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TIAI ~ 2011 / Re: TIAI July 7
« on: July 27, 2011, 12:36:07 PM »
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I have a problem with the 911 theory.

If MJ narrowly escaped death in the 9/11 tragedy, clearly he should be aware of this, yes? At least after the fact, like omigosh, they tried to hit me... set me up... how lucky am I... I should really watch my back... because I got very lucky missing that meeting...

And yet just a few months later he is appearing in Times Square, out in the open, for several minutes, just standing there, waving to fans, as the Blue Gangster... and later that same day, personally appearing in public to sign autographs and albums for his Invincible release party. Why did he feel so confident to make such open, public appearances if TPTB wanted him so dead?

Just saying... these events and actions seem very contradictory considering the time line.

Actually, MJ already knew before 9-11 2001 that there were evil powers out to get him; but he also had strong faith that God could protect him, and the fact that he was protected on 9-11 only made his faith stronger.  Some have even mentioned on this thread that they believe God proteced MJ, by keeping him from attending that meeting.  Also, having faith in God does not mean doing nothing to protect yourself; this is why he wore the vest, and took other precautions.

Also, there was at least one redirect on MJ being protected by God, way back in 2009 (see R37 in TIAI Revealed Part 7).

P.S. Congrats Bec, on the upgrade to Mod!


Who to tell Michael to go WTC 9 / 11?, .. there is the dilemma
LaToya knows


I too wonder who set up that meeting at the WTC... and also the 30th Anniversary concert shows. Did MJ set up those concerts or did someone else do it to lure him to NYC?  So many unanswered questions.

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Could the Estate really shut it down? On the website, they don't use MJ's picture or even his full name. The only place I see where his full name is used is in the message from Katherine Jackson. MJ's estate was left to her and his children. Would she still need permission to use her son's name in an announcement of this kind?

Also, there are other Michael Jackson Tribute Concerts selling tickets that ARE using MJ's likeness and his name. There is even another one on October 8 in Houston dubbed Who's Bad: The Ultimate Michael Jackson Tribute. I wonder did they get permission?

Just curious...

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Back/Front discussions / Re: Official back & Front thread
« on: July 25, 2011, 11:28:07 PM »
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centrifuging on the vial

Can someone with an understanding of medical jargon read this and tell me what it means?
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Just copying and pasting it here in case it disappears:



On Monday 25th July 2011, @jermjackson5 said:

STATEMENT FROM JERMAINE & RANDY JACKSON
RE THE MICHAEL JACKSON TRIBUTE CONCERT

July 25, 2011

Today's press conference in Los Angeles announced a tribute concert to Michael to be attended and supported by the Jackson Family. However, we want to make clear that this does not reflect the position of the entire family.

While we wholeheartedly support the spirit of a tribute that honors our brother, we find it impossible to support an event that is due to take place during the criminal trial surrounding Michael's death. As everyone knows, those proceedings commence September 20th, and this "Michael Forever" concert takes place in Cardiff, Wales, UK,on October 8th. In light of this, we feel it is inappropriate to be involved with such an ill-timed event and its promoter, Global Live.

Furthermore, the decision to proceed with this concert disrespects opinions and wishes expressed in the strongest terms to Global Live during conversations in April when this event was presented to the majority of the family as an idea already in its advanced stages.

There will come a time and place for an amazing and deserving tribute to Michael. But we feel that the most important tribute we can give to our brother at this time is to seek justice in his name.


JERMAINE JACKSON & RANDY JACKSON

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saw this retweeted from MJHJOAXLIVE:

TEDDY RILEY
@TeddyRiley1 TEDDY RILEY
THANK YOU GOD FOR THIS DAY I WILL REMEMBER. TOMORROW IS NOT PROMISE. I WAS BORN THE 8TH DAY OF OCT. THATS WHEN HE ROSE FROM THE DEAD.
16 May via web Favorite Retweet Reply

Well that is very interesting considering the announcement from today about the tribute concert being on Oct. 8. Though, I guess he could have known the concert was to be scheduled for that date and just worded his tweet to mess with us...IDK.

