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Quote from: "friendlikeme81"
Quote from: "Shout"
They said: "Michael we want you back" in the background first he sings ABC, then I want you back and so on... I would take a picturem but i don´t think that it would help us.

With the broadcast I really would like to help, but I do not know how to put it on the inet...It is not on a DVD recorder or Video recorder but a box and I am not able to save it on a CD for eg. it remains on this box  :evil:

I'm happy that I'm not the only one who heard this. I did not record the broadcast and so I was a bit unsure if I heard it right or if I was mislead by my expectations...??

As you said, Shout, they most likely said Michael and not Michael Jackson  :oops: , but anyway, it's the same.

Quote from: "Sternschen87"
Sorry I don't believe its a clue. I saw it yesterday,too
They made also ugly comments about michael. I think its just promotion....
 

The content of the documentary did not include any clues, it said something about the influence of the media but also stressed the decline of the superstar. So it was nothing new, nothing that would have shown the case in a different light.
That's why I really wondered why they broadcasted the documentary yesterday. They did some shows about him after his supposed dead (10 best MJ-moments, 10 greatest comebacks--> This is it =Nr.1) but it got quite after some months. Now they showed this documentary without any reason, they even did not mention the rumors and inconsistencys about his "death", although they were the ones responsible for the fake coroner vid.  :?

IMO RTL tried to fit into the picture of a serious broadcast station and they didn't want to risk a dubious image.
But on the other hand they wanted to place a message between the lines for those, who want to hear it or who need to hear it ;) . And it was "Michael, we want you back"!!!  They did not include it into the documentary so nobody could complain about it's reliability because of making mistakes.
Instead, they put it into a promotion clip, which is less risky for them.  
We know that Michael always had a quite good image in Germany and he liked Germany, too. I think that's why RTL feels responsible for placing a message to him. They really want him to come back as we do! :D

And did I told you that I was not able to record this commercial for the broadcast when punkt 12 was aired because they have changed the program? Afterwards it was possible, no problem! This is a little bit weird why would they change their pragram to show MJ and to promote the program which was shown at the same day.

To me it really does not make any sense especialy because there is no reason, actually I do not see any reason why they would air this program at all.  

I think it is not a big deal, but it is in deed strange that they show this programm "100 % Michael Jackson" (interesting name for this program by the way...).

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Quote from: "msteetee34"
I saw tweets for Elizabeth Taylor today and she was going off because she was mad at the media for saying mean things about Kathy Ireland on the Oscar pre show.  Wow she said it was an injustice because they were talking about the way she looked.  This is an injustice????  Kinda ironic she mad about this and calls it an injustice but no tweets about injustice when Murray was being arraigned for Involuntary manslaughter for her best friend MJ supposed death.  Now if this really happened to MJ you would think that she would go off about that.  Here's her tweets:

DameElizabeth    When is someone going to stop the yellow press from lashing out at people who no more deserve it than the Dalai Lama!
about 23 hours ago via web
Reply Retweet  DameElizabeth    I am boiling to the point of eruption at the injustice of those statements.
about 23 hours ago via web
Reply Retweet  DameElizabeth    I have never seen anyone epitomize glamour and grace and professionalism like she did.
about 23 hours ago via web
Reply Retweet  DameElizabeth    These rags said, to quote them, “She was either stoned or drunk and looked pregnant” – what???? They must be the ones on drugs.
about 23 hours ago via web
Reply Retweet  DameElizabeth    I heard that some scum magazines, print and internet trashed Kathy Ireland on Oscar Red Carpet night.
about 23 hours ago via web

So take it a a metaphor for MJ...I thik she is very clear about her point. People  have rights which are broken by the media and we and they should do something about it. Maybe Michael did the first step..who knows  ;)

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Michael Jackson News / Re: MJ's Lawyers
« on: March 12, 2010, 10:25:37 PM »
Reminds of: Army Of Love  :lol:  ;)[attachment=0:3s7edpeq]Aufzeichnen 1.JPG[/attachment:3s7edpeq]

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Yes people think different :D

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Quote from: "bec"
Yes. I always believed this was a test, and we passed entirely too well, and RTL was hired to run damage control. They released that "making of" video entirely too fast. You don't go through the trouble to do a little van hoax and then reveal it 24hrs later. You just don't. You let that ride for a little bit before coming out and saying "fooled you".

Likely the RTL video was ready to go right away, but they didn't expect to have to run it so fast. We hoaxers proved oursleves pretty quick. Thank you old mjhd, that's van video is how they tested the waters to see what they were dealing with from the likes of us.

