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Michael Jackson News / Re: Blackorwhite is not fake PROOF
« on: January 08, 2010, 11:58:52 AM »
I think All Odd Things is a better place to post this stuff because everyone reads that part of the forum. I made another post about the answers of BoW and the questions should be on the same poll in my opinion. And Bow is a female btw. :)

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Other Odd Things / Re: IS THIS A CLUE FOR THE COMEBACK???
« on: January 06, 2010, 07:46:18 PM »
Quote from: "Bellexx"
Is it sure this is a original news video? Could it be a self made video?

It's the video on the main page of "Rock City" so it's original.

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Other Odd Things / Re: IS THIS A CLUE FOR THE COMEBACK???
« on: January 06, 2010, 01:40:47 AM »
Quote from: "Iused2dream"
LiberianGirl - can you edit your original post with a note to others to hit MUTE if they open the article you posted?  I have headphones on & nearly blew my ears out with the ROCK music video at the bottom of the page....scared me to death! :shock:    Not sure what to think of this.  It seems he's just mentioning the collaboration he had with Michael.  I always had a feeling he was going to do something in Vegas but the AEG TII concerts seemed to push him in another direction.  Just my gut feeling tho.  Hmmm...maybe Wishna will get his Wish and Michael will be able to attend.  

sure I can. ohh there's a phone number at the bottom. maybe we should call and ask!
the thing confused me about this is, why they post it now? They refer to a time before TII concerts but why do they publish it on the 5th of January? And if we read btw the lines, there's a COMEBACK of MJ written there. The Biggest Comeback! This is weird and interesting.

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Other Odd Things / Re: WHAT'S THIS ALL ABOUT???
« on: January 05, 2010, 11:45:08 PM »
Quote from: "lynnandsofee"
Hey Guys....look at this video at 54....doesn't this look like the memorial shot.  The Hat man is even there?????????? :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

it is the memorial. the question is why do they publish this story now? can it be a clue for the comeback? :)

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Other Odd Things / IS THIS A CLUE FOR THE COMEBACK???
« on: January 05, 2010, 11:25:36 PM »
OMG can someone pls tell me what this is about?!?! :shock:

Convinced Michael Jackson to return to America after 18 months in exile, moved him back, and worked with him for seven months to create the ‘biggest comeback in the history of entertainment’. The ‘Rock City’ project for the Las Vegas ‘strip’ was to feature Michael Jackson, and for Jackson and Wishna to present other superstar talent alongside discovered ‘stars of tomorrow’. Rockrena and the Rock City Club are now building on this collaboration of Michael Jackson and Jack Wishna.

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Someone pls read and tell me, what this is and why are they publishing it now ?!?

And watch the video!!!!

[youtube:cvl4h6cj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwAoLaadf_Y[/youtube:cvl4h6cj]

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'Rock City Club' To Discover Rock 'Stars of Tomorrow' with Michael Jackson’s Comeback Partner

Rockrena launches ‘Rock City Club’ to discover and promote the best rock artists and bands on the planet for Rock City performances. Will also expose undiscovered talent to the music industry, agents, promoters, managers, Indie labels, major record labels and fans
"What started out as a dream a few years ago when I created 'Rock City' and brought Michael Jackson back to America, is now becoming a reality. I wish he were here to be a part of Rock City and the Rock City Club now" said Jack Wishna

(PRWEB) January 5, 2010 -- Rockrena LLC, the company that is building ‘Rock City’ entertainment facilities in Las Vegas and around the globe, today announced the launch of the Rock City Club as a unique way for undiscovered artists and rock bands to compete for performance contracts at ‘Rock City’, and to be exposed to promoters, record labels, industry veterans and fans.

All rock artists and bands that join the Rock City Club will be submitting their music to our “E-Promoter®” team of experts, and their video will be posted on the Rock City Club website. The “E-Promoter®” team will select from all video submissions those artists and bands that will then be invited to Las Vegas to audition live in front of a panel of legendary music icons, music industry executives, and ‘Star Dealmakers’ with the goal of securing a performance contract to perform in Rock City projects in Las Vegas and around the globe.

In addition, the Rock City Club “E-Promoter®” team affords every rock artist and band joining the Rock City Club an opportunity not found elsewhere. Their music will be critiqued and their talent and marketability assessed. The Rock City Club “E-Promoter®” team will then promote selected artists and bands that they feel have what it takes to be successful in the highly competitive music industry. Rock City Club “E-Promoter®” programs opens doors to industry professionals, agents, promoters, managers, Indie Labels, and Major Record Labels.

