a former atheist who was desensitized to the world around me) like that and leave me emotionally crippled on the floor with no hope of ever being able to stand on my own two feet without God has to have a purpose.

For everything, there is a reason.

My main argument against the murder theory is as follows:

I firmly believe that there was a hidden agenda behind the accusations that Michael faced in both 1993 and 2003. Yes I do agree that there were people in the industry that were jealous of his success but I do not believe that this was the main reason that Michael faced such accusations. As most of you all remember, the media firestorm that occurred as a result of both cases was phenomenal and it pretty much overshadowed everything else that was occurring at the time.

I am of the belief that Michael was framed by the powers that be in order to cause a distraction.

But a distraction from what?  >>>>>>>>I think it is our job to figure this one out.

As for the illuminati, I would rather say ‘the powers that be’ because they are not the only ones that hold the control but rather are controlled, along with other groups, by an even higher up organization.

I do not really like to say’ Illuminati’ because it’s generic and they are not the only ones that control but rather are the ones who are controlled by an even higher up organization.

Killing Michael would only serve to hinder their agenda to demoralize the people of the world.
   
Just think about it…

Look what happened in the wake of his ‘death’. People started listening to his music even more. Many now have a deeper understanding of what he is all about (L.O.V.E.) even if they have no idea that he is still alive. They still carry his legacy.

He now has an even bigger presence in the world, a presence that cannot be diminished. His message continues with an even louder and clearer voice, the voice of his ever so devoted and passionate fans.

With Michael physically ‘gone’, the powers that be would not be able to use Michael’s plight as a media diversion to thwart attention away from something that they would much rather have kept under the carpet so to speak.

It would not be in their (the powers that be) best interest to have Michael murdered.

Here’s another thing that gets me:

The family is EXTREMELY complacent when dealing with Michael’s ‘murder’ as they claim it to be.

Sarahli and The RPM :

I totally agree with you on your all or your reasoning. I think someone here said it better than I could have. >

If Michael really is dead (which I know he isn’t), my high regard for the family would most certainly diminish because, judging from their strange behavior and lack or interest in justice ‘for a life taken’, the Jackson family, including his children, has to be the most heartless family I have EVER come to know of.

I feel so horrible to say this but the only reason that I can even say such a thing is because I truly believe that there is a hoax and that the family is in on it.  
 
But Like I said, I have no concrete evidence to support my theories or beliefs…All I base them on is logic.

God bless you all,

~alma~

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Hoax Videos / Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
« on: June 05, 2011, 11:36:18 PM »
Son:  LOL! ‘Sacrilegious symbols?’ The whole Roman Catholic Church is just a pile of ‘sacrilege’ along with all of her spawn harlot ‘Christian’ churches who’s pastors have descended so low as to kiss the pope’s sullied hand.  But I suppose many are blind to this. I believe I have the right to say this because I was blind to this myself.

Yes Michael maintained many of his ‘Christian’ beliefs but one must understand the difference between ‘true’ Christianity and ‘professed’ Christianity. The Jehovah’s Witnesses stress on this concept and it is probably one of the most important notions that Michael has kept with him.

(I hate to use the term ‘Christian’ as it has been cheapened by excessive and improper use.)

Catholicism is NOT true Christianity. It is pagan Baal worship with a ‘Christian’ twist. This is not a matter of opinion. This is fact. All of its religious practices are derived from ancient pagan rituals. One would have to be blind not to see this.

The ‘broader Christian faith’ deserves to be criticized. They ostracize the gay community and anyone who disagrees with them and their man-inspired doctrine and are shocked when said groups reject their “eternal message of Salvation”.

I know this to be so because I have seen this with my own two eyes.

Perhaps if they would actually read their Bible (if they indeed have one) they would know that Jesus teaches us how to approach an unbeliever >>>>With LOVE. NOT hate. We are to LOVE our enemies and do good to those who curse us and eventually, they will come around.

But instead, many so-called Christians do the exact opposite.