What do y'all think?

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TMZ Articles / Big Blow to Defense In MJ Manslaughter Trial
« on: July 25, 2011, 12:18:57 PM »
Big Blow to Defense In MJ Manslaughter Trial

5 minutes ago by TMZ Staff 

The judge in the Michael Jackson manslaughter trial just undercut a big part of the defense, by ruling 16 hours of rehearsal footage for the "This Is It" tour doesn't show MJ to be in poor health.




Dr. Conrad Murray's lawyers wanted the outtakes to prove Jackson was very ill in the days before his death.  The argument goes -- he was already dying, so Dr. Murray can't be held responsible for his death.

But Judge Michael Pastor ruled ... the outtakes were valuable to Sony Pictures -- which objected to turning over the footage -- and the video did not show MJ in poor health.

If the hours of video show a healthy Michael, it undercuts a major line of defense for Murray.

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Found this:

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So apparently the concert is October 8 at Cardiff Millenium Stadium...and will be broadcast around the world in 2D and 3D according to this:
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Apparrently it was quashed...

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Back/Front discussions / Re: Official back & Front thread
« on: July 20, 2011, 11:55:17 AM »
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
Interesting idea.
I think there is something we don't understand, at the beggining it was simple, there was an abu7ndance of clues every day. Now what is it, I don't understand, this silence is scary...Is the hoax on vacation?

yeah, it's like it was only planned out up to the 1 year mark and then after that it's been just spotty at best with clues. Now it seems as it's just made up as they go along...or someone else is making it up. JMO

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TIAI ~ 2011 / Re: TIAI July 7
« on: July 20, 2011, 04:26:41 AM »
Quote from: "TS_comments"



First of all, this is not a new level; this is a continuation of level 5, started on 6-25-11 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.  However, this post is long enough and important enough, that I put it into a new thread and new redirect.  

This post is primarily going to be quotes from La Toya Jackson’s new book, Starting Over (to save space, I will only reference the page number for documentation; but unless otherwise stated, all quotes in this post are from that book).  With the release of this book, we now have official and very public statements from a Jackson family member, verifying several things that TS has been saying for nearly two years now—including and especially that there was an exact day planned for the death, and MJ himself knew the exact day in advance!  No longer can anyone claim that the 777 and other numerology was a coincidence; and TS was the first to tell you about it on 9-7-09, with much greater detail in Update 4 in March of 2010 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

Please limit this thread to discussion on La Toya’s book (especially as it relates to what I have quoted below, and level 5); and continue to use the other thread for everything else related to level 5 {again, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

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We Should Investigate What Happened to Michael

There is a dedication page in the front of the book, and the very last sentence on that page says: “Let’s continue to support the King and find out what truly happened to him, and let’s keep his legacy alive.”  The book ends with a similar statement: “Everyone still has strong opinions about the estate, the people controlling it, and what happened to Michael.” (335).  Interesting that these statements use the wording “what (truly) happened to” Michael—instead of saying, who killed him.  Jermaine also used this same wording, in his one year anniversary interview with Larry King {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

“I wondered if my family would investigate [if La Toya had been killed], or if they would believe what they were told and never know the truth.” (9).  “But I quickly realized that I had to have an open mind, and I could not assign the blame to either party until I had heard the full story from both sides.” (266).  Here again, we see that La Toya is against being prejudice and in favor of investigating the truth—we should not merely believe what we are told.

“There is still so much to be learned and so much to be revealed. … I’m not done with my investigation for the truth yet; I’ve only scratched the surface. I will never give up until I unveil the truth and justice is served.” (331,333).  Does anyone remember TS saying that “everything covered so far has just been an introductory course” {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.

Also, if MJ is really dead, then “justice” would certainly include justice for murder; but if he faked his death, there is still justice to be served: for attempting to kill him (on 9-11-2001 and other times); and for the false pedophile charges, etc.

