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« on: January 22, 2011, 02:34:05 PM »
Well said indeed yet as a common man, our worries are not the government but what has become of the society. The government doesn't tell a guy to rob an old lady, government doesn't tell someone to start killing in series, government doesn't tell someone to steal from others, the government doesn't tell someone to go and shoot people at work or students in school. Our concerns these days are not getting on that chair to get bananas but to save the bananas that we do have from other monkeys or being killed by others. I'm not saying government doesnt make mistakes. In fact I don't agree with war. I don't like the fact that the governments decide to fight but it's the innocent people who die. I don't like politics played well by politicians. Yet I am glad they aren't there coz that gives us just some discipline in society. Their rules protect us too. What direct affect our day to day to life directly are the killings on the street, the murders etc etc. Our problem is we can't fight against it all. We cant fight against the guns, the weapons, the robberies alone just like we can't fight poverty, inflation, war etc. Can we really tell companies to not cut more trees? Yet government has passed bills in the past that have helped us. For me, if government introduces a system that secures our privacy, well I'm atleast up for it coz the times we live in, it's the most needed. I see Souza called someone naive- not offensive but I see it as a difference of opinion. I guess she can call me naive too but it's really how we perceive the society we live in today. I do miss the times when you knew every thing about your neighbor and everything was simple and nice. But now it's all about wanting more or wanting to be someone important- the guy with all the bananas but we cant blame where we are just on the government. I guess I'm being a neutral coz I realize what's wrong in our society. I get the whole "ahhh they are taking away my rights" thing and people have the fear of being controlled. I like my freedom but this is just a bunch of bs. Like the government CARES WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ONLINE. The government is made up of people (monkeys) like YOU and ME and I think that literally somebody could be looking up "how to make an atomic bomb" online and nothing would even happen to them!
Oooh sorry for my radical point of view. And if something like this were to happen it would be for a DAMN good reason such as terrorism etc.
You see, some monkeys learned how to use the chair to reach the bananas hanging from the ceiling. And they won't tell the rest of us, because monkeys have a hierarchy system and those on top of the pyramid want to stay there. Since they control the supply of the bananas, they can control many other aspects in our lives. We need to serve them (eat their fleas) to get bananas. They give no more than enough to keep us content and serving them.
To maintain their control, to suppress any thoughts of challenge and to prevent our knowledge about the chair that we might learn to use, they sometimes make our lives misery, say, cut down the ration of bananas. To keep their position, they have to know what you are doing, especially if they sense that some monkeys are not happy with their leadership. 
There are many people on this board, and in this section especially, who think that something's not right in this world we live in. In a nutshell, that there is a global agenda led by a relatively small amount of people who control how things are - more than we realize - versus the general thought that we, the general public, have control over how many things are.
Some people have asked what does this have to do with MJ. Some listers believe that MJ became aware of this agenda and a victim of it (constant public ridicule, pedo accusations, sudden death). Some believe he is still alive, hoaxing his death and planning a return to expose this agenda. Either way, what is brought up on this board about the agenda is just a fraction of all the information that exists.
Have you ever questionned why something is different now than, say, ten years ago? I did a few years ago. I started noticing little things, with no connection to each other in the beginning. I begun to wonder why young girls suddenly dressed up like hookers? Why are there suddenly many young men killing their peers at school? How come the family unit is broken and different generations spend less time with each other, with their blood (listen to MJ in Oxford)? How come money seems to be ever more important than the wellbeing of people? Why is there a need for endless "growth" and "competitiveness" in business world? How come the school system and health care are eroding away?
The real eye opener was realizing that many of these things seemed to be happening in many countries simultaneously. An accident? Hardly.
The majority of people never ask questions like these and are quite content and happy with going to work, study, eat, watch tv, play computer games, raise a family, buy stuff, read the newspaper and watch the news that someone has chosen to be news that day. Once you have realized there's something going on, there's no return to the old ways of ignorant bliss.
Fear is the very factor here. In the history, those in power have controlled the masses with fear - the sky will fall down, the fear of God.. the best are the ones that can't be beaten.
Today it's fear of terrorism and fear of climate change. The ultimate launch to fear of terrorism was 9/11. A lot has changed after that.
Climate change used to be "global warming", but they changed it to "Climate change" because now it covers everything. And boy, don't the news carry some "The nature is bad to us" piece of news daily.
A lot of insane control has been put in place explaining it with climate change -like here - a town has ordered an obligatory veggie meal once a week for school children.
