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« on: July 14, 2012, 04:09:43 PM »
I found a webpage about Ministry clowns and the more I read the more I thought of Michael.
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I will paste only where I saw Michael Jackson in what is written and put my thoughts...
3. A historic clown idea was based on the idea that "the most powerful person in the world is the one who can give away power." God did this when God entered into human flesh. Hebrews 12:2 Jesus calls on us to be servants. The cross, which was a symbol of suffering and death, now is seen as a symbol of victory and life. In clowning, you give away your power in words and action to become a "fool for Christ's sake" (I Corinthians 4:10).
6. God works through the principles of comedy. In comedy there is a "bringing down" of someone and, through a non-heroic means, the person is lifted up higher and better than before....
We are called to be "fools for Christ's sake," to be weak so that others can be strong. What an honor and privilege that calling is! (pp. 14-15)
I was thinking about the things he has set in motion through his career, the Masks, the wheel chair and the other little things he did that caused him to be laughed at and many people saw him as less than remarkable, thus elevating their own sense of 'greatness' with in themselves...
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The makeup, sometimes he looked so white and there was always alot of focus on his nose all the time, don't clowns make a big thing out of wearing a red nose that often squeaks?
Is this the reason for it to be called a circus? he refered to his own concerts as a circus, I think in the history tour...
From about 5:30 if it doesn't take you to that time already... the address is here which should take you directly to the circus part of his speach You are not allowed to view links.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=5efXJyBHF2g#t=331s[/youtube]
Just a thought, it does make sense to me, I'm not sure if it will to anyone else...
I apologise if this has been brought up before, I tried checking but I seriously can not get the search to bring up anything relevent of similar to what I want to talk about.
Off to bed I think, it's 2:10am..Let me know what you guys think...
omg this was too amusing (the video i mean). those fans are crazy!CARAAAZZAY!!! :LolLolLolLol: :thjajaja121:
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« on: July 14, 2012, 03:35:30 PM »
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yeah, i saw that video about a month ago.i thought everyone had seen it on here... lol..and i just found it weird that the release date of that song was on june 24, 2009 and then the next day michael jackson was dead....they made the video of them singing that song about 2 months later according to ladydash or whatever that username was that posted the full original video of it.
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« on: July 14, 2012, 03:32:36 PM »
for some strange reason, i think that he planned to fake his death to help pay for those debts that he had to boost his record sells because he knew that if he did that, people would buy his music.and he's planning to make a comeback to show that he's alive and well, and that he wants to continue his career and probably start making movies as well. so the dates of the comeback are probably part of the plan that he's going to come back when he believes that all of his debts have been paid off and that he gets better with his "drug addiction problem".
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« on: July 14, 2012, 02:16:00 PM »
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« on: July 14, 2012, 01:59:20 PM »
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« on: July 14, 2012, 12:55:54 AM »
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« on: July 14, 2012, 12:19:18 AM »
TheofficialDave (Dave Davidson), you have been a member since Tweet one of these - Click below • I've been Tweeting since June 26, 2012 (18 days) • I've been Tweeting since June 26, 2012 • I've been Tweeting for 18 days You are not allowed to view links.
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« on: July 14, 2012, 12:15:39 AM »
i know it's been some years now, but why when i go to the page, that same twitter page, there's some old guy on there that looks nothing like that burn victim? what did he do? grow hair instantly? get another disguise? c'mon. that's a totally different person on that picture. who in the world is under that account? It says Dave Davidson.......
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« on: July 14, 2012, 12:12:08 AM »
I don't know what to think about him too ..
He is really strange..it's true!many people on his myspace say "you are Michael" but he has never told the contrary ..
If i was him (the real Dave Dave) i will be angry that people think i am an other person..and i will post a long message in order to say .."LEAVE ME ALONE" haha <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> ..no but i will tell them "I'm not Michael,he was just my friend,please be respectful,i am a person,a real person,don't remove my existence like that !"
Instead of that he always says "i love you..thank you for your support..ect"
I'm agree with Ginafelicia..i think we will know the truth when Michael will be back..
i just think that he's part of the hoax if he's not going to tell people that he really isn't him. he's keeping a secret from us. he just wants people to keep up the hoax. if mj and dave dave were such close friends, dave dave would probably cover for mj and not rat him out. mj probably asked dave dave to let him go on lkl (like i said in another thread), and let him show himself and see how many people would recognize it's him, and also probably wants to show the fans that he's perfectly fine. he also probably got on as dave dave to show that everything is ok. remember he said "the illusion starts tomorrow"..well i think this dave dave get-up is apart of the illusion. "this is not the final curtain" these are things to remember. "watch the illusionist". watch, when he comes back, we will be blown out of our minds. i think the non-beLIEvers will be blown out of their minds the worst. and i hope that when he comes back, that he'll reveal that he really was mj and not leave people in the dark about it.because right now, we're being left in the dark by the real dave dave about if it was mj or really him or what.. (i already know for sure it wasn't the real dave dave though).
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« on: July 13, 2012, 11:55:38 PM »
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« on: July 13, 2012, 11:53:48 PM »
Well, to answer seriously,I'm open to any theories because we don't know exactly what Michael would do, or would think... event if it's far fetched ones, i admit.
