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Random MJ Talk / ANGRY at Michael.
« on: September 06, 2010, 05:42:15 PM »
Hi.

Having an off day so wanted to write this thread.  Im sure im not the only one to feel and think these things from time to time.

Before you read on, i love Michael and i know all the adversities that he has had in his life and also all the lies, the media slurs,  etc....   I have learnt to read between the lines and take a lot of stuff with a pinch of salt.

I love him and miss him and this year has been so difficult in so many ways.  I cannot let go of the idea of the hoax due to all the evidence which led me here in the first place.

However, there are un-deniable voices in my head which tell me he has died, and i am in denial and that people are playing games with our heads.  Know what i mean?

I think i wont be able to rest until i know the truth and i am hoping that the trial will bring the truth to light.

Thing is.. i have been thinking this lately...

If it turns out to be true that Michael willingly took Propofol that morning...  and that he knew what it was and that he knew the risks...  and that he begged and demanded it...  then i will be so ANGRY with him!

No matter what was wrong with MJ.  No matter what pressures he was under...  no matter how unhappy he was.. if he made that decision knowing the risks then i will be angry as hell.

If its true that the nurse warned him not to take it and showed him a medical book with all the risks in it, and he ignored her.. i will be ANGRY!

Even if Michael didnt care anymore.  If he was depressed and didnt care about himself, or his wider family or his fans or his image, etc....    the three things that should have stopped him taking those drugs are his three children.
Three children now left (effectively) orphaned, confused and alone in a World they have been sheltered from and will be unable to live obscure and normal lives due to the fact they are Michaels children.

Michael knew the pain of a robbed childhood.  He wanted to give his children what he didnt have..  an idyllic and care free childhood.   Now those children have grief and pain and loss to deal with.  Blanket doesnt even know who his mother is.. he is all alone in this.  Makes me mad!!!!

If its true that Prince witnessed Michael being given CPR, then that is a memory and a scar that will last a lifetime.

I worry those children will go off the rails when they are older.  When they fully understand what happened, if they find out their father took extremely dangerous drugs to sleep and left them all alone in the world to cope with the aftermath...  i fear they will go off the rails or fall into despair and depression.

Michael had it all.  He had fame and talent and riches and love..  loved by the world and loved by those three children whom he decided to raise as a lone father.   I will be so god damn ANGRY if it turns out he died and he died needlessly because he demanded drugs.

Im sorry for the rant.. i hope some people here understand.  I think this is part of my grief and struggle to understand what is happening to me and to the World.  Nothing makes sense anymore.

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Other Odd Things / Michael Jacksons Ghost Wants $1 million case solved.
« on: September 05, 2010, 03:13:07 PM »


'Michael Jackson's ghost wants USD 1m theft case solved'

London, Sep 5 : Late King of Pop Michael Jackson's ghostly presence has been felt by friends and family regularly since his death last year.

And now, a psychic has said that the star wouldn't rest until he's battled a string of injustices, including having 1 million dollars stolen from his home on the day he died, reports the Daily Star.

During an hour-long session, celebrity medium Melodie 'spoke' to MJ's ghost.

During the remarkable exchange that followed, the "spirit of Jackson" revealed the cash was stolen from his rented mansion immediately after his death.

At one stage, after meditating silently then apparently making contact with Jackson, she declared: "You can talk to him through me. Ask him anything you want."

Referring to the theft of cash, which he had stashed in unlocked drawers, he named the perpetrator, although for legal reasons we cannot.


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General Hoax Talk / Samantha De Gossen - @100N121
« on: August 30, 2010, 05:41:40 PM »
For anyone thats interested:

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Michael Jackson - Michael Jackson Most Downloaded



Michael Jackson is the most downloaded artist of all time according to Nokia's Ovi Music Store.

Michael Jackson has become the most downloaded artist of all time.

The 'Thriller' singer-who died of acute Propofol intoxication aged 50 last June -is the world's most popular solo star, ahead of Lady Gaga, Elvis, the Black Eyed Peas and Rihanna according to download records from Nokia's Ovi Music Store.

Musicologist Geoff Roberts believes the singer's upcoming birthdate on Sunday (29.08.10) could be responsible for an increase in his popularity

He said: "Michael Jackson has always been a pop music legend. But the anniversary of his death and upcoming birthday celebrations seem to have revived Jackson fever as fans rediscover his songs - making him the most popular solo artist of all time."

The 'King of Pop' - who would have turned 52 this weekend - is most popular in India where he accounts for 26 per cent of the country's entire Ovi downloads, followed by the UK, Germany, Netherlands and Finland.