The Rock City Club website gets artists and bands music heard by our “super connected” team of industry professionals and fans across the globe. The Rock City Club mission is to give every one of our members a shot at a performance, recording, management or promotion contract… with many of the club member rock artists and bands making it all the way to Las Vegas to perform in front of music industry powerbrokers. Rock City Club will discover the ‘stars of tomorrow today’ through the Rock City Club.

The Rock City Club was developed by a team of industry experts including Brian Silver, Ofek Hayon and the
President and CEO of ROCKRENA Jack Wishna, a leading entrepreneur credited with conceiving and creating some of the most successful and media intense deals in history, including:

- Convinced Michael Jackson to return to America after 18 months in exile, moved him back, and worked with him for seven months to create the ‘biggest comeback in the history of entertainment’. The ‘Rock City’ project for the Las Vegas ‘strip’ was to feature Michael Jackson, and for Jackson and Wishna to present other superstar talent alongside discovered ‘stars of tomorrow’. Rockrena and the Rock City Club are now building on this collaboration of Michael Jackson and Jack Wishna.

- Created Wayne Newton’s contract with The Stardust Resort & Casino, which at $250 million dollars was the largest entertainment contract in Las Vegas history. Wishna is known as the creator of the ‘headliner in residence’ that started with Wayne Newton, and was duplicated by Celine Dion, Danny Gans, Elton John, Garth Brooks and Barry Manilow.

- Brought Donald J. Trump to Las Vegas in a high-profile celebrity deal creating the Trump International Hotel & Towers. The Trump International now stands as the tallest super-luxury residential structure on the Las Vegas Strip with combined sales exceeding $1.3 billion. In addition to Donald J. Trump, Wishna brought international attention to this project through Wishna’s connections to such celebrities as Britney Spears, Michael Flatley, and Michael Jackson.

- Created ‘Rock City’ as part of Rockrena, a global reaching entertainment company. ‘Rock City’ is designed to bring the ultimate music experience to the marketplace through multiple projects that will be developed and operated around the globe. Each project will use rock music’s living legends as anchor acts working alongside the ‘stars of tomorrow’, who are identified through Rock City Club’s worldwide search to discover and promote the best ‘new talent’ on the planet.

Press and Media Inquiries:
Attention: Brian Silver .
Sr. Vice President
Phone: (702) 300-4223

Rock City Club, LLC.
West Coast Regional Headquarters
4727 Wilshire Blvd, Suite 601-250
Los Angeles, CA 90010

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HE'S THE HOTTEST! Ahhh I missed him so badly.

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I HATE THEM ALL  :evil:   :evil:   :evil:

The Main Players in the Michael Jackson Case

Sneddon and the Chandlers

(1) District Attorney Tom Sneddon, who attempted to bring charges against Michael Jackson in 1993 and who is now prosecuting the current case against Jackson, is on the faculty at the Santa Barbara College of Law. Ray Chandler, (2-3) the uncle of the boy who accused Jackson of sexual abuse in 1993, studied law at the Santa Barbara College of Law and is currently a real estate lawyer.

(4) Dave Schwartz, the stepfather of Jacksons first accuser, is the founder of Rent-a-Wreck, a car rental agency that is represented by the public relations firm Tellem. After Jackson was arrested in 2003, Tellem offered Tom Sneddon their services - for free.

The Chandlers Former Attorneys and their Ability to Find Victims

(5) Civil lawyer Larry Feldman represented Jordan Chandler, the boy who accused Michael Jackson of sexual abuse in 1993. (6) Feldman sent Jordan Chandler to see psychiatrist Stan Katz for an evaluation.

(7) In 1993, Jackson's former maid Blanca Francia was deposed by civil lawyer Larry Feldman for the Chandlers' lawsuit. In the deposition, Francia claimed to have seen Jackson act inappropriately with other children, including her own son. She later recanted these statements but members of the District Attorney's office often refer to Francia's son as an alleged victim of Jackson's.

(8) After getting in contact with Larry Feldman, John Arvizo accused Michael Jackson of sexual abuse; the boy was then sent to see Dr. Katz (9). Note that less than four months earlier John Arvizo and his family had vehemently defended Jackson on numerous occasions.