Great possibility..

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Should I add that for me it was very striking that they have talked about the media and how bad they presented Michael...here is what I wrote here on another topic...:

Watching RTL right now...let you know if I mention something interesting.

I am so excited...OMG MJ LOVE

A lot of talk about Michael as an actor or how media treated Michael that he cared about what media has written...and why he created Neverland, bacause he could be Michael the human being...it is a lot of talk about media!!! This is very striking so far...

Negative promotion in the early years...

Marcel Avram says that TII concerts were mission impossible..that no one really believed that he would go on stage maybe 2 or 3 performances, but no more!

Michael did not needed money he was rich...

The fans wanted Michael to be the greatest performer again but the media wanted him to fall down, he knew that. Michael always wanted to be remembered as a legend.
No RIP but Uri Geller mentioned that he looks from above and has the biggest come back in history.

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Quote from: "whatyourheartsays"
Quote from: "Shout"
Quote from: "whatyourheartsays"
Quote from: "Shout"
They said: "Michael we want you back" in the background first he sings ABC, then I want you back and so on... I would take a picturem but i don´t think that it would help us.

With the broadcast I really would like to help, but I do not know how to put it on the inet...It is not on a DVD recorder or Video recorder but a box and I am not able to save it on a CD for eg. it remains on this box  :evil:

what if you recorde a video of it with you webcam or camera ? You play it with the box on TV, and make a movie of it by yourself. Then you can upload the file on web.

This is great idea the only lack is that I have no camera. I have only a photo camera, maybe it helps a little bit..I´ll try, never did it before

my photo camera has a movie option...you should have a look to yours :mrgreen:

I know that is why I was thinking about my photo camera ;)

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Quote from: "whatyourheartsays"
Quote from: "Shout"
They said: "Michael we want you back" in the background first he sings ABC, then I want you back and so on... I would take a picturem but i don´t think that it would help us.

With the broadcast I really would like to help, but I do not know how to put it on the inet...It is not on a DVD recorder or Video recorder but a box and I am not able to save it on a CD for eg. it remains on this box  :evil:

what if you recorde a video of it with you webcam or camera ? You play it with the box on TV, and make a movie of it by yourself. Then you can upload the file on web.

This is great idea the only lack is that I have no camera. I have only a photo camera, maybe it helps a little bit..I´ll try, never did it before

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Quote from: "Shout"
They said: "Michael we want you back" in the background first he sings ABC, then I want you back and so on... I would take a picturem but i don´t think that it would help us.

With the broadcast I really would like to help, but I do not know how to put it on the inet...It is not on a DVD recorder or Video recorder but a box and I am not able to save it on a CD for eg. it remains on this box  :evil:

And only this songs are mentioned in the commercial:

1) ABC
2) I want you back
3)"Whenever you need me, I´ll be there"  (this is the only sentence which Michael sings) from: I will be there

If you have some questions I´ll answer. It is supposed to be about the Motown years, there were alljacksons (you know :lol:  ;) ) but they have only mentioned Michael :lol:

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They said: "Michael we want you back" in the background first he sings ABC, then I want you back and so on... I would take a picturem but i don´t think that it would help us.

With the broadcast I really would like to help, but I do not know how to put it on the inet...It is not on a DVD recorder or Video recorder but a box and I am not able to save it on a CD for eg. it remains on this box  :evil:

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Quote from: "friendlikeme81"
For which reason ever, there was a documentary about Michael Jackson on RTL this evening at 22:30.
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(RTL made the fake coroner vid, you know)

So I was alert and looking for new information, maybe a mention of the hoax like in other broadcasts (France e.g.). But there was nothing, only old stuff and some comments .....

I mean, there was nothing in the documentary....

but something really strange happened in the 3rd break!!

After the commercials had finished, just before the documentary continued, they made an advertisement for this Jackson 5 album[attachment=0:3d2va3dk]The Motown years 50.jpg[/attachment:3d2va3dk]

And in this advertisement they said clearly: "Michael Jackson - We want you back!"
It was mentioned as a song from this album, but the song is "I want you back". And they mentioned Michaels name right before the title. IMO this was never ever an accident!!

My husband witnessed this scene, but we didn't record it. So maybe someone of this forum recorded the complete broadcast and can post it here??

