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« on: June 08, 2011, 05:00:51 AM »
I just noticed his hands right away last night, it might not be anything but... I thought it looked like somethiing. Look here: You are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginHave this man been debunked? Has some family or friend or himself came forward to speak?
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« on: June 08, 2011, 04:57:38 AM »
I belive he was unwillingly sucked in to the whole illuminati, the sing that make me so sure about it is the fact how famous he was, all fans and all the influence he could/can give to people. All the money he earned and so on.
BUT
Just because you are a part of or involved does NOT mean someone is evil!
Michael was taken advantage of, lets not call them illuminati but rather bad people.
(it is the same to me, and illuminati comes in many different degrees!)
Michael wanted out after the thriller album or maybe in the whole era of the thriller album, maybe he realized something. His music seem to have changed (messages) after that one. And then all the trashing begins (typicle illuminati, if they don't do what they have been told, they start messing with you)
Slow torture, public embarressment, a target, trying to destroy his image.
Maybe they did threaten to kill him if he did not change his ways (from good to bad)
He did not change.
If he knew they would kill him if he continued on, WHY, WHYYYY, not do anything about it. All the public talk about sony etc and the upcoming tour with all the messages. PLZ he must have known they would NOT let him do that!
Either he faked his death, or he got murdered. For me those are the only two possible things.
No way he comitted suicide!
But will he return if he faked his death?
I do belive he loves his fans extremly much, all people fans or not, but I don't know if that would make him return...
I don't know...
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« on: June 08, 2011, 04:11:35 AM »
I know this is all old for you here, but all new for me... LOL But there is a huge red stamp on the document stating " Informational, not a valid document to establish identity " - Are there any new news about this? And look at the symbol down att the right bottom of the document (snakes?) I have seen that symbol somewhere! You are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginAnd this: No place of interment is listed. A ‘temp’ place could be a church. A ‘temporary’ location is not a proper location on a California death certificate. California Health and Safety Code Section 7009 defines “Interment”: “‘Interment’ means the disposition of human remains by entombment or burial in a cemetery or, in the case of cremated remains, by inurnment, placement or burial in a cemetery, or burial at sea [].” “Temp” is not a valid disposition. - I don't really know what that means, but the words temporary and not valid.... Any new news on this?
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« on: June 07, 2011, 06:29:13 PM »
Just a personal opinion, I think it would be VERY rude for someone to be on the phone, talking, playing etc during a memorial/funeral. Just to have the phone visible. It is not respectful. And this man... ehm... seemed so relaxed, didn't care about anyone around him, seem to be there by "himself". Minding his own business... And WHY stick out like that with a LIGHT HAT come oooooooooon!!! You guys should take snapshots of the footage and zoom those in in photoshop. Things u see 
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« on: June 07, 2011, 06:15:51 PM »
More pix added
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« on: June 07, 2011, 06:07:14 PM »
Okay I dont know how to add pix here so I publish my findings on my site. Here are 3 handpics on the same link... It might be nothing but to me... I don't know. Tell me what you think! It is taken aprox 8 mins in the first fake video (I posted a link to it in my previous post) You are not allowed to view links.
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« on: June 07, 2011, 05:43:57 PM »
Oh man I still can't belive how fake the funeral was, I just keep watching it, amazed how fake but still... Did they maybe want us to understand it? I noticed also in the helicopter view you can see spots on the grass, like stone spots or lighter grass spots. All over the whole grass. BUT in the close up video(the fake) they are nowhere to be found, only very nice green thick grass. And where does all of those smaller trees come from, because from the helicopter view I can't see any small trees, not that many all over... Seriously... It feels as if it is some kind of joke, anyone who takes a close look see this (we do). But could this just be a rehersal? If so, it doesn't make sence to have a complete set with cars, road and green screen. That is just to much for a rehersal (and money). And 4 minutes and 38 sec in the You are not allowed to view links.
