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^^ For real. Totally agree...hysterical!

And there's no way Michael died from a scalp burn. That was funny though. Thanks!  :lol:

Just some server issues, according to a post on their site.

I've never believed the whole Michael-turned-Muslim thing. I'm sure that being the well-read person he is that he was interested in the Muslim faith at one time, just as he has interest in many other things. It was an intellectual interest, and nothing more, in my opinion.

If Michael is dead, I would never believe, ever, that the family is involved. They aren't making any money off of the "death," at least not directly through the Estate. And even though Jermaine does annoy a lot of people and does appear at times to have been jealous of Michael, that doesn't mean he's capable of participating in a murder plot. There is renewed interest in the Jacksons, especially the brothers, since Michael's "death," but that still pales in comparison to Michael's ongoing and even growing popularity. There will never be demand for them the way there was for Michael. And they had a better chance of making money off him before his "death" than after...because then there was always the chance of doing a show with him or something else of that sort. Michael was the draw, the shining star, the guaranteed money maker if they were to perform together. And they knew that, which is why they were always trying to get Michael to do a J5 show and/or a Jackson Family performance. With his "death," there is no longer that chance; and no matter how much some of them might attach their names with Michael now at any opportunity, they will never get the attention or money or glory that they could have gotten with Michael standing next to them on stage.

So basically, IMO, they had no motive at all to kill their potential gravy train, as they might have seen him. And as goofy as LaToya is, and as greedy as Joe seems to be, and as jealous as Jermaine might be, they are really nothing without a living Michael (or nothing much anyway). And I just don't believe that any one of them is capable of such a horrendous crime against their own brother/son.

could vernon have named rick and / or david stanley or their mother as heirs to his estate?

Vernon didn't name Dee or the Stanley boys in his will. Vernon and Dee separated in 1974 and divorced in 1977. And since after Elvis died the Stanley boys (or at least 2 of them) did little besides try to live off the Presley name, it would have been unlikely for Vernon to even want to leave anything to any of them in his estate.

It's News of the World. That is the lowest form of tabloid trash on the planet. Unreliable.

I do think it's Michael in the photos, but I'm not wanting to argue with anyone who thinks otherwise. Just wanted to  post some other photos of that same day, for anyone wanting to see them.

That logo IS from last year. They didn't do an MJ logo on his birthday this year.

There's no proof the kids are now at the Buckley school. There's no proof that they are going to a private school wse. This story is an example of greedy reporters who made a big juicy story out of it and it doesn't matter if the subject is about (innocent) children.

Does any one live close to the Buckley school? If so why don't you pass by and check if those kids do really go to that school. I would do it if I lived in L.A. Unfortunetaly I don't if they came to school in Montreal I would have gone to check.

It would be virtually impossible for just anyone to pass by and check to see if Michael's kids go to school there. Schools in the U.S. (especially private upscale ones) are very protective of their students ever since 9/11. The schools here where I live, as an example (in a town of about 20K) have only one unlocked door that is accessible from people outside wanting to get in. All visitors must enter through that one entrance and check in at the office and must wear a visitors pass. And these are just public schools in a relatively small town. I'm sure that the Buckley School has very tight security, especially considering the income levels of their students' families, and the amount of tuition they pay $30K per year), and the fact that celebrity kids attend classes there during the day. And the campus is on 19 acres--very large--and it's not on a main road. It's also surrounded by a wooded canyon.

So if they are going to school there, getting visual confirmation of that would be very difficult. And if they are there, the secure surroundings has to be the main reason why that school was chosen.

Glad to help. I actually searched quite awhile last night because I remembered seeing a bigger one, but then couldn't find it and gave up. But today I ran across it totally by accident while I was looking for something else. Happy accident.  :D  Definitely share the pic of your tattoo!

I found one that is quite a bit higher in resolution and in file size:

http://i29.tinypic.com/2rcsch4.jpg

(Once you get to it, click on it to see it full size)

Hope it works for you!

