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Who knows. Thome is definitely mysterious to say the least. I only want to point out that this case no. BP 117 321 is the same as any other case no but all with other content.

This is too strange and it looks just fabricated. He could be a good or a bad guy. But the way I see things right now I give him the benefit of a doupt - simply based on the fact that press, estate (Branca & Co.) etc. are trying every effort to give TT the extreme bad guy card. Remember what the media says is mostly just the other way around. I for one do not trust the estate. And to me it goes the same i.r. to the charges brought up by the estate against TT.

PS: And since most on this forum trust Jermaine, let's not forget that Jermaine AND TT held the press conference at UCLA Medical Center on 6/25/09. If we doubt TT, then what about Jermaine? ...  :icon_e_confused:





and Thome accompany the " corpse " Michael until the helicopter :confused: :WTF:

To make sure his 'client' does make it to the next stage of the hoax?

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Who knows. Thome is definitely mysterious to say the least. I only want to point out that this case no. BP 117 321 is the same as any other case no but all with other content.

This is too strange and it looks just fabricated. He could be a good or a bad guy. But the way I see things right now I give him the benefit of a doupt - simply based on the fact that press, estate (Branca & Co.) etc. are trying every effort to give TT the extreme bad guy card. Remember what the media says is mostly just the other way around. I for one do not trust the estate. And to me it goes the same i.r. to the charges brought up by the estate against TT.

PS: And since most on this forum trust Jermaine, let's not forget that Jermaine AND TT held the press conference at UCLA Medical Center on 6/25/09. If we doubt TT, then what about Jermaine? ...  :icon_e_confused:

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Is Thome really evil ... ?! Although Thome R. Thome is a strange character in this whole saga, I have a question:

On June 29, 2009, a petition in regards to family allowance has been filed. Under Case No. BP 117 321.

September 22, 2010: a petition for allowance of compensation to attorneys and instructions re creditors’ claims was filed by the Estate. Case No. BP 117 321.

This year, supposedly, Branca/McClaine filed a Petition with the Superior Court under the case no. BP 117 321 (this one looks totally fabricated to me)

But: Joe Jackson has filed a complaint with the Superior Court against the estate. Under Case No. BP 117 321.

Now, unless I am completely unfamiliar with habits of filing cases ... But different persons filing different cases under the same case No. BP 117 321 seems just a bit TOO strange to me.  :WTF:

PS: I highly doubt the Estate has good intentions. I cannot shake this feeling off they try a bit too much to steer the focus on everyone else, thus away from themselves. I am still thinking that Thome might have been deliberately hired BECAUSE he was not a business insider and BECAUSE he was unheard of, THUS making him less of a target while working for MJ, i.e. being a true protections shield for MJ. Oh, good night to everyone.

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Oh no, not another tell-all. How many 'truths' can one handle ...  :WTF:

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Twitter ~ Verified Accounts / Re: Paris Jackson Twitter @ParisJackson
« on: September 14, 2012, 04:02:39 AM »
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Okay, is it just me? I honestly think something odd is up with Paris these last few years. The way she is referring to Michael, who is supposed to be her loving father that tragically passed away, is just a little bit weird to me. It honestly appears to me that since Michael's public 'memorial' back in 2009, Paris has been acting more like a hardcore fan of Michael than his daughter - his only daughter for that matter.

When we saw the 'memorial' back in 2009, it was then that I thought Paris was genuinely coming across as Michael's daughter. She called him "the best Daddy you could ever imagine'', she said she loved him literally in front of the whole world, and I just got the vibe that she loved her Dad and that she was a 'Daddy's girl' so-to-speak. Yes, we all know that since Michael lives, her tears were fake. But I DO believe that at the time she meant was she said. I bet Michael was and still is an amazing father, and I bet she does love him. Obviously, she has grown older and has become more mature, but I truly believe that no matter how old you are, a daughter will always be a daughter. No matter how old a daughter may be, she will always be close to her parents, especially the parent who was ''the best Daddy you could ever imagine''. And, if Michael IS actually gone, you'd think that his passing would bring Paris closer to him, almost like a 'you don't know what you've got till it's gone' sort of thing. But, to me, she's now acting like a hardcore fan, NOT a daughter who lost her only parent who was truly a gift to this world in many ways.