Register or Login the tree behind the man standing by the car LMAO is crooked! that thing loox funny! And yes the camera is in a specific angle but look at all the other trees! And in the helicopter view you can see some of the people/dancers stand on the actual lawn/grass. But on the fake video I havent yet spottet one person standing on the grass only up on the (cant find the word for it) edge of the sidewalk... But never touching the "grass". Correct me if I am wrong. And now I just think I spottet something interesting. Cr'p It is 1 am here now and I need to sleep but I must do this, I spottet something in the fake video. Might be something maybe nothing.
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« on: June 07, 2011, 05:09:16 PM »
Thank You!
Mixed feelings about him I see... hehe
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« on: June 07, 2011, 02:44:16 PM »
For some reason I can't find a topic about him, if there is then redirect me there plz or add a link so I can read some comments and thoughts about him.
If there is not any topic here about him,
What do you think about him?
Belive about him?
Is he in on this hoax thing?
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« on: June 07, 2011, 01:04:40 PM »
To be honest the first times I watch this video I thought it wasn't him (maybe a impersonator pretending to be him) because of the way he walked towards the stage, and then how he was on stage.
But sure, if he was sorta angry and/or upset and knew something that we "don't", as, I am gonna fake my death.
Then maybe that was his angry walk, lol. How he acts when he is upset and have had enough.
i really dont know. But it can explain some things for myself.
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« on: June 07, 2011, 12:50:18 PM »
I have to say the thing that made me first belive he faked his death. and remember this, I have only started watching his interviews these past 2 weeks, starting listening to his music. (kinda obsessed at the moment haha) well, I came across the mamorial tvideo 3 days ago, thinkingI am just gonna watch this hoax stuff for fun.
Well, first off, everything felt FAKE! i would be sad, devestaded, crying, hugging people and so on.
Second. I saw the man in the fedora hat.
My heart stopped when I saw him.
The they showed him waving to someone, and my heart sank, then he hugged a woman, and my jaw dropped!!!
I am not kidding, I was right away, THAT IS F*ING MJ no doubt!!! He moved, waved and hugged as MJ does!
It kinda freaked me out.
I was sold to him faking his death, but I want to remind that I am still 50/50 on this hehe.
Then I started watching the memorial set more closer and yeah, the background is even more fake than the acting!
Now, I belive MJ was the fedora man in the memorial. But at the funeral or the place where they sang and all that, he could easilöy been the blond woman.
Why take a chance and go as the same "person" on both events... nope ehh...
But everytime I see that man in the fedora hat on the memorial I just feel love. And that for me is a fact that it is Michael!
I hope he will return and show the media and people how easily it is to be fooled and manipulated by the media!
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« on: June 07, 2011, 12:09:47 PM »
I read Jermaine tweets from May where he tweeted that people doing all these hoax videos of mikes death and all are just hurting themselves with false hope.
Not his exact words.
So in a way he denied it is a hoax? or just maybe that they shouldn't waste time because he wont be coming back.
Or maybe Jermaine is not in on the Hoax.
La Toya seem to know things...
But, This Teddy guy, music producer, has written stuff on his blog. Anyone know anything about Teddy?
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« on: June 07, 2011, 11:47:06 AM »
Yeah those feelings have come accrossed to me too.
First was, he is so Jesus like (didn't want to mention it if it would be sensetive) and then thought, he might be the one coming back ( I am not religious though I belive this will happen, maybe not it being MJ but the event) as "jesus" not the Jesus but the Good one.
Then something just hit me. What if that is what they want us to belive. Because, first the false come, then the real.
Oh man... That is pure evil if they use Mj for that! (illuminati)
I got and get heartbroken just thinking about it.
But we will never know only if it happens.
I just know I wont run with open arms towards MJ without being careful, I will LOVE having him back but I will have an extra open eye cause... You don't know.
Things are happening out in the world, and more things are to come.
First come the false, then the real. But how do we know if the false haven't already came before MJ comes (if he comes back)...
I guess it come down to listening to your own gut feeling/instinct and go with it.
