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TMZ Articles / TMZ: Joe Jackson -- Let Him Eat Steak
« on: April 01, 2010, 11:17:52 AM »
Joe Jackson -- Let Him Eat Steak
Posted Apr 1st 2010 8:25AM by TMZ Staff

Michael Jackson's dad Joe Jackson is hungry for justice ... and a good filet.


Joe ate a steak dinner yesterday at Wolfgang's Steakhouse in Bev Hills.

One of our restaurant spies asked the waiter if Joe was a good tipper ... he just rolled his eyes and said, "No comment, but that's life."

It's hard to hit the town big on an allowance.
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Tags: death investigation, DeathInvestigation, dr. conrad murray, Dr.ConradMurray, eating, food, joe jackson, JoeJackson, lawsuit, michael jackson, MichaelJackson, restaurant, steak, suit, wolfgang puck, WolfgangPuck, wrongful death, WrongfulDeath



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Why they have a tag to Murray-??

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Other Odd Things / captain EO reloaded...
« on: March 31, 2010, 08:03:19 PM »
FYI

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Other Odd Things / 3 Versions of CORONER VAN==????
« on: March 30, 2010, 06:07:59 PM »
I know that this video is posted such a long time ago
But I never heard the person breathing so fast. 19-22 sec.
It seems that he is afraid that somebody can see him... I never heard it like this... can you hear the ambulance??? :o
If RTL faked this video why should there be an ambulance in the background?
Sorry if it was mentioned before..

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Other Odd Things / 777: UPDATE No 3: ELVIS, Michael and the FAKE DEATH
« on: March 23, 2010, 10:07:03 PM »
777: UPDATE No 3: ELVIS, Michael and the FAKE DEATH

In the third UPDATE I want to talk about the obsession with 7 and the strange circumstances of ELVIS death.... with many similarities to Michael's death....

At first I begin with Elivs live.....

Career:
•   Nominated 14 times for grammy (7+7)
•   151 Gold-Platinum Records (7)
•   14 number one records (7+7)
•   Country-Charts 7 number one hits
•   Heartbreak Hotel spent 17 weeks at number 1 on Billboards Country Chart.
•   His records have spent a total of 79 weeks at the number 1 position in the U.S.
•   Many of Elvis’ songs were recorded on 7-inch records.
•   On 7 July (7th month) 1954, Elvis debuted on radio.
•   "Jailhouse Rock" was the first ever music video. ? Thriller was the first longtime music video
•   “Suspicious Minds was another difficult song to sing. The incomplete takes appear here for the first time. The line "would I still see suspicion in your eyes" has Elvis stumbling. At one point, he sings in frustration, "would I still see, see see, **** you, rider". There are seven takes here. Take 8 was the master.
•   Elvis did 20 takes of  In The Ghetto only 7 are including the almost perfect take one. Clearly, everyone knew how important this song was going to be which explains the many different backing variations and keys that Elvis had to sing. Each take is a joy to listen, whether complete or not. The Roger Miller song From A Jack To A King (Jacko?????) was recorded to please his father.
•   56: 25(7)  April, He signed a 7 year contract:t with Paramount Pictures
•   1956 – 1963 (7 year period)  35 Hits in the Top 20
•   At the beginning he wanted 25% of selling
•   Last TV show at CBS at  6.1.1957
•   61 he abandoned singing to live audiences and turned exclusively to film making.
•   7 years later in 68 he started his comeback
•   ELVIS: ’68 Comeback Special - Deluxe Edition DVD” is a seven-hour, three-disc set featuring all the material shot for Elvis Presley’s 1968 television special
•   The time from 1970 till his death at 1977 (7 years period)Elvis spent touring in concerts all over the United States - around 1,000 concerts total.

Other strange things:
•   His “Hound Dog” jet has “N777EP” in large letters
•   The $7 telephone card (shown above) features ELVIS AARON PRESLEY wearing his gold lame' suit-- one of the world's most famous and valuable costumes. (Michael Jackson Gold pants) Officially licensed by Elvis Presley Enterprises, Inc. in 1994. One gram of 999.9 fine gold encased in plastic. Created by AmeriVox / Luis Vigdor / Powell Associates, Inc. and produced in Japan by Mitsubishi Corporation. Limited to 77 test cards and only 9777 cards in the public release. This glorious, precious metal collectible is one of many officially licensed Elvis Presley phone cards that illustrate the connection between Elvis and 7. (Original face value of calling time was once $7. Over 7 years ago these Elvis gold cards sold for $117. The 77 test cards may be 7x more valuable.)
•   The World of Elvis AmeriVox phone card series included 22 telephone calling cards with striking images of the King of Rock n’ Roll. Within the series, 7 telephone cards had a denomination of $7, including a solid gold card produced by Mitsubishi in Japan. A $7.77 Elvis card depicted Elvis teaching his pet chimpanzee Scatter to “read” on a movie set in 1962. Production was limited to 25,777.
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•   Graceland is about 14 acres ( Neverland??)
•   The lightest Elvis ever weighed as an adult was 170 lbs.
•   Elvis favourite drink: Pepsi.
•   On 21.12.(also Michael related)1970, Presley met President Nixon at the White House
•   One of his favorite movies was the Magnificent Seven
•   Lived in Germany: Bad Nauheim, street: Goethestraße no 14
•   Met his wife at the Goehtestraße: Priscilla Beaulieu, she was 14 years old at this time..
•   Elvis Presley married Priscilla Beaulieu in 1967 after 7 years of courtship
•   Elvis owned 18 TVs, including one installed on the ceiling over his bed.
•   Elvis adopted a chimpanzee called Scatter.


