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« on: October 19, 2012, 08:41:34 PM »
I think Barrack knows a whole lot more than he lets on. Don’t know yet for sure how I’d classify him though. Undecided at this point.
... You guys... need a 'nodding' emote.  'Cause I sure agree with that! I also am really hazy on him right now, but so far it seems like...he might know something MAJOR. Which would explain why he's doing these MAJOR things of basically bringing Neverland back to life.
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« on: October 19, 2012, 08:34:28 PM »
I don't mean to dismiss scorpionchik's post, but...
..pffft.
"Close friend", "producer and writer", "insiders", blah de blahcetera--
This reads like a tabloid to me, and I really can't put any faith into it...
Besides- doesn't it just re-state, in a somewhat tabloid-cheesy fashion, things we already pretty much know? <3
Except we haven't got a scheduled date for Michael's return.
That's for Mike to decide, not us. c:
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« on: October 19, 2012, 06:44:48 PM »
 I don't openly talk about my beLIEving to anyone, period. That's just my way. (You're the only ones who know I really, truly know Michael is still out there.) I sometimes hint to my mom (since she's open-minded like I am) that "things were very very weird when Michael 'died' and...honestly, I don't think he's really dead." But she never really believes me. So, something's been bothering me majorly since the last time I did that. My mom's main explanation for how MJ cannot be alive is: "Michael was the kindest, sweetest person. He would never fake his death like that, that's terrible. He loves his fans, he could NEVER do that to them. Make them suffer like that."I'm sure a lot of you guys got this from loved ones or friends around you, too. I'm embarrassed to say I had absolutely no answer for my mom. I just agreed with her on how wonderfully sweet and kind Michael is, because...I didn't know what to say...  I felt so horrible. Like I'd forgotten who Michael is and I was just desperate for him to be alive or something. What if she's right?... about how he'd never hoax...? My question to you smart, gorgeous people: How do you answer the "Michael Wouldn't Do This To His Fans" arguement?I'd love an answer to my silly little topic if you guys have the time.. <3
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« on: October 19, 2012, 06:36:36 PM »
AMAZING.
I just read through all 3 pages and I have to say one thing. I mean no offense to anyone, especially the other Jackson family members, but...
Behind Michael, Donte is possibly the smartest Jackson with the best insight on the world/Universe.
His words are so incredible and I felt the strangest vibe of Michael's energy and wisdom in his words.
It is so very very true that we have to look WITHIN us, not outside, for what we want in this life. By sitting still inside, even if we're moving around and doing stuff with our physical bodies, we can make a moment of happiness and love energy last forever. We only forget the timeless when someone reminds us of how quickly time is passing (we're losing something, so we should be upset), or how slowly time is passing (hurry up, we're losing something ELSE cause we're so slow).
That's how I view the hoax, too.
Not in time. Not for a result. True, I'm a bit impatient a lot- I just want that concrete, undeniable proof Michael is 100% alive, darnit! >.<
But when I feel Michael's energy when I think of him -- it's a vibrant energy, one in motion, the way it pours through my whole being and fills me with a certain anticipation of something wonderful somehow; this energy is surely one of a LIVING person (I hope you guys understand what I'm talking about @.@!) --
he is that calm, that patience, that vessel that God works through that he always said he felt he was...
Through him I can feel God teaching me patience, and the true power of love and miracles.
I think it's this whole adventure with you guys that taught me the true meaning of Faith, and how Love makes even the darkest, most grim of situations not what they appear.
I know I'm a bit quiet, but... I love you guys. ;n; I absolutely do.
Your intelligence, OPEN eyes, open heart, and patience have taught me so much, too.
Even though sometimes I'm so scared I'm just fooling myself and making up stories of Michael being still here, and wondering if my eyes are open or if they are rose-glasses-tinted...
So I come here for reminders that it's not just me. It's just way more than one person who doesn't rely on one person or another for absolute truth, but on what they see and FEEL inside and how aware they are of the world around them.
I see your eyes are so very very open.
God is really working through you guys, too.
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« on: October 19, 2012, 06:06:25 PM »
The article had actually been published back in March 2009 ( I think it was March) and re-issued yesterday.
