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Other Odd Things / Re: The YELLOW Toy Car & The Courtroom
« on: February 16, 2010, 03:39:48 PM »
Quote from: "akiraka"
still beLiEve I have only one answer TMZ's cameras - cameraman, please don't forget that.

 I agree with you but not only the judge was shown. Instead of showing his name on a plate, we had the yellow car toy. Then instead of seal of jursdiction we had many calendars on the walls.

When Murray was shown and his lawyer we also saw the white Murray 2 behind him. There are many images that point something is fishy. But because was TMZ Exclusive I think nothing is fishy, is just on a schedule.  ;)  ;) Of course THE garbage could have a main role in the cast  :lol:  :lol: as we always saw since June 25.

Of course I completely agree.... I just tried to be objective but the car an the doll can´t even be mention in an objective post.... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

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Other Odd Things / Re: WHY??
« on: February 16, 2010, 03:31:53 PM »
Quote from: "virgo75"
Quote from: "Venus7"
OK...As we know MJ's own family never visits him @Forest Lawn. Which is strange of course. From that we can assume that Michael burried someplace else.  BUT.....
Why we NEVER see people from rehearsals like dancers, Orianthi, KO visiting MJ in Forest Lawn???  They were the last people who were involved with him and close to him right before June25, working on TII rehearsals, and he was an idol for those dancers, for god's sake!!!! WTH is goling on??????????????????????


I don't really consider it suspect that the dancers, Orianthi, or KO don't visit.
I mean, I don't visit any of my deceased co-workers.
Maybe go to the funeral, but not visit afterwards.

Also, in the beginning, visitation was supposed to be off limits to everyone but family.
So even if they wanted to go, they wouldn't be permitted in to the immediate area where MJ is supposed to be.


 :lol:  :lol:  you made me laugh.... i don´t visit my deceased co-workers either.... but none of them is Michael Jackson!!!!!!!!! :lol:  :lol:

I think this is one of the things that keeps me thinking this is a hoax.... it is weird enough that the family shows no emotion..... but the dancers.... we saw them cry just to work with him.... they are obviously as fans as we are..... I just can´t explain why they are so calm.... they lost their idol, their dream.... did you watch extras in this is it??? it was going to be the best show ever!! and they were so close to be there.... they should be devastated....

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Other Odd Things / Re: The YELLOW Toy Car & The Courtroom
« on: February 16, 2010, 03:06:57 PM »
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Quote from: "ILuvUMoreMJ"
Quote from: "Grace"
We don't know whether the footage was produced inside of LAX court house, do we?
Could if have been done somewhere else? Yes.

No, I saw everyone walk in and out of the courthouse.  And I spoke to a couple "lottery" winners that got to sit inside and watch the proceedings.

Maybe you've already said, and I apologize if you have, but what did the lottery winners have to say? Did they notice all of the strange things and feel like maybe it was set up in some way?  The angle of the camera also seems strange to me. You'd think they would have them further to the back of the room instead of up by the judge.

This is what is bugging me.... the court is real.... but I work in TV and there is no way a cameraman would show only the judge.... unless someone told him so...

The shot is clearly the judge and the flags.... it is the logical way to show it, it´s aesthetic.... and they also should show the seal of the jurisdiction or the name of the judge if they want to make a close shot.... not a shot of the garbage like in another murray case.....

If this is real..... then the cameraman sucks...... How can I explain??
I mean even if you don´t know anything about photography someone on vacation ask you to take him a picture so he stand up there and smile.... how do you take the picture?? you focus on him and whatever is behind.... a mountain... a sing... a flag... I don´t know.... but you don´t cut the background.... that is what you want to show... where you are....


That is why I think is intentional not to show the flags... and may be a clue.... I hope I make it clear... writing this in english is difficult for me....

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Michael Jackson News / Re: is there a photo of Michael and Murray together
« on: February 16, 2010, 01:55:00 PM »
I think there is not.... I´ve been looking for one since the beggining and couldn´t find it.....

It wouldn´t be weird if tmz releases one now... :lol:

For months we only had two or three pictures of Murray and now we can see him in carnaval.... so... I´m waiting for the picture with Michael... :lol:

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Other Odd Things / Re: THE ROLE OF DR.MURRAY
« on: February 16, 2010, 01:17:06 PM »
Quote from: "Venus7"
Quote from: "still beLIEve"
I think you´re not understanding the point of the hoax.... It is a crime if they falsify death records... I´m sure that is the reason why nobody sing the death certificate.... nobody of LAPD, UCLA or DA even talk about this.... the only one was Craig Harvey (btw he is listed as an actor and not listed as a chief officer)
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Ahhhhh very reliable..... twitter?? laweekly??? and...... the unofficial LAPD guide????

I was trying to show you some facts..... but really don´t care to argue.... think what you want... this is not a competition...

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Other Odd Things / Re: THE ROLE OF DR.MURRAY
« on: February 16, 2010, 12:29:38 PM »
Quote from: "Venus7"
Quote from: "mjjglory"
Well, everybody can have his own opinion on the case but   I don't think those who threatened Michael  could  create  such a deliberate plan of the hoax. Yes I agree that to take  money they invested into TII concerts  his bosses could make  a film to spread it all over the world not only because of  Michael's fans but for their own profit  .But  I don't believe they  could leave so many evidences  of the hoax death (BTW it's not too simple I think,there  should be  a lot of people engaged ) just for Michael's fans  to  search  for the truth on internet.
 It  was done on purpose by Michael himself and Dr Murray is a part of the plan.To me he wiil never be charged, they will be delaying the trial til Michael appears or til he makes a sign he's alive .