But since the memorial, she has completed an interview with Oprah, she has gotten a verified account on Twitter, she has begun her acting career, and she has definitely become more public and accepted as an individual star - not just as being known as 'Michael Jackson's daughter'. She has also been writing messages to and about Michael on her Twitter and other social media outlets. After examining ALL of these things that she has been doing since the memorial, I honestly find it extremely weird how she, as his daughter, refers to Michael

Let's start with Oprah. During her Oprah interview with Katherine, Paris showed us her bedroom. You'd think, as Michael's DAUGHTER, she would have personal, private pictures of herself and Michael that we fans have never seen before. You'd think those photos would be in nice frames beside her bed, with maybe a little momento Michael had given her sometime ago, etc. Just SOMETHING that ONLY Michael's daughter would have. But, that wasn't the case. When Paris showed us her bedroom, you saw posters of Michael. Just posters. In fact, I believe I even have some of the posters that she has. When I saw Paris' bedroom, it looked like a hardcore fan's bedroom. If I didn't know Paris, it would have NEVER occured to me, by looking at her bedroom, that she was Michael Jackson's daughter. I'm aware that during this interview Paris, Prince, Blanket, and Katherine were renting a house while their other home was being renovated or fixed up or something along those lines. Even with this in mind, I believe my point still stands. If my family and I were moving for a long enough period of time to actually rent another home, the FIRST thing I would bring with me would be personal momentos and pictures of my father who passed away. This is just my opinion. :)

Now let's examine her Twitter. On her Twitter, there have been times where Paris speaks of Michael in present tense, posts song lyrics, and she even said Happy Birthday to Michael this year. I know many of you don't believe the birthday thing to be odd, but I personally do. It's not like Michael 'passed away' the day before his birthday this year. He passed away 3 whole years ago. I personally think that, as a daughter, when you are living in the world without your only father for over 3 years, there's no real need to acknowledge his birthday anymore on social media. In real life, I can understand. I can understand Paris visiting Michael's 'grave', having a nice time in family sharing memories, etc. But is there truly a need to acknowledge Michael's birthday on Twitter and other social media if he's gone? The birthday represents a new mile stone in one's current existence on earth. Once you're no longer living, I don't believe one's birthday has any significance, especially if that person believes in Heaven and the afterlife, which is something I believe in strongly, so I admit that I am biased on this section of my post. Maybe it's just me, but I don't see the need to acknowledge Michael's birthday on social media as a daughter anymore. Acknowledging Michael's birthday on social media is something a FAN does. Which leads back to my whole point in this post - Paris isn't acting like Michael's daughter, more like a hardcore fan.

Next, I find that whole ''Who Is Michael Jackson?'' message that Paris wrote a bit weird too. It's only weird to me because it's supposed to be coming from Michael Jackson's DAUGHTER. If a simple fan wrote that message, it wouldn't be weird to me at all. But since Paris is his daughter, I find it a bit weird that she would say, ''I've known him for over 10 years''. It just doesn't sound like something a daughter would say. If she truly loves her father, which I bet she does, don't get me wrong, I think she would make a much stronger and a much more touching sentence than that. Like, for example, ''I lost my father at 10 years old. I loved him SO much and always will. He was the best Dad I could have ever asked for and I truly believe I know him better than anyone'' or something along those lines. Like, when I describe who my Dad is to me, I NEVER think of how long I've known him for. I think about the incredible, loving, person he is no matter what people may say about him. Paris, as his daughter, should NOT have to try and prove anything to the world by giving a statistic of how long she has known Michael for. It's her DAD - of course she knows him well. She LOVES him, she doesn't just know him. It's just not something a daughter would say in my opinion.

I honestly believe she's been acting so much like a fan. What do you guys think? Would love to hear your opinions!

God Bless!


VERY GOOD POINTS!  :th_bravo: THIS has bugged me as well. And for me personally it raises the question in me if Paris really IS THE Paris. I will lean myself out of the window again on that and seriously consider that young girl being on the payroll of SONY to play Paris.  Something is definitely off with her. Despite the fact that she is a teenager and having fun with her friends (as seen in published photos) she really does act like a hardcore fan.
And on top of that I find her bedroom to look pretty middle class (no offense) when considering the fact that she is actually living in a luxurious surrounding ... . :icon_geek:

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AEG ~ Sony / Re: Source of leaked Michael Jackson e-mails identified
« on: September 07, 2012, 02:22:55 AM »
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he was slow in learning his dance routines
:WTF: Really?! he INVENTED them!!! No need to learn anything. I bet he could do them in his sleep.
Huge alarm bells!


I get the feeling Mann is taking the fall for the Jacksons.  And the Estate bargained with him to do so. "We settle, you take the blame for the leak we're gonna do" since they new before they were published. AEG knew a week before so Mann must have knows before. Just a theory  :suspect:

Also, the fans as leaking sources?! really?!

I'm still unclear on how these e-mails where leaked to the Jackson's and how AEG knew that!

Exactly. Brings up the questions again if that was really MJ or a fake MJ and Philipps was led to BELIEVE it was the real MJ.
a) someone who never did a routine and isn't trained to learn a routine is slow in learning one or
b) it was someone (NOT MJ) under heavy drugs.
Look at the dance routine, that 'MJ' was rehearsing before a green screen with the others in a circle, it SURE AS HELL looked like MJ was the leader!