Singer's 1982 single 'Beat It' is the most popular track at the Ovi store, with 'Billie Jean' and 'Thriller' close behind.

Meanwhile Michael's hometown of Gary, Indiana, will mark his birthday with a party outside his childhood home tomorrow (28.08.10).

The party will take place alongside a separate four-day 'MJFanvention' which began in the town yesterday (26.08.10).

The main attraction at the fan event will be a special tribute concert on Saturday, featuring Tony Award-winner Melba Moore and the late singer's former tour guitarist Jennifer Batten, as well as impersonator Edward Moss and a choir of Indiana residents.

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Frank Dileo / DILEO organised Concert Dates for MJ in Caribbean?? wth?
« on: August 25, 2010, 04:03:05 PM »

Concert promoter Citadel Limited Tuesday has sued Michael Jackson's former manager Frank DiLeo, RadarOnline.com has learned, on accusations the King of Pop's manager kept $300,000 the company paid as a fee for performances the late entertainer was slated to make in Trinidad and Tobago months after his June 2009 death.

DiLeo and a number of associates are named in the suit, which was filed in Los Angeles on August 24. Citadel Limited claims that DiLeo or his associates, personally accepted the fees, which Citadel Limited paid via wire from April 2009 through June 2009.

Sadly, Michael Jackson died weeks later on June 25, 2009 after suffering a sudden cardiac arrest in Los Angeles.

According to Citadel Limited, the contract stated: "If there is a cancellation due to any circumstances that are beyond the control of the Artist, Company, or Purchaser, a make-up date will be discussed for the canceled events or full refund will be issued if acceptable date is not agreed upon."

Citadel Limited said that DiLeo has "refused, and continue to refuse" to repay the $300,000.

Stay with RadarOnline.com for more updates on this story as it happens.


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Star feared he had heart condition, cancer and brain tumour
ILLNESS FEARS: Michael Jackson


By James Desborough, US Editor, 22/08/2010

PARANOID Michael Jackson believed he suffered heart attacks and had cancer and brain tumours in the six months before he died.

The hypochondriac King of Pop even thought he had HYPOTHERMIA and FROSTBITE - in sunny Los Angeles.

But his delusions were caused by his mind and body being ravaged by his addiction to prescription drugs and painkillers, according to aides.

One said: "He was a mental wreck and always felt he had a disease. He was terrified of the sun as it irritated his vitiligo (skin condition) prompting him to claim he had cancer and brain tumours.

"At other times he said he was freezing cold and might have frostbite. On reflection his body and mind were just wrecked by drug use."

Jacko also complained of suffering heart attacks leading up to his death in June last year. That's why he hired cardiologist Conrad Murray, who appears in a US court tomorrow charged with involuntary manslaughter as the case nears trial.

Murray's defence will argue Jacko hid the full extent of his pill-popping from him. But today we can reveal family friend and prosecution witness Terry Harvey will challenge this.

Terry, who first told the world that Jacko's death at 50 was from an overdose of painkiller Propofol, said: "I discovered Murray knew about Michael's drug problems for a long time.

"Michael was a drug-addicted wreck and complained for months about being too ill to perform his shows."

Terry, 50, who uncovered the revelations while researching for his book The KIlling Of The KIng Of Pop, added: "I expect at Murray's trial all those secret things I have discovered will come to the fore."

Jacko's skin specialist Arnold Klein will also claim Murray was aware of the singer's drug intake. He gave Jacko regular jabs of the painkiller Demerol for face fillers and Murray even booked Jacko's appointments.

Another source added: "If you are hired as a round-the-clock medic your job is to know what your patient is taking."

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General Hoax Talk / MJ Bodyguards FB Status
« on: August 14, 2010, 03:14:31 PM »
This is their status on FB:

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Goodafternoon Mr Jackson; Bj,BILL,and Mike want to say that u have the best fans in the world and it is a honor to Bj,Bill,and Mike to be apart of all these lovely people from all walks of life we wont let ur memory die and i vow that Me,Bill,and Mike will take care of them cause we all know your watching us we love you Mr Jackson.....

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Michael Jackson News / MJ's Black Glove Goes up for Auction
« on: August 12, 2010, 04:05:01 PM »


Coming this October 9th, some of the most unusual possessions of some of the hottest celebrities will be auctioned in mainland China.


KYW’s Bob Nelson notes that     China  may seem far removed for this sort of auction, but two major entertainment figures — Madonna and Michael Jackson — are two of the celebrities whose items are being sold.

