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« on: January 16, 2012, 05:22:23 PM »
p.s.: If you are trying to cast doubt on TS yet again regarding level 7, it's not going to work, because some of us realize that TS like the rest of us is human and also Michael's Hoax is complicated and complex. So we are being patient.
What is your problem? I was just asking because I had totally forgotten about that and was wondering if I might have missed something. This thread is for people who want to discuss if TS could be Tim Simkin, so if you are not interested in that, then you should probably leave this thread.
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« on: January 16, 2012, 05:10:27 PM »
@Sarah31 At this stage in the Hoax what do people expect if not whispers and "cryptic" messages? Do they expect everything to be spelled out in Black & White? Come on people! There is a right time for all to be revealed. Until then some of us appreciate and understand those whispers from behind the curtain. If whispers and cryptic messages are not for you, there is no need to ridicule and be sarcastic. Again, don't read Front's/TS's posts. It's simple.
What do I expect? The thing is, the cryptic messages can always be interpreted in all kinds of ways, even in opposite directions, like I said above. They are written like a horoscope. One can read into them whatever they wish to be true. I, and I'm sure other people as well, could interpret them in a totally different way, but people don't want to hear this, so I would never bother.
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« on: January 16, 2012, 04:57:31 PM »
Yeah, that's right, I'm not interested in following TS and hanging on every word he says and believing it to be the gospel.
But you do follow him.
Not as a faithful follower. If you get the difference. As long as this is still going on, as long as these people (and who knows, maybe new ones at some point) keep posting, nothing is completely "concluded". I don't know 100 % who is behind those names, as long as I don't know 100 %, I'll keep watching. As far as my time allows me to.
So you do admit that you believe there is a possibility that TS is legitimate. So then why all the animosity? How does arguing about it help you discover the truth about his identity?
Of course there is always the possibility ... but what I meant is that there could be several people behind the TS account, Tim Simkin is one of them, but it's not the only one. It could also be more than one person. And I'm so glad that Front explained everything in a cryptic way ...
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« on: January 16, 2012, 04:44:03 PM »
Btw. - whatever happened to level 7?
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« on: January 16, 2012, 04:38:36 PM »
Yeah, that's right, I'm not interested in following TS and hanging on every word he says and believing it to be the gospel.
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« on: January 16, 2012, 04:22:20 PM »
By your own words you have concluded your investigation (bolded by me for reference), and additionally have such strong, negative views about this site, so then why do you linger? As long as this is still going on, as long as these people (and who knows, maybe new ones at some point) keep posting, nothing is completely "concluded". I don't know 100 % who is behind those names, as long as I don't know 100 %, I'll keep watching. As far as my time allows me to.
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« on: January 16, 2012, 04:01:43 PM »
Oh, so this is all a test, a mind game? I thought Michael had some serious reasons for this hoax, and now playing mind games and "testing" believers is one of them? That doesn't sound very likable at all.
Well maybe you thought incorrectly. Or perhaps more accurately, maybe you are too short sighted in your assessment. I am personally of the opinion that this hoax is for many reasons; multiple serious agendas being fulfilled via an entertainment vessel. I do believe the ARG aspect is a game designed to promote spiritual (non-religious) awakening and self exploration/awareness. You want to call that mind games, fine. I disagree with you.
But then perhaps I am thinking incorrectly as well.
Seriously, if someone just wants to test me, play with me, manipulate me - or do this to other people, they can go eff themselves. Nothing justifies that, not even a death hoax for serious reasons. That is my honest opinion. And one of the reasons why I always questioned certain "insiders". And come on, if they themselves are saying "I'm testing you" - I don't want to be on the receiving end of this, in general and especially not if I don't even know who this person is, because it's just some anonymous username on the internet. I don't want to be the mouse running through the labyrinth while someone is watching me, may the intentions be good or bad. A decent human being doesn't use other human beings that way.
Well see, but again, if that's how you feel, and I DO respect it, you have a choice to disregard and move on to something else you deem more worthy of your time. No one is trying to force you to watch and read and keep track of, least of all TS. You can click the red X and move on. Everyone makes a personal choice to participate in TS threads or not. They aren't pop ups when you visit the site or anything.
bec, now what makes you think that just because I don't believe in those "insiders", I'm not interested in investigating them? In watching what they are doing? That is why I follow certain threads on here, I want to know who is doing this and why, some people just want to believe that Michael is behind the "insiders" and just don't want anyone doubting them for the simple reason that they themselves don't have 110 % trust in them, because there is no real proof, but there are things pointing in some other directions too. Those who believe in those "insiders" don't want to be reminded of that. I don't know about you, but I am here to investigate, and the things that point in other directions make a lot more sense than TS being an actual insider (and the same goes for Front, just because they "legitimized" each other doesn't have to mean they are Michael or close to Michael, it could be just one fake legitimzing the other fake). I am here to investigate and find the truth, not follow some anonymous users because they are good at being cryptic and writing like a horoscope (meaning, it can be interpreted in all kinds of ways, even in opposite ways, so you can read whatever you want into it). If you investigate something, you have to keep an open mind and look at all directions. Which I did. If you just look into one and then talk about "faith", that's the opposite of an investigation. This forum is not called "Michael Jackson Death Hoax Church".