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The “Conspiracy” Is Much Bigger than Just a Few Executives

Speaking of the attempt to kill MJ on 9-11, here it is: “I later learned that Michael was supposed to attend a meeting at the top of the World Trade Center at 9:00 a.m. on September 11, but he was too tired, and the meeting was canceled. Had he gone, he would have died in the attack that day.” (186).

Wow!  What a coincidence!!!   :shock:  :o  :shock:   Notice that the meeting was not only scheduled for the morning of the exact day (an afternoon meeting would not have killed him, because the towers would’ve come down already), but it was planned for the “top” of the building—which is the place least likely for survival.  For those who are not easily fooled by the “coincidence” excuse: this shows that the “conspiracy” against MJ was far bigger than just a few executives at Sony, and/or AEG, etc.  This was a major NWO power that knew about the 9-11 attacks in advance!  And by the way: TS said this very thing clear back in 2009 {You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}.
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I would be interested to know who arranged the 30th Anniversary Special concerts and also the meeting at the World Trade Center on Sept. 11. Who's idea was the concerts? Who set the dates and made all the arrangements? What was the meeting at the WTC about? Who arranged it? Etc, etc. Was it any of those people surrounding MJ up to June 25, 2009?
Anybody know?

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Other Odd Things / Re: V for Vanquish new video.. July 12th/13th
« on: July 13, 2011, 12:55:54 PM »
Quote from: "iamamjbeliever"
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE USE A REVERSE PROGRAM TO REVERSE WHAT HE SAID AT THE END
I don't know but if he said "keep watching" I'm going to scream.  crash/

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Back/Front discussions / Re: Official back & Front thread
« on: July 11, 2011, 12:48:27 AM »
Quote from: "Sarahli"
MDC, you seem to don't even believe that Michael is alive so I don't understand why you even bother to follow the "cryptic messages" from a "so called insider". Especially when you say that everything in this Hoax has only been lies?? What do you expect from Front then? I'm sorry I really don't understand.

I'm sorry if I have offended you in some way. However, until I see Michael Jackson alive with my own two eyes I will not overlook the fact that someone MAY be yanking our chains. I know things about his "death" don't add up. That is why I'm on a death hoax INVESTIGATORS forum. As for why I'm following this thread, well simply because I follow every thread. Why leave a stone unturned? But perhaps I should turn this stone back over and walk away.

As for my problem with the lies. Well, everything HAS been lies. In fact that is the very definition of a hoax is it not? But if someone could point me in the direction of where the truths are, I'd be happy to leave this forum. Because really that is all I want... From "Front", from "back", from MJ's family, and from Michael Jackson himself. I can only live on lies for so long before I start realizing it's not enough to sustain me. I just can't figure out why me wanting the truth is so wrong.

I'm starting to think those who believe MJ is dead took the easy way out.

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Back/Front discussions / Re: Official back & Front thread
« on: July 10, 2011, 01:28:55 PM »
Quote from: Front
A purely hypothetical presentation…….

Let's say, for a moment, that MJ was on this very board. Let's also say, for the sake of this hypothetical discussion, that MJ has "associates" that have a specific job to do directly related to the hoax--- IF, in fact, there is one. Now, let's say these "associates" were "planted" by MJ himself (whether or not MJ has planted them as himself, or planted them "behind the mask"/screen names---- it's irrelevant!) in the vast spectrum of the electronic world----better known as the Internet--- in order to sew the "seeds" from which fruition will fervently blossom when the TIME and "environment" have acquired specifically adept protocol to allow these "forces" to ripen.

The sewers must be ripe from byproducts of the fruit grown from the seeds SOME have sown. Perhaps IF we could sew up the identities of these so called “sowers” we might trace the stench back up the sewer line to the ripest of these defecators…and then adeptly follow protocol. I wonder who would be getting the swirly? 