Magical

@Christina Can you please send me the link to that article I want to read more, although the propofol was found in body fluids and they measured the drug level from aqueous humour  already what they want more?  aqueous -humour, the body fluid detects the propofol  level most accurately and can be kept frozen and the slides for histopathology too but there is no use of preserving the blood specially  as the cells break down releasing all the chemical contents including enzymes and electrolytes , for propofol the usual pathway of metabolism is through hydroxylation  and glucuronidation by Cyt P450 system in liver and  bile and finally excreted out through kidneys
Propofol is a water-immiscible oil basically , so is used as an emulsion of a soya oil/propofol mixture in water, this makes it appear as a highly opaque white fluid.

It wasn't an "article," mjj_fan. It was a post in another community by someone in the medical field. And what I have posted is what was said. And since it is not a hoax community I don't want to link to it. My point in referencing it was only in as much as I thought it was relevant to the questions at hand in this thread. :P

Assuming Michael is dead (or even if they just want to preserve the illusion that he is), the logical reason they would ask to test the fluids themselves is because they don't believe the original results are correct. Murray's story all along has been that he didn't give MJ anything that should have killed him. This would be their effort to see if they can prove that with their own testing, which they have a legal right to do. And just as a matter of procedure, they may not have been legally able to make that request until now.

The info below is from another community (NOT a hoax community) from someone in the medical field:

If you cryo-preserve tissue (preserve by freezing), you can get accurate reads on all protein and RNA levels with minimal degradation. If you perfuse tissue (preserve with formaldehyde), you can still get accurate reads on protein levels, but RNA degrades from the warm temperature of the tissue. I've never actually looked for the presence of a drug in tissue I have worked with, but I would assume that, depending on the type of drug we are talking about, you could look for its presence in tissue in the same way. I have never preserved blood samples outside of extracting DNA (which is an extremely stable molecule), so I'm not sure what would need to be done to preserve blood in such a way that nothing in it would degrade. My guess is that all fluids were flash-frozen and will be thawed for repeat molecular testing.

Also, Propofol undergoes oxidative degradation, in the presence of oxygen, and is therefore packaged under nitrogen to eliminate this degradation path.

The autopsy also showed that propofol was found throughout the body--in the blood, urine, bile and brain tissues. But the request to test the fluids is likely nothing more than a media tactic (to influence the jury pool), and/or a means to prolong the trial process.

No, I'm sorry, that's not accurate.

The "old man pic" was shopped from the MJ pic and the stage MJ pic is not the same. You must be a new hoaxer, this was debunked as a possibility about a year ago.

Problem is our data from August 4th to mid December was destroyed so the new hoaxers don't know this stuff.

thks for the response, i knew the pic with him on the stage wasnt the one used, i just posted everything i found on this other site. the only thing i thought was nuts was "original" pic with the old man and medics. How was that pic proven to be Shopped from the MJ ambulance pic ?

if you mean that the second pigc is "ther old man", then i'm sorry you are misstaken.
it was  blurred out by a beliver to proove a point, then it started to circulate and everyone who didnt know this started to belive it was a new original  pic.  Sorry it is not.
you can clearly see the pulsmonitor still in place where the ear should be, and that the ear is  where his eye should be and that the other eye is in place.
This is a comparison i made ..whay back when.... you can see its the same pic that has been blurred...  *sorry*
[youtube:3q6zjag9]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuNkNY9G9Iw[/youtube:3q6zjag9]

I agree with you too. I was one of the first people to email and get a response from the girl who posted that pic on the EMT forum about that photo that she posted. And I posted that info here when I heard back from her. She shopped the photo to disguise Michael's face, because she is a hoax believer and didn't want the folks on that EMT forum to know this. I mean, if they saw MJ's face, of course they are going to say it is a current photo, simply because Michael Jackson is in the picture! She wanted an objective opinion, so it was logical to blur the face in the photo to get it. At that time I posted her info, I also posted a pic of the inside of the 71 ambulance, and it does match the ambulance photo.