:icon_question: I have no idea.
Hahaha, you guys are amazing! yes these are revival news and comes from this:
Pete Wentz wants to buy Michael Jackson objects
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Sophie Bernard, published March 15, 2009
Pete Wentz is a big fan of Michael Jackson and he thinks even buy multiple objects from the King of pop when selling auction it will organize next month.
Pete Wentz, the bassist for the band Fall Out Boy, wants to buy some of the most memorable objects of Michael Jackson. It also revealed to have spotted many that he dreams of acquiring. It is a fan or it is not.
Even though he is delighted that his idol decided to resume a tour in London in July, he's afraid that this return is a disappointment. He said on BBC Newsbeat : "It's really a great chance to see him on stage." I will come to London for that. Have you seen the movie 'The Prestige'? I think that it can be that this is part of the game, of the illusion to see on stage dancing like the old Michael Jackson and deceive everyone. "I think that anything is possible with this.
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Quote of yesterday's news:
“Have you seen the movie ‘The Prestige?’ I think there is potential that this is all part of the act, part of the illusion that he will be out onstage and be dancing like the same old Michael and that he has everybody tricked. I think that anything is possible with it.
I think this is the interesting part of the yesterday's news, it seems that the article is hinting the possibility of a Michael Jackson's comeback on the stage, maybe?. :affraid:
May be he would come back as a double and dance with the group of dancers and fool the audience! I guess Michael is capable of doing this.
Michael HAS always wanted to be in the background, for at least once in his life.So I suppose in his after deathlife (AKA new post-hoax life), instead of being THE guy- he'll finally be 'one of the guys'. One of us. Unnoticed, and just 'someone else'... Sounds like him, all right. ouo Pete Wentz really had an odd way with words in that quote... Jeez, and in MARCH 2009? Just too weird nowadays! If he had ANY idea of what he was saying... :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile
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« on: October 19, 2012, 06:03:18 PM »
So interesting, and WONDERFUL, that one man is going through so much to revive and renew an old, abandoned place.
Does anyone think Mr. Barrack might know something?
He's investing quite a lot of time and work and money into a place that, in all honesty, is just a big ol' chunk of Michael's land without Michael.
The sole reason most people went there was to see Mike.
Note how since Michael left it in 2005 (;n; for the STUPIDEST most horrible reasons...poor sweetheart...going to keep my mouth shut about mean people right now), people were like: "Never...what? That old place? Who cares."
I still strongly wonder if Michael either is planning to, or may be residing within, the property.
Statues being returned, landscaping done, polishing floors... as if they're expecting someone very, very important to see it...
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« on: October 18, 2012, 10:23:24 PM »
Having a gun license in Nevada wouldn't give JJ the legal right to be carrying a gun in LA right? So how does this story fly in the light of the license being for the state of Nevada TMZ? Very, very good question... Man, are there ANY stories involving either Jackson (Joe or Michael) that DOESN'T have serious swiss cheese holes in them these days?... I often wonder if it IS meant to get us asking questions and distrusting the media. Boy...Joseph got some swagger for a dude his age. He makes all these wanna-be rap thugs look like they're in kindergarden. [not that I'm a fan of guns by the way]
Joe is and was THE thug before it was cool being a thug. Not that it's cool to be one, of course. x.x
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« on: October 18, 2012, 10:14:27 PM »
Huh. I'm still lost, but... okay, thanks for that. <3 <3 edit:
going through the invoice on page 21....
where it says misc mortuary services... in brackets.. what does any else read? does it say (as of 17/02/09)? or 07/07/09?.. it's hard to see clearly for me and what does that mean? that a security service for forest lawn was implemented on that date or does it mean it's a private charge to the Jackson's specifically for security for Michael? and I'm just assuming it says Security service....
That (very small!) print indeed says 'Security Service As of'... but the date IS hard to read. Clearly a '2' in there (to my eyes anyway), so most likely 7/02/09. 17/02/09 = February 17, 2009... Which obviously was a time when NONE of this was needed. ...Unless this document was prepared WAY BACK at the time and the hoax was already brewing crazy...