His 30th anniversary was an event that took place prior to his ‘death’ and is not relevant to the ‘death hoax’ so of course he would have picked artists of the time.  But the TII Concert tour was never meant to happen in the first place. It’s the main part of the hoax. So why would he bring attention to Lady Gaga in particular when there were a plethora of other artists? There were plenty of other ‘new’ (and safer) artists that he could have chosen. Michael has NEVER shied away from controversy. As it stands, Lady Gaga is the epitome of controversy.  Do you honestly think that Michael would play it safe for his most innovative work yet?

This is Michael’s hoax, not ours. And it will adhere to HIS personal tastes and preferences, NOT ours. It has NOTHING to do with what we deem as acceptable or what we prefer. I learned this early on.

Just because I don’t like certain things in the hoax investigation, (which I didn’t at one time ie: Elvis and other related stuff) does not invalidate them as credible possibilities. I would have thought that people would get this by now.

And I say this with all due respect.

Gwynned: Oh WOW! I actually remember reading about the dream that your son had quite some time ago. I have thought about that dream ever since.  It’s amazing that you posted on this thread because I have been trying to find you lol. The Vatican is full of Illuminati symbols and I think it’s so strange how most of the believers fail to point that out here. I suppose that it must be a touchy subject. After all, speaking against the Catholic Church has its consequences but I don’t care because I know that God goes before me.   

I have definitely considered the possibility.  As a matter of fact, I believe that the Vatican is indeed the seat of the antichrist. An individual like Michael is most certainly a threat to the Vatican because he has such an immense influence all around the world. He knows too much and has been trying to tell people what he knows through his music in the form of unorthodox subliminal messages.

I really think that Michael is a messenger of God. He fits the description quite well. Lol

I totally agree. He is definitely not sloppy. This is no mistake nor is this an accident. 

Thanks for your comment!
 
I have posted two other episodes so here they are:

Episode 11:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eumg-g9F8bs[/youtube]
Episode 12
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lw-CCh7I2Y[/youtube]

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Hoax Videos / Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
« on: April 27, 2011, 01:27:06 AM »
Ok… This a long post so here we go >_<;

Sarahli: OMG!!! I’m very sorry about not responding to your comment when I made that video post!

I totally understand where you are coming from. The first time I watched that video. I put my hands over my eyes. LOL! I had never seen anything like that in my life. I was an atheist but a conservative atheist. HAHA!!

I respect your views and I can see why you have that opinion. I was of the same opinion myself for a while.

Travis Payne says some interesting things concerning Lady Gaga and how much Michael admired her work. I believe that there is a reason for Travis to have referred to Lady Gaga. And it was done with very good timing if you take the ‘Alejandro’ music video into consideration. It seems to me that Michael wanted us to pay attention to what she was working on.

As for the Larry King interview of Lady Gaga…

She could have hesitated for many reasons. And yeah, like you said, it could lean either way. But why on earth would she make such a statement in the first place? I mean that’s huge!  I agree in that the concerts were never meant to take place but still. No one in Michaels’ camp has denied Lady Gaga’s claims. Usually Jermaine would comment on something that big to set the record straight. From what I know, I don’t think he has.

Do I think that Lady Gaga knows that Michael is alive? Well… I think that it is very possible but I will not say with certainty that she does.

I have seen many of her works and I have also seen a lot of her interviews as well as concert footage. She’s actually a very good speaker although her approach may be unconventional to some.

From what I have seen, she is raising awareness on how the gay community is mistreated and how society unfairly judges them. Yes others before her have done this but she has somehow appealed to those who are not gay. Why do you think I find this to be relevant?

The late Dame Elizabeth Taylor did the same thing herself. Michael was very close to Liz and they had a lot in common.

I grew up in a Christian home but I was just following the current but along the way, I had to really evaluate myself and my beliefs. I began to question everything.

I could not understand how people in the church were so judgmental. They would preach love yet they would hate. I began to resent them and I thought that if that’s the kind of God that they served, I wanted nothing to do with it.

Upon ‘seeking my own salvation’ I have come to the conclusion that there is no room for hate. Although I do not live a gay lifestyle myself, I love the gay community immensely. They are so loving and accepting to everyone. We have much to learn from them.