Don't take freedom for granted, because you have already lost good portions of it.
Nightowl, with your permission I am going to quote your post everytime someone comes around that still thinks we are living in a happy and fantastic world. What a great summary of the problems in this world in a very understandable, thought provoking and eye opening way.
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« on: January 22, 2011, 09:27:47 AM »
I'm not here to say this is a wrong or right thing and not sure if you guys who are not from the US know or how it works in other countries, but here we need a password to log in and then do anything including surfing Internet on any public computer- schools, work, universities and libraries. And freedom rights or not, I like that coz I don't want to be taken as someone who might have opened a porn site or a bomb making site if I haven't on a shared computer.
And when I log in to chk my bank account details, I really do want security. This might be different to what's goin on, but dont we all want some kinda privacy security when we put in our credit card details?? So many people I know had their Ids stolen coz of hackers or just coz they checked their details on a public computer. I'm just saying....
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« on: January 21, 2011, 10:58:13 PM »
This is getting more interesting!!!
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« on: January 21, 2011, 06:45:41 PM »
Well said  Thanks for your research, ladymjc. I agree that Michael is alive, but I am not sure things went down the way you theorized.
Flumazenil usually acts pretty fast- most of the time within 3 minutes:
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I think there would have been too many risk factors and the timing could not have gone down to the minute as Michael had planned (and as TS pointed out, both the call at 12:21 and the time of death 2:26 had to be locked in place by people in the "know." )
Also, I just want to point out that propfol is not used as treatment for insomnia as it does not produce REM sleep. I think the reason Michael chose propofol overdose as cause of death was so people would figure out that it made zero sense for him to ask for propofol or be "addicted" to it (as reported by some), as he would have figured out pretty soon that he did not wake up rested. Also, it had long term movement coordination side effects. Would Michael whose dancing was a form of self expression and communication as well as part of his spirituality really risk that for a "sleep agent" that would not let him sleep? I think this medication was chosen on purpose as just another red flag for people to scratch their heads and go "what?" Only- look how many swallowed it hook, line, and sinker...just because it was "written in a magazine and shown on a tv screen"...- the research is easy enough to come by for anyone as we know. If you look, you will find. If you just swallow what you are fed- you will stay blind!
@Michaelsupporter: AMEN! Absolutely!
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« on: January 21, 2011, 06:43:26 PM »
and he stops breathing, but by the time he reaches the hospital the flumazenil kicks in and he is alive again, but still sleeping. Unfortunately, that's not how it works 
I agree! But hey atleast we all try to make sense of what's going on unlike some non- believer fans right? . Also, if this was the case, I don't think the doctors would have confirmed mj was DOA in the court unless it's all fake :$
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« on: January 21, 2011, 06:26:00 PM »
Makes sense!! They are smart but so are we! Just a random thought- what could be the purpose of recapping all this? No other media cares and non- believers could care les too and we all know all this. Could it be that we see this as an on going movie? It's like we take a step back and watch the whole thing being played from beginning and maybe giving us a chance to look at things from the start and find clues we missed? I think that's its purpose. TS had TIME (TIME DOTS & TIME DOUBTS) in his update titles, So I think we need to focus on the complete timeline to see what we missed.
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« on: January 21, 2011, 05:52:56 PM »
Just a random thought- what could be the purpose of recapping all this? No other media cares and non- believers could care les too and we all know all this. Could it be that we see this as an on going movie? It's like we take a step back and watch the whole thing being played from beginning and maybe giving us a chance to look at things from the start and find clues we missed?
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« on: January 21, 2011, 04:25:39 PM »
So I'm just wondering, wouldn't prosecutor or the defense have used pics of MJ to prove their points? I'm sure if the paramedics didn't take pics when they frat saw the body or the doctors at ucla didn't take pics when they saw him an tried to work on him but the coroner would have def taken pics during autopsy. That's a normal thing to do- show pics to prove a point. So all the people who have made you tube videos on what alleged inside the court would have seen then if they were there and the pics were shown. But since no one mentioned it, I assume pics weren't shown. Why??? Wouldn't it be better to show MJ's condition for the sake of the case. It's not like the people present on the court had phones or cameras to record the pics.
Similarly, i wonder ifthey used real voice msgs left by Murray to evaluate his condition- panicy, nervous etc. Wouldn't that be important?