Quote from: Front
In theory….. IF there is a hoax, let me assure every eye that's reading this and let me be very clear…..MJ has constructed the Plan of GENIUS. This is not some kiddie play in a tabloid arena that touts headlines about some blonde lady with big tits giving birth to a two-headed alien baby, now 1 year old and 98 pounds. Mmmm…..got milk? 

Furthermore, this is not some half-assed, half-witted plan that was hastily thrown together because "MJ had to make a quick escape" <----I'm quite sure yours truly is not the only one who has grown weary of hearing that particular theory. Moreover, this is not an arrangement executed by slack-jawed mouth-breathers walking around trying to find their nuts because somewhere along the way they lost the INTEGRITY and balls to carry out the Plan as MJ SEES FIT.

Hypothetical or not, that premise doesn't give me the warm and fuzzies about your authenticity of being an "associate" of MJ's. Let ME be clear... Do you even know what the hell you are talking about? I'm not so sure since you managed to get tits, nuts, and balls all in the same post. As for integrity, some must have a different understanding of the word. Because, in my mind, honesty is the heart and soul of integrity and I have yet to come across anyone in this mess with what I would call unadulterated integrity. I'm looking for truths. But I've been swimming in the sewer of lies for 2 years now and all I've found around every turn is another load of crap.

Quote from: Front
NOW……..would anyone be so damn selfish as to even inquire about that person's (or persons) identity <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->

SELFISH?!!!! Have you lost your mind? We are on the INTERNET.. not at Disneyland. How stupid would we have to be NOT to question your identity? And how dare you question our morals when if you took your head out of your ass long enough to see we have been on a mission to find out about the truth of what happened to MJ for 2 years now. If I were selfish, I would have said I don't give a damn and moved on a long time ago. And don't think just because you said you agree that we should question your identity that the sting of being called selfish was any less...but I understand the sting was your intention.

Quote from: Front
That said, I have nothing to lose and nothing to prove. My intention and purpose here is not to prove/win/lose or satisfy anyone or feel "accepted". Do not let curiosity & wishful thinking hinder perception. Do not become utterly transfixed on the future. Instead, focus on the moment…WHEN it arrives. Do not let curiosities create barriers to logic. You are in the forest……..what do you SEE? 1 tree? 2 trees? 1,000 trees? some animals? flowers? Unless FACTS become the focal point of logic, one will forever be inebriated with irrelevant technicalities and become lost in TIME trying to find that "magic potion" to satiate their curiosities. When the TIME comes, embrace the moment(s). The moment is HERE…..the moment is NOW…..the moment of "tomorrow" will be "today".

Ironic. You DO realize you are one of those "magic potions" don't you? What I wouldn't give for a cauldron full of Veritaserum.

And FACTS? The only FACT we have is that MJ is gone. Where, how and why? Who the hell knows. All we have is speculation on the INTERNET and that hardly amounts to facts. Logically it is understandable that we would lose our focus since we have no sustainable facts to guide us. All we have is a trail of lies...and we are back in the sewer...again.


Quote from: Front
I suggest a cool, calm and caring approach to all things/people related to the hoax. Meticulous minds, scrutinizing eyes & understanding hearts <----those are HIGHLY under-rated assets.

Good to know my scrutiny is an asset. Though my heart won't understand until I get the truth.

Quote from: Front
Patience & perseverance are KEY. Why? Because he says so!  <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
I'm still waiting for patience. Maybe I'll get some when I'm dead.

And just so you know, the "because I said so" excuse never works with my children. Now I know why.

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General Hoax Talk / Re: @theillusion777
« on: July 09, 2011, 12:59:17 PM »
Quote from: "AnaMarcia"
:lol: New twitter:

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And now this twitter is gone. He keeps disappearing, maybe he IS an illusion. lol

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Others / Re: Ian Halperin and his new target : Lady Gaga ...
« on: July 09, 2011, 10:47:23 AM »
Quote from: "Bee Bee"
Oh dear, I wonder what kind of "friends" those must be, talking trash about Gaga to Halperin.  :roll:

Imaginary ones? :)

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