Darren Julien, of the auction house holding the event, mentions one of Jackson’s possessions to be auctioned:

“We have a black glove, which is very rare.  It was a glove that Michael Jackson wore to promote the ‘History’ tour, and it’s actually on the trailer that you can see of the video.”




And Julien expects some high prices:

“Anything to do with Michael Jackson is highly publicized.  His fan base is unlike any other celebrity around the world.”

Jackson’s crystal-studded white glove fetched $16,000 in an auction last June.


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Karen Faye / Letter from Michael? Karen responds.
« on: August 10, 2010, 04:52:40 PM »
Someone asked Karen in twitter about this letter:



Why did you take away your love, the same love that made me unable to speak and made me forget my manners, the love that saved me?
Tell me, did I come to short? Wasn't I enough? Have I done or said something wrong?
I believe in miracles and (black line) angels. I know you escaped through heaven's gates to enlighten me.
I believe in faith, deep inside I feel that nature has bounded us.
I have seen nothing but misery in my life until (black line)
All those years I have been seeking to give while I only desire now to receive from you.
Your heart commanded me to follow while my soul was hurt and my mind confused.
I allowed you to take possesion of my feelings. In return, I loved, obeyed and honoured you beyond words.
I revealed myself to you in ways from which I thought they were impossible.
I saw and still see you as my soulmate, as my wife and as the mother of my fourth child.


This was her response:


# wingheart
 
Re:letter. If authentic, it is none of our business. If fake, who cares? about 5 hours ago via Twitterrific

   
# wingheart
 
@popcorncandys it appears to be similar to his handwriting, but I have no way of authenticating for you.

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According to another forum, (copy and paste - i dont have the link to the article or where this article has come from:

it's a newspaper article, claiming to have spoken with a previous girlfriend of Michael, who could "prove" this with a love letter
The title is We're getting the facts right. Is this the prove that J**o was not gay?
Former girlfriend shows proof.

The writer asks why she comes forward while she wants to remain anonymous.
She tells she is tired of the lies and the filthy press. She wants the world to see and know Michael for who he really was. She is not looking for publicity or money.
She tells he always was a loving person, very sweet, always concerned, nervous type, cared for and wanted to save the entire world.
She refused to answer to intimate questions concerning their relationship, if they had sex etc.
She says people who accused him from all these bad things should go straight to prison or hell.
She says they broke him, hurt him so much, he was lost when she met him the first time. He feared to trust.
She also tells about how much he loved the fans, how much they meant to Michael, how much he talked about the fans and how he missed the fans during the years he was gone. Then she talks about Michael and children, that he lived for children. There is also a part about Neverland. She never went there. She never asked Michael to go there with her. She did view pictures of Neverland from before the accusations.

That is the article in short. No much news.
Next weekend is part 2 of the story and they promise the continue of the letter!
At the end it says that the lady refused money for the interview and her name and intimate details in the letter have been removed to keep her anonymity.

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Michael Jackson wanted to make an $85m mansion his new Neverland - but was too broke to afford it.

A multi-millionaire property developer has revealed that the late King of Pop pleaded with him for a special deal on the property in the hills of LA's exclusive Bel Air neighbourhood.

Mohamed Hadid told how Jackson "didn't have any money" but promised him: "I'll give you this, I'll give you that."

But Hadid turned down the King of Pop and instead suggested he rent the Holmby Hills mansion, where Jackson fatally overdosed last year.

He told Angeleno magazine how Jackson was desperate to buy the mansion in 2008 after staying there for two nights as Hadid's guest.

The three-storey, 48,000 square feet mansion has 10 bedrooms, a 130-foot private gallery, a 200-seat ballroom, a 70-foot infinity pool, a Turkish hammam and enough parking for 20 cars.

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Michael Jackson News / For Sale sign at Carolwood.
« on: August 08, 2010, 02:58:42 PM »
Found this on twitter here:

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Will.I.Am / Will.i.Am is not happy!
« on: August 03, 2010, 10:09:32 AM »
Michael Jackson friend and collaborator will.i.am doesn't support new album

By NEKESA MUMBI MOODY , Associated Press

Last update: August 3, 2010 - 9:31 AM

NEW YORK - A new Michael Jackson album is expected by the end of the year, culled from unreleased material in his vaults. But Jackson collaborator and Black Eyed Peas frontman will.i.am is vehemently opposed to the idea.

"I don't think that should ever come out. That's bad," he said. "He was a perfectionist and he wouldn't have wanted it that way. How you gonna release Michael Jackson when Michael Jackson ain't here to bless it?"