Michael Jackson/ Elvis/ Lisa Marie
•   In 1975, seven-year-old Lisa Marie visited her dad, who was performing in Lake Tahoe. He arranged to have her go backstage to meet the lead singer of one of the hottest boy bands of the era: 17-year-old Michael Jackson.
? Long time friendship?!?!?!
•   Michael married Lisa Marie



Death:
•   Elvis died in 1977 on 16 August (1+6=7).
•   He had gone to sleep that morning around 7 a.m.
•   At the time of his death, he was planning a European tour.
•   Elvis died totally unexpectedly in 1977 from heart attack, prescription drug abuse being indicated as a cause.
•   The ambulance took Elvis from Graceland at 2147 Elvis Presley Boulevard to Baptist Hospital 7 miles away.
•   The Tennessee Historical Marker in front of Elvis’ Graceland is numbered 4E 77.
•   In his will, Elvis left everything to Lisa Marie, who would take full control of it when she turned 25.
•   Elvis was christened Elvis Aron Presley, but his gravestone reads Elvis Aaron Presley
Towards the end of his life, Elvis sought to add an ‘a’ to his middle name to make it a biblical name.
?Michael Joe Jackson ft. Michael Joseph Jackson
•   1997 Article: He's still dead, but he has a new release. (new four-CD set 'Elvis Presley Platinum: A Life in Music' contains 100 unreleased songs by Presley and some of his favorite music by other artists)(Brief Article) CD : A Life in Music 70 Dollar
•   2008 Incoming 52 (7) Mil US- Dollar


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REPORTAGE ABOUT ELVIS FAKE DEATH
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[youtube:jqcoevit]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glVGneYyJ44&feature=related[/youtube:jqcoevit]

Pricilla Presley about Elvis and fake death:
[youtube:jqcoevit]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1PtbLpFt4Q&feature=channel[/youtube:jqcoevit]
P.S. At first she spokes very very fast… and then look how she changes the way of speaking… also a signal of lying… after this she speaks fluently again

Just a short announcement by
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by Copyright © 2010 Elvis Presley Enterprises, Inc. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
P.S. They have a extra site with Elvis sightings…. Strange isn’t it? The site is owned by his (former) enterprise…
Ok, their announcement….

THE KING...IS BACK! TO COMPLETE HIS EUROPEAN TOUR!
Elvis Presley In Concert will return for another European tour in 2010. This astounding production reunites some of Elvis' former bandmates live on stage with a state of the art video-projected Elvis. This latest tour will include engagements in England, Ireland, Scotland, Holland, and other European
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Tickets for all dates are on sale now.

Click here to buy 2010 Elvis Presley in Concert merchandise online.
And there is a tribute show at CIRQUE DU SOLEIL….. VIVA ELVIS
Some parts of the tribute show remember me of the memorial, This is it: The way you make me feel
And  at the end of the show there is the victory sign with the body of the actors…  
Have a look:
She also speaks about Michael Jackson in part 2:
Lisa marie and Michael remain friends?!?!?!?!?
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[youtube:jqcoevit]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN7McTFCJiU&NR=1[/youtube:jqcoevit]
[youtube:jqcoevit]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMX2syxytMs&feature=related[/youtube:jqcoevit]

And by the way, why do they show a picture of LUNEBURG in north england after Part 2???
Is Elvis hiding there?????
Are they giving us clues??? Like on this video:
[youtube:jqcoevit]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4C9BPdzbVo&NR=1[/youtube:jqcoevit]

Maybe Michael and Elvis come back together? ?


An other interesting article…. For those who have time...  :mrgreen:
What happened to the hearse used in Elvis's funeral?

I have pondered on this issue, and it seems that great minds think alike, as I have been asked this question by more than one visitor to this site. Here is what I've come up with:

"Allan: The car used to remove Elvis' body was a '75 Miller-Meteor Landau. The car used in the funeral service itself was a '77 Miller-Meteor Landau, which was the first of the new downsized Cadillac chassis.
As to someone who collects Elvis memorabilia not snapping that car up, that's fairly easy to figure. When the Cadillac commercial chassis was downsized, sales plummeted in part due to the downsizing itself. With the smaller size, it was the death knell for new ambulances built on the Cadillac commercial chassis, and that cut the demand, and thus the production, of the chassis. The chassis itself was no longer nearly as special a design as it was before, either, which hurt its sales, too. Previous commercial chassis were more specialized in the rear suspension area, with the leaf spring rear suspension, which in turn allowed for a lower rear floor, and thus lower loading height for hearses and ambulances. The height from the ground to the rear floor increased something like 5 or 6 inches in that one model year's change, and that didn't go over well at all.

With the radical (for a Cadillac commercial chassis) change, and the natural plummet in overall sales of same, prices of new hearses and ambulances on this chassis doubled almost overnight. Annual demand for Cadillac commercial chassis went from something like 2000 units or more per year to about 900 units per year. With all the goofiness of the safety and pollution standards at the time, new American car prices were going up constantly at a time when people were used to a moderate consistency from year to year, and people were complaining about the "sticker schock" of new car prices in general; so the price of a new hearse at about $30,000 was outrageous to anyone at the time. At that, downsized hearse prices held up far better on the used vehicle market for a far longer time than the older cars did, so it was a comparatively long time before any downsized hearses found their way out of service with mortuaries.

Other factors to be considered as well include the fact that it was in August of '77 that the first major meet of the Professional Car Society was held in Cincinnati, and since then, hearses have become far more acceptable at car meets here than they were back then. Elvis memorabilia wasn't as hot an item back then, either, as it seems like people won't let Elvis die and rest in peace, as evidenced by all the odd rumors since of people seeing Elvis somewhere. For that matter, presuming the car might have been traded in at a point where it was still worth $25,000 on the used coach market, that kind of money would buy a lot of memorabilia that would hold much more value in future years than that hearse might have. And 25 grand was still a lot of money at such a time when the car was probably traded in, which might have been around 1981".


Thoughts from PCS member Dennis Goethe:

"Elvis' funeral was directed by the Memphis Funeral Home - an SCI (Service Corporation International) Funeral Home. As you may know, SCI is a very large consolidator of funeral home properties, owning literally thousands and thousands of funeral homes and cemeteries across the world.

I have always assumed that the hearse is a Miller-Meteor, based on the style of the draperies, the aluminum trim piece behind the second side door, and the shape of the landau bars.