Feldman is not the only former attorney for the Chandlers who cant seem to stay away from the Jackson case. (10) The Chandlers' first attorney Gloria Allred has also made it her life mission to seek out other accusers. We're sure her efforts are solely motivated by justice and have nothing to do with the cut of the settlement that she would inevitably receive if one of her clients were to successfully sue Jackson.

(11) In February 2003, after seeing a documentary that put a sinister spin on Jackson's relationship with John Arvizo, Gloria Allred contacted Tom Sneddon and demanded that he investigate Jackson. At the same time, media psychiatrist Carole Lieberman also filed a complaint against Jackson. Sneddon responded to Allred and Lieberman's complaints by stating that although he would take the matter seriously, he could not reopen the Jackson case without a cooperative victim.

Months later, John Arvizo told Larry Feldman that Michael Jackson sexually abused him. Once again, Allred missed out on the opportunity to represent a Jackson accuser. As for Lieberman, she made sure to advertise on her website that she was the first psychiatrist to demand that Jackson be investigated.

(12) Not to be one upped by Feldman and Katz, Allred and Lieberman teamed up on another collaboration  an accuser named Daniel Kapone. After being treated by Dr. Lieberman, Kapone suddenly remembered having been abused by Jackson when he was just three years old. Once Lieberman helped him recover his repressed memories, Allred signed on as his attorney. Unfortunately for Allred and Lieberman, it was later determined that Kapone had never even met Michael Jackson.

1993: The Media

(13) During the 1993 case, many of Jackson's former employees cashed in on the allegations by selling salacious stories to the media. The most visible opportunist from the 1993 case was the aforementioned Blanca Francia, Jackson's former maid. She first sold her story to Diane Dimond during an interview on Hard Copy and later collaborated with Chilean journalist Victor Gutierrez on his book Michael Jackson was my Lover.

(14) Aside from providing Blanca Francia with a platform for her sensational stories, Gutierrez and Dimond had something else in common; they were both were sued by Jackson for spreading a false story about him in the mid-90s. During an interview on Hard Copy, Gutierrez claimed to have seen a videotape of Jackson molesting one of his nephews; Dimond later repeated his story on a local radio station. It was eventually proven that no such tape existed and Jackson filed a lawsuit against Gutierrez and Dimond for defamation of character.

2003: The Media

While the mainstream media has been collectively irresponsible in their coverage of the Jackson case, NBC seems particularly intent on ruining Jacksons reputation by hiring several well-known Jackson detractors to cover the case. The following people either have an axe to grind with Jackson, have spread false rumours about him in the past or have connections to the Santa Barbara District Attorneys office. Take a look:

(15) Despite the fact that Jackson sued her for spreading an irrefutably false story about him, NBC hired Diane Dimond to cover the Jackson case in 2003. (16) Dimond also admittedly receives information from the District Attorney's office and there has been much speculation regarding the nature of her relationship with Tom Sneddon.

(17) Tim Russert, the senior vice president of NBC News, is married to Maureen Orth, a journalist who has written three slanderous articles about Jackson for Vanity Fair magazine. Two of these articles were written about the case and were full of half-truths and rumours.

(18) NBC hired Jim Thomas as a special analyst; Jim Thomas is admittedly good friends with Tom Sneddon.

(19) NBC produced two salacious Dateline NBC specials about the Jackson case. The most recent one featured interviews with Jim Thomas and Ray Chandler and was heavily slanted in favour of the prosecutions version of events. (20) The special was produced by none other than Victor Gutierrez, who was hired by NBC to cover the Jackson case even though he still owes Jackson $2.7 million dollars from a defamation of character lawsuit that Jackson filed and won against him. Conflict of interest anyone?

Gutierrez and the Chandlers

(21) Many have speculated that Victor Gutierrez collaborated with Evan Chandler, the father of Jackson's first accuser, to write Michael Jackson was my Lover. The book contains personal photographs of Jordan Chandler and court documents that only somebody directly involved in the case could possibly have access to.

(15) Victor Gutierrez and Ray Chandler recently worked together on the Dateline NBC special, which Gutierrez produced.

Conclusion Is it merely a coincidence that all of the people who have accused Michael Jackson of acting inappropriately with a child are connected to one another? Every accuser, every professional who has worked with each accuser, every tabloid hack who has reported negative stories about Jackson - literally all of the players involved in both the 1993 case and the 2003 case are related to one another.