Yes I am a born again Christian (like some may call it) but I believe that any so called ‘Christian’ who discriminates against anyone for ANY reason is a big hypocrite and they have some serious soul-searching to do.

While Michael is straight, he loves everyone no matter who they are. This is an example that Jesus has set for us and I believe that it’s important to follow in his footsteps. That’s part of what this is all about.

Michael has shown us that it’s not impossible to do so in this world that is filled with so much evil.

Thank you for your comment and I truly appreciate you honesty! *hugs*<3

MJonmind: Thanks for you comment! I’m glad that this provokes thought in people. That’s all I want. I just want people to think of things that they have never thought of before. I suppose that that’s what Michael wants us to do. (Think outside the box)

Son: That’s a really good point that you make. I agree in that she is not his enemy. Even if she is not involved in the hoax, that does not rule out the possibility that Michael is using her without her knowledge. If this is the case, Michael has people in different places that let him know what Lady Gaga is up to. To me this is far fetched but you never know. Everything happens for a reason. I think that it would be more feasible for her to be in on it to a certain degree. In the least, she may know that Michael is alive and what his true message really is. It’s possible but I’m not gonna say that it’s so.

Thanks for your feedback!

TheRunningGirl: Oh I don’t mind at all lol. I actually got on here to post it. Thanks so much for posting it for me! <3

Oh woah! The whole Paul the Apostle connection is quite amazing! I always wondered about the ‘Dancing Philippines Inmates’ Video and its connections to the hoax.  Thank you for enlightening me on that one! It makes perfect sense!

Thanks again for your very interesting finds and info! It is much appreciated!!

~alma~

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Hoax Videos / Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
« on: April 14, 2011, 01:43:35 AM »
PureLove: You are very welcome! I hope you enjoy them! I send blessings to you too!

TheRunningGirl: Yes I believe that is a big possibility. Michael’s message in itself would shock the world if people had a full comprehension of it.  Like you just said, Michael knows the truth (Light) and he has been trying to let us in on it all this time but he saw that people were not getting it so he had to so something drastic to garner our attention.  I can’t think of anything more drastic than faking one’s death and succeeding in shocking the masses.

I agree with you in that this (shock) is just the dawning of awakening. 

The truth always prevails.

Thank you for your comment!

<3

Here’s Episode 9

Episode 9

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmIB9kEBZug[/youtube]

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Hoax Videos / Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
« on: April 12, 2011, 04:30:37 AM »
Thank you so much for your input TheRunningGirl!

I have not been on here for quite some time. I have been doing research for the upcoming episodes of the series.

Yes I agree with all that you have said. And yeah it is quite controversial isn’t it?

I do believe that the ‘whore of Babylon’ encompasses false religion. Revelations is very descriptive of this woman known as the ‘mother of harlots’. Religion has driven people to do sick and twisted things for hundreds if not thousands of years. I can not imagine that this woman would be anything but false religion.

Yes the Vatican controls all of the organizations that you have mentioned even if people refuse to acknowledge it to be so.

They (Vatican/religious leaders) wish to place a ‘secular’ veil over the so-called NWO so that they cane repel attention from themselves. They are the true puppet masters.

 The V for Vendetta parallels, in my opinion, are meant to prompt for us to do our ‘HIStory homework’.   

As for Lady Gaga, I was not sure how else to put it. I knew that people would have issues with it but I’m not making this video series for attention or for any vain purpose. It’s just to put my ‘revelations out there. People can choose to agree or disagree with the information presented.

Thank you again for you commentary!

LOVE  ~alma~

Now for the video series:

I’m sorry for taking such a long time to update this thread! I have made a few more videos since so here they are. I hope you all will find them to be interesting. I must warn you that episodes 6 and 7 are super fast paced. I didn’t want this subject to spill over to the next season.

Episode 6
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOcYXOCOuqU
[/youtube]
Episode 7
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdqCTV8fsUk[/youtube]

This is the first episode of season 2. It’s more of a transitional episode.

Episode 8
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMP2cHP5HOI[/youtube]

The next episode should be posted sometime this week.