There is noooo way people from LAPD, UCLA, DA, Coroner would be involved in stuff like hoax. Its a crime to do such thing and nobody would put their reputation on line and go to jail for that.
And in case if he is under  WPP, then  everything would be done more quietly.
And if somehow this was a hoax, no way Mike would come out. For what he would come out-to get arrested? To make people angry? To give all the media more reasons to write about him in a nasty and mean way?


I think you´re not understanding the point of the hoax.... It is a crime if they falsify death records... I´m sure that is the reason why nobody sing the death certificate.... nobody of LAPD, UCLA or DA even talk about this.... the only one was Craig Harvey (btw he is listed as an actor and not listed as a chief officer)
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So how can you say they are involved?? that is exactly the point.... the media can show you anything.... if I go to the media and say the pope is dead..... and nobody denies it..... then all the world would think the pope is dead....

I´m sure there are reasons why they are not denying this..... we are investigating....

I suggest you to read here all the facts about this.... and if you still think it is more probable he was murder then go to a murder forum because it will be better for you and for us..... no intention to offend.... but It will be the best...

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Quote from: "Doctor Death"
IS TIAI REDIRECTING HERE???  :shock:

It redirects me to this
[youtube:8rozac1i]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgCMNCGskWo[/youtube:8rozac1i]

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Other Odd Things / Re: We want Michael back but...
« on: February 16, 2010, 01:44:31 AM »
Quote from: "airieslady"
Quote from: "still beLIEve"
I´m with you Dangerous.... I posted this somewhere in other post..... I really really want him back.... but when I think about I feel I´m not ready... the world is not ready....  I don´t feel it will be soon....

But when the time arrives.... I´m sure we will know.... and I just don´t know what I´m going to do... I think I will sell everything and will buy a plane ticket to wherever he will be... :D

Same here... my friends know I go to alot of concerts... I did alot last year.  So they asked me any good shows coming up.  I say I am not going to anything this year,  although I did see Lady Gaga out of curiosity... only show this year.  I am saving up my money for Michael and I have my passport ready!  They think I am crazy!   :lol:

See why I´m not ready! my passport!! I almost forget!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  but I did save vacations in my job... just in case....  :lol:  :lol:

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Other Odd Things / Re: Jacksons address hoax!!
« on: February 16, 2010, 12:59:44 AM »
I found this in twitter

ALLJACK5ONS
 
Pls understand we cant discuss. We wnt 2 make sure nothing WE say is used against justice. But, rest assured, we are on it. Always.
9:25 PM Feb 6th from web




it's important to raise our followers so we can share truths to fans over the coming months of media madness. that is very important to us.
9:29 PM Feb 6th from web



I think they are interesting......

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Michael Jackson News / Re: I Just got a clue.
« on: February 16, 2010, 12:31:39 AM »
Well.... I bought "this is it" and in the back of the box.... clearly says (in spanish) "This movie WAS PRODUCED WITH THE SUPPORT OF MICHAEL JACKSON... bla bla"

How about the english version? isn´t it there?

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Other Odd Things / Re: We want Michael back but...
« on: February 15, 2010, 11:40:15 PM »
I´m with you Dangerous.... I posted this somewhere in other post..... I really really want him back.... but when I think about I feel I´m not ready... the world is not ready....  I don´t feel it will be soon....

But when the time arrives.... I´m sure we will know.... and I just don´t know what I´m going to do... I think I will sell everything and will buy a plane ticket to wherever he will be... :D

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Other Odd Things / Re: Did you notice that...!
« on: February 15, 2010, 02:49:48 PM »
Here it is.....

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Valentine's Day BAM?
« on: February 14, 2010, 04:11:20 AM »
I think it´s soon too....

I don´t know about you.... but although I want him back with all my heart... I can feel is not the time... I think we´ll be sure when the time arrives....

If he left us all the clues.... don´t you think he will let us know in some way?

Remember we are not a majority here.... it will still be a surprise for the world....

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Murray left voicemail
« on: February 14, 2010, 04:04:25 AM »
It is obviously a code message...

Maybe I´m so convinced of the hoax already that can´t think of other option.... but if I try to think he murdered him and was so relax on that call... hmmmmm I don´t think so....

So.... maybe Michael was not at the house that day.... and HE is Bob.... or.... maybe there was someone they had to let him know about the plan beggining....

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Michael Jackson News / Re: BIG CLUE CHECK OUT THIS
« on: February 14, 2010, 03:52:10 AM »
Quote from: "loyalfan"
I WAS LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE COULD NOT SEE THE PONYTAIL GUY.....BUT....KEPT WATCHING IT OVER AND OVER UNTIL........WITH IT PAUSED AND PAUSED AND PAUSED....THERE HE IS......LOOKS LIKE MICHEAL TO ME.......B UT I HAVE ....2 QUESTIONS......1. WHY  WOULD MICHEAL "HAVE" TO TAKE PART  IN THIS AT ALL?????..ITS A HUGE RISK......2. WAS THE PONYTAIL PIC.....ADDED ON AS AN AFTER THOUGHT...............??????XXXXXXX

You are right.... I think the same... I found another video where you can see clearly the pony tale guy... but it looks photoshoped to me....
[youtube:2q4j2usv]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP-HpaSGTaE[/youtube:2q4j2usv]

I don´t remember where this pictures came from the first time... do you?

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