SCI was notorious in those years for keeping their cars until they fell apart. In St. Louis, where I am, cars of this era were run well into the mid-late 1980s. Memphis Funeral Home is a high-volume firm and had (has) quite a fleet of identical cars. I wonder if, after a few years, anyone remembered which of the hearses actually carried Elvis to his grave (or from the hospital, or from the funeral home to Graceland, for that matter)!

Since this was an SCI location, I wonder if the livery was bought through their home offices in Houston, TX. I believe that is the way they do it now, rather than going though a local hearse dealer.

Well, lots of non-information for you. Maybe more than you knew before, maybe not".


Comments from PCS member Danny Ryder:

I saw your website about Elvis's hearse and thought I would tell you where it went. It got traded to Houston Brothers Hearse Sales (formerly Crain's of Atlanta). The owner's son was taking it to resale in Florida I believe when it caught fire and burned on side of the interstate (Highway 75).

And here is the most definitive answer yet!

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On 18th August 1977, after a private service inside Graceland, Elvis's body was placed in a gleaming white 1977 Miller-Meteor Landau Traditional Cadillac hearse.

Then, a brilliantly shining silver Cadillac limousine led the procession, with the hearse followed by sixteen white Cadillac limousines carrying the mourners to the Memphis Cemetery.

My name is Chuck Houston, President of Houston Brothers, Inc., a funeral car dealer in Marietta, GA. Around 1984, I was the last person to drive the hearse that carried Elvis to his grave. Our Company, then known as Crain S&S Sales which my father owned, bought, sold, leased and traded cars with SCI. He did so for many years. He originally sold the car new to SCI. We came back into possession of Elvis's hearse when Memphis FH updated their rolling stock.

We were loaning the hearse to a funeral home in South Florida until their new vehicle was ready for delivery. My father was reluctant to loan the car out. He wanted to hang on to it, the only car he ever wanted keep in 50 years of business. The funeral home in Florida was one of his biggest customers and needed a white/white loaner desperately. Elvis's hearse happened to be the only white hearse on the lot. Another employee and myself, both of us about 21 at the time (we were going to drop off the car and then spend a few days of spring break in Ft. Lauderdale) took off toward Miami on I-75 around 7:00 pm. Around 10:00 we ran out of gas just north of Valdosta, GA. What was odd is that a tank of gas in those days would carry you from Marietta, GA to the Live Oak exit in Florida with gas left in the tank. That was based on the many, many cars my friend and I delivered to the south Florida area in the early 80's. Therefore we never checked the gas gauge until we were in the vicinity of Live Oak.

After running out of gas, we walked about two miles to the next exit, bought a can and some gas and started back up the north bound return ramp toward Elvis's hearse. Before reaching the highway a Lowndes County Sherriff stopped us, asked where we were going and called us a cab. We got her going again and headed for the gas station to fill her up. Heading south again, we were on our way. Just as the weigh station (the last one on southbound 75) came into sight the engine cut off. I dropped her into neutral while travelling around 65 mph and turned the ignition. When I did, fire shot out from under the hood on both sides. I eased her to the shoulder next to the weigh station return ramp and my friend and I jumped from the hearse as the fire engulfed the front end of the hearse.

My friend and I met at the rear of the car and realized all of our possessions were in the rear of the hearse and the doors were locked. We couldn't get back in the front to retrieve the keys due to the fire having already spread. A truck driver appeared with a fire extinguisher but it was too late. Neither of us wanted to get close for fear the hearse would blow up. So there we stood and watched as Elvis's hearse went up in flames. A fire truck finally arrived and all they could save was the rear quarter panels, the rear door and bumper. Twin Lakes Towing picked the hearse up around 2:00 am and carried it to their lot. The D.O.T. Enforcement Officer carried us to the Ramada Inn.

The next morning we caught a cab over to Twin Lakes Towing and waited for our wrecker to show up from Marietta. While waiting at the towing co. all I could think was that I burned up Elvis's hearse and my dad was going to kill me. The remains sat on our back lot (Hwy. 41 / Cobb Pkwy) until 1989 when it was finally put through a car crusher and hauled off. My friend and I sat there and watched as it was crushed. Other than the VIN, the hearse was identifiable by the number on the lower right hand side of the rear window. I can't remember the number at the moment but I want to say seven. The number is visible on some of the footage of Elvis's funeral. There is one scene where the hearse is turning left when it is plainly visible. The number sticker was still on the vehicle the day it was crushed. Out of the thousands of hearses my father has sold over the years, this one was special. We always say that Elvis didn't want his hearse to end up in south Florida.

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Other Odd Things / OMG NEW SONY MOVIE°°°FALSE DEATH PERSON
« on: March 21, 2010, 12:52:32 PM »
Sony's new movie is called:

DEATH AT A FUNERAL
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And you know what? The film is about a funeral ceremony whcih turns into a debacle of exposed family secrets and misplaced bodies.

In the movie there is the wrong person placed in the casket.... Oh my god...


And the best thing.. on the trailer they said something like: The coffin has moved... there is somebody in it!!!!!! :shock:  :shock:  :shock:
And they twittered (? :mrgreen: ) :

Funerals are important; it’s the time to say good-bye to that person, and the money they owe you. Via @DeathAtAFuneral - in theaters 4/16


Just a coincidence?!?!?!?

I don't think so....

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Michael Jackson News / help of Impersonator & Damien shields TII
« on: March 17, 2010, 08:01:14 AM »
Hello!
I found MJ watching THIS IS IT

[youtube:3fap50r7]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ApihM2jAVE[/youtube:3fap50r7]

Ok there was an Impersonator who helped MJ. So he is able to dance his moves right? Means they have used an Impersonator....
maybe not for the film but for rehearsals and for stunts for sure...

and then I found an Impersonator named Damien shields...

Wasn't Damien shields also a dancer at THIS IS IT?????

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Other Odd Things / MUST READ - Interview with Kenny.....
« on: March 17, 2010, 05:17:10 AM »
Many many clues by Kenny...

Michael WAS in editing room
This is it started as one project and became an other
2 years planning.....

And also that SONY has worked with them and supported them with the film...

etc. etc.