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« on: January 21, 2011, 03:59:04 PM »
Ok what's goin on?? The Jackson family keeps filing cases but really nothing comes out of them. Example- previous 2 cases filed by Joe and Kat and who knows how many more to come. It's like a game. Now this all would only look less weird if MJ was directing them for a purpose but think about it, if you weren't a believer and you saw a case after case that had no outcome, wouldn't it look crazy?? Or am I going crazy?? What game is this?? I'm not here to say the case is right or wrong but just wondering what's goin on! This has to be MJ in the play!!
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« on: January 21, 2011, 11:38:06 AM »
Chk this- last month I was in Santa Monica visiting my sister. I was surprised to see there were no talks, posters, fans etc anywhere. No one mentions this subject. I was at the main market areas, shopping centers and walking around beaches, never spotted the doc or any celeb. But that changed on my last night there. We were having dinner at this french restaurant and we see 2 guys peeping in through the glass door and then chking menu. I thought he looked familiar but when they started walking away, my sister and her friends were like- oh yah that's Harvey the tmz guy- he us very short by the way and was with a ummm fat/ over healthy guy (not judging just describing). I wanted to go after and ask him directly but given the nature of an upscale restaurant, I didn't want to embarras my sister. So while we were talking, my sisters friend mentioned how she is an IT project manager and her next project will be for UCLA. Ofcourse my wheels were turning. Since we had gotten quiet comfortable, I asked her to ask questions regarding MJ when she visits the client sire- ucla. I told her it would be a huge favor. She said she would and keep me posted coz I was gonna leave the next day. Just to mention I also saw Adrian Brody and Daniel Craig having dinner there . But people in California do treat them normally. I didn't see anyone run upto them but I saw people taking pics with their phones. My sister took from hers. anyway, so I heard back from my sisters friend. She said no one knows what happened. She even said that one ucla employee told her that talks of celebs are always on when they cone in for a chk up or get injured or die- but no one mentions MJ. Intact not even mention the room where MJ supposedly passed away. The friend said it's like nothing happened and coz she doesn't know what we know, this was her comment- it's as if mj didn't even die :0 Guys I'm pretty sure we are on the right track
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« on: January 21, 2011, 11:22:39 AM »
Well said guy. Maybe that's the key. We follow people who seem to be following MJ's directions. We track and observe their moves and ten get to the bottom of this. Actions def speak louder than words and so far doctor Murray 's actions scream acting. What else can we notice individually??
Soon we will see the bigger pic- the hoax.
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« on: January 21, 2011, 09:49:15 AM »
Thx guys, I agree with your opinions. See when JFK was assisinated, conspiracy or not, who gave his assumed murderer a chance to explain? The guy was found outside a theater and arrested- never got a chance to be on trail coz he was shot dead at the police station on national tv. So now on the contrary, we have the assumed murderer on trial, yet no one notices him on the streets? I hope to God, no one hurts him coz MJ wouldn't want that but not one person coming up with a pic or some cellphone footage of this guy living his life normally? We get all these tabloids and even celebrity magazines where we see random pics of Hollywood people buying coffee, eating, walking etc etc- yet no one is around this doc when he shops, swims, works out etc except tmz?? Really??
Usually people who are in high profile cases are seen with their lawyers repeesnting them- where as dr. Murray is shown vacationing. It can't be that easy for a suspect right?? Unless he knows it's all an act and he's just playing a part- nothing more!
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« on: January 20, 2011, 10:19:14 PM »
I know eh! All those reporters who were always ready to attack MJ are quiet. I would expect someone to take dr's side atleast- just something but nothing is happening. Even E channel (on US cable) is good at discussing stuff like this on e news. They always have Lindsey Lohan news on there about getting drunk and all :$ "skyways"]GREAT POINT, SK2001 !!!
silence of the Media its my great wonder on this Journey -- Nancy Grace - HELLOOO! - where is all her Haloows about suspect-murder revelations toward Mj??
she is ON AIR Every Night wth R-E-A-L !! story!..
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« on: January 20, 2011, 10:03:12 PM »
You are right voice of the silence! I'm just wondering how do the people outside the court find out??
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« on: January 20, 2011, 09:35:06 PM »
Also, when you see footages from outside the courthouse, you see many media people with cameras. You see them recording what's being told to them. Yet the only way it's communicated to the outside world is through tmz or YouTube videos? What about the other media people?? What do they do with this info? Where do they go?? Why don't we hear from them? Besides, if other tabloids just copy paste tmz, why are the other people with cameras there?? What's the point? Ok I'm really really done now
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