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Hoax Videos / Re: Flem18 - do you like her videos?
« on: February 14, 2011, 10:06:26 PM »
Quote from: "curls"
All very well trying to work out the meaning of the lyrics but I don't think Flem18 has the right ones. I always understood it to be:

She told my baby (as in MJ's girlfriend/wife/partner/whatever) we'd danced till 3 as she looked at me. (knowing she was causing trouble between MJ and said girlfriend/wife/partner/whatever)
Then showed a photo, my baby cried (MJ's girlfriend/wife/partner/whatever cried when she saw the photo because...)
Eyes were like mine.

[MJ uses this 'bad girl' spoiling another relationship theme in Dirty Diana as well.]

So, to answer this thread's question - no I don't like this video!

I agree with you completely Curls.

But the theme of 'Billie Jean' has been adopted in nearly all of his works from the time he released ‘Thriller’ all the way to his latest release 'Michael.'

Billie Jean takes on different identities throughout his body of work. Diana and Susie are two of the more specific ones.

Although I must say that I believe that the maker of this video has taken the identity of 'Billie Jean' out of context.

The meaning behind the song and the video is soooooo much deeper than this.

I will say that I thought the videos were interesting nonetheless.

I think it's important to see all kinds of theories relating to the hoax.

Thanks for posting them tiida11!

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Hoax Videos / Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
« on: February 14, 2011, 06:55:54 PM »
Quote from: Sarahli
Okay thanks it works now  <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->  ... I don't know what happened last time.

You are welcome Sarahli! I’m glad that you were able to view the video!

I just posted Episode 5 a few hours ago. There is only one problem though. This video is not viewable in Germany. I found out that the reason it is being blocked in Germany is because of some copyright issues related to the CNN interview footage that I used. This is a very important part of the video and I do not want to remove it. I know of a couple of friends who are from Germany that were still able to watch Episode 1 before I posted the second edition version. I’m not sure how they did it. I’ll be sure to ask them.
 
Here’s Episode 5

Enjoy!

~alma~

Episode 5
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA7RC4V1g3s[/youtube]

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Hoax Videos / Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
« on: February 14, 2011, 04:07:25 AM »
Hey applehead250609

Thanks for your comment! I really hope you find them to be informative! ^^;

Quote from: "Sarahli"
Hi WhiteNight just watched the videos great job of investigation, this makes a lot of sense. I hope there's more to come? I unfortunately cannot have been able to watch the last video (episode 4), it says removed...

Hmmmmm... That is strange... It's still available on my channel. I am able to view it just fine. It also says that it is still available worldwide. I'll look into it. I'm also gonna look into getting a place that I can have them be available for download. I'll let you know about that later on.

Here is the link to my channel:

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Maybe you can see the video by going directly to my channel.

Thank you for your feedback. ^^ And yes, there will be much more to come. I should be posting episode 5 sometime today.

<3

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Hoax Videos / Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
« on: February 04, 2011, 11:30:38 PM »
Sorry for the delay on getting these posted here. >_<

Liberian Girl Heehee: Hey! I’m sorry that I took forever to even come back to this thread! Lol I have no idea as to what reaction people will have to my series because it is probably pretty controversial to some people with closed minds. But I quite frankly do not care. This is just something that hit me like lightning and I felt compelled to learn how to make videos so that I could share my revelations with others. Either way, I hope you find this series to be informative. <3

Here are the first four episodes to my new video series.

I can’t seem to edit my post so I guess I will have to just reply to the thread. I wish I could have just edited my first post... Perhaps I’m blind and the ‘edit’ button is there but I can’t see it. I know I have edited my own posts before.

Oh well… >_>

*Special Note*

I have created second editions to certain episodes that are blocked in some countries due to the music that I chose to use. I’m new to making videos and youtube uploading so I did not know that videos could be blocked based of certain content. I hate how the use of Michael Jackson music is grounds for blocking in certain countries. I find that to be quite annoying as his music is a VERY important accompaniment to his message. *sigh*

Anyway…

 I’m learning new things everyday with this video project. The only edition that does not have any music is ‘Episode 1 [Second Edition]’ I will probably re-upload this video with music later on after I finish this first season.

