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TIAI & TS Discussions / I just don't get it/What am I missing?
« on: June 29, 2010, 04:13:11 PM »
I wasn't sure where to post this so If I put it in the wrong forum, sorry

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But I realize not everyone on the forum believes in TS or the hoax theory,...


Hi I wanted to use this quote just to comment on something I've been wonderging about...


First let me say I believe MJ is alive not because of this website or TS(I don't really care who TS is-no disrespect meant), why I believe MJ is alive doesn't really matter.  I haven't posted here much but have been following along with all the updates.  They are all completely compelling but none, if I was a non-believer would make be believe that MJ was alive or their was a hoax and as a believer I just don't see the connection.  It's been my experience that anyone who is a believer in numerology and it's uses throughout the ages would naturally use numerology in their everyday life, major decisions, personal life and business life etc.   So if MJ believed in numerology then that would naturally be used in decisions throughout his life.  So figuring out a pattern with things he's signed or dates for major events etc would then not be that difficult to figure out if one used numerology.  
So here is where you lose me with the updates and the website.  I've been around for a while now and I don't see the clear connection.  How do we jump from numerology to a link to MJ's "death"    I don't see proof in that, I see Cleverness, ingenuity, Genius a man who wanted to live his life in line with the universe absolutely, but proof...I just don't get it.?!
Secondly for that matter I have not been able to see where the clear connection comes into play that MJ, the new world order and Mind control can be substantially proved to base the whole theory on.  Where did that theory start, what proof is there and where did that proof come from...?  Yes he encountered sinister forces in his life and career, we've heard him elude to this on many occasions, but he also had powerful friends so what am I missing?
I am asking these questions with all sincerity...so any info/answers/discussion would be greatly appreciated :)

thanks for the time
yourtime2shine

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I give a damn! love you

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Quote from: "MJalive999"
Quote from: "yourtime2shine"
Quote from: "MJalive999"
maybe michael being alive is just a theory :)

I hope not cuz If that is true or has any truth to it then his death is being used in a cleverly genius way to manipulate people just like the media or whoever you want to fill in the blank with______.

Of Course i was being ironic, my dear!
I KNOW that michael is alive since the beginning! Neither when the media shook my nerves with ''Music & Me'' or/and ''Ben'' I felt that he was dead.


I know, I was just commenting on the idea of it  :)

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Quote from: "MJalive999"
maybe michael being alive is just a theory :)

I hope not cuz If that is true or has any truth to it then his death is being used in a cleverly genius way to manipulate people just like the media or whoever you want to fill in the blank with______.


My rambling thoughts...
I have to say when I heard MJ died I really thought he died and was saddened for his kids and what this world did to him.  Even though I felt someting wasn't right.  It wasn't until I saw the Movie TII that I left there believing he was alive.  I sat there thinking I can't be the only one noticing these things in this movie.  I left there not only thinking about the movie but also all the odd things I had noticed before Michael "died"  I just figured something had to be off. Shortly after that I happened upon some hoax ideas/videos on the internet and loved that I wasn't the only one thinking this way.  I have to say there is nothing then and nothing now that will convince me that he isn't alive.  No matter what is put out there or not.  
I don't know why Michael would hoax his death and I honestly believe that can only be confirmed  by Michael himself.
So I can understand people's waivering faith and disappointment because over these last few months they have been ardently following and searching for hope and information.  Hoping someone they cared about wasn't done wrong AGAIN while clinging to their hope and unwittingly cradeling their fears.  There are many out there that have heard of the NWO, Illuminati etc and who discuss it often, but for most whether you are trying to uncover a truth or unblock someones eyes they naturally cling to what they know, what makes them feel safe. They can't jump into these ideas quickly. Not when they think of their children or their world being turned upside down or for some, sleeping another peaceful night.  Many if not (unknowingly) all would probably need that confirmation from the man himself in order to start to believe. To hear and know what he's been put through in his own words. If indeed that is the reason.  Even for those who know or believe in the NWO... and all the topics mentioned it is still hard to wrap your mind around all of it. Those who can wrap their mind around it usually do so with anger.  Which is just another clever face of fear.  You can't change anything with fear and it is hard for people to break out of that mode when their idea of life is being threatened. You can't rebuke them for not fully believing that is the reason Michael did this.  Just as they can't rebuke you if you believe it is why he did it, because we each have our own beliefs.   I'm not sure that I believe Michaels idea behind the hoax is all that is mentioned in the TIAI reveals..honestly that is hard to fathom.  One man taking on all that...God Bless him because that burden must be overwhelming.   It's not only, that but I don't believe in the end of the world nor do I fear it. I have alot of hope for this world it's people and it's choices.  I have faith, but am still not blind to all that goes on in this world.
Do I think it's impossible that all that is mentioned in the TIAI reveals is the reason he did this? Nothing is impossible!  i mean imagine the totality of it, the process, the planning, the stress in the plot to fake ones death it must have a huge toll on ones body, mind and spirit. Will it be worth the climax.  Will it all go well in then end, I hope so.  What I think about the most with Michael, this whole thing and what I wish for any human being is their safety, that they feel loved and important, and they feel supported.  Like I said before I believe he is alive and I support him/that.  Beyond that I'll take it as it comes. <3

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Introduce yourself / Re: Hi Everyone
« on: January 16, 2010, 10:01:36 PM »
Hi AnnieIsNotOK

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Introduce yourself / Re: Hi Everyone
« on: January 15, 2010, 09:35:24 PM »
Quote from: "MJforeverLove"
I have not been around too long. Signed up NYE. So i will say hello as well. Hello:)
Hi MJforever Love and believeNmagic

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Introduce yourself / Re: Hi Everyone
« on: January 14, 2010, 08:33:40 PM »
helloooooo
lol  :D

love ur siggy

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Introduce yourself / Hi Everyone
« on: January 14, 2010, 07:53:31 PM »
Just wanted to pop in here and say hello.  

Hi  :D

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soooo I'm not sure I understand exactly what is meant for us to do... But I'm in,
I'm all for supporting anyone who needs help, love or someone to let them know
they care.  I work on the woman in the mirror by helping those around me.  I volunteered for a children's charity and  worked on special projects and fundraising, I donate items/carepackages to the homeless and elderly in my area and I try to do what I can to keep the environment healthy around me.  I also try to remember the little things that make a huge difference, like a smile or listening when someone needs someone to listen, being kind.  I try to remember to make someone feel like I want to feel... loved and important. I'm not perfect and sometimes I have to make an extra effort to "be good"  :lol:  So if you have ideas on how to make your world a better place I'd love to hear them and maybe incorporate some of those ideas so I can help in different ways.

peace and love
YT2shine

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Hi Pink Topaz

I was really touched by your post thanks for sharing.  I think we all feel the same way you do at times.  It is very easy to get stressed out when you think you have to do huge miraculous things to change someone's life.  But when we do this, we over look that even the small things you can do to reach out to somone on a daily basis have a huge effect on an individual and the world.  A smile, a helping hand, an ear to listen, someone to support you and let you know someone cares.  When you can do more, then do more but these small gestures are miraculous too.  If we give nothing more than the love that is on our heart it can light another's heart and let it shine and empower someone to new heights!  We ALL deserve this because we are human.  Because we are love. You don't have to look further than youself and be open to pass it along.
I wish you all the best Pink Topaz big ((hugs)) to you.  let your light shine :)

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