VERY VERY INTERESTING!!!!!!!
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Imagine being the person with the responsibility of directing the the last filmed documentary of Michael Jackson before his untimely death. Kenny Ortega, the director of the movie "Michael Jackson’s This Is It," had that enormous challenge, and he says it was the hardest thing he’s ever had to do in his life. "This Is It" shows Jackson on stage and behind the scenes during rehearsals for his "This Is It" concerts, which were scheduled to begin in July 2009 at the O2 Arena in London. Jackson died on June 25, 2009 — less than three weeks before the 50-concert series began. An autopsy ruled the death a homicide from acute Propofol intoxication.

The world will never get to see Jackson perform those concerts, but the "This Is It" movie is the closest thing to having an idea what the concerts would have been like. The day of the "This Is It" press junket in New York City, 12 minutes of footage were shown to select members of the media. The footage was of Jackson in various outfits performing "The Way You Make Me Feel" (with dancers in a high-rise construction-site backdrop) and "Human Nature." I can definitely say that any false rumors of Jackson’s voice and energy level being sub par should be put to rest after people see this footage. It was captivating and very poignant to see what Jackson was like during his final days.

I asked Michael Bearden, the musical director of "This Is It," if Jackson had planned to have surprise guests during any of the concerts, Bearden revealed that Janet Jackson, Mariah Carey, Diana Ross, Mick Jagger and Lady Gaga had all expressed interest in doing surprise appearances, and that Michael was making accommodations in the show’s production in case any of the guest performances happened.

When I sat down with Ortega at the "This Is It" press junket (which took place less a week before Ortega parted ways with the "Footloose" movie remake), he understandably got emotional when talking about Michael Jackson. ("I cried three or four times this morning," Ortega said. "It’s a common occurrence for me.") In this candid interview, choreographer/director Ortega shared his favorite memories Michael Jackson, what it was like to take on the difficult challenge of making the "This Is It" film in such a short period of time, and the real reasons why Michael Jackson wanted to do the "This Is It" concerts.


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Michael Jackson and Kenny Ortega during the rehearsals for "This Is It"


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What was the greatest thing you learned from Michael Jackson as an entertainer?

I grew in the theater — loving the theater — so I grew up with that discipline, that appreciation for the hard work that goes into doing great theater. And that was one of the big connections that Michael and I had: the respect for the work and a respect for the audience.

And I would say it was my favorite part of working with Michael, because you were always reminded of that all-important idea. So many people don’t even know it, let alone practice it. You know, it’s not just something that’s given to you if you’re in music. It comes from a kind of a training, an upbringing, an investment in something that comes from study and practice and thought. And Michael was about that.

Michael had principles. Michael had a real responsibility as a performer. People stood in line, they slept in sleeping bags, they paid money that they sometimes didn’t have to see you. You better give it all. And don’t just show up on the day and give it all. Do the work before you get there, so they’re really, really getting your all. And I love being around that kind of energy, that kind of individual.


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Kenny Ortega at the Michael Jackson public memorial in Los Angeles, July 2009


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You seemed so protective of Michael in the footage that was shown …

He was protective of me! Even though you might not see as much of it in the context of the director/entertainer relationship that you see in the film, behind the scenes [Michael said to me], "Are you OK, Kenny? You promise? Did you eat?" "Michael, I ate. You eat! Eat this salad. Drink this protein shake. Are they taking care of you? Do you have everything you need? Are they talking nice to you?" Michael was always so concerned.

One time, not on this last project, but on an earlier project we did years ago, a lighting designer raised his voice at me. And Michael came over and whispered in my ear, "You can fire him if you want to. Don’t let him talk to you like that." Michael was very protective of everybody he cared about and loved and invited to be a part of his family. He was very respectful of us all. He gave us a voice. He listened. And he really enjoyed taking our ideas.

He was a real collaborator. It didn’t matter whose idea it was. We would forget. I would say, "That was the best idea." "That wasn’t that idea; that was your idea." "No, it wasn’t. That was your idea." "Nuh-uh! You threw that up on the wall last night, and I wasn’t even sure of it, and now I like it. And don’t try to credit me. That was your idea." He was just a really great guy in that respect.


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Michael Jackson at the rehearsals for "This Is It"


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This is a project that started out as one thing and became another. Can you talk about that?

Whew! The turnaround of this title. The first time I heard "This Is It" was when I heard it from Michael when he picked up the phone and called me. After two years of us having discussions and meetings and hanging out and calling each other from different parts of the world, when Michael was saying, "I’m entertaining this idea, I’m considering this idea. So far, nothing is making me feel that there’s enough purpose behind it that I want to invest myself in it."

When I got this phone call, Michael said, "Kenny, this is it." And that title went on to mean many things. And he would say that, too. We’d be in a session, we’d be hanging out. And he goes, "This is it. Now it’s become about something else. This is it. This is my call to arms. This show has to be my platform to remind people of the important messages in my songs. The world is losing love. We have to love each other more. We have to work harder to take care of this planet."

And he would find more and more and more reason to invest his heart, his time, his energy into this project. And so what I did when this project transitioned was at first I pulled back. I thought, "Nuh-uh. I’m too emotional. There’s no way I’d have the creative objectivity and look at this material. I’m hurting too deeply. I’m confused. I’m lost. I’m afraid."

And then I looked at the material and I thought, "That’s our work! That’s our last work. This is sacred. This is the last documentation of Michael Jackson in his final theatrical work. Get it together, man! The journey’s not over. This is your job. This is your responsibility."

And it was heavy. It is a weight I have felt through all of this that has been enormous. I brought Michael into the room with me. Michael was in the editing room with me every single step of the way. I would just ask, "Is that what you want? Is that right? Is that good enough? Is that what the fans need?" And I just kept him alive with me all through the second part of this experience.

I was just telling somebody the other day, "The day I had to give this movie away …" [He exhales loudly and chokes up with tears in his eyes.] … The day they told me I had to hand this movie in was like I was giving him up, and it was one of the hardest days for me. It really was. This is all very real for me.


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Kenny Ortega at the Michael Jackson public memorial in Los Angeles, July 2009


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What’s the biggest part of "This Is It" that shows the message that Michael Jackson wanted to give?

