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« on: February 02, 2010, 07:27:40 PM »
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Yes indeed,if the come out someday(I really hope so)we're at least going to be taken seriously ! Just imagine a movie about Michael and the fans,and the hoax ! That would be so cool  Seriously,I think that's a little victory for us. Does someone has Direct8 here ? If you have and understand french you should watch if you can. There is also a youtube channel,and they seem to "stream" direct on their website,I dunno if it's work tough. And they didn't call us names ! they were being very cautious and weren't showing that they believed it but they described the facts quite correctly and they're going to show Hatman,and probably Blonde Lady,because it's about the Memorial tomorrow.I don't know for you,but that the medias would take such risk to be ridiculous and taken for nuts,it mean they are doubting something. They wouldn't do it if that was not the case.
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« on: February 02, 2010, 06:57:21 PM »
Sorry if someone french already posted it.I'll delete it if it's the case
Everyone I don't know if it's amazing for you,but for me it was !
At least our voices are heard : Direct8 launched a one-week "special" about the fans and the Hoax in they daily "24h People"
For the one living in France it's like 50mn inside,it's a television programm about "People" and show-bizz lastest news.
Nothing big and news : they covered today about the ambulance picture,the 911 call,the film theory,Ben Evanstead and his relationship with Michael.
Tomorrow they're gonna talk about the Hatman everyone !
The content isn't really important,because we already know about it,the message and the gesture is !
Of course it's still done in a cautious way : it's how journalism work,if they're being too biased they're gonna be bashed by others journalist or their mouth could be shut.If they were too biased they could be taken for nuts and could lose audience too.
But the fact that they followed us that much and that producers allowed this to go on TV
That's definitely good for us !
Media are beginning to notice as we already think.
I tired to search for "rediffusion" because I wanted so bad to show it to you all,because that's sorta a victory for us,even tough it's in French but I didn't find it
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« on: February 01, 2010, 06:54:30 AM »
I think it's a staged picture which was taken some day before, they must have rehearsed the "death" So whoever took it must be in the hoax anyways.
Christopher Weiss...that's Ben said indeed,does anyone has a picture of this guy ?If we have we can compare it to the guy in the ambulance video.
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« on: February 01, 2010, 06:51:56 AM »
What?? OUR Conrad Murray?? Yeah,are you talking about THE Conrad Murray ? The one we know ? But wouldn't that be found out if they changed his pic to a white man ? People would have found out and talk abut it by now
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« on: February 01, 2010, 06:46:44 AM »
Yeah I agree they wouldn't admit it,or they would accuse the Jacksons of being liars or anything else.Because they wouldn't let themselves be ruined.
I think that's BS , and we haven't heard about it somewhere else since then,right ?
If that was true there would have been an official statement from the family or an official.
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« on: January 30, 2010, 05:13:26 AM »
You heard the video ?you see, It's not a valid argument to say that it's not him because of the voice ! Because anyone can change his voice to extremely high to extremely high and he is a genius so he can probably do it better.
That's a bit unrelated but it probablu him on O2 as well,many are doubting it but...As you heard he can impersonate voice and he is good at disguise and imitating people too (it has already been proven before)so saying it's not him because of mannerisms an voice...well
And this applies to DD too of course !Have you seen last MJFanForeverAndADay ?
It's all about Dave Dave,it's point we've seen before but it's interesting.
She pose her theory as to why he would have done it on the day of his funeral particulary.
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« on: January 27, 2010, 01:02:28 PM »
If that person really exist that is...Because the more we find things on him,the more it's getting weird and unbelievable...Did you see this topic ? You are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginOver there Butterfly posted a a link where she found the supposed "real" Conrad Murray...and he is white ! I don't know if we were duped but if it's true... You are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginHere is the direct link ! And even if let's say he is real.If Michael didn't hoax his death,I really hope they're going to make him rot in jail !So I totally agree with you !
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« on: January 27, 2010, 12:59:23 PM »
@Grenat: I know, you´re looking for proof... but if you ask me what I believe, I`m honest - and I think it´s fake.
Why? Seriously - would you subject your children to the pressure of a speculating public in that situation not to mention the tabloid press, which is lurking for every private word to quote? Well, I wouldn´t.... I for one really don´t think that the children are exploided as "clue givers" on Twitter. I´d rather follow Kenny & the This is it Crew... they´re real and very likely in best knowledge Yeah I think too that they wouldn't do this that's why they said it's fake maybe : so that we won't bother them,because we would think it's fake we wouldn't follow them,that's my point.This way they're protected from us and the journalists. But it's likely that you're right and that their account doesn't exist.It's just we never can be sure of anything with internet. And I also agree that we should follow the grown-up,like Kenny,The Jacksons Not bother his poor children.
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« on: January 26, 2010, 06:30:08 PM »
I just saw the article on TMZ ! That doesn't seem to be big deal...if you're a non-believer that is ! The most puzzling sentence is this one : Michael Jackson is back ... at least according to a Ticketmaster email. How is it possible to someone who is dead to be back ? If TMZ wasn't in this they wouldn't have picked the story and anyone who is in his right mind wouldn't write it like this !I I mean if he is really dead what's the purpose of making a big deal of something like this ? Big Clue definitely ! And the Conrad Murray picture you posted...Is that for real ? The problem is if it's true...then why anyone hasn't mentionned it ? That's the kind of thing they would have found out right away...And if it's true,then who is the Conrad Murray we know ? And I like to read the commentaries below each article...and the one below the "he is back" one are weird...It maybe doesn't mean anything but. 9. I got that email and laughed!!! I thought, "Isn't he dead?"