This was no coincidence!! RTL is aware of the hoax and they show it within this slight "slipup" between the lines, I mean pictures.. ;)
They ask Michael to come back!! :P :P  :P

OKAY I will take a look. I have missed it but everything is recorded. That you for mention it

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Other Odd Things / Re: are you having one of those?
« on: March 12, 2010, 09:36:24 PM »
GreenManMakeAChange

You describe an incredible pain, which I totaly understand it is surreal that a person like MJ could be really dead. I know some people who react the same way like you. This goes so deep and it is absolutely not a joke at all and when I imagine Michael who has this really deep feeling of how people could be hurt when they learn that he has passed, well I think no way he did it. He lost James Brown which was an incredible pain as we can see it during his short speech...I never heard a person talking about JB has faked his death because Michael didn´t cry and they were all so happy celebrating his life...
Michael was aware of how deep it might go how traumatic and if he has faked his death I believe that he will not come back. I think that Michael would not take death as a joke! I believe he would do it to get some peace but not to teach the world. I sometimes think there are no clues at all left for other people to be found, but that it is all a wishful thinking because we cannot accept that it all could be so banal ( Michael had enough and wanted some peace).

So...hm, here are some things which just do not convince me, that´s all.

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Other Odd Things / Re: 116 Clues that MJ is alive
« on: March 12, 2010, 09:13:23 PM »
Thank you for this list. I would like to analyze it all, but there is no time for that...but maybe I will find some  one day..I have strong doubts about some "clues"

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References & Similarities / Re: Michael said goodbye
« on: March 12, 2010, 09:09:26 PM »
Quote from: "tinker_bell"
So it is my turn to join those who think Michael is not coming back. As much as it is painful to think that we lost him or better say - lost a sight of him, I find strength and hope in thinking he’s free now. Free from the pressure and spotlight, free from idolizing love and irrational hatred, free from being haunted everywhere he goes, free from being larger than life and free to finally have a life. He gave all he could give, he was performing for over 40 years of his life, for most of his life he was the undisputed King of Pop, legend and superstar, he reached the heights no one ever reached before and he paid an enormous price for that. I truly believe he enjoyed this life as much as he could, doing what he loved most: creating, perfectionizing, helping other people, giving them hope, sense of awakening, taking them to the land of dreams and magic and speaking to their hearts. He really had it all… and he really made the world a better place.

I think the answer was in front of us all along, given by Michael himself. He said goodbye in March, I really think so now…

“I love you so much. Thank you all. This is it. I just want to say these, these will be my final show performances in London. This is it, this is it and when I say “this is it” it really means this is it because erm…I’ll be, I’ll be performing the songs my fans want to hear. This is it, I mean, this is, this is the final curtain call okay? And, erm…I’ll see you in July and … I love you. I really do. You have to know that, I love you so much, really, from the bottom of my heart”.

And it explains so many things… The movie made ‘for the fans’ instead of R.I.P., Michael’s messages throughout the movie (heal the planet, it’s all for L.O.V.E. – the movie was made out of love as a final gift), TMZ knowing significantly before what was going on back on June 25, family and kids acting too calm (they obviously know Michael is alive and it was his decision to leave).

And he really thought of everyone: his family and children would be financially safe (as they come first), and his fans, ho come second, would hear the songs they wanted to hear and see him performing again, and not just some thousands of lucky ones who could go to the London shows, but millions of people around the world.

That is really the Final curtain for the King of Pop, who he is no more (he still is for the world though). 50 years… is a significant date and an appropriate time to start a new life. We probably would never know what his life would be like from now on... unless he changes his mind one day!
 
And this particular  hoax… in Dave Dave’s words  - is just a hoax, a necessary technical means to realize and formalize the plan. People may have different opinions on that. Some would find it ‘unnecessary’ (like Kenny Ortega), to some it would come as a 'surprise' (like to Michael’s brothers) and some may just refer to it as a ‘sad occasion’ (as Lionel Ritchie). But after all it was HIS decision, and he always did what he wanted. As for us... it's an adventure, a great adventure, isn't it? :)

JMHO...

I agree, Michael said good bye to all fans, he knew that it was the right time...it was planed. That is why it is so hard not to believe that it is a hoax. But he said this is the final curtain call...and when I mean this is it...it means this is it (read between the lines: so accept it)!I am not waiting for Michaels come back because I strongly believe that he had enough and will not return to this crazy world!

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General Hoax Talk / Re: Helicopter pilot says, he was not there
« on: March 12, 2010, 08:29:02 PM »
Big thing with misleading people. The pilot clearly said that Michal Jackson was not in the coffin when they have transported the body, which is quite obvious. But some like to twist things as they were actually said.. :roll:

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