Without giving it away, I just think it’s one of the most precious moments of the film. I always get so disappointed when I go to the movies and I see a trailer and they give you the most precious moments of the film. They just spill it all out there. And after a while when you’ve seen enough of them, you just go, "You’re robbing me of my first-time experience [seeing the movie]."

Michael had a thing for everybody. He would tell everyone, grab us all, and put everybody in a room and say, "Don’t talk about this to anybody. We must keep everything here a secret, because when the audience comes to see this, they have to come and experience it for the first time. We don’t want them building things up in their mind … We want them to come, and when we open up this show, we want them to say to themselves, ‘How are they possibly going to go beyond that?’"

In the case of this film, Michael in his own words carries this message through, the message that he wanted most importantly to share with his audiences is through this show. I won’t say anything more than that except that it’s Michael himself that does it. That’s why I can sleep at night and why I feel good in my heart that what we’re providing here is giving the fans what Michael intended to give them. It’s the reason behind doing this concert in the first place.


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Michael Jackson at the rehearsals for "This Is It"


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Can you talk about how Michael’s performances were translated into storytelling in this film?

He was a great storyteller. Everything began from that. When we would sit around a room and talk about ideas, it began not with a song but with the choreography. "What are we trying to say here? What is the reason behind this moment in the show?"

At the end of the show, Michael said, "When the audience leaves the arena, Kenny, I don’t want them to be able to go to sleep that night. I want to fill them with so much they have to think about: how they were entertained, moved, motivated that the sun should be rising with them text messaging, e-mailing and having conversations about what they walked away from." That was about the story aspects of the show.

So he was a man of theater, a man of story. He valued it. We did 10 little short films together that were to appear in the concert in different intervals and different capacities. Some stood on their own, some were interactive, some became scenes, living backdrops to what was happening in the production on the stage — and all of them were moving the story forward. So the story was there for me.

And the positive side of moving into this [film] so quickly is that everything was so fresh. I knew what the story was. We didn’t have a script to make this movie, God knows. But the story of what Michael wanted to do was right there. So all I had to do was go in there and just tell that story.

This is like a mosaic, more than a documentary, more than a concert film. It’s a mosaic: pieces, remnants, anything we could get our hands on to piece together a colorful means of telling the story of what Michael’s intentions were for "This Is It."


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Michael Jackson (pictured second from right) at the rehearsals for "This Is It"


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When you said that Michael wanted to people to have trouble sleeping after seeing the "This Is It" concert, was that part of him in the editing room with you for this movie?

That’s so funny. No. [He laughs.] I might’ve forgotten that one. We weren’t a finished concert. We had eight more days [of concert rehearsals] left in Los Angeles and two weeks of technical rehearsals in London [before Michael Jackson died] … so we were still a work in progress. It was more about … following Michael’s death, the outpouring of interest from the fans was enormous. "Please … tell us anything! What was ‘This Is It’? I had my tickets. I stood in the rain. I cannot believe I’m not going to get to see this. Show us the concert!"

I can’t show you the concert. We didn’t finish the concert. Michael’s not here. So in looking at the material, where I sort of invited Michael into the space with me, it was like, "Help me, help the fans come to understand what it is that you wanted to do. Help me get your messages across in the best way that I can with what you’ve left me here to work with."


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Kenny Ortega (pictured at far left) and Michael Jackson (center) at the rehearsals for "This Is it"


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What are your favorite memories of Michael Jackson? Is there anything about Michael that was misrepresented in the media?

The purity of his heart, the gentleness of his spirit, the kindness that he was about. I mentioned that he was so appreciative of the talent and the passion and dedication around him — and so he treated everyone with such respect and admiration. "I didn’t get a chance to hug everyone tonight. Make sure everyone knows how thankful I am. Make sure everyone knows how appreciative I am." And it was sincere. He really knew he was in the presence of greatness. He really valued talent that he had around him: his band, his dancers, his singers, the technical people not only responsible for not only lighting but keeping everybody safe on that stage and putting on all that hardware.

One day I walked into the dressing room with him, and he used to say it was one of his favorite moments, our one-on-ones. He’d put some fruit or candy, and he’d push it in front of me. Nurturing! I was like, "You eat! I’ve had plenty!" And I said to Michael — it was after a great day — and I looked at him and said, "I am so excited. I’m counting the days. I cannot wait until the curtain pulls open in London and you are back in the light, because you are going to triumph and you are going to get your crown back. And I have waited for this day, I have prayed for this day. You deserve this day."

And he laughed at me. He just shook his head, like he was looking at a boy. He said, "You’re so silly! God bless you, Kenny." And it’s because he never thought about that stuff. It wasn’t what motivated him. He wasn’t looking to be validated. He was looking to share this with his children, now that they could appreciate what he was in his life. He was looking to give back something to the fans that never quit him. And he was looking to get his messages across.

He was purely motivated. He never talked about the money. He never talked about the cash … There was the business side of Michael, but when we were in the room and creating with me and when we were in the process of developing that show, he was all about the pure reasons for being there.


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Kenny Ortega at the Michael Jackson public memorial in Los Angeles, July 2009


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You’ve told stories about Michael’s sense of humor, like how he joked that if he didn’t channel his ideas from God then "God might give his ideas to Prince." Can you share some other insight into Michael’s sense of humor?

He [Michael Jackson] was messing with me. He did mention that he liked Prince, his music; he really did.

About his sense of humor, he was a practical joker. He loved going places but he couldn’t without going incognito. And so I remember one time, I’m waiting for him outside a movie theater to go see "Beowulf" at the Universal Studios in Hollywood. He said, "I’ll meet you in front of the theater." I don’t know what I was thinking. I was looking for Michael Jackson to show up and meet me outside the theater. And I had been with him many times before. He was [disguised as] the Mata Hari’s daughter once when we went to see theater in New York. You wouldn’t believe some of the outfits we saw him in!