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« on: June 07, 2011, 11:33:55 AM »
Hey all. I am 25 yrs, woman from sweden! I am going to be very honest here so here it goes. I grew up with my mom (and sister) my mom listened to MJ's song ALL the time, could hardly miss it cause it was ALWAYS on the radio, mtv and everywhere, LOL. So I grew up hearing his songs, singing along, watching his videos. BUT I was never a fan, I still don't consider myself a fan. Ok, pls don't get angry now  I am still having guilty feelings over this. The first "scandal" of MJ happened in 93? In 1997 or so when I really got into music I heard, only heard fast on the "news" and mags all over, awful things about him, so, without even thinking about it, I pushed him away from all music and tv. Nothing MJ! I always was, How can you like MJ he is a Perv, and weird and so on... I can't belive I was like that not even looking into it, but I was 10+. I didn't care about him at all, but yeah some song I heard (cause u cant avoid him hehe) were good. Then the next scandal, I felt disgusted by him, more angry. Then he died, I felt nothing, I was like oh, what happened, ok whatever. Didn't care so much. BUT 1 year ago, I awoke as many people are talking about, the awakening. Yup, it happened to me. Loving things started to happen, everything changed. I can't explain it. And I just felt so much love and light and... moving on. I tend to follow my heart now. Guess where it led me. For some reason I started listening to MJ songs. And then, I started to hear his messages in his songs. I was like, thats how I feel, how could I have missed all this!!! So I have listened to all his albums I don't know how many times now. Then last week it hit me, he is dead ( I was looking into the Illuminati, that was how I got into MJ) and I never, ever eveeerr have felt such grief, 2 yrs later. ust like that. I swear I have been crying, listening to some of his songs are very tough for me. I jsut feel so much love for him I can't explain it. I am more into that the Illuminati killed him, if he is dead, they did it! No doubt. If he faked it, he did it because of them and maybe to prove something. For me, it is only one of these things. It is my gut feeling. There is no doubt in my mind, heart and soul that MJ is INNOSENCE to everything awful that have been thrown at him! It makes me sick!!! (But yet I belived this when I was younger, until little less than 1 month ago) I thought this death hoax was BULL, LMAO, well here I am. HAHA! But I stay at being in 50/50 about it. Just thinking about him being dead makes me so sad, it is blowing my mind that I am grieving NOW! I felt as if I missed so much! Why do I belive it might be a hoax, well, he talked about his "murder" coming, years before it did. He could have either know he would be and faked his death to prevent it or just simply be dead. But if anyone could do it it would be MJ. the connections, friends, money, hideouts. He could. He said he got music from heaven, the lyrics, that he channeled these songs. He seem to be very open. Awaken. Pure. Love. The only brother who has said that it is not a hoax is Jermaine via his twitter. But there are speculations that maybe the jackson family are NOT in on the hoax, or a part of the family are not. So I don't know. IF it is a hoax and IF he would return, my focus would be on this July, or near next year 2012 or in the beginning of 2013. Or maybe he will never return. or he might just be dead. Well, this is my whole truth story about my feelings, past and present about MJ. No need to bash me about how I felt about him b4. I am already going through that, allthough I know, the past is the past and the now is now.  I will 4-ever LOVE him!
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« on: June 07, 2011, 11:11:48 AM »
Hi, newbie here :-) Better late than never  And my first post is to debunk something LOL ( I am a 50/50 beLIEver ) But I am open to anything, and of course I WANT him to be ALIVE! I read, this is old "news", that on another MJ site, dont remember which one, but she wrote that a statement from the court that Kenny Ortega had said that Michael's last words to him was, Tomorrow the Illusion begins. (something like that) this was in 2009 i think. I found several articles where he had been interviewed and here are 2 links to 2 different sites: You are not allowed to view links.
Register or Login - Time Magazine and You are not allowed to view links.
Register or Login - Movies They were working on a big illusion that was going to be in the show, and the illusion would start tomorrow and Michael was very excited about it. I have to say that for me it clearly states that he was excited to come back and start with the illusion that was going to be on the show. And this place where I read this statement was made in open court or a hearing. I think that woman who wrote, that she was there etc was a fake. But I honestly don't remember. I have beel watching and reading so much about this now so my head is spinning LOL
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