Posted at 2:10AM on Jan 26th 2010 by jk2323 This one looks normal 11. Regardless of this laser show BS....the little moron is still alive.
MICHAEL J. JACKSON LIVES! The little manipulating con artist.
Posted at 2:14AM on Jan 26th 2010 by Tellitlikeitis This one is mean...so that's not someone who is interested in Michael And he believe in the hoax  And there are lot of believers over there..However they pass time fighting with haters.
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« on: January 26, 2010, 06:16:01 PM »
GwenMadlyn that's a good post ! resuming everything.
I haven't tought that the episode could be directed to the hoaxers...
And just to add one thing to all that weirdness,that MJFanForeverAndADay said in her video : the fountain is the Hollywood's one,not the Glendale's one.I believe she mention it in her 32th video.
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« on: January 26, 2010, 05:54:48 PM »
Well it's possible that if that if Michael was really d**** (if it was the case)it would be possible that the guy tagging him could talk about it to a friend(even if they aren't allowed to talk about it normally)because that's a friend and you talk about your work,right ?
But well...that can be made up pretty easily and sorry without proof(and that is not a proof) we shouldn't believe it easily.
And it go into the other way too : we shouldn't believe easily people who claim to know about it him being alive really easily.
I like myself to read about "insiders" and to try to make my opinion on it,because who know after all ? maybe they really know something.
But we should only focus on real proofs and our own opinions of it.
Let's not get distracted by non-believers,it could be an hater after all.
And you know that there are sickos who could make up a story like this just imagining the panic and the distress of fans when reading about it.
I don't know if it's true or not(we suppose it's not but there is always the "maybe" part)
If it's not true he has his goal : he hurted someone ! don't let him hurt you like this...
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« on: January 26, 2010, 11:07:35 AM »
That will just prove the guy who died the 25th of June wasn't Michael Jackson or,
that will show the ambulance photo was a fake! Does the guy in the ambulance look like an old Asian guy? Does MJ look Asian or old in TII? I believe that the guy who was being tagged was another person. Please, don't panic! We didn't believe he was dead at the memorial, we didn't believe MJ was dead at the funeral, we haven't believed the family's tears. Why should we believe someone from the internet claiming that "he knows the person who tagged MJ' s toe? That's what I wanted to say but I didn't know how to use the word I agree with you ! We didn't believe Paris's speech,the family statement,the coroner statement in front of journalist,the memorial,the funeral, We don't believe in anything the family/friend say about it,yet we always believe some troll coming on internet.Maybe he isn't a troll but there is nothing proving he isn't ! He could be a hater who doesn't know anything and don't care about our feelings at all ! And for sure Michael looked really good in TII definitely not a old asian guy ! And anyone know that Michael is extremely thin these later years ! it doesn't prove anything.
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« on: January 26, 2010, 11:02:21 AM »
Honestly, I have my doubts... would the "real one" have conversations with an obviously fake Paris-account? Maybe the Paris's one isn't fake..they told us that to not bother her..maybe Who told you it was fake ? Do we have real proofs ? I mean maybe it's her real accound but they don't want us to bother her so they said it was fake.. What do you think ? If the Macaulay one is real that's just awesome
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« on: January 26, 2010, 10:53:45 AM »
You shouldn't worry..I think.Because on the others hands,others people have claimed to have seen him/have informations on having him alive(of course lot of them are troll tough)This person could be a troll as well. Remember that on internet you can say anything... Have you seen Craig Harvey's replies to our emails "I've seen the real thing",if you've seen it,did you believe it ? No,if you believed it,you wouldn't be here right ? Believe until we have consistent proof he is indeed dead !that thing the guy said, it's not a proof,anyone can say that kind of thing to scare us.Could be even someone of Michael's camp to scare us a little
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« on: January 26, 2010, 10:44:55 AM »
I asked my uncle because he can read lips really well and is a phycologist, he said that Dave Daves vernacular and pronunciation are extremely similar to that of Michael jackson, and that it is highly possible that it could be michael based on the facial expression and the way he pronounces the letter "S" cause their similar to Michael's Oh that's great and nice of your uncle to have taken his time to analyze this ! It seems to be great results for us,right ? The best of course would have been to be able to prove this by an expert....but well he never answered ! And another thing( a little related),I watched a video by a french believer,and she talked about Dave Dave and how the people that think the LKL's one isn't Michael because the voice isn't exactly the same...In her video she showed 2 phones conversations,in it Michael change his voice completely ! If you want to see it You are not allowed to view links.
Register or Loginthe first one is at 05:14, someone from a radio show attempt to fram him and when he find out he change his voice The second one start at 07:02,he imitate his dad's voice. Of course it doesn't prove anything,but telling it's not DD because the voice sound the same but is a little different...(some people said that) So it's possible that even if the voice isn't quite right it's still Michael on LKL !
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