Will.i.am collaborated with Jackson on the rerelease of "Thriller" in 2008 with remixed versions of some of the album's classic songs. He said Jackson was very particular about all aspects of his musical productions, from his vocals to arrangements to instrumentation.

"Now that he is not part of the process, what are they doing? Why would you put a record out like that? Because he was a friend of mine, I just think that's disrespectful," he said. "What's wrong with what he already contributed to the world?"

The Jackson estate did not respond to a request for comment.

When asked about the high demand for any new Jackson music, will.i.am replied: "So what? You don't disrespect someone when they're gone. ... How much can you suck from his energy? ... Freaking parasites!"

Not much is known about what will be on the album, but Michael's brother Jackie has said he and brother Marlon were working on the record with John McClain, Jackson's former manager and executor of his estate.

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FROZEN IN TIME: A Riveting Behind-the-Scenes View of the Michael Jackson Cases

09/15/2010

Presented by: Senior Lawyers Division

Co-Sponsored by: Criminal Justice Section

Program Information:
A fascinating historical and legal analysis of the Michael Jackson civil and criminal cases will be provided by the participants.

The judge, Honorable Rodney Melville (Retired); the prosecutor, Deputy District Attorney Ronald Zonen; defense attorney Thomas A. Mesereau, Jr. who represented Jackson in the Santa Barbara criminal trial; attorney Larry Feldman who represented the alleged victim in the civil case; attorney Carl E. Douglas who represented Jackson in the criminal investigation of the civil case; and moderator Seth Hufstedler will offer insights into these highly publicized and very unique examples of California celebrity cases.

Speakers:
Carl E. Douglas, The Douglas Law Group
Larry R. Feldman, Kaye Scholer LLP
Seth M. Hufstedler, Morrison & Foerster LLP
Hon. Rodney Melville (Retired)
Thomas A. Mesereau Jr., Mesereau & Yu LLP
Ronald J. Zonen, Santa Barbara Deputy District Attorney

Location:
Los Angeles County Bar Association
1055 West 7th Street, 27th Floor
Los Angeles, CA 90017

Room: La Fig: La Brea/La Cienega/Figueroa Conference Room

Parking:
1055 W. 7th Street: $5 with validation (entering after 5:00 p.m.);
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3.25 hrs CLE credit

Registration Code: 010981

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Ive just found this information on "Southern California Fans" facebook site here:

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To quote what they say:

JUST REPORTED FROM A FRIEND... Forest Lawn has put up a huge black gate in front of his crypt. INSIDE directly in front of the crypt from one end to the other, and so tall it blocks most of the stained glass window. They keep trying to separate us. Imagine how Michael feels! Away from LOVE. Nature. Life


also this:

Lisa Burks
here is what i know, which is very little: i was alerted late Friday by a FL visitor with legitimate access to the GM that they saw a big black curtain strung across the Ascension Sanctuary area and that a security guard was at the HT door,... inside. they did not speak to him. they described it to me as a big black curtain, not a gate.


and this:

Patricia A Hetrick  hi everyone just making sure everyone knows that the wall at FL in front of Michael is tempory. Something going on this week and they dont want pictures of Michael taken.

Now.. why have they done this?  We can speculate why...  

are they moving his coffin>???   Are they finally engraving his name onto the stone??  Why erect such a thing to block everyones view of it?

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Other Odd Things / Landscape Stones from NEVERLAND are up for sale???
« on: July 27, 2010, 07:24:40 PM »
Mmm...  check this out.  This is just bizarre:


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Last year after Michael Jackson passed away, thousands and thousands of people from around the world came to visit Neverland to pay their final respects to the King of Pop.  I was one of them.  One of the things that a lot of the fans did was to write "good-bye" messages on some of the landscape tiles that surrounded the entrance and gate to Neverland.

When I talked to the security guards that were posted there, they said that those landscape tiles were going to have to be removed and new ones put in, because technically Michael Jackson didn't even own Neverland at the time of his death (it was in foreclosure, pending a possible new deal with some investors).

The security guards ended up giving me 3 of the landscape tiles, and a handful of roses from the beautiful wreath on the gate into Neverland.  Up for auction is one of these tiles.  This one reads "God Bless you, Michael Jackson.  Rest in peace.  Marge and Lydia, Texas, 07/09".

Don't miss out on the once in a lifetime opportunity.  Most people say that Neverland is eventually going to be turned into a winery, and so, there may never be another chance to obtain very unique items like this ever again.

Shipping is $9.95 in the US.  I will ship internationally, but check with me first for rates before bidding.


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