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« on: January 16, 2012, 01:40:03 PM »
So, it doesn't matter if TS is a preacher or if it is Michael.
I don't get this, how does it not matter? The people who believe in "TS" also believe that he is either Michael or someone working for Michael or a family member giving clues for the hoax, etc. Now if it turns out none of that is true and it's just some preacher using the forum and the believers for his own agenda, claiming that he is an "insider" and close to Michael, when his agenda has nothing to do with Michael, how does that not matter, especially after doing this for 2.5 years? And without "TS", if he is just some preacher, a big part of the whole hoax theory is just breaking off and away. So how does this not matter?
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« on: January 16, 2012, 01:29:20 PM »
Oh, so this is all a test, a mind game? I thought Michael had some serious reasons for this hoax, and now playing mind games and "testing" believers is one of them? That doesn't sound very likable at all.
Well maybe you thought incorrectly. Or perhaps more accurately, maybe you are too short sighted in your assessment. I am personally of the opinion that this hoax is for many reasons; multiple serious agendas being fulfilled via an entertainment vessel. I do believe the ARG aspect is a game designed to promote spiritual (non-religious) awakening and self exploration/awareness. You want to call that mind games, fine. I disagree with you.
But then perhaps I am thinking incorrectly as well.
Seriously, if someone just wants to test me, play with me, manipulate me - or do this to other people, they can go eff themselves. Nothing justifies that, not even a death hoax for serious reasons. That is my honest opinion. And one of the reasons why I always questioned certain "insiders". And come on, if they themselves are saying "I'm testing you" - I don't want to be on the receiving end of this, in general and especially not if I don't even know who this person is, because it's just some anonymous username on the internet. I don't want to be the mouse running through the labyrinth while someone is watching me, may the intentions be good or bad. A decent human being doesn't use other human beings that way.
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« on: January 16, 2012, 12:15:28 PM »
Oh, so this is all a test, a mind game? I thought Michael had some serious reasons for this hoax, and now playing mind games and "testing" believers is one of them? That doesn't sound very likable at all.
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« on: January 16, 2012, 10:55:57 AM »
reading reading reading and I still don't know what to believe.
Please someone can tell me how people found out of Tim Simkin in the first place?
Let's say I'm new to TIAI and STUDY and I read and I am suspicious - what should I google to get to Tim Simkin without knowing from before that Tim Simkin exists? Let's say I only know about TS, TIAI and Study. How do I get to Tim Simkin?
As far as I remember it was an IP thing, don't remember the details though. And even without that, I think if you just google certain things like certain phrases maybe and things like "S.T.U.D.Y." Google will probably give you certain website.
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« on: January 16, 2012, 10:53:04 AM »
If TS really doesn't want to reveal who he is until after the BAM then it wouldn't make sense to make it so obvious. Tim Simkin - same intials, STUDY site and former username, etc. It takes only a few seconds to google and find the name Tim Simkin from the info we were given. If TS is this guy, he didn't try very hard at concealing it. Maybe he didn't care much about concealing it. Maybe all he wanted was to make it all a bit mysterious to keep people guessing, maybe he wants people to check out his website, etc. And he knows a lot about Michael ... maybe he is a fan. Or maybe not even that, a lot of things about Michael are widely known and you can do a bit of research in a couple of hours on the net and you'll know a lot. And I agree - there are a lot of ties between TS and Simkin, if you accept ties between the family and certain posters just for using the same words, then by the same "rule" you have to accept the obvious ties between TS and Simkin. It can't be true in one case, because it fits with the theory, and not true in the other case, because it doesn't fit ... And the ties between TS and Simkin aren't just words either. There is the phrase "Study to understand doctrines yourself", it's the entire religious approach. The usernames "TS" and "S.T.U.D.Y.", etc.
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« on: January 15, 2012, 12:17:43 PM »
Oh, ok, veronicafall.
bec, so what's with all the posts of all the regulars on here saying that one of the reasons for the hoax is that Michael wants to make the world aware of the illuminati mind control and wants to defeat them? This is indeed a movie, but one that already was in theaters a couple of years ago.
And how is this easier to believe than believing that Sony is behind the hoax (including this forum or not)? I've heard this rumor a million times, people thinking that this is just a promotion tool for Sony.
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« on: January 15, 2012, 12:00:13 PM »
veronicafall, it was a sarcastic reply to bec's post. How long have you been on this forum? The consensus on this forum is that the illuminati control the entire world with mind control. So you have to ask the other people who have been claiming that for 2.5 years why the illuminati would be interested in believers and the entire world.
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« on: January 15, 2012, 11:43:20 AM »
I can understand why Sony would be interested in us (IF they are in the hoax), but why would Illuminati be interested in a bunch of beLIEvers?!
You have to ask the people on this forum, I didn't claim it, but they have been claiming this for 2.5 years.
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