Second edition videos should be viewable globally. Episodes that do not have second editions should be viewable globally as well.

Episode 1
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCs-Y1SkI-Q[/youtube]

Episode 1 [Second Edition](NO SOUND)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAHRqA_Zfr8[/youtube]

Episode 2
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt0A7vKMuw8[/youtube]

Episode 3
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw_Qm14CPdg[/youtube]

Episode 3 [Second Edition]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd2k9U6VE-8[/youtube]

Episode 4
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyXKdxGZyt8[/youtube]

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TIAI ~ 2011 / Re: TIAI January 16
« on: January 18, 2011, 02:50:07 AM »
Hmmm. I think that this is probably one of the most fascinating redirects in my opinion. I think it’s strange because I’m working on a MJDH video series and I had planned to talk about Both Martin Luther King and Martin Luther.

These are the things that stood out to me concerning the redirect:

The idea that this redirect would be on the eve of MLK Day has lead me to believe that it is possible that Michael may be wittingly referring to both Martin Luther King and Martin Luther in ‘TDCAU.’

In this context, Michael says something in this song that I find to be rather interesting  …but Government don’t wanna see…’ He is telling us that the government is turning a blind eye to something. A blind eye to what? I thought that they were the enemy. If this is the case, who is really behind this proposed one world government and religion that is prophesied in the bible? Remember that the pope used the day of Michael’s memorial to announce a one world government.

Martin Luther believed that the papacy / Roman Catholic Church were the seat of the antichrist.

Luther fiercely accuses the pope of being the antichrist in one of his treatises titled ‘On the Babylonian Captivity of the Church.’

That basically sets the idea that the ‘Holy Mother Church’ is actually ‘Mystery Babylon, the Mother of Harlots’ spoken about by John in Revelation 17 and 18.

To me this is pretty easy to understand. The pope claims to be Jesus Christ on earth. If you don’t believe me, research about it. This is purely antichrist according to scripture. The Roman Catholic system has its hands stained with the blood of millions! This is a well documented fact. Many of these people were murdered because they refused to renounce their faith.

One of Luther’s statements at the Diet of Worms :  "Here I stand. I can do no other. May God help me. Amen".

This reminds me of the song ‘This Is It’: This is it here I stand I’m the light of the world I feel grand.

I see a few parallels with Luther’s life and Michael’s.  

Luther said that his father was very abusive to him and that he did everything he could to try to please him. Interestingly, after he had become a monk, he was quoted saying that it was ironic that he had placed himself in God’s service just to discover that God was even more demanding and most impossible to please.

Michael always claimed that Joseph was abusive with him.

Fredric III, Elector of Saxony, had Luther escorted to the security of his Wartburg Castle and kept him under his protection. During this time, it was as if Luther had ‘disappeared’.

Michael has friends in high places that have helped him pull this off.

Luther revolutionized the way people view salvation, God and faith in general.

Michael revolutionized the entire music industry.

Luther was persecuted by the Roman Catholic System because of his faith but God protected him.

I must say that I agree with some of you. I do believe that this is a major part of the message. A relationship with God is very important to Michael. Those who disregard these redirects simply because they are ‘too religious’ must understand this. This is not about religion but about our relationship with the Lord. Relationship and religion are two VERY different things. Religion is just a set of man-made rituals.

I agree with Martin Luther in that salvation is attainable by faith and God's grace.
   
Souza: I agree with you on that one. I trust Michael too and I don’t know why but I do. This is so strange I must admit. I was not a fan before June 25th 2009. I too feel regret that I did not follow Michael before but God knows what he does.

We love you TS! Thank you for the redirect! I support both you and Michael all the way!