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Other Odd Things / Re: Kenny Ortega Tweet 04/01/09
« on: January 04, 2010, 10:36:45 PM »
Quote from: "roxy101"
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"



He could write something else but he chose to write "eventful first week" and why FIRST WEEK only? I don't know but it seemed like something to me :)

yes I get that but the poster said that the correct word should have been "UNeventful"
and I was stating that saying uneventful would in fact be weirder lol...

I know I got that but why would he need to use "eventful" or "uneventful" in a New Year message? English is not my native language but I've never got a NY message like that before. That's what I'm trying to say :) But of course it can be something normal. Just seemed like something to me :)

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Other Odd Things / Re: Important Clues from an Italian Forum
« on: January 04, 2010, 10:34:03 PM »
Quote from: "hesouttamylife"
Liberiangirl, I am totally confused, lol.  I hope they are not one and the same :(

I don't know but I think she's talking about BOW. She's italian too and BOW writes on an italian forum and she's a journalist.

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Other Odd Things / Re: Kenny Ortega Tweet 04/01/09
« on: January 04, 2010, 09:24:54 PM »
Quote from: "roxy101"
Quote from: "Debbie Zebua"
Quote from: "roxy101"
I don't know why saying "eventful" instead of "uneventful" is a weird thing.

I don't understand what you mean.

Had he said "uneventful" then that would be VERY weird because he'd basically be wishing us a very boring year.

and months are usually capitalized but who knows...

Yeah, I thought so too
Whats so weird about it
Maybe just my English
But I'm still wondering though

Yea there's nothing weird about the "eventful" thing.
Maybe with "May" but certainly not the word choice.
I think there was just confusion on the poster's part on what KO meant.

He could write something else but he chose to write "eventful first week" and why FIRST WEEK only? I don't know but it seemed like something to me :)

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Other Odd Things / Re: Who Did It?
« on: January 04, 2010, 09:15:52 PM »
Maybe Michael did. As a New Year gift to us :D

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Other Odd Things / Re: Kenny Ortega Tweet 04/01/09
« on: January 04, 2010, 07:20:52 PM »
I always thought that Kenny has been giving us clues. I think this is one of them too.
"Eventful" could refer to the song and probably to the new webpages etc. And that "MAY" is interesting too. I liked the message  :D

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Other Odd Things / Re: Important Clues from an Italian Forum
« on: January 04, 2010, 07:02:43 PM »
Quote from: "mitm"
Quote from: "hesouttamylife"
Quote from: "mitm"
I am an Italian fan,
 this discussion with this reporter is going, she says that with the disappearance of Michael did not have to do Illuminati or escape of Michael from the stress, but a serious and imminent danger of death linked to the concerts in London and everything would be concentrated in the months after the announcement at a press conference. Michael will return in 2010. She is very kind and answer to everybody’s questions.he’s now doing well. Manages to be in contact with his children. His family obviously  knows the truth. everything has developed in a few months. Not years .Michael was willing to do all the show in London
Forgive my english....

Will you inquire to your friend if this had any linkage to Jane Burgenmeister.  I would certainly appreciate her answer.

there is no linkage to Jane Burgermeister..and she is not my friend, but only an italian writer..

Are you talking about BlackorWhite?

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Other Odd Things / Re: website michaeljacksonback.com
« on: January 04, 2010, 06:12:55 PM »
Quote from: "King_Michael"
If this is true I remeber the blackorwhite post about how we will see more things about Michael to the point where he is basically alive to the non believers and now all of these sites are popping up, it would be suspicious if it was one but now another one has surfaced either this is a sick joke or there is some truth behind it, but sadly we have to wait and see good thing we are all on this journey together :D

I agree. Suddenly we had 3 different people with 3 different stories at the same time and now we're having these pages. Are these all coincidences again? Just like in Michael's "death"? :)

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Other Odd Things / Re: Very interesting picture!
« on: January 04, 2010, 04:43:06 PM »
I have no idea who made this one but it seemed weird to me with the film characters. And there's the RABBIT again and next to Rabbit, is that Peter Pan? The hat looks like it. Jeff Bridges is there with his film Big Lebowski, Fredy Mercury, the one with the mask is Jason. It's weird  :shock:

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