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« on: October 18, 2012, 10:05:51 PM »
Majestik? Oops, my mistake! :icon_redface: These 6 Bodyguards were there...
Joesph, by the FBI, carries a GUN. He said...
"You Monkey suit wearing ************** elf's..."
He said the words
"If I hear you're all giving my son drugs..."
"Or doing ANYTHING illegal with my son..."
He showed his gun
"I'm going to KILL all of you..."
And we Left...
A week later, Michael Jackson was dead... ...Then I sure hope those bodyguards did some good work to help MJ get away from anyone who WAS gonna hurt him. ._. Conrad Murray not included. Actors don't hurt people, you know.
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« on: October 18, 2012, 09:25:09 PM »
Oh GOD would this answer lots and lots of our prayers. <33
Michael, in some way, keeping his promise to make Neverland more accessible to us...
But right now, that seems out of the question.
He may be there, out of our sight, right now...[/b]
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« on: October 18, 2012, 09:14:20 PM »
@paula-c -- I too believe Michael was in some sort of danger.
If he wasn't, none of this would be happening.
Nothing to disappear from.
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« on: October 18, 2012, 09:06:23 PM »
How to explain the sudden appearance there on page 21, but absence on page 15?...
I would guess that it was two invoices, since the first invoice on page 21 was already written they didn't put it on the second invoice, because that could lead to double charging?
How could they double charge for something they didn't charge for first? I wish I knew which document came first chronologically to give me a better idea of what sort of conclusion I can make...
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« on: October 18, 2012, 08:59:27 PM »
what the
I too feel like this is a major time warp. :WTF:
Makes no sense if this was pre-July 2009 and they suddenly decided to post it yesterday.
Still makes no sense if this was indeed new.
I can only say either Pete Wentz has seriously lost track of time and events, or...
....x.x Okay, I'm just lost. Thoughts, guys?
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« on: October 18, 2012, 08:50:11 PM »
he rep tells TMZ, Joe was issued a CCW permit in 2010 by the LVMPD -- allowing him to carry a concealed handgun on his person anywhere in Nevada. The permit expires in 2015.
since 2010? so what about in 2009 when he showed the bodyguards?
Whoa, good catch. Hm... My best guess right now... TMZ may have said it was 2009, in order to link to the closeness of MJ's death ('two weeks'). To shove down our throats: 'See? MJ DID die of the drugs, see, even Joe was trying to PREVENT what happened. IT HAPPENED!!' Unless Joe's been carrying that gun around and flashed it at MJ's bodyguards like a rebel unlicensed mofo. People with guns often do that. ._.
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« on: October 18, 2012, 08:43:03 PM »
It doesn't matter who posted it or how unreliable the poster may or may not be.
The fact is this document right in front of you, the funeral/Forest Lawn documentation, IS an official document, without a doubt.
What it states is what the family ordered for Michael. Care of the body, funeral, all of that.
This document DOES state and/or indicate the following:
-There are NO charges for refrigeration, embalming and care/preparation.
-There ARE charges for 'basic services and facilities' from Forest Lawn, which are:
--the 'interment property/park', the exact sarcophagus (ugh, creepy), at, as we know, Holly Terrace.
--Graveside service, casket coach, flower van. You know, the fancy funeral stuff we saw.
-Endowment Care- Property (my guess is this is the care of the property)
-Interment and recording burial: basically saying "Yes, the dead person is buried HERE. (shows exactly where)"
The stuff that's for show.
In other words, the charges for the MOST IMPORTANT, and FIRST and foremost procedures: the tending to the BODY...
Are not present, and were most likely not performed. (Because there was no body. That's what this document keeps screaming at me due to the lack of crucial information, i.e. the presence of work done on a dead body.)
It's eerily empty.
Why are there so mny empty lines and spaces?...
But the issue here that I see is.. On page 21, suddenly there appear the $450 'embalming' charge, $250 'care and prep'.... no refrigeration charge (so wait, even if they care, prep and embalm the body, they just leave it in a warm ditch or something? makes no sense)...
How to explain the sudden appearance there on page 21, but absence on page 15?...
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