Here is a great documentary on Martin Luther that I found. It was actually the first one I found. Lol If sharing is disabled on these videos, click on the below. (It’s a link to the first part):

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Episode 1 Driven to Defiance
Part 1 [youtube:1ajljspj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsMpIx6fxoA&feature=related[/youtube:1ajljspj]
Part 2 [youtube:1ajljspj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOq93pUZyD8&feature=related[/youtube:1ajljspj]
Part 3 [youtube:1ajljspj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnjGIv-tFEE&feature=related[/youtube:1ajljspj]
Part 4 [youtube:1ajljspj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjvPlztYuGc&feature=related[/youtube:1ajljspj]
Part 5 [youtube:1ajljspj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29FiYa0A5tU&feature=related[/youtube:1ajljspj]
Part 6 [youtube:1ajljspj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i8u_KQvZkk&feature=related[/youtube:1ajljspj]

Episode 2
Part 1 [youtube:1ajljspj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p01dS27bCQ&feature=related[/youtube:1ajljspj]
Part 2 [youtube:1ajljspj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXLr_Rtv-es&feature=related[/youtube:1ajljspj]
Part 3 [youtube:1ajljspj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY6hMVMtjPg&feature=related[/youtube:1ajljspj]
Part 4 [youtube:1ajljspj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzUPp1BgWg8&feature=related[/youtube:1ajljspj]
Part 5 [youtube:1ajljspj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YiEXA2Mv-s&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/youtube:1ajljspj]
Part 6 [youtube:1ajljspj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rK8HL7ziN4&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/youtube:1ajljspj]

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Hoax Videos / Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
« on: December 21, 2010, 03:17:02 AM »
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gppPhMvApio[/youtube]

Are you ready to question what you have been conditioned to beLIEve?

This series is designed for advanced hoax believers. If you are new to the hoax, I recommend that you read up on it and watch videos about the hoax. It’s not an absolute necessity but it will definitely help you to have a deeper understanding of some of the concepts that I will present. I will try to the best of my ability to make this series as comprehensive as possible without dully repeating what has already been covered.

I will post links to videos and a website that I find to be very informative. If you happen to watch videos and read articles from the following links, please do so with an open mind. Don’t be so quick to jump to conclusions. I have seen all of these videos myself and I would like to extend my gratitude to all of the creators of these videos. They have been a great source of information and contain interesting ideas. Although I will admit that I don’t agree 100% on all of the ideas that have been presented. But that’s what’s so great about being able to think for oneself. I know that many will not agree with everything on my video series but that’s ok. I see no need to assert my ideas or opinions on anyone. I’m just here to present information. It’s your choice to watch these videos and it is also your choice to agree or disagree with the ideas presented.

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I would also like to mention that this series is not designed to ‘convert’ anyone into a believer. But if people becomes a believer because of my video series, I would be fine with it. The way I see it is like this: If you don’t believe by now, then you will probably never believe. Even if Michael would get in your face and tell you that he is alive, you would scoff at him and say that he’s an imposter.

Another thing that I want you guys to keep in mind is that I have absolutely no experience in creating videos. The trailer for my series happens to be the first video I have ever made in my entire life! The incredible timing on this trailer just freaks me out. All I know is that I had visualized how I wanted this trailer to be. But I never imagined that it would turn out as good as it did. It just had to be God. There is no other explanation for this. All things happen for a reason. As I go along, I know that this will be a learning experience. I must admit that I was pretty fearful of the idea of making videos. I did not know where to start. But I knew that it was important and that it was something that I had to do. 


I have already made a decision concerning comments. I will permanently disable comments in all of my videos for this series on Youtube. I refuse to allow petty disagreements to pollute the comments section. I feel that it would interfere with the effectiveness and goal of the series. I also think that allowing comments would be a consensual invitation for unnecessary drama.

I would prefer that those who are interested discuss this video series here. I apologize for the inconvenience of these arrangements. I just want to make sure that the discussion is productive and that it involves serious believers.

I will be posting the first episode sometime in January, 2011.

Love and Light,

~alma~

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Michael / Re: 'Monster'- 50 Cent says : “The King has Risen”
« on: December 15, 2010, 12:43:54 AM »
Oh lol Thank you for telling me this! I was trying to find a thread about this becasue i wanted to se what everyone was saying about it but it must have slipped by me as I was looking.

Dear Mo and Souza: feel free to delete this thread if you think you have to! ^^;

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