And I’m standing there looking around and looking around. I’m like, "Where is he?" And my assistants are there. There are young tourists running up to me to get my autograph, because they recognize the director from "High School Musical." So I’m signing autographs and I’m looking, and there’s this old, old man in a wheelchair getting closer and closer and closer to me. And I’m looking over at him and he’s just getting closer and closer. And I just went, "You son of a gun!" And it was Michael, just laughing under his plastic face. [He chuckles.]

And I went over and wheeled this "old man" into the movie theater and up into the elevator to watch "Beowulf" with him. But it was the only way he could get in — and, more importantly, to get out. Because we could sneak him into a door, but the minute people knew he was there, it would be almost impossible to get him out.


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Usher and Kenny Ortega at the Michael Jackson public memorial in Los Angeles, July 2009


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A lot of people who knew Michael well say that he was inaccurately portrayed by the media. Why do you think some members of the media portrayed Michael inaccurately?

Lack of creativity … Personally, I think there’s no creativity in that kind of thinking. They attempted to rob him of his integrity, his dignity as a man. He was a 50-year-old man who raised three children beautifully. They’re educated and gorgeous and well-mannered and playful and rambunctious.

The only thing that has been [as world-famous] as Michael Jackson is probably Coca-Cola. Everyone on the planet knew who Michael Jackson was. He was probably the most famous man who ever lived. Don’t you think this guy had some kind of charge over his life?

To me, it [some of the media coverage of Michael Jackson] is just imbecilic. There’s no creativity in that kind of "blah blah." They don’t know. They weren’t there. They weren’t invited. So it’s just all talk. And I didn’t let it affect me. I didn’t let it in. We didn’t invite it in. It wasn’t a part of our thinking. It wasn’t there when we made the movie. It wasn’t there when we made the concert. It’s always going to be there. "Blah blah blah." That’s what I think of it.


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Kenny Ortega and singer Shaheen Jafargholi at the Michael Jackson public memorial in Los Angeles, July 2009


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Do you think Michael Jackson lost his crown as the King of Pop?

No. It fell off. It got knocked off or bumped off. I think people forgot, and hopefully this film will remind them of his incredible genius. He really was a master of his craft. And I really believe — I hope in my heart I’m not exaggerating — that everyone sees what I see here: that you see a master in charge, leading us along the path. A lot of people said to me, "I forgot."


One really incredible guy that came to visit me in the process of making the film is Cameron Crowe. He just came in to visit for a few minutes. I wanted to pick his brain. I have great admiration for him. He didn’t come in to write about the film or anything. He just came in to say hello. And I showed him a couple of minutes [of "This Is It"], and he said, "You’re giving Michael back to the world, the Michael we had forgotten about." And that’s a good thing. That’s what I hope we’ve done here. We’ve reminded people about Michael and his talent and greatness and importance and his contributions and what he represented as an international artist … I’m lucky. I’m very privileged to have been in the same breathing space as Michael Jackson.


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Kenny Ortega at the Michael Jackson public memorial in Los Angeles, July 2009


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Unfortunately, this year we lost another entertainer whom you knew very well: Patrick Swayze. Can you share your thoughts on what he was like?

In these last few months, I’ve said goodbye to three really important men. John Hughes, who I did "Ferris Bueller’s Day Off" with and "Pretty in Pink" and "The Great Outdoors." John Hughes (the writer of "The Breakfast Club" and so many different films), and Patrick Swayze and Michael [Jackson] were three men who intensely impacted my life as a man and my career.

I think Patrick Swayze did what Gene Kelly did: He made dancing accessible to every man — which is an enormous accomplishment in this society. And [he was] another just honest, great guy. I was at his [memorial] celebration. Whoopi [Goldberg] was the master of ceremonies for his celebration for Patrick, and Jennifer Grey and I were talking. And I said, "I don’t think I’ve known anyone who enjoyed life more than Patrick Swayze [did]. He loved being alive more than anybody I think I ever met."

If you could ride it, he rode it. If you could jump it, he jumped it. If you could swim it, he swam it. John Kennedy Jr., he had that same rambunctious enthusiasm for life. And boy, am I going to miss that buddy. He was a real enthusiast — and so courageous. I admire the courage in which he departed. He was tremendous.


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Kenny Ortega (pictured at far right) and Brooke Shields (pictured third from left) with members of Michael Jackson's family and band at  the Michael Jackson public memorial in Los Angeles, July 2009


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Have you seen Michael Jackson’s kids recently?

I’m hoping to see them soon. I’m hearing that they want to see the movie. And I don’t know if this would be timely [for them], so that’s really thrilling that they want to see it.

What do you say to people who wonder if you went back and changed any of the film after Michael’s death?

I made a decision really early on. Sony was amazing. Amy Pascal, the chairman of Sony [Pictures Entertainment] and Columbia [TriStar Motion Picture Group] said, "Whatever you need. I know that you don’t have a lot of time, I’ll make it available to you. You want to go back and shoot more band, you want to do more interviews, you want to finish things you weren’t able to finish, whatever we can do to help you."

People are going to look at that and they’re going to say we manipulated, we changed, we altered [the original film]. And I said, "You know what? I think we’re safer, purer and more honest if we just incorporate the film that exists from the time Michael made the announcement [about his ‘This Is It’ concerts] to the day Michael left us. And let’s not touch it." And that’s what’s going to tell the story.

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Other Odd Things / Kenny O- strange outfit....Liberian girl? ;-)
« on: March 16, 2010, 10:58:48 AM »
Hello!
I need a camera expert who can look at the date, when the picture has been made!

Would be interesting so see in which time it was made.

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Other Odd Things / Part 2: Strange bodylanguage of Travis
« on: March 14, 2010, 02:19:27 PM »
Hello,
I was watching Michael Jackson This is it -The Dancing machine
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And then... STOP... there it is again! :o

I thought: Travis... hey... what do you know?
And especially when he is talking about seeing Michael the last time doing Billie Jean dance and that it was all more historical than they knew at that time.

LAST TIME DOING BILLIE JEAN:
1) the eyes:
If a person is reflecting what has happened in the past they are looking in the right direction, if they are telling lies, and especially when they are looking up in the left direction, they are using their creativity...
Which means they are lying....
So please have a look at travis eyes....