But I understand that Dave Dave could be fed up of all the people asking him if he is Michael Jackson. I'm not one of these, I observe a lot, but Idon't like to bother people. I would have never called Dr Murray's office for example,
But this map thing is kinda strange. Ok it will show him the people who come to his myspace,but it will not stop the stalkers.. right? Or I misunderstood the point of this map... lol
I am 100% agree with you.
Yeah, I´m on the map too but wrong town. I thought the same, maybe Mj want´s to come by and say hello and thanks for support <!-- s:) --> <!-- s:) --> In my case he would go in wrong town <!-- s:o --> <!-- s:o --> <!-- s:D --> <!-- s:D -->
I think Dave is just curious to see from where those crazy people come from <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
lol, i don't think that's why. he can't visit everybody like he's santa claus. idk why he has a ip tracker. some people just have one to see how many people are visiting their page and where they're from. there's even one where you can write comments. so yeah it's creepy. i don't know his reason for doing it is for. maybe he wants to see how many people from this forum will visit that link...to see if people are still thinking that he's mj. that could be a possibility.
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« on: July 13, 2012, 11:40:30 PM »
"Dave Dave "spoke about all the paul mc Cartney records and playing pole position, when he visit Neverland for the first time.
i ones saw a vid that spoke about the timeline , when Dave Dave was at michaels house, Mj haden't bought the beatles catalog, so how come there where records at the wall , and Pole position was not on the market at that time?
If this is true it's a Huge clue that MJ gave!
Well I'm reading on Wikipedia right now (though I know information can be edited on there)..it says that Pole Position was released in 1982..so I'm guessing he played the game before he got burned in 1983.So, he must have been playing it for only a year. As far as MJ having records of the beatles (Paul Mc Cartney) all over his wall, I don't know about that. *shrugs*
thank you chicana, for searching Wiki, i havent got the time to look into it, and hadent thought of the vid all this time untill, i saw this thread.
But some how i have this feeling there is more into this story i mean more evidence we havent seen all this time.
I guess if Dave Dave indeed is MJ, wich i'm convinced of, Mj would have probably more clues put in this interview with Larry King, because he know there would be people who saw directly it was him, but wanted more evidence to support there feelings /thought.
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yeah no problem. it kind of sparked my interest, so i searched. as far as more evidence, there's been alot of evidence pointing out that he's mj. in his words..the facial features everything (even his teeth), basically alot of people are sure it's him, and it's pretty much conclusive if you ask me. that's all of the evidence that i need.
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« on: July 13, 2012, 02:12:02 AM »
It has been a long time, since I tried to find it, but after a long and good research, I have found it. I had seen it in the original version in the beggining of this hoax, but now I could not seem to find it, it is like if all the video of this scene on the net was removed. But I have found it in the deutsch version, so at least you can see what Dave Dave looks like in it.
It is my point of view, but I really do think that Michael has played out the Dave Dave character since Dave Dave was old enough for Michael to caracterize him. I think, despite of the picture we have seen of the real Dave Dave, it was always Michael who has played his role. Remember one time, Michael said in an interview that there is plenty of songs that he did the back vocals but no one knows it. I think he did the same with Dave Dave. I see him having fun and playing in a tv serie of the B category. I don't know why, but I do think it was him. Just look at the face of Dave Dave, and his face just look like a mask. In fact, when you look at Dave Dave's newest picture, it is like his scars are worst right now than back then when he appeared in the Bold and Beautiful and at the Leeza show. So for me, the real Dave Dave is only the blue one eyes' men we have seen on the picture recently, and Michael has always played his role since Dave Dave was an adult.
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Another thing weird... At first when I did my research on Dave Dave in 2009, on the Bold and the beautiful, I had found plenty of things, but now, it seems that a lot of things about it has vanished on the net.... :WTF:
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but yeah i've seen it before.
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« on: July 13, 2012, 02:11:19 AM »
It has been a long time, since I tried to find it, but after a long and good research, I have found it. I had seen it in the original version in the beggining of this hoax, but now I could not seem to find it, it is like if all the video of this scene on the net was removed. But I have found it in the deutsch version, so at least you can see what Dave Dave looks like in it.
It is my point of view, but I really do think that Michael has played out the Dave Dave character since Dave Dave was old enough for Michael to caracterize him. I think, despite of the picture we have seen of the real Dave Dave, it was always Michael who has played his role. Remember one time, Michael said in an interview that there is plenty of songs that he did the back vocals but no one knows it. I think he did the same with Dave Dave. I see him having fun and playing in a tv serie of the B category. I don't know why, but I do think it was him. Just look at the face of Dave Dave, and his face just look like a mask. In fact, when you look at Dave Dave's newest picture, it is like his scars are worst right now than back then when he appeared in the Bold and Beautiful and at the Leeza show. So for me, the real Dave Dave is only the blue one eyes' men we have seen on the picture recently, and Michael has always played his role since Dave Dave was an adult.
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Another thing weird... At first when I did my research on Dave Dave in 2009, on the Bold and the beautiful, I had found plenty of things, but now, it seems that a lot of things about it has vanished on the net.... :WTF:
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i wish the bold and the beautiful's episode of this was in english..
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« on: July 13, 2012, 02:09:20 AM »
Michael disguised as Dave Dave no doubt
The DD on LKL doesn't even look like DD... there's some obvious differences in appearance
Michael's eyes, definitely Michael's voice.
totally!
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