I am not certain about Randy yet but rather tend to that he was used in this whole story himself. He might have believed it was MJ and deceived with this.

To the 'fans' leaking e-mails. OK, I have this theory that these so called 'fans' are payed people > employees of some sort. At least they must have SOME access to information. If I would try to go to, let's say Sony, to get some 'infos' they would just laugh at me and remove me with security. So some have more access than others. However that access is comprised.

Great thoughts from EVERYONE here! Thanx! :th_bravo:

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Mysterious prediction of MJ's skin change
« on: September 07, 2012, 01:59:51 AM »
Thanks so much for bringing THIS up.  :th_bravo:

Since Cher was IN the industry already then, I suppose she was attending dancings/parties from the 'Hollywood Elite', ergo, high profile people were/are guests. Maybe this 'someone' was a bit too eager in telling this to her and I guess there were others who heard that as well. I am sure that such 'parties' are extremely above what we would generally call parties. You're not in their circle, you won't attend. I am not surprised about her saying something like that. In retrospective it always felt like Michael simply 'endured' this 'change' and tried to make the best out of it. Yet, fully knowing what was induced into him.

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... and with that said he definitly appears to be the fall guy.

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He TOOK propofol or he WAS GIVEN propofol ... ?!   :Pulling_hair: same as dept created by himself or dept created by his staff without his knowledge ...  :Pulling_hair:

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Mmh ... two versions:

a) he was held unconcious by handlers
b) it wasn't Michael Jackson after all 

 ;D

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Right. And furthermore, IF it was the real MJ Randy was experiencing ... would a professional like MJ - albeit his long absence from the stage - be sooo 'paralized' and 'riddled with self loathing'? Although stage fright is common and we know Michael took his prep for a stage show extremely serious, we're not talking about an MJ that didn't work while away from the spotlight all those years. So, I would rather say, this describes a first time Michael Fakeson scared to death of the responsibility that weighted on his shoulders. I would be scared to death knowing I'd be a replacement of a living legend and I'd have to make people believe I was MJ ... No way, that was the real Michael.

IF indeed it was MJ, then there were other circumstances that made him 'paralized' ... 

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Interesting thoughts. The planning of the Greatest Show on Earth takes more time than 8 days. This is of course unless MJ and Branca DID plan WAAAAYY before MJ 'died' and it was planned to rehire Branca 8 days before. However he contradics himself (Branca) with 8 days and now being hired back a month :icon_exclaim: before MJs 'death' (credit goes to the wonderful Bonny Cox Michaels' guardian blog latest of today). Branca is not to trust as far as I'm concerned and A LOT is not what it seems. I even doubt Paris is the real Paris due to her behavior. But that's another story that Bonnie is well documenting and she raises a lot of great questions. However, IF that story is true, and I highly doubt it, then the next questions arises, would Michael do something like that just for the fun of a business move? I would say, no, as there is too much at stake. But that's just my 2 cents - if anyone reads my thought at all ... 

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well I hear Tito in that voice, Tito has a cool velvety voice I don't know if a voice can be thick lol but tone, pitch  and base fits Titos to a "T" pun intended  :icon_e_wink: I ask everybody to please don't sleep on this like I said it's worth keeping an eye on.

I assure you, I have not 'slept' on it.

I extracted tito's voice from different recordings, I added whited noise, even changed it so it sounded like it was on a telephone call. I got words such as "way" from both the 911 and a clipping of his and looked at the patterns of the voices. I even smoothed out the white noise of the 911 call as much as possible and tried bringing the voice to as normal non telephone sounding as possible. I spent over 3 hours doing this,  looking for things the same.

The operator either has a cold at the time of call or he naturally speaks with what sounds like a blocked nose of sinus's closer to how jermain sounds with that blocked nose kind of speech.

There is not a way to drop the BASE or as I like to GRAPHICALLY look at tones and pitches.. Thickness. I describe how I see the graphic equalizer in my head, I either see thinner layers which make a much sharper voice or I see many layers which thicken the voice, which I feel is different to how deep the voice is.

Sounds have more than just pitch, base and  tone just like we have more than a heart, lungs and Brain.

I'm sorry for being slow on that one, but what is it that you are exactly saying?  :confused:

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Ask yourself: being the clever businessman that MJ is, he had George Lopez put his assets into a trust to protect it wholeheartedly. Noone else but MJ can own his assets. Only administration can change. Why would he NOT use a trust fully knowing he is surrounded by sharks that would strip him of all assets any second he doesn't look? Brancas' move is another smoke screen to make the mass believe something that isn't.

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TMZ Articles / Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
« on: June 25, 2012, 04:09:24 AM »
The actor up for two different performances:

"CM, we'll now do a shot of you being emotional and then we'll do another one thanking your supporters, ok?"

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