2)mouth:
what is so funny that Michael isn't able to do the billie jean anymore? There is no expression of sadness in his face

FUNNY TRAVIS  :D

MORE HISTORICAL THAN WE KNEW:
1) Eyebrows:
Again the one eyebrow movement!!!!! Especially men are really good in the eyebrow thing. Please have a look at:
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2)mouth:
Again the little smile...

In comparison to this I have made screenshots of travis and the other coreographer when they are telling the truth in order that you can better understand the face expressions....

L.O.V.E
the truth will prevail  8-)

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Other Odd Things / UPDATE: Different helicopter view: RTL
« on: March 13, 2010, 12:55:41 AM »
UPDATE!!!!!
I got it....
Please have a look at the picture.... very strange
From white to red?????? :o  :o  :shock:  :shock:




Yesterday I have seen 100% Michael Jackson on RTL.
And I saw a different view into the helicopter!!!!!!!
And it was a really strange view but it was too fast, I couldnt record it!

PLEASE _Has anybody recorded 100% Michael Jackson yesterday?!?!?!?!

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Other Odd Things / Strange Bodylanguage of Jermaine at UCLA
« on: March 12, 2010, 11:55:04 AM »
Since MJ's death I learned a lot about bodylanguage and how you can see if somebody is lying:
Micro expressions in your face can show if you are telling the truth or not!
Here is a summary of the announcement of Michael's death by Jermaine, Dr. Tohme etc.

1) nervous in movements, switches the balance oftens e.g. one leg to the other one
->means: no clear statement, nervous

2) If somebody moves only one part of the body like one shoulder or only one eyebrow moving
->means lie, I don't believe myself

3)One part of mouth movement:
-->sign of arroganz, lie,

3) lips licking (Jermaine licked his lips about 10 times)
->means nervousness,

4) hand in the pockets
-> Somebody tries to hide something( the truth?)
--> Remember the memorial? When they moved the casket there was Jermaine with his hands in his pockets ;-)

5) In his speech he moved one step away from the podium (?)
-->means a lie

6) His way of speaking
-->Sighing: really nervous

7) There were some smiles in their faces...
--> Are they happy about something??

8) Hand in the neck
-->means a lie (Remember Paris? ;-) )

9) lifting of chin and compressing the lips
--> I am not telling all I know

Also very suspicious:
he is reading a statement which he has written before on a paper
--> can mean a well prepared lie, Doesn't Jermaine know when his brother died?
--> Behind a very detailed speech – is a lie, like he is telling with the ambulance etc etc.

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Other Odd Things / 777: UPDATE No 2 Part 2; Right time of new contract
« on: March 11, 2010, 11:24:03 AM »
777: UPDATE No 2 Part 2; Right time of new contract

Ok, why the new contract with Sony now??

Because! And now listen....  :D

the record selling sinked(?) about 52%!!!!!!! (5+2=7)
And so they hope to sell until his annual day of death about 250 mil Dollar with the music, this is it.....
(2+5=7)

Just coincidence??? I don't think so  
IT WAS THE RIGHT TIME!!

PIECE BY PIECE

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UPDATE No2: TMZ knows Michael is alive

Ok this is weird... but TMZ has changed his dates.....
From

Posted Mar 15th 2010 10:49PM by TMZ Staff
to
Posted Mar 16th(1+6=7) 2010 12:10AM (2+1+1+2+1=7) by TMZ Staff

Again changed.....
Posted Mar 16th 2010 3:10AM by TMZ Staff
but matches again 1+6 = 7
2+1+3+1=7


Are you kidding me? Now I really believe that they are aware of all....
Maybe they want to help us???? They know also the 777 thing....
Why should they exactly change it to these dates?

That's what they have written.... Also very strange again...


Michael Jackson estate has signed the biggest deal ever in music -- worth up to $250(2+5=7) million with a guarantee of $200 million.

The estate made the deal with Sony Music Entertainment. According to the Associated Press, the contract is for 10 projects over 7 years.

And we're told Sony gets a two-year extension for the right to distribute the Michael Jackson catalog -- to 2017.

Ok
--> 7 Years, 2017, worth 250 = 777



P.S.
thanks to lovemj4everandever :
Look at the tagline....A TWO YEAR extension would make it 2019! NOT 2017! The deal was signed in 2008!!!!!!!

That's great, they are just telling us, that he is alive...... :D  :D  :D  :D

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UPDATE No1: Michael's escape song
UPDATE:
I think that all of you know the song but the funny thing is that he wrote it 2002 and 7 years later he escaped


here again the lyrics


Michael Jackson

Xcape



Intro (Prison guard)

Open up 6,

He’s gone!

Everywhere I turn, no matter where I look,
The systems in control, it's all ran by the book,
I've got to get away so I can clear my mind,
Xcape is what I need, away from electric eyes

No matter where I am, I seen my face around,
They pin lies on my name, and push them from town to town,
Don't have a place to run, but there's no need to hide,
I've got to, find a place,
So I won't hide away

Xcape, got to get away from a system lose in the world today
Xcape, the pressure that I face from relationships that go away
Xcape, the man with the pen that writes the lies that hassle this man
Xcape, I do what I wanna cause I gotta face nobody but me

(Girl)
Sometimes I feel like
I've gotta get away

I tried to share my life with someone I could love
But games and money is all she ever thought of
How could that be my fault when she gambled and lost?
I'm tired of silly games, its time to make a change

Why is it I can't do whatever I want to? (oh)
Went in my personal life and I don't live for you (you)
So don't you try to tell me what is right for me (try it)
You be concerned about you, I can do what I want to


Xcape, (hoo-hoo) (oh, no)
got to get away from a system loose in the world today
(I've got to get away)
Xcape,
the pressure that I face from relationships that go away
(don't you know I need it?)
Xcape,
the man with the pen that writes the lies that hassle this man
(I've got to get away)
Xcape,
I do what I wanna cause I gotta face nobody but me
(get away)
Xcape,
(don't you try it)
got to get away from a system lose in the world today
Xcape,
the pressure that I face from relationships that go away
(pressure that I'm facing every day)
Xcape,
(hoo-hoo)
the man with the pen that writes the lies that hassle this man
(come on, now)
Xcape,
(come on, now)
I do what I wanna cause I gotta face nobody but me
(hoo-hoo)
Bridge
When I go, (oh, go) this problem world won't bother me no more
(This problem world won't bother me no more)
(problem world, bother me, yeah, oh, yeah, hoo)
Xcape
Xcape
Xcape
Xcape
Xcape, got to get away from a system lose in the world today
(I've got to find a way)
Xcape, the pressure that I face from relationships that go away
(pressure that I'm facing)
Xcape, the man with the pen that writes the lies that hassle this man (the media)
(why I wanna fly)

Xcape, I do what I wanna cause I gotta face nobody but me
(I do what I wanna, hoo-hoo)

Xcape, got to get away from a system lose in the world today
Xcape, the pressure that I face from relationships that go away
Xcape, the man with the pen that writes the lies that hassle this man
Xcape, I do what I wanna cause I gotta face nobody but me (hoo-hoo)

Xcape, got to get away
(I've got find a way)
Xcape, the pressure that I face
(can't take it no more)
Xcape, the man with the pen
(I can't take this no more)
Xcape, I do what I wanna cause I gotta face nobody but me
Xcape (auow!)
(You ain't my mother)
Xcape
Got to get away
Xcape
The pressure that I face
Xcape
The man with the pen (get away)
Xcape
I do what I wanna
I do what I wanna cause I gotta face nobody but me (hee-hee-hee)
(Hoo)
Xcape
(what for? I can't take this kind of shit no more!)
Xcape till fade
You Want me? Come and get me!

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The 7's in Michael Jackson's lifeI have found more seven's in his life:
Here a summary:


Private:
•   Born at 12:13 AM in Indiana (1+2+1+3=7)
•   Michael Jackson was born in 1958 ... 19 + 58 = 77
•   29 August (9-2=7)
•   Michael Jackson was the 7th of 9 children.
•   Michael Jackson has 7 letters in his first and last name.
•   Neverland address: 5225 Figueroa Mtn Rd. (77)

Career:
•   July 7, 2002 Michael calls Tommy Mottola a racist(7, 7)
•   750 Millionen selled records
•   70er-Jahren most popular band: The Jackson Five
•   Michael Jackson's three biggest albums — "Thriller," "Bad" and "Dangerous" — each produced  7 top 40 hits.
•   Michael Jackson's two biggest hits -- "Black & White" and "Billie Jean" — were each #1 for 7 weeks.
•   1986 - Stars in the $17 million film "Captain EO
•   The album 7even
•   Thriller album released: 11-30-1982; (1+1+3+0+1+9+8+2=25; 2+5=7)
•   Bad (1987) (1+9+8+7=25, 2+5=7)
•   Original song Bad is about 18 minutes (8-1=7), he was 29 (9-2=7)
•   With 29 he started his first world tour (9-2=7)
•   One of his best tour: summer 1988: His concerts was about 7 nights and 7concerts at Wembley-Stadion in London, there have been always about 72.000 persons.
•   Best paid prominent person for a TV spot: Pepsi paid him 12 Millionen US-Dollar for four Tv spots (1+2+4=7)
•   Costs of SCREAM production: 7 million
•   1979 - "Off the Wall" album propels him to superstar status. Produced by Quincy Jones, it goes to sell more than 7 million copies.
•   1991 - Releases Dangerous album, certified for 7 million sales
•   2004 - Jackson pleaded not guilty January 16 to child molestation charges, his first court appearance since being charged (2+4+1=7; 1+6=7)
•   april 30, not guilty to a grand jury (3+4=7)
•   april,3 debbie rowe gives birth to daugther Paris (3+4=7)



Last days:
•   The alleged will was executed 7/7/02 at 5:00PM (2+5=7) in Los Angeles (color=#FF0000]777[/color]
•   7 years later at 02-center for 50 (5+2=7)concerts and 750.000 tickets
   --> announced on march 2009 (9-2=7)-->777
•   Michael Jackson's memorial was on 7/7/09 ... exactly 7 years after the will was signed.
•   Michael Jackson died on the 25th ... 2 + 5 = 7.
•   paramedics number: 71
•   burial was 70 days after his death (It takes 70 days to bury a pharaoh in Egypt) at 7pm


Other:s
•    The father of Jordan Chandler († 5. November 2009)(5+1+1=7; 9-2 = 7)
•   Jackson was patient at Dr. Klein about 25 years (2+5=7)
•   January 25, 1994 - Settles lawsuit with substantial payment to plaintiff, Los Angeles and Santa Barbara district attorneys decide not to file child-molestation charges.
•   2004, 16, jan plead not guilty (2+4+1 = 1+6=7)
•   Sorry this one I found only in german:
 „Ich habe mit meinen Anwälten gesprochen und ich sagte: Könnt ihr mir garantieren, dass die Gerechtigkeit siegen wird? Und sie sagten: Michael, wir können Ihnen nicht garantieren, dass ein Richter oder die Geschworenen irgendetwas tun werden. […] Ich war schockiert. […] Also sagte ich: Ich muss etwas tun, um aus diesem Albtraum zu kommen. […] Das hätte sieben Jahre (seven years) dauern können
Michael Jackson, 14. Juni 1995[10]
He was afraid that the trial could endure about 7 years…


 
also very funny:
2001 - Invincible album released, selling 2.1 million copies

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Other Odd Things / The Michael Jackson of the 17th century
« on: March 11, 2010, 09:52:50 AM »
Have you already seen the King of pop of the 17th century? :o  :o
Painting was made about 1650

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Other Odd Things / MJ and strange book
« on: March 09, 2010, 11:41:36 AM »
Wow, look at the figure on the book... :o

Does anybody know which book is this?

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Other Odd Things / very sad interview of Joe Jackson :-(
« on: March 09, 2010, 10:19:57 AM »
Look at the end of this interview.. He is nearly crying. I have never seen him before like that... :cry:
What do you think?
[youtube:2dw95bj0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdoIvouUv4c[/youtube:2dw95bj0]

It made me sad......

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